Ban on gay adoption cleared for Arkansas ballot.
By on Aug 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Ban on gay adoption cleared for Arkansas ballot.
A ballot initiative “aimed at effectively banning gays and lesbians from becoming foster or adoptive parents” was cleared to appear on this fall’s ballot in Arkansas. The measure “would prohibit unmarried couples living together from fostering or adopting children.” Sen. John McCain has caved to the right wing on this issue, recently stating that he doesn’t “believe in gay adoption.” “I am for the values that two parent families, the traditional family represents,” McCain said recently, presumably indicating his support for the Arkansas initiative.
Update Florida, California, and Arizona are considering separate ballot initiatives that would ban gay marriage. More in today’s Progress Report.
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But it’s still OK in Arkansas for siblings to marry.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pmLooks as if Jim will vote a top-down anti-American ticket in November.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:24 pmI didn’t realize God had filed to run.
I feel sorry for the sucker who’s running against Him.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:25 pmDaryll Says:
I hope Arkansas votes for God.
I hope God votes to send you to hell. Whoop — he already has your spot reserved!
August 25th, 2008 at 7:25 pmThis is intended to lure the Daryll’s to the polls in a Night of the Living Dead moment. There’s nothing alive about their version of Christianity.
They turned Christ, God in human form, into the Strict Father model and sucked the love right out of him.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pmDaryll didn’t we call you out in the last thread? Jesus said nothing about the gays. And yet he said Rich men don’t go to heaven. Let’s see, Biden’s net worth is $150K, McCain’s is $100 million…
August 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pmAnd your roman’s quote was about how rich people like McCain get involved in the sex trade.
@10
August 25th, 2008 at 7:35 pmEXACTLY! the Daryll’s of this world would rather children get raised in orphanages than raised by loving families. And then have the audacity to claim the name “Family Values”.
It’s not a direct ban on gays adopting, it’s a ban on unmarried couples of any combination adopting. So apparently the objection isn’t just against gay parents, it’s against any unmarried couple as parents.
I assume it’s currently legal for an unmarried couple to adopt, since this law is aimed at prohibiting that. So, isn’t that discriminating against not only gays, but also agnostics and atheists that may choose long term cohabitation over official government sanctioned marriage, which is primarily a religious based institution?
Yes, you can get married without a religious ceremony… but why is marriage required at all? Beyond its religious significance, marriage is superficial to a relationship, except as a near-guarantee that lawyers will get involved if the relationship dissolves. Why must the government sanction my relationship? Can not my chosen partner and I raise a child without government approval?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:36 pmThis is sad beyond words. The two most delightful and well adjusted children I know are both children of gay parents (one female and one male couple). They do not want for any influence in their lives. Both couples have numerous friends of the opposite sex who provide role models when needed and huge loving extended families.
Personally, I would have rather been raised by a loving gay couple than by the abusive heterosexual parents who raised me.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:38 pm#McWars Says:
Daryll Says:
I hope Arkansas votes for God.
I hope God votes to send you to hell. Whoop — he already has your spot reserved!
Next to Daryll’s name on God’s list for Heaven is a “DO NOT ADMIT” notation.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:39 pmHas anyone been able to read the actual initiative?
The link didn’t work for me.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:40 pmHey TripleKick: McCain intentionally obfuscated his answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llZuoMXpr4s
When he says “Family Values” he is saying he wants kids in orphanages rather than loving homes.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:40 pmArkansas is a big fundy adoption mill. Unwed mothers from all over that can be convinced to give up their babies for adoption are sent to Arkansas to live with volunteers who see to it the girls are cared for and get pre-natal care as an alternative to abortion or keeping the baby. This is because the Arkansas adoption laws are the most lenient in the south.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:41 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
faiz is lying again. McCain never once voiced opposition to gay adoption.
No, you are lying. Here’s what McCain said:
Q: President Bush believes that gay couples should not be permitted to adopt children. Do you agree with that?
Mr. McCain: I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no I don’t believe in gay adoption.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pmwould prohibit unmarried couples living together from fostering or adopting children.”
That’s going to lose McCain some female votes.
Make that many female votes.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pmBut Karl Rove said McCain was gay and yet he adopted a child.
Was Karl lying?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:45 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Actually I agree that it is an issue that Barrack (the Hussein crap is just childish churlishness – grow up little child) doesn’t support gay marriage. However he’s not opposed to gay adoption – and McCain’s stance so far indicates he is
You know I’m getting sick and tired of people saying that Barack Hussein Obama is against gay marriage. That is not the truth. He is against a constitutional amendment allowing for gay marriage. This is because he, like Republicans used to, thinks that it should be up to the states to decide. He also supports Civil Unions for gay couples that include all the rights and privileges that marriage entails.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Exactly! And if Obama wants to make ground among those female voters not yet committed to him then he needs to make a clear stand. And not one of those half @ss@d vague statements he’s prone to making to reach the religious freaks!
And aimed at Hillary supporters, as well. Walk them through the consequences of a McCain victory.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pmXisithrus Says:
But Karl Rove said McCain was gay and yet he adopted a child.
Was Karl lying?
Cindy is his beard, the kids, his fake nose and eyeglasses.
Really. Would you boink Cindy? Pardon the old Nat Lamp reference, but it would be like schtupping a pile of coathangers.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pmIf you want a child, do it God’s way. Anything other than this is considered an abomination.
Impregnate a virgin with my holy spirit?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pmI don’t recall Jesus saying anything about in virto fertilization, but for some couples, that’s the only way to get a child.
Don’t forget people born with both sets of reproductive organs. God creates these as well, Daryll.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pmAnything other than this is considered an abomination . . . UNLESS you’re a Republican closet case. Or Dick Cheney’s daughter.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pmScrew god, I’ll do it my way…
August 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pmDoes anyone know where one could look up the number of adoptions that the pro-lifers have made, over the years? You would think that anyone in the pro-life movement(You know the type,the ones that are the screechers/yellers outside a Womens Clinc) would at least adopted 2 or 3 kids maybe more, of the ones they had saved! Am I correct?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:55 pmI am mainly interested in hearing from the pro-lifers about all their adoptions on this question! I’m sure they don’t look at their screaming and jumping around as only a 8-5 job!
Let’s hear it from the Pro-Lifers! Stand up for your beleifs and let me know how many you have adopted!
Why do you hate Cheneys daughter?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:56 pmWell, Daryll, people adopt kids that were created Gods way. Are you saying that people, like McCain, shouldnt adopt a child because he and Cindy didnt fornicate?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:58 pmIf you want a child, do it God’s way. Anything other than this is considered an abomination.
Seriously, it’s good someone finally has the courage to call out adoptive parents… what with their selfish raising of children in loving homes, these children knew what they were getting into when they decided to be born orphans or have drug-addicted parents and it’s time they pulled themselves up by their bootie-straps.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pmGood call Daryll!
Everyone knows that an orphan should remain in an orphanage until he or she becomes the subject of a Dickensian adventure or dies in a freak wallet-making accident or both.
Cheney’s daughter? It’s chapter 1066 in Republican apologetics. It’s also a sign the Elephant Party is using their religious hoardes, giving them the proverbial wedgie or kick in the arse.
Yet, they’ll turn out like Orcs a the polls come November.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:00 pmDaryll Says:
If you want a child, do it God’s way. Anything other than this is considered an abomination
So, Daryll thinks that all those kids out there who don’t have parents can all grow up in orphanages. How christian of you Daryll. I’m sure that kind of an attitude adds another point to you “Daryll’s going to hell” score sheet the good lord is keeping on you.
Besides, the only person who thinks that children being adopted is an abomination is you Daryll, and frankly, we don’t give a fcuk what you think.
Is anyone besides me sick to death of these people who call themselves Christians but who are full of hate for anyone or anything that is not like them? I know I am.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:06 pmIf gay marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will marry gays.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pmI am not going to pick on Darylls belief system, I do disagree with his opinion that people should only have children if they are able to have children as it denys an innocent child of the chance of having a home.
Secondly my ex-wife, who is quite religious, gave up her first child [not mine] to an adoption agency because her parents were embarassed their daughter was pregnant out of wedlock and basically forced her to give up her child. The child however was adopted by a good family and has a good home as the reports we got showed.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:16 pmI am not going to pick on Darylls belief system,
ex-wife, who is quite religious, gave up her first child
because her parents were embarassed their daughter was pregnant out of wedlock and basically forced her to give up her child.
Feel the warm embrace of Christianity!!!!
Sounds like a solid argument FOR picking on that belief system.
On the other hand, the kid is WAY better off, I’m sure.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:21 pmWhy do fundies care more about the APPEARANCE of their belief than the actual FUNCTION of it?
Got heresy?
August 25th, 2008 at 8:23 pmJesus sets off my gaydar. I like that about Jesus.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:26 pmJesus taught:
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Today, TP has several posts on politicians catering to the rich and their corresponding tax benefits. Yet, Daryll and his kind will march to the polls to fight gay adoption.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:29 pmIn 2004 it was gay marriage, I guess gay adoption is 2008s canard, and idiots like Darryl and the other religious idiots in this country will vote lock step even as they lose their homes and lose their jobs. Idiots who vote against their own self interest, what malleable little fools they are, continuing to do the bidding of their facist masters. You would think they would learn, but these homophobe pigs don’t think.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:29 pmDaryll, You and your wife are considering adopting, haven’t you said that?
August 25th, 2008 at 8:33 pmRHF, if you have chased Daryll from this site (as I suspect), I for one will heartily express my gratitude. Daryll’s act had grown incredibly stale lately.
In a word, B-O-R-I-N-G.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:34 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
August 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Flagged for posting personal information about a commenter.
I know you’ll trash me, rhf, that’s who you are. I couldn’t care less.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Um. Doesn’t this legislation also threaten the parental rights of any woman who isn’t married? Is the state of Arkansas going to place all children born to unwed mothers on orphanages?
August 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pmI’m with you Bilbo, too many christians are sick phucks.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
He posted his own private information, which included his last name and initial. Or were you too st*p*d to notice? You really are a miserable b**ch.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
You really don’t disappoint, rhf.
I don’t care what he posted — that was against the Terms of Use as well. You didn’t have to run with it, like the psychotic bully you are.
You call me stupid. Well, I’ll take stupid over psychotic sick f uck any day.
You just keep being you, rhf.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pmWhile her parents were religious it was not why they wanted to have her give up the child but because of social pressures. Is the child better off? I dont know that the child knows it was adopted. I do know the mother is not better off and becomes quite depressed around the childs birthdate every year.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:44 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Actually it’s who YOU ARE, it’s called ’self-rejection’…
August 25th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
You crack me up with your pitiful projection.
Nice try.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:44 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Oh, and Zooey, a WEBSITE is not PRIVATE information, and he already divulged his email address which has his name in it – also public information. So NO i DID NOT violate the terms – you however violate the terms of a RATIONAL POSTER, Zooniac…
August 25th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Somebody call a waaaaaaahmbulance for rhf.
**eyes rolling**
August 25th, 2008 at 8:46 pmZooey Says:
You call me stupid. Well, I’ll take stupid over psychotic sick f uck any day.
You just keep being you, rhf.
Yeah – did you notice the ROTFL’s were back? ;)
August 25th, 2008 at 8:47 pmWhoa wait a minute… Nobody better be messing with my man Daryll unless it is in fun only!
August 25th, 2008 at 8:47 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Says the hypocrite with the inability to distinguish PUBLIC from PRIVATE!
August 25th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Take it up with TP, idiot stick. They makes rules like that with trolls like you in mind.
Twist in the wind, twat.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:51 pmIt is none of my business (not that that has ever stopped me) but watch out RHF, I think Zooey has a crush on you! XXX OOO
August 25th, 2008 at 8:52 pmrhf,
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Really, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.
August 25th, 2008 at 8:54 pmROTFL! ROTFL! ROTFL!
Oh jeebus….he’s gonna blow!
August 25th, 2008 at 8:57 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
She really needs to stop measuring the intellect of others by trolls and her bad choice in sexual partners…
August 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
**snort**
Virgin much…?
August 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
I KNOW, isn’t it FUNNY??? ROTFL!! She’s not used to being put in her place when she says something stupid by someone that’s smarter and more capable than her – poor thing! She really needs to stop measuring the intellect of others by trolls and her bad choice in sexual partners…
“Smarter and more capable”? You’re not referring to yourself, are you? Because if you were, I’d be ROTFL, and that’s just too stupid for words.
I’m guessing you wouldn’t be too happy if someone posted links to your personal information — and, yes, photos of yourself would certainly qualify to most normal people as “personal information.” Just because Daryll was dumb enough to post an email address doesn’t make it OK for you to follow up and post his social networking information.
Always assuming it’s really Daryll, and I have my doubts. That Daryll’s music, for one thing, isn’t anything like Daryll the Jesus Freak would ever have.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:01 pmBut seriously folks, wouldn’t that be a demotion for God—going from ruler of the entire universe to just the executive branch of the US?
August 25th, 2008 at 9:02 pmDidn’t we go through this once before with RHF, when he was stalking Bartlebee and posted what he thought was a website for “our” Bart?
ROTFLing his way to nutso once again. Try to make it into the 21st century, RHF, where “personal information” is something more than a home address or phone number.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:04 pmHey I remember when people eavesdropped on me and left signs in the park to try and bully me. I always thought it was funny though and me and my neighbor had a great time duping the listeners, lmao.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:05 pmDaryll will be back, nonetheless.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:05 pmMust have touched a nerve with the “virgin” thing. ;)
What a maroon…
August 25th, 2008 at 9:07 pmWhat luck, the 1st night of the convention on C-SPAN, crazy trolls all over here and a new pussy comes into my life tonight!
My cat brought home a friend tonight who looks as if it spent the last week outside while Fay was in town. He’s eaten two bowls of dry food and a can of 9-Lives and likes being petted.
He reminds me of Sylvester the cat so that’s what I’ll call him if he hangs around. My cat, Smokey, doesn’t seem to have any problems with Sylvester eating out of his bowl either.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:10 pmgummitch Says:
Didn’t we go through this once before with RHF, when he was stalking Bartlebee and posted what he thought was a website for “our” Bart?
Yeah…whatever happened to Bartlebee, anyway? Not that I miss him, but he disappeared. And what about Tripmaster Monkey? Him I really miss.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:10 pmShe’s not used to being put in her place when she says something stupid by someone that’s smarter and more capable than her
Your opinion of yourself is highly laughable.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pmZooey Says:
Must have touched a nerve with the “virgin” thing. ;)
What a maroon…
Or he’s just gone off to cut up a few lines and stock up on the Cheetos.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:14 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Yeah…whatever happened to Bartlebee, anyway? Not that I miss him, but he disappeared. And what about Tripmaster Monkey? Him I really miss.
Bart voted himself off the island but occasionally does guest appearances on other blogs, mostly talking to himself after he’s p!ssed everyone else off. You remember the long threads of nothing but Bart arguing with his invisible friends? He showed up at The Zoo awhile back but spun himself into such a frenzy that he had to leave.
No idea about Trip.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:16 pmSo this Daryll figure is a really good representation of all that is reprehensible about so many Christians.
Let’s spell it out here.
Daryll uses the bible to justify his banning us gays from adopting (the children hets throw away).
Now, according to Daryll’s bible, as long as you have children ‘god’s way’, it’s then ok to murder them if they speak back to you.
Of course his bible condones murder all over the place which is why he probably feels George Bush is a good Christian.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:17 pmAlso I forgot to ask Daryll, would your church happen to be Westboro Baptist?
August 25th, 2008 at 9:19 pmReally this legislation would be a favor to all gay people. It would give them incentive to get the hell out of Arkansas, a cultural wasteland.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:47 pmRHF, you crossed the line. Anybody who wanted to track down that information could have tried but you didn’t need to give it to everybody. How would you like your personal details exposed?
August 25th, 2008 at 9:48 pmROTFL is such a lame way to express oneself. Well what might I know. Either way G2G…
August 25th, 2008 at 9:48 pmIf you want a child, do it God’s way. Anything other than this is considered an abomination.
I offered to give Angelina Jolie children God’s way—but she still went all over the world adopting!
August 25th, 2008 at 10:23 pmThe CEO for Select Staffing/Temps is encouraging his staff to work for passage of Prop 8 here in California. If you use temps, may I suggest you have second thoughts about using this company.
http://blogabarbara.blogspot.com/2008/08/feeling-spunky-about-gay-marriage.html
August 25th, 2008 at 11:17 pmAh yes, the REICH want`s to impose their relgious DOGMA on gays once again why? Because they can`t win in November.The Reich Wing hypocrites just can`t leave them alone because they are afraid that they are actually real human beings whose sexual preferences are different from their`s so they ostracise and ridicule them, talk about family values teaching your kids to hate because the Bible says to.I was taught that God and Jesus were anout peace, love and forgiveness.
August 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pmIn CA: No on H8 ~ as cookie Jill has stated there’s lots of money pouring in for the hate proposition. This initiative would write an exclusion (same sex marriage) into the state constitution. The most money, backing the proposition, seems to be coming from Utah and the Mormon Church.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am#29 Damnation Daryll Says:
Daryll,
This statement presupposes that two men, according to you, could procreate… or two women for that matter.
But in reality, single people have children all the time. Should they be damned to hell with the rest of us? How about infertile couples… should they be denied adoption because they can’t procreate? Damn the infertile for adoption?
Awe… hell, Damn the world then Daryll…
Since you prefer to judge when Christ specifically commanded not to… eh?
See Daryll, real Christians know what Christ commanded.
FAKE Christians just pull it out their collective as&.
.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:43 am.
Hey everyone,
Damnation Daryll thinks we should all go to hell for adopting children…
… because if you “can’t do it god’s way” then you should go straight to hell.
DO. NOT. PASS. GO.
Normal people are just concerned for the children…
Daryll… NOT SO MUCH!
.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:47 am.
Daryll,
WHY DO YOU HATE ORPHANS?
.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:48 amA ballot initiative “aimed at effectively banning gays and lesbians from becoming foster or adoptive parents” was cleared to appear on this fall’s ballot in Arkansas.
Well, we certainly can’t have orphans moving into loving homes.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 26th, 2008 at 2:26 am#1 – Daryll Says:
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“I hope Arkansas votes for God.”
August 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Wow, I didn’t think you were in favor of allowing gays to adopt, but I’m glad to hear you say that you’re on the side of God in this instance, Daryll!
August 26th, 2008 at 7:43 amWell, this made for an interesting read this morning.
My 2 cents:
I believe Parodyll can google search the internet just as RHF can. I do not think that is the actual Parodyll. Parodyll’s posts are to off the wall hypocritical to be real. Case in point the “abomination” post, which caused quite the chaos of off topic arguments.
I believe RHF needs to up his(?) meds. Yes, he(?) is an intelligent poster, but he(?) loses points each and every time he attacks women, or makes fun of other’s looks or appearance.
Ironic that he(?) used to criticize JMH for being a women hater, then turns around and becomes one.
Back on topic, if this ballot passes, there will be more unloved children in this world.
I, for one, have no problem with unmarried couples adopting.
God forbid, if something happened to my wife and I and our immediate family was unable to raise our children, I have no problem with them being raised by 2 males, 2 females, or an unmarried couple, as long as they were loved.
I
August 26th, 2008 at 8:39 amAm
So
Tired
Of
Gay
Bashing!