Girl suicide bomber, 13, hands herself in to Iraqi police.

August 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

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And there had NEVER BEEN A SUICIDE BOMBING IN IRAQI HISTORY BEFORE THE INVASION. You really are a brainwashed piece of work

Can’t quite agree there toasty.

You make it sound like the Brits maintained a ‘civil war’ (“conflict”).
The Kurds, Shia and Sunni didn’t ‘get-along’ for centuries, vastly predating the UK presence.
The British re-introduced the idea of an Afghan ‘monarch’ to form a pseudo-centralized government which the Brits could then control. The ‘nation’ of Iraq was established for British geo-political convenience of course to counter Russian and German imperial ambitions. Certainly the Brits had no interest in establishing a democracy and didn’t give a damn about Kurd/Shia/Sunni conflicts UNLESS they interfered with British influence and interests.
Coal wasn’t the interest, but OIL, so what the UK cared about was the oil fields and the port of Basra. Kuwait, by the way was carved out of the region as another “protectorate”—which Hussein tried to reclaim in 1991.
Germany had designs on Iraqi oil to power its Navy and industry to challenge the UK and began extending a rail link to Baghdad from Berlin.
The Brits were already converting their Navy to oil-power prior to WWI. The assassination of Crown Prince Ferdinand was just a fortuitous excuse for a fight over the oil that would either sustain the British Empire or power a new German Empire.
All the ententes and treaties just complicated and obscured the issue.

The Iraqi’s “national identity” really rather came about NOT by the creation of Iraq as defined by the British on a map, but by the fact that the ‘Iraqis’ realized that they had a very valuable resource under their feet from which they weren’t benefiting but which had the world in a deadly uproar.

Note that ‘Iraq’ as a nation was maintained even after the British left and despite traditional Kurd/Shia/Sunni enmity and despite German and Russian attempts to take control too.

I’d argue that each group has its own interests and its own strengths and weaknesses: the Kurds have oil in the north; the Sunni have the agricultural center and larger population, and the Shia have some oil and the port. Each is communally better-off (technically) working with each other, not against each other and the UK did NOT as you suggest encourage civil strife per se—it was NOT in the UK’s business interest to do so.

The Iraqi ‘national identity’ was established by rejecting foreign occupation and interference. It remains to be seen whether Iraq will advance further along that path when the US leaves.

good_golly7 Says:
You really should cut down on the age bashing now that Obama has put up the Senior Senator from Delaware as his “running” mate.

That’s all you’ve got?

Gigi, I thought maybe a restful weekend would have helped you regain your edge. Apparently not.

You’re gonna need a month in a spa to rejuvenate your game. Or maybe a change of political viewpoint.

I even used bold when I presented the quote, goon.

US officials said she had turned herself in, while local police said she was caught after arousing suspicion.

Since the US officials weren’t there and the Iraqi police (who you’ve told us are standing up so we can stand down) were there, who do you suspect has the more accurate information?

Sad to see such a noteworthy troll just fall apart like this, but those are the breaks of the 10-cents-a-post game, I guess.

HECKUVA JOB!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TFKXHiefs

McCain was concerned about long drawn out wars and against nation building and the U.S. policing the world back then why not now? It is obvious that he and the rest of the republicans only support unnecessary wars and the unnecessary deaths of our soldiers when there is a republican president in charge.

I know that a few here may be disappointed in a way that this girl didn’t give them an opportunity to be the latest to post, “but… but…. I thought the surge was working,” but they should recognize what courage it took for this girl to turn against her family, and to not just choose to not blow up her own vest, but to also lead the authorities to a second vest. She likely saved dozens of lives.

That “read, goony, read” just flew right past you, didn’t it?

I’ll post it again, shorter: Police said the girl, called Rania, was caught on Sunday when she approached a checkpoint in Baghdad with a wire sticking out of her black robe.

Uh-no. We liberated Iraq from the dictator, and his own people charged him with crimes against humanity, tried him, convicted him and hung him — as he deserved.

I like this scenario for the near future: We liberated The U.S. from the dictators (Bush and Cheney), and their own people charged them with crimes against humanity, tried them, convicted them and hung them — as they deserved.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=girl+iraq+bomb&btnG=Search

Notice how many times the word “caught” appears on that page?

Read bilbo, read.

Not always so cut and dry. Read, goonie, read.

IRAQI police presented a teenage girl caught wearing an explosives vest to reporters yesterday, prodding her in the presence of the media to confess to plans to stage a suicide bombing.

The girl, who gave her first name as Rania, said she had been born in 1993, making her 15 or 16. She appeared confused but denied the allegation, saying she had not intended to carry out the attack and wanted to remove the vest.

Rania was arrested on Sunday in the city of Baquba, capital of the volatile Diyala province and an al-Qaeda stronghold. The officer said the girl had led police to where she was given the explosives and they found a second bomb belt in an empty apartment. The girl’s mother and sister were arrested. US officials said she had turned herself in, while local police said she was caught after arousing suspicion.

Read, goonie, read.

A 15-year-old Iraqi girl caught with a suicide vest said she was fitted with the explosives by a woman she did not know.

Police said the girl, called Rania, was caught on Sunday when she approached a checkpoint in Baghdad with a wire sticking out of her black robe.

The girl appeared confused as police pressed her for a confession in a videotape broadcast on Monday, but denied plans to blow herself up.

Informed Comment

54 Killed in Bombings, attacks;
Water Crisis;
Fixing the Intelligence Around the Policy

A suicide bomber attacked a celebration in Abu Ghraib late Sunday, killing at least 30 and wounding 42. The gathering was in honor of a former prisoner in a US prison who had just been released and was attended by police and by members of the local Awakening Council that has fought radical Muslim vigilantes on behalf of the US.

A rash of attacks in Baghdad, Diyala and Mosul, left at least 54 people killed and 70 injured on Sunday.

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Meanwhile, Al-Zaman reports in Arabic that the six million Baghdad residents are facing a severe shortage of clean water during the hellishly hot summer. Sadiq al-Shammari, the general director of Water Utility in the capital, said that residents of the capital only have access to half the clean water they need at a time when the temperature can reach 122 degrees Fahrenheit (50 C). Al-Shammari also said that every time the electricity goes out, it knocks out water production for 3 hours. He said 2.8 million square meters (roughly, yards) of water is produced for Baghdad, but that the demand is 4 million.

AFP has more on the water crisis.
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McClatchy reports other political violence in Iraq on Sunday:

‘ Baghdad

Four people including a policeman were killed and 15 others including two policemen were injured by successive bombing of two IEDs near Nahdha bus station in east Baghdad around 9:00 a.m.

Three civilians were killed and five others were wounded by a roadside bomb that targeted a civilian car in al Dyna area northeast Baghdad around 12:00 p.m.

Two civilians were injured by a roadside bomb in Doura neighborhood around 1:30 p.m.

Around 7:00 p.m. an IED exploded near Shaab Stadium in east Baghdad. No casualties were reported.

Police found one unidentified body in Palestine Street in east Baghdad. . .

Diyala

A civilian and a policeman were killed and four other people were wounded when gunmen opened fire inside a bus station in downtown Baquba city northeast of Baghdad around 11:15 a.m.

Three civilians were killed and five others were wounded by a roadside bomb in Dayniyah village east of Baquba city around 2:00 p.m.

Four Iraqi soldiers were killed and eight others were injured by an IED that targeted a patrol of the Iraqi army in Dayniyah village east of Baquba city around 2:30 p.m.

Nineveh

Three policemen and a civilian were injured when a suicide car bomb targeted a US army convoy in al Maliyah intersection in east Mosul on Sunday morning.

Two insurgents were killed while they were trying to plant an IED in al Zohoor neighborhood in downtown Mosul city on Sunday morning. ‘

August 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when someone NOT blowing themselves up is a newsworthy headline. Meanwhile, stories about suicide bombers who don’t turn themselves in get relegated to page A13.

God, trollie, you’re reeeeeeeeally stupid.

And in the process killed and injured hundreds of thousands, destroyed a lot of their infrastructure and their economy, displaced over 2 million people (some of whom were forced into prostitution just to survive), incarcerated tens of thousands without due process, allowed Al-Qaeda into Iraq, allowed ethnic-cleansing in the Baghdad suburbs, established cause for a generation of children to hate the US for their so-called ‘liberation’, established a government that only exists because of the deaths of over 4,100 US soldiers and the expenditure of over $600 billion of US taxpayer money thus far….

I could go on, but what matters to you is that one bad man who was supported by Reagan, Cheney and Rumsfeld in the 1980s and was provided by them with the tools to execute the crimes for which he was charged, and was given an ‘amber light’ to attack Kuwait by Bush41’s ambassador in 1991, met some justice.

Have you ever thought of going over to Iraq, GG, to receive at first-hand the thanks that you deserve for your support of the Bush/Neocon policies?

The movie, ‘Multiplicity’ shows the danger in cloning quite well.

g_g7 is a prime example of a cloned Troll who’s processors get fried when trying to reason.

And then there’s Dribbledick 10…