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Until you guys come up with a viable alternative to the duly elected nominee to the democratic party as a solution for your gripes then I just can’t take you seriously.

I love how “Progressives” like their Conservative Brethren/Sisters always label anyone an alcoholic, idiot, whatever that dares to point out how rigged the system is. The left loves to refer to Bill Clinton as a great president and the right gives praises to GW Bush. They both are globalists, corporatists, and warmongers. Obama sounded good until he started kissing AIPAC, Telecom, and Military-Industrial butt. You can spout all you want about “change”, but for this time, I will most likely vote with conscience instead of getting kicked in the stomach or punched in the head, and then vote for the one who kicked me in the stomach.

When you finally see that both parties are simply two sides to the same Corporate, Globalist, Military Coin, then perhaps there will be a chance for the USA to show its true Constitutional Colors.

Right now, Obama is another phony, with a VP who is a self-proclaimed Zionist and Surveillance advocate, as well as shutting Scott Ritter up and advocating invasion of Iraq BEFORE Bush and Cheney.

By The Way, the first change a person can make is to not accept in themselves, the attitude that one can’t change certain things. We can always move to Norway or Sweden. IT really is pitiful that the Pravda has more freedom than American media.

No, we have sand in our eyes from our so called progressive brothers doing all they can to keep us from moving forward.

Forward is forward. If you can’t see that a vote for anyone other than obama at this point is going backwards then you don’t understand the definition of a conservative which as FDR put it is “a man with two perfectly good legs that refuses to walk forward”

The whining is starting to hurt my ears. Are you guys all alcoholics? Do you not understand that you must change the things you can and acknowledge the things you can’t?

Until you guys come up with a viable alternative to the duly elected nominee to the democratic party as a solution for your gripes then I just can’t take you seriously.

What are you left with quido?

I think Guido is a Constitutionalist, as I am. When did “Progressives” think the 4th Amendment to the Constitution could be hammered? Obama is a sell out, and the country is being taken down a path while smiling and dancing.

When I hear Ed “Blowhard” Schultz saying, “Obama did it to not give ammunition to the right”, my skin crawls. Will the Left sell out the Constitution to get anyone in other than McBush? Will the Left OK taking on Russia since Obama lied about that? Why did Obama run to AIPAC the day after he accepted the nomination? Joe Biden is a big surveillance freak.

Of course, McNuts is worse, but stop with the Obama The Savior crap. Obama’s ratings fell right after his vote on 4th Amendment destruction, and even a 5 percent drop could be dangerous. Obama supporters have stars in their eyes, and refuse to see these things.

EugeneDebs Says:
I AM FIGHTING BACK PERIOD

I’m with you!

In an ideal world I’d love it if we didn’t have to get nasty but if it takes a brawl to get to the White House then so be it! It’s on baby! Those right-wingers who think that all liberals are ‘vegetarian sandal-wearing, prius-driving’ wusses haven’t met me! (Not that there’s anything wrong with vegetables, sandals or priuses mind you)
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I have to admit I love my Birkenstocks. Doesnt mean I can’t or wont throw down.

I’m with you!

In an ideal world I’d love it if we didn’t have to get nasty but if it takes a brawl to get to the White House then so be it! It’s on baby! Those right-wingers who think that all liberals are ‘vegetarian sandal-wearing, prius-driving’ wusses haven’t met me! (Not that there’s anything wrong with vegetables, sandals or priuses mind you)

I also advocate fighting believe me , but name calling and insulting potential allies on this blog site is not an effective way of doing that .Save the venom for the
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Did you think you were telling me anything I didnt already know? I went to an Aikido studio for a taste but preferred my San Soo Kung Fu. I thought it had a better philosophy of defense. More aggressive. I am not dabbling in the infighting between the Obama and Clinton people. Again this kind of infighting has been seen before. The left thinks for itself. If THAT is your point fine I dont care but you seemed to come in whining about the tone of the posts in a thread about the GOP comparing the Dems to communist North Korea. I was a Kucinich guy. I like Obama better than Hillary basically because he is more liberal but was always going to vote for whoever had the D by their name mostly because the Republicans have gone insane. I have zero venom for Clinton or Obama supporters. What I am saying is when the RIGHTWING comes with their clockwork and constant attacks I AM FIGHTING BACK PERIOD

The truth will set you free.
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How would YOU know you wouldnt recognize the truth if it bit your sack. Keep advising us to take a knife to the ongoing two decade long gunfight I will pass. Nothing about passing on political suicide however stops us from telling the truth. In fact its part of the package.

Mahatma gandhi and martin luther king played hardball too but refrained from lowering themselves to their opponents level . Treason , destruction of the constitution , and warcrimes are pretty hard ball . Insults ,name calling and personal attacks are weak at best.
The democrats best weapon is the words and deeds of republican party , the neo conservatives thirst for war abroad and their wholesale attack on the constitution of the United States at home.
Truth is a powerful weapon .Tell the truth democrats and inform the American public on the state of their democracy under the neo conservatives .

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I watched a DECADE of that advise play itself out when the Limbaughs and Coulters STARTED the flaming. Dems took the high road pointed out the lies and twisting of the facts and didnt fight fire with fire. That didnt work out to well for us. It got us labelled as weak. It got us portrayed as not having principles. So feel free to do what YOU think is best. As far as I am concerned I have seen what happens when you turn the other cheek to a bully, they smack that one too and keep pumelling you till you fight back. Its time to fight back. That doesnt preclude us from pointing out the disaster that the GOP is when they actually try to govern, nor does it stop us from telling the truth but when they lie, when they distort when they attack, hide under your bed if you want. For ME I am fighting back. I tried your way for quite a while and watched wingnuts become emboldened and nastier. The wingnuts dont WANT us fighting back its why they started the meme about the left being haters because they SO preferred when THEY had the exclusive franchise on vitriol. I think the American people overall arent that interested in politics and never really have been. They pick a side and see what they can do then if they dont like it they see what is out there but dont usually get all that enamored of policy. They want to see you CARE that you are willing to fight. Your advise is the rightwings fondest wish, it is a prescription for political suicide. Take the draught if that is what you want but you arent going to convince me to join you on the ash heap

That’s for sure!

People like Rove have managed to turn the word “liberal” into an egregious insult. As I’ve been saying, we need to fight back and in this case perhaps that means our own little campaign to turn the word “republican” into a dirty word. As in, “You’re not a REPUBLICAN are you?!” and say it with a look on your face that says something smells really bad.

I’m tired of liberals being afraid to proudly say that they are liberals. I’m tired of being portrayed as weak. We need a P/R campaign that portrays liberals as the brave ones, the ones willing to consider the world in shades of grey, the ones willing to sacrifice a little if it helps out the guy over there, the ones willing to educate themselves on issues rather than going the easy route with knee-jerk responses. The ones who are willing to do the work it requires to tackle our challenges.