That is not Journelism, it is a crime quite literally. The man should have been arrested.

Silly fascists and thier silly tactics.

That is not Journelism, it is a crime quite literally. The man should have been arrested.

Silly fascists and thier silly tactics.

That is, if they think.

Tracy__5 Says:
“No, Tracy, it wouldn’t “exempt Olberman from all journalism”. Sometimes Olberman does engage in real journalism, at least, insofar as his position calls for it.”

Considering he only presents his position and never calls into question liberals like Obama, his entire show is only a op-ed bit, not a “newscast”. This means that if he really engaged in real journalism, as you claim, he would present FULL context when he “reports the new” which would require him to present both sides of a story, which he doesn’t.

Jeezus, Tracy, you really are stupid.

I’m sorry to insult you so harshly, and I don’t say it lightly. But you really seem to have a difficulty processing language.

I never said Olberman’s show was a “newscast”. And real journalism does not require one to “present both sides of a story”.

It requires on to present the FACTS of a story, fairly and accurately. If one side has facts and the other side has lies, it is journalistic malpractice to present the lies as if they were equally valid.

“You keep defending it as newsworthy, but if it was newsworthy, why would he have to create a story?”

Just asking questions and letting the protestors present their viewpoint isn’t newsworthy? I am sure many people, including myself, are interested in hearing why these people are protesting.

It is not necessarily newsworthy, no. But you ignored my question.

And be honest, Trace, you aren’t at all interested in what these people are protesting, since you already dismissed them as “far left Loons”. All you’re interested in is how they can be used to make Democrats look bad.

That’s all Faux News in interested in, too, which is WHY it is not real journalism.

I really hope you understand it this time, because I’m getting tired of explaining shit to you.

Tracy__5 Says:

So by your own definition that would exempt Olbermann from all journalism, considering that is his MO with his biased one sided reporting.

No, Tracy, it wouldn’t “exempt Olberman from all journalism”. Sometimes Olberman does engage in real journalism, at least, insofar as his position calls for it.

But I wouldn’t consider Olberman’s show journalism in the sense that I am speaking of it here, either. He presents stories, and also offers opinion.

But what you seem to not want to get is that whether Olberman is a journalist or not has nothing to do with what ol’ Griff was trying to pull among the fringe protesters. Which was, essentially, generate news with himself in the story.

You keep defending it as newsworthy, but if it was newsworthy, why would he have to create a story?

He wouldn’t.

You did great griff jenkins… never back down from a lefty liberal. These protestors aren’t happy if they aren’t doing two things — ganging up on a smaller number of people (in this case one person) and living out their hippie parent’s stories from the 60’s. These loosers don’t know how good they got it. Plus there is a lot of mental illness to consider as well.
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You are an ignorant lying piece of garbage. Faux propaganda outfit shows there is no level of moral depravity to which they would not sink while you and GollyGeewhatamoronIam cheer it on as if it were worthwhile to show the rightwing is completely devoid of decency.

But you have already established that Faux is an Op-Ed entertainment group, not a news organization when you compared them to Olbermann.

August 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

What is with your inability respond to what is posted , instead of making shit up ?

Cite where I claimed that the “Loons on the Left” comprise the basis of the Democratic party , skid mark ; you can’t , because that isn’t what I wrote….

80% of the ENTIRE COUNTRY believes we are on the wrong track ; congrats to those whom you blindly and stupidly support for that , jerkweed……

I believe…

Yes, we’re already aware of your major weakness.

Tracy__5 Says:
“Antagonizing protesters to incite them to some form of reaction that he hopes will prove a point he’d like to demonstrate is not journalism.”

Letting these people speak for themselves is not putting into a crystal clear context? I would say it’s far more “real” than some spokesman for one of these groups offering up propoganda and talking points. Also it’s hard….real hard to take these protestors seriously.

Tracy, what part of “Antagonizing protesters to incite them to some form of reaction that he hopes will prove a point he’d like to demonstrate is not journalism.” was confusing to you?

Is it the mobile goal post that’s getting in your way?

I didn’t say Letting these people speak for themselves is not putting into a crystal clear context.

I said it’s not journalism.

“I would say it’s far more “real” than some spokesman for one of these groups offering up propoganda and talking points.”

I didn’t say it wasn’t “real”. I said it wasn’t journalism.

But then, since you admit that “it’s hard….real hard to take these protestors seriously” that’s pretty much an admission that they’re not worth coverage by a “real” news organization, right?

So it’s pretty clear that all you and Faux News are interested in a making the political opposition look as foolish as possible. I shouldn’t have to tell you this, but… THAT ain’t journalism, either, bucko.

Someone give the lady a fresh tampon…

Tracy__5 Says:
“The “loons on the left” are the foundation of the 80% of Americans who believe the US is headed in the wrong direction”

The “far left” isn’t the foundation of the real Democratic party. Don’t insult them with the suggestion that their “base” consists such riff raff. There is left and there is “far left” and somehow I don’t think most Democrats subscribe to the same political philosophy as those seen in those demonstrations. BTW if the “far left” did represent the true base of the Democratic party the number of protestors would actually have a decent crowd.

So… your point is that the protesters represent an insignificant fringe of the American electorate?

Then why do you think they deserve attention from a “journalist” who has to create his own news by provoking them?

You’re making less and less sense as the day wears on, Tracy.

Tracy__5 Says:
“And this, you think counts as “journalism”?”

No I don’t. Again why do you guys take yourself so seriously?…eventhough Jenkins does a very good job at letting people know about where these protestors are comming from, although I don’t think their “bosses” anticipated letting the foot soldiers speak so intelligently on their behalf.

Tracy, is it as futile as it seems to ask you to make sense once in a while?

Expecting a “News” channel to engage in actual “News” reporting is not really “taking ourselves so seriously”. It’s taking a news source seriously.

It’s understandable that you would not take a news source seriously, as your preferred news source is, again, Faux News.