Brooks: ‘Most of the delegates’ at the DNC sound like ‘a North Korean pep rally.’
By on Aug 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Brooks: ‘Most of the delegates’ at the DNC sound like ‘a North Korean pep rally.’
On the PBS Newshour this evening, New York Times columnist David Brooks opined about the possibility of “unity at the Democratic National convention, claiming that while there are vocal supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) at the convention, “most of the delegates here have been fed these talking points here and they sound like a North Korean pep rally.” Watch it:
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Shut up you moron and go see an orthodontist.
August 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pmFile this under brain dead media. Nothing more to say about nimrod Brooks.
August 26th, 2008 at 8:32 pmDavid Brooks -what a fu(king dick.
August 26th, 2008 at 8:32 pmDav Idi mixes wisdom with reflux.
August 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pmSo the Democratic Party is now part of BushCo's axis of evil?
I didn't get the memo. Anyone?
PEACE
August 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pmYeah, and all those republibots at the repub 04 convention spontaneously showed up with flip flops and purple heart bandaids. Brooks makes friedman sound intelligent and thoughtful and makes kristol seem edgy by comparison.
August 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pmWhat does the central tenet of people gathering to have their voice heard have to do with North Korea, ruled by a dictatorial madman?
Oh, projection! Dav Idi Brooks resonates with tin pot strongmen. Now stop your vibrating there, big boy...
August 26th, 2008 at 8:39 pmThe NYT has a piece on all the Repugnicant heavy hitters headed to Denver. Romney, Guiliani, Rove, to go along with pinhead Brooksie Boy.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/romney-leads-gop-attack-on-obama-biden/
August 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pmSo we are there. The "smart" "thoughtful" conservatives are calling democrats pinkos. They know they are about to lose.
*glee*
August 26th, 2008 at 8:49 pmAnd we know what that brown stuff on your nose is, your reichwingnut wanker.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pmBrooks is like all right-wing gasbags.
He got pantsed in junior high and has had a grudge against normal people ever since.
He's still a pants candidate.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:11 pmHis point was that the Hillary supporters are still being ignored and disrespected.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pmBrooks is double dosing on his Cialis again.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:14 pm12. #
maur Says:
His point was that the Hillary supporters are still being ignored and disrespected.
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Of course it was. It's the right-wing Meme O' Th' Week.
As if right-wingers GIVE a rip about Hillary supporters -- except for the fact that the right wing was looking forward to an autumn of HillaryHate, and now they're screwed. Gee, too bad.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pmThe comments on this blog reads like a bunch of 12 year olds having a crybaby fit.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pmAnd you don't get that there are HILLARY supporters
August 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pmThen it's a good thing you are not posting here, maur.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm15. maur Says:
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And right-wingers LOVE them some babies:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
Why YOU'RE here, no doubt.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pmOh, Bobo, don't worry - most of the delegates at the Rethuglican convention will sound like a North Korea morgue.
They call it the enthusiasm gap. Or the senility gap.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:20 pmNothing says North Korea like diversity, opposition, a Katrina retrospective and call to action, benediction, and rallying against the executive.
Now when the GOP drones are worked into a frenzy about drilling and killing, hypocracy and idiocracy, they're just patriotic.
It's like their military health care plan is to just get every GOP-backer in gov't like Johnny Deranged.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:20 pmAnd you don’t get that there are HILLARY supporters
Go for it. Support Hillary. I'm sure she will need some support for whatever she does next year. Everybody needs support.
At this point in American History, the Republicans must be shown the door. If you are saying that there are Hillary supporters that will vote for the Republicans, then THEY don't get it and are behaving like Republicans and so, go... go vote for McCain. But please remember, we (well at least I) support proper governance, and that has been missing for too long.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:24 pmThe Republic plants, a.k.a. PUMA, are not having the effect that the right wing was hoping for. This of course does not prevent them from reporting their own personal wishes as news. It’s getting pretty obvious that they are reduced to creating news that doesn’t even exist.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:24 pmWhy does anyone even pay attention to Brooks, he has never said anything remotely intelligent. Oh wait, now i see why repugs love him.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:27 pmI've said it before. Even when he tries to "tone it down" for PBS, he's a condescending gasbag. I'll have to catch the replay on local TV to see what else he said.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:27 pmHAHAHAHAHA
repugs are so pissed about the dems win they are loosing it even more. I LOVE IT.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pmVery true, livelongandprosper.
And I might add that the issues facing our country are not "Right/Left" issues. They are issues of right and wrong.
Historically, I don't give a rip about the letter after a politician's name. But the modern GOP has supported bad policy, in virtual lockstep, for so long that they need a good spanking, to put it lightly.
Balance be damned. They need to be thwarted and have their legacy reversed.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:42 pmWell, Mr. Brooks, since you're such an expert on all things North Korean, why don't you explain to us how the convention qualifies. I'm so sick of republicans demonizing, at the very minimum, half of the American people. We're concerned, considerate, thoughtful, patriotic, hard working and love this country as what the founders intended it to be. But, since we're not boot-licking, brain-dead, automatons in subserviance to you and your masters, you consider us to be something less than a true citizen. I'd rather be anything than whatever it is that you are. And I wouldn't smell as bad either.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:52 pmBTW troll. Our comments may appear childish, to a child. But, what you detect is our utter contempt for a Reichwing apologist of the most snide and insinuating nature. He deserves no response of more wit than hoots and catcalls. Though it's not my style.
I prefer to just expand on the apparent faults of idiots who continue to carry water for the worst generation of politicians in American history. I ridicule their ignorance and spit at their hypocrisy.
So? Please forgive me for not stopping by to provide a response to a group of people who would find great difficulty in proving that they are worth the resources they consume. I hope you find it mature, reflective, and honest...
stupid troll.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:53 pmOT:
Just as I predicted, Bushie Judge rules against Bush when it comes to subpeanas of top and aides and documents:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080826/pl_nm/usa_congress_bush_dc
August 26th, 2008 at 9:54 pmexcuse me, "top aides and documents"
August 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pmmaur Says:
The comments on this blog reads like a bunch of 12 year olds having a crybaby fit.
Predicting how we all think of your inane, idiotic posts, Nostradumbass.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pmAnyone that would vote for McCain because Hillary didn't win the nomination is not a democrat or a progressive. They would do that simply out of spite, hatred, racism and selfishness. Meet the new whiners of America.
August 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pmHow many of the conservative pundits converted to McCainism after all of the "hopeful frontrunners" kept falling like individual houses of cards and that the pundits tried to derail the grand soldier of the republic?! Yeah, to say they went "kicking and screaming" to join John and Cindy's fife and drum would be to put it nicely.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:02 pmMr. Evil Says:
Anyone that would vote for McCain because Hillary didn’t win the nomination is not a democrat or a progressive. They would do that simply out of spite, hatred, racism and selfishness. Meet the new whiners of America.
When one of the leaders of this pro-Hillary group says on Hardball that McCain is a "moderate" and that she still hasn't made up her mind, this leads me to think that these people either want the process to favor them or they'll act like an undecided bloc that is...IMO...acting like a bunch of spoiled whiners, trying to hijack the system for their own selfish whims. Sometimes when people like this think they are doing the right thing, they are actually being the one thing they hate most, i.e. G.W. Bush circa Florida 2000.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:11 pmThis clown (Brooksie) hasn't seen the ball since the kickoff yet he is an authority on everything--David, you've been phoning your nonsense in for far too long. Thank God for Mark Shields who squashes his bs like a bug.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:18 pmI think I've figured out who this new troll, maur, really is!
MAUR = RUMA - Republicans United My Ass!
Today's daily jumble, brought to you courtesy of the GOP!
PEACE
August 26th, 2008 at 10:34 pm“most of the delegates here have been fed these talking points here and they sound like a North Korean pep rally.”
This is coming from a Republican, the party that shares one brain?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 26th, 2008 at 10:40 pmDavid Brooks should know. He is the authoritarians' mouthpiece!
August 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pmspencers_mom said:
So the Democratic Party is now part of BushCo’s axis of evil?
Well...we do hate America right?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 26th, 2008 at 10:42 pmLast night it was obvious that it was all Brooks could do to contain himself to get a KoolAide-induced talking point in sideways...
This pseudo-intellectual wanna-be, that obviously has NO independent thought working for him on any subject, is like the rest of the NeoCon nutbags that waits on the corner every morning for the KoolAide truck to arrive from Cheeeney's office...
What a joke.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:50 pmI think it's safe to say that a great many Americans haven't yet given serious thought to their vote. They don't develop much political fervor before the head to head contest. Many have not yet decided to vote, and many who intend to vote will stay home.
There are going to be an unknown number of Americans who will, when alone in the booth, vote for the white guy. That number will be significant either way and it would be foolish to deny it. Also significant will be the unknown number of unaffiliated voters who only know that Chimpy sucks and they will vote Dem to show their disaffection.
I do not honestly believe that many will vote for McSpin out of spite or for Hillary's sake. I think that, by election day, most people will be pissed-off enough to vote for the better candidate. It's just a hunch but that's where I would place my bet.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:56 pmBrooks is pathologically dishonest, like a good Republican pundit. He is also a lowlife.
August 26th, 2008 at 11:14 pmSpeaking of the NYT, this is infuriating: http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/the-oprah-fication-of-michelle-obama/#comment-40904
August 26th, 2008 at 11:23 pmMr. Evil Says:
Anyone that would vote for McCain because Hillary didn’t win the nomination is not a democrat or a progressive. They would do that simply out of spite, hatred, racism and selfishness. Meet the new whiners of America.
Oh, would you insane Obamaheads just STFU? Complete *ssh*les like you that belittle others because they're pissed off at the rampant racism, voter disenfranchisement and complete *ssh*le behavior of people like you that took no prisoners and demonized both Hillary and her supporters are the reason many voters are seriously considering McCain. If you're going to act like raging GOP *ssh*les and be complete sexist pigs with your "bros before hos" and every other b***sh*t, they say what's the difference? When Obama votes for the FISA crap, and is talking about restricting abortion being good - how exactly does he come across any different?
If you want to win in November, get off your self righteous and INSANE high horse and apologize for the sexism you idiots exhibited, apologize for ignoring the issues that caused those voters to not favor Obama, and campaign FOR those votes. Dismissing them in your dysfunctional bad parent way just shows how poorly suited you are to be a parent or a decent human being. Your complete lack of understanding, compassion and empathy is the same I see all of the time from the idiot TROLLS on this site. Either learn to campaign for those votes, or realize that *ssh*les like you are the reason Obama loses in November!
Oh, and Hillary ROCKED - and did EXACTLY what myself and almost every other Hillary supporter said she'd do. Honor the wishes of the party. It's that PHONY Obama that would have pulled a Lieberman like a whiny little brat if he'd lost. You Obamaheads are just as incapable of seeing reality as you've ever been...
August 26th, 2008 at 11:28 pmNow we can all say we've seen a babbling brook(s).
August 26th, 2008 at 11:37 pmHillary did, indeed Rock. She put party and country before her own ambition, and made me proud to be a Democrat.
August 26th, 2008 at 11:40 pmOne would hope her supporters would heed her vision for a new America.
O/T but I'm looking for a post-convention concerted effort to either overtly or subliminally get McNutcase to come un-glued. Put him right in the driver's seat on the Straight Jacket Express (tm).
August 26th, 2008 at 11:43 pmblah, blah, blah! Who cares what he can says?!
His comment only confirms that he is jealous.
LIVING IT AND LOVING IT!
August 26th, 2008 at 11:48 pmHeh. That's pure genius, ESL. :D
Toot toot!! Straight Jacket Express (tm) coming through....!
August 26th, 2008 at 11:48 pmComparing legitimate political opposition to 'the enemy' is something NORTH KOREA would do!
August 26th, 2008 at 11:49 pmSo next week at the GOP convention, who is going to be in-charge of running the laugh-box after the Republican speakers say how they've helped America, here and abroad?
I'm going to feel sorry for Brian Williams. David Gregory and Pat Buchanan are going to be rolling around in that slop like kids on X-mas morning.
August 26th, 2008 at 11:52 pmHey Zooey, still in a heatwave? It was 70 here today. :)
August 26th, 2008 at 11:53 pmHi, Keith. :)
Nope, it was 70 here too. Nice...
August 26th, 2008 at 11:56 pmRats, I wanted to rub it in. :)
August 26th, 2008 at 11:59 pmUnfortunately, I was tivoing CNN when Kucinich spoke and I don't know how much of his short speech I missed because they went to commercials. The part I saw was great.
Hmmm. It's seems like all the sane Hillary supporters have moved on as she has. The only insane one I'm familiar with? Not so much.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:01 amRUCerious Says:
Hillary did, indeed Rock. She put party and country before her own ambition, and made me proud to be a Democrat.
One would hope her supporters would heed her vision for a new America.
Her supporters already heed her vision, that's why they have reservations about Obama. If Obama heeds her vision and comes out clearly stating how he's going to deliver it instead of waffling on FISA, abortion rights, religious charity spending and every other 'right-leaning' tendency he exhibits - then her supporters will see he's a democrat instead of another McCain pretending to be a democrat which is what he comes across as right now. If he sounds like McCain, then these voters say why not vote for McCain since McCain and his minions didn't just s**t over Hillary for the last 9 months with vitriol, smears and demonizing...
If Obama wants to win, he needs to win over Hillary supporters as opposed to 'beating them down' the way the Zooniacs and assorted lunatics have tried to do over the last few months...
August 27th, 2008 at 12:01 amrepublicans hate facts Says:
Oh, would you insane Obamaheads just STFU? Complete *ssh*les like you that belittle others because they’re pissed off at the rampant racism, voter disenfranchisement and complete *ssh*le behavior of people like you that took no prisoners and demonized both Hillary and her supporters are the reason many voters are seriously considering McCain. If you’re going to act like raging GOP *ssh*les and be complete sexist pigs with your “bros before hos” and every other b***sh*t, they say what’s the difference? When Obama votes for the FISA crap, and is talking about restricting abortion being good - how exactly does he come across any different?
If you want to win in November, get off your self righteous and INSANE high horse and apologize for the sexism you idiots exhibited, apologize for ignoring the issues that caused those voters to not favor Obama, and campaign FOR those votes. Dismissing them in your dysfunctional bad parent way just shows how poorly suited you are to be a parent or a decent human being. Your complete lack of understanding, compassion and empathy is the same I see all of the time from the idiot TROLLS on this site. Either learn to campaign for those votes, or realize that *ssh*les like you are the reason Obama loses in November!
Oh, and Hillary ROCKED - and did EXACTLY what myself and almost every other Hillary supporter said she’d do. Honor the wishes of the party. It’s that PHONY Obama that would have pulled a Lieberman like a whiny little brat if he’d lost. You Obamaheads are just as incapable of seeing reality as you’ve ever been…
Oh, all this delicious irony and hypocrisy...I don't know where to begin. But alas, in the last few hours I've learned from Hillary humility isn't just contrition and the next step forward is the first step to victory. If you know who the enemy is, it's not Obama. No way. No how.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:01 amWe've got it on the Zoo, Keith. :)
August 27th, 2008 at 12:02 ampete Says:
Hmmm. It’s seems like all the sane Hillary supporters have moved on as she has. The only insane one I’m familiar with? Not so much.
ROTFL, and the insane Obamaheads keep trashing a significant portion of the Democratic party they need to win in November. Good luck with that strategy, I'm sure it'll make you win and not put Obama dead even with McCain in a year the RNC has never been so unpopular. Oh wait... Crickets...
August 27th, 2008 at 12:02 amHave we witnessed the birth of the "ClinTroll"? It would provide an amusing counterpoint to the McTrolls.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:03 amRemember Fractured Fairy Tales? Brooks would be the guy with the shovel and and mobile can that follows the elephants in the parade...tasked with picking up the pachycrap.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:04 ampete Says:
I do not honestly believe that many will vote for McSpin out of spite or for Hillary’s sake. I think that, by election day, most people will be pissed-off enough to vote for the better candidate. It’s just a hunch but that’s where I would place my bet.
You haven't been on the other end of YOUR vitriol for the past 9 months. How happy would you be voting for Hillary? Well, multiply that discontent by 10 fold and you have a huge swath of the Democratic party.
You can reach out to those voters (even me), but so far Obama has been horrible at doing it and his followers (you) have been worse. That dysfunctional parent routine of 'do what I say' or you're 'crazy' or 'spiteful' or whatever is just exactly the wrong way to win over Hillary voters. Most of us are pissed off at the DNC, the rampant sexism, the swing to the right of Obama. You want Obama to win in November - address those issues and stop WHINING at people that have a legitimate beef with the party and the candidate.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:06 ampete Says:
Have we witnessed the birth of the “ClinTroll”? It would provide an amusing counterpoint to the McTrolls.
F**k off you stupid, whiny, insane Obamahead...
August 27th, 2008 at 12:06 amPete, you should have pulled your head out of your stupid fat **s long enough to hear Hillary's speech with an OPEN MIND. You might not be such a misogynistic, sexist fat pig at the end of it and understood why your behavior is so destructive to Obama.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:08 amrhf is spreading peace, love and joy, as per usual. :P
August 27th, 2008 at 12:09 amOh yeah, RHF, you've learned humility! That's for sure!
August 27th, 2008 at 12:11 amrepublicans hate facts Says:
You haven’t been on the other end of YOUR vitriol for the past 9 months. How happy would you be voting for Hillary? Well, multiply that discontent by 10 fold and you have a huge swath of the Democratic party.
You can reach out to those voters (even me), but so far Obama has been horrible at doing it and his followers (you) have been worse. That dysfunctional parent routine of ‘do what I say’ or you’re ‘crazy’ or ’spiteful’ or whatever is just exactly the wrong way to win over Hillary voters. Most of us are pissed off at the DNC, the rampant sexism, the swing to the right of Obama. You want Obama to win in November - address those issues and stop WHINING at people that have a legitimate beef with the party and the candidate.
Wait a minute, you're complaining that we're telling YOU what to do, but you and the like are threating to swing the WHOLE ELECTION to a Republican, essentially George Bush III just because of your dis-satisfaction with the Democratic candidate?! Uh, there is a word for that. Care to guess which one?
August 27th, 2008 at 12:11 amIf the ClinTroll ever actually read anything before it spews all over the place, it would realize that I was ambivalent through the primary process, but, neither Hillary or Obama would have been my first choice.
However, Obama has emerged as a stronger, more tested, candidate than either would have been without the hard fight. I like his chances.
And anyone with the normal helping of functional cerebral cortex realizes that Obama is the only realistic alternative to a goof-ball who may be more reckless and radical than the Chimp in Chief.
I've never belonged to a party and never will. I vote based on the words and deeds of the candidates, with little regard to their party platform. So you can take your "insane Obamaniac", fold it four ways, light it on fire, and ram it in your southern orifice you arrogant, ignorant, fecal pellet.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:14 amrhf-
Hillary gets it...why don't you?
August 27th, 2008 at 12:15 amQuick poll folks, just to ease my mind, did I say anything about either Clinton or Obama?
I just like to check when someone, even a ClinTroll, present such a radically different version of reality than actual events would suggest.
And I don't know where the "misogynistic" crap came from. WTF?
August 27th, 2008 at 12:18 amThe ClinTroll should be a fantasy writer for the criminally insane. It's one of the more unique cases I'm familiar with.
I thought this was campfire Kum Ba Yah night?
August 27th, 2008 at 12:18 amKeith
I think RHF didn't get the text message on that.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:20 amSorry Keith. I just came to denigrate the arrogant gasbag David Brooks. But, I got sidetracked. I've never claimed to be above getting sidetracked, or distracted. Especially when I'm accused of being something I've never represented myself to be, by a froth-mouthed lunatic.
My apologies.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:22 amThat dysfunctional parent routine of ‘do what I say’ or you’re ‘crazy’ or ’spiteful’ or whatever is just exactly the wrong way to win over Hillary voters.
This "Hillary voters" demographic has two distinct components: grass-roots voters, and those who could've expected placement in a Clinton administration. Guess which component is at the convention, making a stink? These folk are there, looking for political concessions, not political niceties. To them, respect is measured in power, and they are not above stroking their politically unlearned cohort to achieve it.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:24 amY'all should all be watching Lewis Black on Comedy Central until the replay of Stewart and Colbert runs. Laughter lowers blood pressure.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:24 amUnderstandable, Pete, understandable.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:25 ampete,
You didn't do anything out of line -- ever. The rhf troll spews his vomit in all directions.
He can't help himself, he's a psychotic bully.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:26 amRHF, people like you should just vote for McCain. Nobody cares. If you really believe that Obama himself was sexist towards Hillary you are delusional enough to be a 20 percenter that thinks Bush has been doing a good job. You're the kind of guy who would want a divorce and then keep telling his spouse how to live her life. You're not dealing from a position of power and you're too crazed to even realize it.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:27 amPete, can I borrow this some time?
.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:30 amRHF, if you'd read Obama's Audacity, you'd see that his positions are consistent with his vision. He's moving right becuase that's what it takes to get legislation passed in this environment.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:31 amGood luck voting for McKinney or Barr or Nader.
Shayne Says:
Pete, can I borrow this some time?
So you can take your “insane Obamaniac”, fold it four ways, light it on fire, and ram it in your southern orifice you arrogant, ignorant, fecal pellet
.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:30 am
By all means Shayne. It would be an honor.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:31 amThanx gang. I figure it never hurts to check. LOL!
August 27th, 2008 at 12:33 amRUC, are you speaking logic there?
It's a good one pete!
August 27th, 2008 at 12:35 am"I am still on the learning curve here, and I do realize that mixture of a crack with a serious accusation was incredibly stupid on my part...Please do pass along to readers that I'm aware of how foolish I was to write the column in the way I did." Brooks apologized for this comment made on January 6, 2004, when he wrote a column in the New York Times that seemed to accuse critics of the Iraq war of anti-Semitism, claiming "to hear these people describe it, PNAC is sort of a Yiddish Trilateral Commission, the nexus of the sprawling neocon tentacles" and that "anti-Semitism is resurgent"
Well, I don't care who runs PNAC or what their personal beliefs are. Its still crazy, immoral and highly dangerous.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:53 amBrooks: ‘Most of the delegates’ at the DNC sound like ‘a North Korean pep rally.’
Didn't even realize that the Dems knew how to speak Korean ; and that Brooks also understands that language.............
If Brooks is so fluent in so many languages , how come his obviously partisan GOP ass never instructed Chimpy on how to speak English , even somewhat mediocre ?
August 27th, 2008 at 12:53 amHouse of Roberts Says:
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Y’all should all be watching Lewis Black on Comedy Central until the replay of Stewart and Colbert runs. Laughter lowers blood pressure.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:24 am
There is nothing "funny" about the last 8 years ...........A helluva' lot of people have died ; and quite needlessly...........
August 27th, 2008 at 12:56 amrepublicans hate facts Says:
F**k off you stupid, whiny, insane Obamahead…
You really shouldn't do all your meth stash at once RHF.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:03 amReally.
You are sounding as loony as P and half as mature.
I'm not so sure MCM. I think that laughter, even if it's a bit grim, is quite often the healthiest response to horrific things. Laugh, scream, or cry. They all help, but, when you get it out of your system you gotta move on and make reasoned decisions.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:03 amI was referencing the infighting on the thread, not the macro. Divide and conquer is a Rovian tactic, with a side order of Limpballs' Op. Chaos thrown in. There is no good future if McSame keeps this close enough for the Caging and Diebold to steal it.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:04 amWhoa... talk about a bad smell...
What happened... leave the door unlocked and a bunch of GOOPers barge in???
Someone needs to get out the hose and wash this place down...
August 27th, 2008 at 1:04 amThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Whoa… talk about a bad smell…
What happened… leave the door unlocked and a bunch of GOOPers barge in???
Someone needs to get out the hose and wash this place down…
Waders, don't forget the waders.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:10 amTennis shoes would never again be as fresh as football teams locker room.
HIP... waders, Wayne... HIP waders... or perhaps even one of those full body HAZMAT suits w/ the respirators...
August 27th, 2008 at 1:16 am"Infighting"? I think not. Just an odd-ball in need of a spanking. RHF is quite famous for a offensive style. Crud and boorish from the start and, usually, easy to ignore. But, sometimes certain untruths are said which need to be confronted with equal portions of wit and venom. And I must concede a certain lack of patience with liars and fools.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:17 amRead the thread...
I guess Brooks knows what a North Korean pep rally is, or looks like, due to being there.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:20 ampete Says:
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I’m not so sure MCM. I think that laughter, even if it’s a bit grim, is quite often the healthiest response to horrific things. Laugh, scream, or cry. They all help, but, when you get it out of your system you gotta move on and make reasoned decisions.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:03 am
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House of Roberts Says:
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I was referencing the infighting on the thread, not the macro. Divide and conquer is a Rovian tactic, with a side order of Limpballs’ Op. Chaos thrown in. There is no good future if McSame keeps this close enough for the Caging and Diebold to steal it.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Point(s) taken , understood and accepted ..........
I'm merely frustated , like I'm sure you both are , as well as almost everyone that posts here ; fighting amongst ourselves (even though we all do not agree implicitly on many things ; and that's a good thing) , is not what any of us , or this country , really needs right now.
I'm merely irritated at how a moronic mental furball like Brooks , is constantly given a platform to spew inane remarks , that are so obviously partisan.
It bothers me further that it seems no one , outside of forums such as TP and those who post here and similar settings , are concerned about freedoms , rights , or even general decent governance ; much less , speaking for the over 1 million Iraqis who have already been slaughtered .............It's sad.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:21 amI’m merely frustated , like I’m sure you both are , as well as almost everyone that posts here -MCM
Im not frustrated.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:27 amHey wait a minute, Brooks looks a little bit like Kim Jong il.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:27 amwatch this video/documentary MCM about North Korea and you'll see no 'liberals' exist in North Korea, sure whats his name talks about rallies, but its not so. Liberalism is a product of Capitalism.
Welcome to north Korea:
August 27th, 2008 at 1:30 amhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3742145385913859804
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I’m merely frustated , like I’m sure you both are , as well as almost everyone that posts here -MCM
Im not frustrated.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:27 am
I can live with being wrong about 1 individual ........Isn't the 1st time.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:31 amXisithrus Says:
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watch this video/documentary MCM about North Korea and you’ll see no ‘liberals’ exist in North Korea, sure whats his name talks about rallies, but its not so. Liberalism is a product of Capitalism.
Welcome to north Korea:
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=-3742145385913859804
August 27th, 2008 at 1:30 am
True liberalism , is a by-product of many things ; not just Capitalism..........
August 27th, 2008 at 1:32 amI can live with being wrong about 1 individual ……..Isn’t the 1st time. -McM
Why? If I might ask.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:33 amTrue liberalism , is a by-product of many things ; not just Capitalism……
Define Capitalism.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:34 amXisithrus Says:
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I can live with being wrong about 1 individual ……..Isn’t the 1st time. -McM
Why? If I might ask.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:33 am
Why can I live with it ?
Is that your question ?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:34 amWhy can I live with it ?
Is that your question ? -McM
Im asking
August 27th, 2008 at 1:36 amXisithrus Says:
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True liberalism , is a by-product of many things ; not just Capitalism……
Define Capitalism.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:34 am
My definition of it ?
GREED, in this day and age ...........
August 27th, 2008 at 1:36 amWell, it's trite but true that "things are seldom as good as one hopes, or as bad as one fears". Though I stipulate that A LOT is bad.
However, on good days, I can share the excitement that so much, both urgent and extraneous, can be changed in the near future. Frankly, it's been decades since our country was so agitated/excited/moyivated, and, historically that's has made things happen very quickly. Good things can snowball as well as bad.
All that being said, I'm frustrated, impatient and apprehensive as well. But that's just common sense.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:37 amGREED, in this day and age ………..
True, but in how many ways can one be exploited?
Cars?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:38 amWine?
Women?
Song?
Horrible typing. Effing cat!
August 27th, 2008 at 1:39 amXisithrus Says:
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Why can I live with it ?
Is that your question ? -McM
Im asking
August 27th, 2008 at 1:36 am
HUH ???
Okay
I never believed , nor wanted , to be infallible ; no matter how smart you or I may be (and it seems as if you truly are , X) , humility and a certain humbleness is more integral in the making of an enlightened mind and human being.......
August 27th, 2008 at 1:39 amAll that being said, I’m frustrated, impatient and apprehensive as well. But that’s just common sense.
I would say that its not you that frustrates yourself but that society is what frustrates.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:40 amXisithrus Says:
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GREED, in this day and age ………..
True, but in how many ways can one be exploited?
Cars?
Wine?
Women?
Song?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:38 am
It goes beyond one's exploitation ; the influence you have on others.
Especially if you're a person with power/a certain degree of credibility/believability or maybe "muscle" ; if you know what that means......
August 27th, 2008 at 1:42 amI never believed , nor wanted , to be infallible ; no matter how smart you or I may be (and it seems as if you truly are , X) , humility and a certain humbleness is more integral in the making of an enlightened mind and human being……. -McM
We are all fallible. Smart is nothing more than memory. I have no wisdom.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:44 amXisithrus Says:
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All that being said, I’m frustrated, impatient and apprehensive as well. But that’s just common sense.
I would say that its not you that frustrates yourself but that society is what frustrates.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:40 am
But we are also to blame for that.
We are a part of that society , regardless of to what extent , and are just as liable.
That's what so pisses me off about the phoniness of the GOP , their backers , and especially the imbecilic trolls who post their insipid piss here.
That whole "party of personal responsibility " shit , is about as applicable as "government intelligence"..........
August 27th, 2008 at 1:45 amIt goes beyond one’s exploitation ; the influence you have on others.
Influence today seems, to me, to be nothing more than wealth and material possession.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:45 amXisithrus Says:
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I never believed , nor wanted , to be infallible ; no matter how smart you or I may be (and it seems as if you truly are , X) , humility and a certain humbleness is more integral in the making of an enlightened mind and human being……. -McM
We are all fallible. Smart is nothing more than memory. I have no wisdom.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:44 am
Wrong
Being able to make prudent choices isn't all based upon "memory"..........
August 27th, 2008 at 1:46 amWhy would I, or you, or anyone, here for a short while, allow any of these things to persuade you? I feel you dont and this is a cause for much frustration because people do allow it to control or corrupt them and politics as well.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:47 amXisithrus Says:
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It goes beyond one’s exploitation ; the influence you have on others.
Influence today seems, to me, to be nothing more than wealth and material possession.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Which we are all to blame for/be held responsible for.
I know I'm not part of "society" , in almost any sense ; but I am still not exonerated in any way because of that.
Holding yourself accountable , no matter the situation , even if you are part of the 'fringe' , is the way it should be....
Hell , we can all just claim that we were POW's , or something akin or similar to that............
August 27th, 2008 at 1:50 amBeing able to make prudent choices isn’t all based upon “memory”…
I said smart is nothing more than memory. I didnt say smart, or rote training, led to prudent choices. In fact, looking at the so called intellectuals of today, the rote trained ones do not make prudent decisions [choices] Take Feith for instance.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:52 amHolding yourself accountable , no matter the situation , even if you are part of the ‘fringe’ , is the way it should be…
Surely I lie awake at night and wonder how I can change things, and feel a certain responsibility, good people do, but I refuse to be frustrated.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:54 amXisithrus Says:
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Why would I, or you, or anyone, here for a short while, allow any of these things to persuade you? I feel you dont and this is a cause for much frustration because people do allow it to control or corrupt them and politics as well.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:47 am
It isn't about 'persuasion' alone , X ; there are those who aren't you or I , and who still believe , and you know this , in the GOP.
We are what we are ; as adamant and definitely harsh as I am to those who worship the GOP that post here , I would help them in real life , before being asked.
And it definitely isn't because I'm a "good man".
There is plenty of time to sort things out afterwards , and ask questions ; to want to go through life using "cowboy diplomacy" , is one of the most callous , inhuman and simply asinine things I've ever seen , and I've seen quite a bit.......
August 27th, 2008 at 1:55 amWhy, when I look back thru history, I see our best and birghtest have made the worst decisions possible.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:57 amXisithrus Says:
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Being able to make prudent choices isn’t all based upon “memory”…
I said smart is nothing more than memory. I didnt say smart, or rote training, led to prudent choices. In fact, looking at the so called intellectuals of today, the rote trained ones do not make prudent decisions [choices] Take Feith for instance.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Who the hell ever claimed Faith was smart ?
Don't you remember what , I believe it was Tommy Franks , said about Feith ?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:58 amXisithrus Says:
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Holding yourself accountable , no matter the situation , even if you are part of the ‘fringe’ , is the way it should be…
Surely I lie awake at night and wonder how I can change things, and feel a certain responsibility, good people do, but I refuse to be frustrated.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Well , besides being a better person than I am (don't get all giddy ; I ain't a good person) , perhaps it's your age that helps you with that.........
Are you under the age of 40 ?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:59 amIt isn’t about ‘persuasion’ alone , X ; there are those who aren’t you or I , and who still believe , and you know this , in the GOP.
We are what we are ; as adamant and definitely harsh as I am to those who worship the GOP that post here , I would help them in real life , before being asked.
And it definitely isn’t because I’m a “good man”.
There is plenty of time to sort things out afterwards , and ask questions ; to want to go through life using “cowboy diplomacy” , is one of the most callous , inhuman and simply asinine things I’ve ever seen , and I’ve seen quite a bit…….
I dont disagree with what you say, here, MCM, I simply am not frustrated by current events. Yes, humanity is a travesty and I wish to correct it, but being frustrated, I think, is not conducive.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:59 amWell , besides being a better person than I am (don’t get all giddy ; I ain’t a good person) , perhaps it’s your age that helps you with that………
Are you under the age of 40 ?
No, I am over 40. and I am better than none.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:01 amXisithrus Says:
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Why, when I look back thru history, I see our best and birghtest have made the worst decisions possible.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:57 am
But it's also difficult to ascertain why .......
We are not privy to every happenstance , circumstance and event that might sway someone's decision or judgement.........
August 27th, 2008 at 2:02 am.
Just wait until the NeoCONNED Republican'ts chant, "Sieg Heil!"
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August 27th, 2008 at 2:02 amXisithrus Says:
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Well , besides being a better person than I am (don’t get all giddy ; I ain’t a good person) , perhaps it’s your age that helps you with that………
Are you under the age of 40 ?
No, I am over 40. and I am better than none.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:01 am
You are better than at least 1.............
August 27th, 2008 at 2:02 amXisithrus Says:
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It isn’t about ‘persuasion’ alone , X ; there are those who aren’t you or I , and who still believe , and you know this , in the GOP.
We are what we are ; as adamant and definitely harsh as I am to those who worship the GOP that post here , I would help them in real life , before being asked.
And it definitely isn’t because I’m a “good man”.
There is plenty of time to sort things out afterwards , and ask questions ; to want to go through life using “cowboy diplomacy” , is one of the most callous , inhuman and simply asinine things I’ve ever seen , and I’ve seen quite a bit…….
I dont disagree with what you say, here, MCM, I simply am not frustrated by current events. Yes, humanity is a travesty and I wish to correct it, but being frustrated, I think, is not conducive.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:59 am
I respectfully disagree
Being frustated is better than being angry and/or hateful.........
August 27th, 2008 at 2:04 amI respectfully disagree
Being frustated is better than being angry and/or hateful………
And what does frustration give you in return?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:08 amI think at this point, all I can add is...
G'night good people.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:11 amYou too trolls.
GN Pete
August 27th, 2008 at 2:11 amAnd what does frustration give you in return?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:08 am
I'll take a quick stab at that, before I retire. Frustration is as much a product of impatience as it is disaffection. And it, like humor, is a perfectly healthy response. The challenge is to avoid becoming invested in frustration or allowing it to feed apathy and despair.
As unsatisfying as Convention stumping can be there is still a sense of the strengths inherent in our society. As I said earlier, it's been a long time since We The People really exercised our will. And if we do as good a job with our, legitimate, internal enemies as we have, historically, done with legitimate external enemies.
G'night again.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:20 amWhy is that I feel like crawling into some cave and hiding there for the next 30 years? "Oh, how stale, flat and unprofitable seem to me the uses of the world..." or something like that from W. Shakepeare. What is it? Too much hoopla, Olympics, Democrats, Republicans, nobody else allowed, who cares, protesters in barbed wire cages. Why don't I care? And I'm a Democratic. Sigh......:-(
August 27th, 2008 at 2:28 amThe challenge is to avoid becoming invested in frustration or allowing it to feed apathy and despair. -Pete
Well said Pete, and GN omce again.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:29 amIt would be challenging to find an investment of 'any' kind, nowadays.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:31 amI refuse to be frustrated and give it empowerment.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:35 amYeah, maybe you're right. Are they putting something in our air?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:36 amjkd7854 Says:
It would be challenging to find an investment of ‘any’ kind, nowadays.
Well, I would say rhodium or another precious metal besides gold. That is gold, looking to history, will be taken away from those holding it to support the dollar.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:36 amYeah, maybe you’re right. Are they putting something in our air?
Are they?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:37 amI was thinking more along the lines of 'Chem Trails'
August 27th, 2008 at 2:38 amI was thinking more along the lines of ‘Chem Trails’
What do you think?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:39 amMaybe all that stuff they used to seed the clouds over in Bejing to make it rain, came over here?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:39 amI did notice a strange absence of air pollution on a few days during the opening of the Olympics. Makes sense, since the Chinese curbed, albeit temporarily major sources of air pollution
August 27th, 2008 at 2:42 amMaybe all that stuff they used to seed the clouds over in Bejing to make it rain, came over here?
Did they?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:43 amIt is very rare to have Good air quality on the West Coast in So. Calif. in the Summer.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:43 amIt is very rare to have Good air quality on the West Coast in So. Calif. in the Summer.
Maybe its because of El Nina?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:44 amOf course, with all the fires, we need some rain.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:45 amIs it an El Nino year or a La Nina year?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:46 amOf course, with all the fires, we need some rain.
Florida is flooded, lets 140 some water to Cali,
August 27th, 2008 at 2:46 amIs it an El Nino year or a La Nina year?
Which do you prefer?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:47 amThe whole planet weather systems are screwed up. Al Gore is right. They are actually opening up new shipping lanes in the Artic Sea, becuase during the summer, ships will be able to travel across the North Pole without breaking ice.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:49 amGreat, fires make good air quality in Cali.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:49 amThe whole planet weather systems are screwed up. Al Gore is right. They are actually opening up new shipping lanes in the Artic Sea, becuase during the summer, ships will be able to travel across the North Pole without breaking ice.
Its called precession.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:50 amI don't think it's a question of whether I prefer La Nina or El Nino. It's just that each one causes a disruption in the normal weather patterns and somewhere they are going to suffer. Whether it be drought or excessive rain. For instance, we need rain here in So. Calif. but too much would cause a lot of trouble.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:51 amI don’t think it’s a question of whether I prefer La Nina or El Nino. It’s just that each one causes a disruption in the normal weather patterns and somewhere they are going to suffer.
Thermohaline conveyor.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:52 amjkd7854
Where do you think cold water, from melting ice, goes?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:53 amClue: Down.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:54 amI agree with that. There is precession of the the equinoxes. But that takes 10,000 years. Once, Vega was the North Star instead of Polaris. This is like a top spinning. What is more immediate might be a polar shift or a sudden change in the earrhs magnetic field.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:54 amI agree with that. There is precession of the the equinoxes. But that takes 10,000 years
The precession cycle is 26,ooo years. The next house, after Jesus piscean one is the House of aquarius, IE pouring water.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:55 amCold water from melting ice changes the alkalinity of the oceans and causes drastic changes in temperatures and current drives. For instance, a sudden even partial melting of Greenland would alter the Gulf Stream current which warms up the Atlantic and Great Britain and Europe could go through a mini ice age. And we're talking years, not centuries.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:57 amAnyway, a pleasure talking with you. Nobody seems to be using this chat room at this time, and we are a little off topic and I am going to retire. Goodnight
August 27th, 2008 at 2:59 amCold water from melting ice changes the alkalinity of the oceans and causes drastic changes in temperatures and current drives. For instance, a sudden even partial melting of Greenland would alter the Gulf Stream current which warms up the Atlantic and Great Britain and Europe could go through a mini ice age. And we’re talking years, not centuries.
The Sun has been quiet [no solar flares, for three years] the last mini ace age correlated with the maunder minimun The earth is a living object and is trying to correct.
August 27th, 2008 at 3:00 amAnyway, a pleasure talking with you.
And you as well.
August 27th, 2008 at 3:02 ammaur Says:
The comments on this blog reads like a bunch of 12 year olds having a crybaby fit.
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I am sure they do to someone as ignorant as you. YOUR posts read like the snivelling of a braindead moron.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:10 amBrooks is a rich celebrity bloviator that is terrified of loosing his position of power and priviledge afforded him as one of the village elders. Obama should freeze out these shills for the Republican Party and the status quo. No access will mean their careers are finished and America can get on with repairing the damage.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:30 amHeh.... After almost eight long years of "Dear Leader"-style adoration of George W. Bush - who can do no wrong, according to the GOP - this wingnut has the nerve to describe the genuine enthusiasm that Democrats have for Obama as a "North Korean pep rally"?
Last time I checked, no one forced the people attending the Democratic National Convention to fly to Denver and show up at the convention center. There were no armed men standing at the door, preventing people from leaving and making sure that everyone is cheering.
I think that the GOP has candidate-envy. They can't stand their candidate, and they're just jealous that we love our's. Sheesh.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 amThis kind of nonsense would evaporate if the media would just do their jobs by asking questions like "How are you familiar with North Korean pep rallies?" "Exactly what goes on at one?" "How do you know these things when most of the Western world does not?" "What exactly are the similarities between these two apparently disparate events?"
But it never occurs to the "media" to ask even these simple questions. Incredible. I am continually perplexed as to what qualifications or intellect makes one suitable to go into the profession of journalism these days.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:46 amInnocent Bysstander @ 61:
August 27th, 2008 at 11:04 amThat was Mr. Peabody and Sherman. Otherwise, right on.
I thought PBS did a wonderful job at the convention... we kept switching from the major channels to see who was covering what, and if you really want to see and hear ALL of the other speekers, without the mindless and endless talkover, then PBS is the place to watch.
With that said, however, Brooks seemed incredibly twitchy, and uncomfortable, and I was uncomfortable watching him. It also seems that the other show hosts and guests have sharpened their claws and tongues. I'm waiting for a brawl.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pmBetter than sounding like the Reichknesset, hey Davo?
August 28th, 2008 at 2:24 am