‘I Have A Dream’
By on Aug 28th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
‘I Have A Dream’
Forty-five years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. inspired a nation with these famous words: “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ … I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Watch it:
Forty-five years later, though still incomplete, America has moved gradually towards realizing King’s dream. In Denver tonight, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) will become the first African-American to accept the presidential nomination of a major party.
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What a milestone, but I am hoping for one just a bit bigger.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pmI hope everyone is watching this historical convention tonight. This is amazing.
MLK would be proud today. We’re not there yet, but we can see the way.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pmSomewhere, from that mountain top of which he so eloquently spoke, Martin Luther King, Jr. is smiling. He is proud of us. He is proud of America. And he is proud of you and me.
PEACE
August 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pmProgress is slow in coming.
I am so glad that I am still alive to witness this great event that I have imagined for decades.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pmI am watching on PBS and am encouraged by the size and composition of the audience. The speakers have been excellent. The “battleground state” republicans for Obama were authentic and compelling. The best line was “we need a president who will put Barney Smith before Smith-Barney”.
And Al Gore can and will be an effective force in this campaign. He did just the right thing by walking away from politics after the stolen 2000 election. Now is the time for him to step back in as a statesman.
There is no way that the RNC convention will be able to project anything other than failure, lack of imagination and tired ideology. A week from today, we will truly begin to see Obama as a front-runner and he will build from there through debates and an exceptional campaign organization.
Our long national nightmare is coming to an end.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pm7:01 PST…here we go.
All the doubts about packing 80,000 people into an arena seem pretty dumb right now. You can barely even see the Temple against that press of humanity. Wait till they roar.
I saw Pink Floyd in a similar sized arena. You could feel the wave of psychic energy down on the floor. Even the FOX commentators are being carried away by it.
Mind you, Floyd could do that in 40 cities. Better Laser Show, too.
Enjoy!
August 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pmThis video montage is cheese though…big buzz killer.
Let the Man Speak.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:07 pmtom Says:
Our long national nightmare is coming to an end.
Whoa! Get all Jerry Ford retro, why dontcha?
August 28th, 2008 at 10:09 pmThis is sort of beyond cool to me because I just turned 45 day before yesterday.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pmZzzzzzzz……
Speak, Barack, speak……
August 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pmFirst prop to Hillary…smart.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:15 pmOh…Bill is the case maker of change…also smart.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:16 pmEven the FOX commentators are being carried away by it.
I hope they are carried away to a place from which they will never return. Why are you watching FoxSnooze anyway? Are you a masochist?
August 28th, 2008 at 10:16 pmJohn McCain and George W Bush BEST FRIENDS
August 28th, 2008 at 10:17 pmtom Says:
Even the FOX commentators are being carried away by it.
I hope they are carried away to a place from which they will never return. Why are you watching FoxSnooze anyway? Are you a masochist?
What is more masochistic than listening to Chris Matthews knee thump against the bottom of his desk while his leg is thrilling?
I flip between all three channels. The difference in coverage is hilarious, all of them claiming to be objective. Like we can’t tell who is rooting for who.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pmI flip between all three channels.
That’s why I watch PBS. I would watch CSPAN if I had cable. I want to see the event itself — not listen to someone’s contemporaneous interpretation of it. There will be plenty of time for that after it is over.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:23 pmOkay…starting to hit 3rd gear…watch for the tempo to pick up and the pitch to raise an octave. The crowd will respond in kind and then it will go into overdrive. The guy is a genius.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pmWhoa! Get all Jerry Ford retro, why dontcha?
It was true when Ford said it.
It is even truer today.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pmNope, my bad, downshifting on the family background thing…
August 28th, 2008 at 10:28 pmtom Says:
——————————————————————————–
Whoa! Get all Jerry Ford retro, why dontcha?
It was true when Ford said it.
It is even truer today.
Well, if I had to be stranded on a desert island with either Nixon or Bush it’d be Nixon all the way. Assuming he didn’t kill me and eat me.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:31 pmThe Fundamental belief that I am my Brother’s Keeper???
August 28th, 2008 at 10:32 pmSen. Obama is thee man!
I’m laughing my ass off at mcchimpy struggling to get 10K people for his lying acceptance speech. I wouldn’t go if they paid me.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:33 pmWorkmanlike…I know there is a gearshift here somewhere…
August 28th, 2008 at 10:38 pmWow! He just defeated the Taliban, Russia, Global Warming and Disesase in one paragraph!
Are you all just sitting there with your noses an inch from the screen or what? Honest, guys, it is just a speech.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Are you all just sitting there with your noses an inch from the screen or what? Honest, guys, it is just a speech.
For some of us, Keltoi, the last seven+ years have been a nightmare, with little to celebrate. Maybe you could back off on the cynicism and “realism” for a little bit, just out of courtesy.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:50 pmkeltoi, you are a skeptical little blogging troll, aren’t you?
Get your nose off the screen (or out of McNumbNuts’ arse, if that’s where it is). Step back from your television and perhaps you will recognize that you are not witnessing a speech — you are witnessing what leadership looks like.
I know it has been a long time since any of us have seen it. But that’s what it is.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:50 pmOkay, I am starting to feel like a spammer, and more importantly last nights Daily Show is about to come on in PST.
Two observations:
1. When he first hit the national scene, I actually did think he was different from your run of the mill politician. That gloss has long worn away, for me, anyway.
2. While his ability to draw massive crowds is very impressive, he actually does better in a more “intimate” 10-20K venue. Maybe it is accoustics. Maybe – maybe – it is that he is more used to that venue watching Rev. Wright for 20 years. That is not a slam, just an observation. This speech and the Berlin speech weren’t bad, but they suck compared to his acceptance speech in an in-door forum after finally burying Hillary. Ditto his 2004 speech.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:56 pmgummitch Says:
Maybe you could back off on the cynicism and “realism” for a little bit, just out of courtesy.
Very sorry, I wish I had read that before my last post at 27.
Cynicism is a very reliable companion, though, whatever your party. I suspect there will be a healthy dose of it evident here a week from now.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:00 pmOkay…I am at MSNBC now and Tweety and KO have arranged their own audience to cheer for what they are saying…?
That is a weird take on punditry. Cripes, they even have their own stirring music in the background! WTF?
August 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pmFantastic speech. Don’t know how it could have been better. too bad there is only one McCain paid shill posting here tonight.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pmAwesome,awesome,awesome.
Obama delivers.
I am truly,truly proud again to be an American.
McSame has no snowball chance in hell.
Woot!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pmAwesome.
Buhbye Repugs
Tweety invokes Henry V and Alexander the Great?? You guys have to tune in to MSNBC now, it’s amazing!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:04 pmCount Istvan Says:
Fantastic speech. Don’t know how it could have been better. too bad there is only one McCain paid shill posting here tonight.
Too bad your grasp of punctuation and capitalization is so lame. I am sure your betters, who know me better, will be here soon.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:07 pmHoly $hit. Barack Obama is phenomenal. He made me cry and I can never remember a politician doing that in my entire 60 years!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:08 pmSave your newspapers; this is an historic moment. This is amazing. Obama will be the best president in my lifetime.
I am so glad that I am living to see this day – I will tell my grandchildren — you tell yours.
We must see this man in the White House; he is our last, best hope.
Beautiful man. Beautiful family.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:09 pmWOW! Just WOW! This man, our man, my man, for president, Barack Obama hit it out of the park!
Specificity, details, outlines, plans, judgement. It was all there. But more so, there was sincerity, passion and true love of not only country, but of the people who comprise our country.
Chris Matthews: “I’ve been criticized for saying that this man inspires me. But to hell with those critics, this man inspires me!”
GO OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08!
PEACE
August 28th, 2008 at 11:10 pmKeltoi says: alot of nothing, keeps it from going stir crazy.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:10 pmJust Flag the gooper.
#Keltoi
I don’t think I have ever done this before but will you STFU!
Can’t you give us the freedom to revel in an amazing speech and in our vision of the futre.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:11 pmMarie, I’m with you all the way!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:11 pmSpencers Mom:
August 28th, 2008 at 11:12 pmDitto that
someone here has
been drinking way
too much coffee tonight.
*
or maybe just drinking
too much.
#
i name no names.
:)
thank you.
*
August 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pmNot half as lame as your 47 posts ass boy. McCain really needs to hire better people.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pmTo everyone who has posted here, and all who will come to be together, thank you! This is our night, this is our time!
This ends on November 4th at midnight, so our work is just beginning, but we’re all Americans and we’re all in this together!
And Keltoi, enjoy your moment here alone, when no one else gave a sh_t about your rantings. It was your lone moment to own to thread, but that moment is now over. Move along, lil troll, move along.
PEACE
August 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pmFantastic speech… I’ve never seen that kind of enthusiasm at a political convention!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pmSuperlatives fail… wonderful, epic, grand… I can go to bed optimistic for the first time in a long while…
marie,
best post
of the night.
*
congrats.
!
and i agree with
you too.
^
good luck.
#
August 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pmWoo-hoo!
I have to type because if I try to speak now I will just cry.
This must come to pass – it is the hope we need to get us through the difficult years ahead as we climb out of the hole Bush&Co. has dug for us.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pmSuperior speech. Excellent delivery and forthright. There is hope for this country’s future… and humanity’s.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pmToday we all have a dream. That we can get our country back.
Keltoi, go Cheney yourself d*ckwad.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:16 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
#Keltoi
I don’t think I have ever done this before but will you STFU!
Well Bilbo, they always say you never forget your first. I am just glad it was me. :0
August 28th, 2008 at 11:16 pmmarie,
brace yourself,
he’s going to be
elected.
*
sorry keltoi.
!
would you like a
nice, white,
pointy hat as a
consolation prize?
*
thank you.
#
August 28th, 2008 at 11:20 pmWell, Barack was good tonight.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:21 pmShouldn’t it be:
“In Denver tonight, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) will become the first African-American to be offered the presidential nomination of a major party”?
August 28th, 2008 at 11:21 pmspencers mom Says:
And Keltoi, enjoy your moment here alone, when no one else gave a sh_t about your rantings. It was your lone moment to own to thread, but that moment is now over. Move along, lil troll, move along.
Aw, twarn’t Rantin, Ma, just Observin.
But your are right, I am a troll, so I’ll move along as you ask. I didn’t come to TP during this speech to be a jerk, BTW, I actually thought it would be a comment-fest. I don’t take political speeches too seriously.
So – I am gone. Any invective directed at me will go unanswered, enjoy your group hug, and I mean that sincerely. Really. Enjoy.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:22 pmBarak just served up the BEST PRESIDENTIAL speech ever..
….congratulations…
…gives me hope that a Native American can one day be elected.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:22 pmDr. Grumpus
It was his ACCEPTANCE Speech. Helloooooo?
August 28th, 2008 at 11:22 pmThe only way John McCain could wind this election is with the help of Diebold. And watch out for the dark hands blackened hearts of Dick(head) Cheney and Karl Rove. I firmly believe they will stop at nothing and stoop to new lows to maintain their status quo.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pmAs I look back on this evening and the nights which preceded it, I sense that there may be a real political re-alignment emerging. Obama has shown that he has the capacity to bridge the old labels of conservative and liberal. He shared a resonant and personal philosophy that defies the pigeon-hole that his detractors have tried to put him in.
I was very impressed with tonight’s speech. He was strong, specific, authentic and articulate. The game is now on.
Tomorrow will be McCain’s first opportunity to respond and his VP selection will be very telling. If it is Romney, it will mean he is being pressured from the right-wingers in his party. If it is Lieberman, he will be dead in the water with the party base. If it is Pawlenty, Hutchison or someone else, he will be saddled with having to sell a weak sister.
Tomorrow — and the week(s) ahead — will be very interesting, indeed.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:24 pmMr. Evil @56
August 28th, 2008 at 11:25 pmI agree. I recommend everyone vote absentee. The machines that tally the absentee ballots are not made by Diebold. And there is a paper trail.
Oops, win not “wind.”
August 28th, 2008 at 11:26 pmWe now all have to be vigilant and work as hard as we can to make sure this comes to pass. The campaign is grassroots and it is average people working that have made it happen. If you do nothing else make sure you don’t let “friends” spread lies about him. That’s the least we can do.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pmI think he made a concerted effort to ground his hopeful vision with a tone of pragmatism. His determination and fire were more visceral. He seemed almost defiant; saying in essence, don’t tell me we can’t have hope!
We’ve already seen what happens when we have administrators lacking in a hopeful vision or goals.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:28 pmP.S. @58
August 28th, 2008 at 11:29 pmI also hand deliver my absentee ballot to my polling place and personally put it into the box.
Keltoi at Night Says:
So – I am gone. Any invective directed at me will go unanswered, enjoy your group hug, and I mean that sincerely. Really. Enjoy.
sorry you’re out of answers.
stumped, eh?
*
but…
you’ll be back.
lonely, unloved
trolls always
come back.
*
enjoy your hand.
#
i mean that sincerely. really. enjoy,
it’s the only love you’ll ever know.
:)
*
August 28th, 2008 at 11:29 pmjoe cantwell- thanks for your kind words and encouragement.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:30 pmSo folks, how many people do you think will sit back and say “holy $hit” when George McCain is done with his acceptance speech? Probably none. Most of them will be asleep by then.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:31 pmBilbo @65
August 28th, 2008 at 11:33 pmI think quite a few will be saying Holy$hit How did we nominate this creetin!
Marie Says:
joe cantwell- thanks for your kind words and encouragement.
marie,
the cowards have left,
afraid and alone.
it’s up to us to carry on.
*
carpe diem.
#
thank you.
!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:35 pmAll that rumbling about columns by the right wingnuts seems pretty childish now doesn’t it.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:35 pmI’m listening to the callers on CSPAN, and the negative comments tend to be statements of disbelief he can accomplish anything. I don’t really get it. I guess it’s better to vote for the guy that promises nothing and will deliver nothing?
August 28th, 2008 at 11:37 pmHint: I am Native American.
Proud, long time military family, father Marine, uncle, army & navy, myself Airforce, rest mostly Army, ALL PROUD MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, and super proud tonight to be for Obama.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:37 pmShayne Says:
All that rumbling about columns by the right wingnuts seems pretty childish now doesn’t it.
what columns?
^
we’re keeping our
eyes on the prize.
*
August 28th, 2008 at 11:37 pmAll that rumbling about columns by the right wingnuts seems pretty childish now doesn’t it.
I expect that those same children will be complaining tomorrow about the fact that there was no “balloon drop” or some other equally vapid things.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:39 pmShayne Says:
We now all have to be vigilant and work as hard as we can to make sure this comes to pass. The campaign is grassroots and it is average people working that have made it happen. If you do nothing else make sure you don’t let “friends” spread lies about him. That’s the least we can do.
Shayne, agreed, but I believe that we should do the best we can do to spread the truth about Obama.
We need to take ownership of moving the message forward. We can do this just one person at a time. It is amazing what can happen when we each take the time to talk with our neighbors, co-workers, friends and yes, family! The race has just begun.
PEACE
August 28th, 2008 at 11:41 pmRe. Tom:
August 28th, 2008 at 11:45 pmI don’t know about balloon drops. I’m pretty sure we’ll hear about Al Gore’s weight.
I’m listening to the callers on CSPAN, and the negative comments tend to be statements of disbelief he can accomplish anything. I don’t really get it. I guess it’s better to vote for the guy that promises nothing and will deliver nothing?
That is the major risk here. It is the tyranny of low expectations. We have tolerated mediocrity for far too long. It is time for a . . . CHANGE.
As a nation, we need to rediscover the optimism, dedication and focus that put a man on the moon, eradicated polio, ended slavery and so many things over the long and amazing history of our country.
We have idiots like Limpballs flapping their jaws about “American exceptionalism” as their way of defending the status quo. Their time is past. We must take American exceptionalism and use it as the means to re-awaken, recover and restore our great country.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:46 pmOutstand speach. Humble, yet confrontational. Bush has taken America’s “Moral Authority” our “Last best hope for Freedom” and trashed it. Now is the time for “We the People” to take our country back.
With President Obama, America will once again become the nation we deserve to be.
“The highest patriotism is not the blind acceptance of official policy, but a love of one’s country deep enough to call her to a higher standard” – George McGovern
August 28th, 2008 at 11:46 pmtbone Says:
I guess it’s better to vote for the guy that promises nothing and will deliver nothing?
____________
One small correction, if I may, tbone… didn’t you really mean to say: “the guy that promises nothing and will deliver EVEN LESS”???
August 28th, 2008 at 11:47 pmObama’s speech captured the passion and wisdom of Dr. King’s oration.
It is TIME.
We can recover from the eight years of hellatious rule.
We must seize the day, and get Obama into office, so our vision can be fulfilled.
I was struck by how his vision of where we need to go is so closely aligned with mine.
Now it’s time to make it happen.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:47 pmI guess the Reichwinger Anti-christian values guys prayers went unanswered tonight – NO RAIN – sorry your time is up.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:49 pmAlso, the trolls with multiple versions are gone, IP address ban, I guess, so I assume that only intelligent trolls can post here now…..sweeeeeet….no more RNC spam trolls.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:52 pmTom.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pmI think you are absolutely right, and I believe the “inexperience” charge against Obama is essentially a statement of “fear of change”. Many Americans are complacent and don’t want somebody to come in and rock the boat – even if things could be better.
spencers mom, I’ve already volunteered as has my young daughter and we worked in Springfield, IL, last Saturday when he introduced Joe Biden. No we are organizing trips to Wisconsin to canvass for votes. It’s not a lot but it’s something.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pmOH MY GAUD…Pat Buchanan is praising Obama…have I died…let me check my pulse….no….I am dead.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pmKemdiller clearly has wax in his ears to the point where his balance and perception are impaired.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:57 pmTROS
August 28th, 2008 at 11:57 pmMuch better.
Wait…I am still breathing….he really did that…MSNBC…Pat Buchanan praising Obama, ok, what’s going on, is black white, are cats and dogs living together?
I am con-ver-used.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:59 pmI read in a book by Bill Moyers where he interviewed scholars many years ago that pessimists are the most dangerous people to our country. Those that believe nothing is ever good, nothing can get better refuse to see that a better world is within our grasp. Those are the people who will vote for McCain.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:59 pmdemkiller, I’m taking your name as a perceived threat.
FLAGGED.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:00 amBuckie Boy, I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. And if anybody is an old dog, it’s Pat Buchanan.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:01 amtbone Says:
Many Americans are complacent and don’t want somebody to come in and rock the boat – even if things could be better.
Even if that boat is sinking, there are way too many Americans in this day and age who will vote against their best interests in order to stay true to their party and what they think it represents.
Trite as it sounds, it is our job to find these folks and talk to them. And then go back and talk and talk and talk. We can win over these folks, one at a time.
Geez, I am way too old for pom-poms!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:05 amtbone Says:
TROS
Much better.
_________
Yer welcome…
August 29th, 2008 at 12:07 amCan I just add that the bar has been set very high for McStain? Way too high for him to reach…
But, remember, he was a POW dontchaknow.
Funny, he paints himself as a “fighter pilot” but in truth he was a naval pilot who dropped bombs. Crashed yet another plane in enemy territory, and was captured. Had he done that here in America, today, he’d be an “enemy combatant” and would have either been renditioned or sent to Gitmo. Torture? He didn’t have the creativity of our government to find new ways to torture him back in ‘Nam.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:10 amspencers mom
Funny, he paints himself as a “fighter pilot”
His fellow POW’s painted him as “Songbird” McCain.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 amBeing a special effects artist and compositor I have to say that they made keying him near impossible, (near, I could do, but would take too much time to do) this was a brilliant move by the designer to stop the McCain Bluescreen or was it Greenscreen of McSames speach.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:19 am“demkiller Says:
Obama clearly doesn’t offer any political change, let alone racial, sorry….”
David Brooks, is that you?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 amShayne Says:
spencers mom, I’ve already volunteered as has my young daughter and we worked in Springfield, IL, last Saturday when he introduced Joe Biden. No we are organizing trips to Wisconsin to canvass for votes. It’s not a lot but it’s something.
Shayne, we’re doing the same thing here in Pennsylvania. My poor kid (who by the way is named Spencer!) has been dragged out in political campaign after political campaign since he was born, but I feel it to be a moral obligation to make our community, our state and ultimately, our nation, a better place to live.
And I was raised in a Republican home, and my brothers remain ‘Pugs.
One person at a time… one person.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 amdemkiller:
August 29th, 2008 at 12:26 amCan we explore this idea a bit? Simply saying something is true doesn’t make it so except in the mind of the speaker. If you wish others to be persuaded you have to offer some evidences of your “truths”
spencers mom, my daughter wants to go into public service so while always interested I’ve gotten more involved because of her. Spencer should be proud!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:33 amThat seems more of an opinion and less of a tangible evidence. Understand that I am not here to defend or not defend Mr Obama but instead to encourage critical thought.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 amShayne, good for your daughter! And good for you for raising a child who is interseted in public service!
In his defense, Spence is only 8, so he still has some time to figure out his place in life. In the meantime, he’s stuck campaigning with me!
When he was a toddler, if I asked him if he was a Republican, he’d answer “no, I’m an American.” No matter how many times I tried to correct him, he stood firm. All I could do was laugh, but it was great when we met President Clinton at a campaign event!
Good for your daughter again!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:44 amDbadass@101
August 29th, 2008 at 12:46 amCome on now D, trying to encourage critical thinking from a GOOPER.
Surely you jest!
I’m hearing that McStain’s campaign was so unnerved by this convention and, most importantly, this speech by Obama, that they may try to use the “hurricane” excuse, and postpone their convention. McLame? You bet!
If you believe in God, Allah, the Flying Spagetti Monster or whatever, please pray for GOOD WEATHER!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:50 amPlease, please, Flying Spaghetti Monster — I’ve never asked for anything before — please let there be fabulous toe-tapping weather in Minneapolis next week!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:55 amI watched most of the convention tonight including all of Obama’s acceptance speech. While I have certain reservations about Obama, or any Democrat for that matter, bringing about any real change, for a variety of reasons, Obama’s speech was excellent, I have no doubt that Obama truly knows what ails this country.
Recapturing America will be a long hard job requiring everyone’s help, no one person can do it alone, but at least we’re finally having the right conversation. I don’t agree with all of Obama’s ideas, particularly on healthcare, he’s a truly inspirational leader and we sorely need that right now.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 29th, 2008 at 1:00 amNo McCain is your man for change, right?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:05 am“with all the issues he’s shifted, do you think he’s still for “change”…”
I love this sentence for a variety of reasons. I commend the efoort but won’t take the bait. The use of shifted and change is magical
August 29th, 2008 at 1:09 amMcCain lies about “Russian aggression.”
August 29th, 2008 at 1:10 amObama lies about “Russian aggression.”
Dumbkiller Says:
atleast you knew who he was 6 months ago….
Just because you did not know who Obama was back then does not mean most other people did not.
Go play on a freeway Troll
August 29th, 2008 at 1:16 amWow. What a lame troll.
TP! We want better trolls!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:17 amYeah, 6 months ago he was a philanderer that dumped his first wife for Cindy’s money and who graduated from the bottom of his class at the naval academy. He’s still that dumb gigolo but his positions have flip flopped all over the place. He used to pretend to be a maverick but that was just to get away with his dirty deeds as one of the Keating 5. I’m from Chicago so I’ve known who Obama was for a long time. What I do know is that even the people of Arizona don’t like McCain and the only way he won and kept any offices is by using Cindy’s father’s criminal money to buy his elections. Is that what you mean?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:17 amBut I know what you are demkiller, a dittohead who puts party before country anti-American typical GOP selfish b@stard who only cares about what’s in it for you. Just like McCain and Bush. More of the same cr@p that has been destroying this country since that senile old coot, the most overrated president in history, Ronald Reagan took office. You must be just as dumb or senile as your heroes.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:19 amI do hope that Obama gets elected, but, he could stand to turn down the “celeberty” factor a little. I want him to stand on his merits, not the hype. Given that McDonald has opposed many of Bush’s policies, Obama is going to need to prove his foresight with his past actions. I think he’ll get to the endzone – but he is going to have to get serious.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 amYeah, play on the freeway troll but don’t hurt any nice cars, you’re not worth it.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 amYeah Traps, your concern is underwhelming.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:21 amShayne,
You need to keep it down to simple sentences for this Troll.
Anything past one and it gets confused… I mean more confused.
But, nicely kachinged.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:21 amTraps is telling the guy who graduated first in his Harvard law class to get serious. Unfreakingbelievable.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:22 amdemkiller, YES, no STFU.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:23 amTraps Says:
Given that McDonald has opposed many of Bush’s policies
Um, Trap please come back to reallity. I think you mean McSame has approved of MANY of BushCos policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:23 amoh! what a night!
i had to watch it twice… thank gods for cspan – why didn’t i do that earlier in the week, to avoid the talking heads!
i’m more hopeful and positive than ever…
here we go, people!
OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:27 amYo DUMBKILLER, I think your the idiot here. Quit getting your talking points from Fuax. Figure out what nuance is, and especially, if your going to accuse someone of changing positions, look no further than your Senile candidate.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:28 amKaty,
August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 amAgreed! I recorded it.
For Dumba$$Killer edification:
And just because it is worth reposting
Try to keep up with the Double Talk Express:
* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
* McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
* McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
Thanks to one of the TP Regulars for this.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:39 amOkay, scouts and campers, I’ve had too many blogasms tonight and am too weak to keep going!
Best to all here, even the braindead trolls!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 amhave you SEEN the GOPER podium? no wonder they’re trying to mock any columns… wouldn’t want anyone to be reminded of this:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_VzB9bpoXWHA/R549p5_wI8I/AAAAAAAAAQ8/dloU68DHLkw/s1600-h/2008_01270014.JPG
or this:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_kGGN5irg43Y/SExp_7PM_fI/AAAAAAAAAR8/dB3lVsQDjxE/18+Walkway+to+Oval+Office+1.JPG
August 29th, 2008 at 1:55 amDuring the repugs convention we should play the drinking game.
Drink a shot every time mcchimpy says “my friends.”
August 29th, 2008 at 1:55 amcheck it out – it’s about “intimacy”:
What They’re Saying About the Podium Design for the 2008 Republican National Convention
Media Note Republican’s Commitment to Keeping Focus on Substance, Not Setting
August 29th, 2008 at 2:03 amhttp://portal.gopconvention2008.com/pressrelease/details.aspx?id=16
Traps Says:
I do hope that Obama gets elected, but, he could stand to turn down the “celeberty” factor a little. I want him to stand on his merits, not the hype. Given that McDonald has opposed many of Bush’s policies, Obama is going to need to prove his foresight with his past actions. I think he’ll get to the endzone – but he is going to have to get serious.
Aaaahh shut up. Sen. Obama is popular because of his beliefs. What do you propose? People should stay home because it makes the repugs look like the shit they are?
Go vote for mcchimpy. Better yet, go to his sorry convention.
Go Obama\Biden 08
August 29th, 2008 at 2:06 amTo start with – what is up with the hostility in this forum? I don’t get why folks can’t have a discussion w/o being insulted.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:39 amAnywho. Aside from the color of his skin, this was a classic Democratic speech; Hopeful, idealistic and embracing. What I got is that the government is not going to spend $ on the war(s), but on other welfare style programs. With this spending how are my taxes going to go down?
I am going to vote for Barack Obama, but in the end he strikes me as another politician running for office
I finally got to watch Obama’s speech ( thanks MSNBC for rerunning it ).
That was a speech that spoke my feelings. And he hit back on every McCain attack.
It’s the best he has done. I was in tears and I am not someone that tears up easily.
He is not going to be a Gore or Kerry candidate. He is hitting back with fact and intelligence.
Something that has been direly missing from the White House the last 8 years. Someone that can speak a complete coherent sentence.
Rough quote: “John McCain said he will follow Bin Lauden to the gates of hell. He won’t even go get him in the cave where he lives.”
That was a political punch right back, and right on the nose.
Cripes, still watching MSNBC, even Pat Buchanan liked the speech. That’s kinda creepy to have ol’ Pat agreeing with me. heh
August 29th, 2008 at 2:50 amTraps Says:
With this spending how are my taxes going to go down?
Why not go read his tax plan on his site? Then you won’t sound so much like a Republican troll ( and ignorant like a low information voter). Maybe you can pose intelligent, informed questions that don’t make you sound like a troll after that.
That may lead to less hostility from posters who have put up with such unintelligent trolls since this board was first set up.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:03 amHave to stop whining too.
Following the advise of Wayne I read the tax plan of Obama. theoretically this plan would be great. Seeing how his voting record hasn’t resulted in any new programs, its obvious that the programs are not going to be accepted by the rest of the government. One man cannot impose his ideals over all branches of the government. Therefore what is his next step? Again I am an Obama supporter, but I want him to work within an F’ed Up system to achieve results that benefit all.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:23 amI want the man to be President. But I also want him to be able to function within a very broken system. The rhetoric of change can only go so far. The wheels of the machine are in place. His ability to grease them make me nervous.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:39 amBy the way, Wayne’s assumption of my “unintelligence” only shows his/her own lack of insight. I am not the smartest, but I am smarter than most. Fool.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:45 amWe are everywhere. The dream is not to be denied .You are a lucky man Barack Obama . Stay true to yourself and walk around the bend with me . I’ve been waiting for you , as have all good men and women everywhere since our prehistory who have had love in their hearts.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:40 amLove is the only reason .Not gold.Not power , Not status .Not things , only love brings peace. We are only here for a moment(?)but love remains forever .
It’s time we all came home .
The “I have a dream” speech is one of the most inspirational speeches I, or anyone, has ever heard. In fact, when someone makes it available on TV or radio, I stop whatever I am doing and watch/listen to its completion.
However, the speech that is most relevant at this juncture in the campaign is Jimmy Carter’s 2004 convention speech. Carter hit Bush hard in that speech, but more importantly Carter, in retrospect, was 100% correct. McCain is a Bush follow-on; airing Carter’s speech would be significant for this campaign.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:46 amTraps Says:
Following the advise of Wayne I read the tax plan of Obama. theoretically this plan would be great. Seeing how his voting record hasn’t resulted in any new programs, its obvious that the programs are not going to be accepted by the rest of the government.
Oh, really? A freshman Senator? I think you’re being willfully niave.
One man cannot impose his ideals over all branches of the government. Therefore what is his next step? Again I am an Obama supporter, but I want him to work within an F’ed Up system to achieve results that benefit all.
Um, didn’t George Bush impose his ideals over all branches of government, for eight years?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:38 amI couldn’t sleep last night. What a night.
Traps, you brought old talking points and nothing but negative speculation and you want to be taken seriously? Please.
So far you failed to offer anything in the way of discussion. You obviously did not listen to the speach for it’s content, only for ways to find fault with it.
The racial remark is a dead givaway of your agenda. Why would you explect people to be nice to you?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:52 amMy kids and I sat and watched Obama’s incredible, historic speech last night. I wanted them to know that this was an event that they would remember many years from now, long after this was over. We still have far to go, and I hope that this will not be the end of this historic election process…ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!
August 29th, 2008 at 8:57 amDid you all see the interview where McCain called Obama’s children “little brats?” Check out Huffington Post. They will stop at nothing. My jaw actually dropped when I read that. Slime.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:04 amThis was the speech of our era from the new man of our era.
No exaggeration — this was an airtight speech in front of a electrifying huge crowd. I had no doubts the republicans would be cornered tonight after their petty smear campaign, which will no doubt continue, albeit with reduced interest.
The introductory montage was actually what put tears in my eyes. Selfless service and treating others how you’d like to be treated. Empathy. Honesty. The video itself did a phenomenal job engraving Barack Obama into our hearts as a personable man.
The speech itself demanded my attention for the 45 minutes because his words are now our generational moment. Barack Obama created more than presidential history. He created a new purpose the young and the young-at-heart. He set the example the day he left Harvard by passing up Wall Street and going to work for distressed folks in Chicago.
I will never measure to Barack Obama, but I can heed his ideals and practice them as an individual citizen as vigorously as I can. He would expect no less.
I have no doubt that he will root out this Washington culture, and h has convinced me that it will take only a few changes to watch special interests dominoes fall.
Yes, we can ride to victory.
Obama/Biden 2008
August 29th, 2008 at 9:15 amTraps Says:
I do hope that Obama gets elected, but, he could stand to turn down the “celebrety” factor a little.
As opposed to McCain’s maverick “celebrity” (correct spelling) who the media can’t seem to kiss enough of his ass?
The rhetoric of change can only go so far.
You mean like Bush’s promise to bring integrity to the Whitehouse?
Funny stuff Traps. Your concern rings hollow.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:42 am______
spencers mom Says:
Can I just add that the bar has been set very high for McStain? Way too high for him to reach…
But, remember, he was a POW dontchaknow.
Funny, he paints himself as a “fighter pilot” but in truth he was a naval pilot who dropped bombs. Crashed yet another plane in enemy territory, and was captured. Had he done that here in America, today, he’d be an “enemy combatant” and would have either been renditioned or sent to Gitmo. Torture? He didn’t have the creativity of our government to find new ways to torture him back in ‘Nam.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 12:10 am
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You know, it’s possible to support Obama and oppose McCain on his policies without disparaging his military service. Do you minimize the service and/or suffering of current members of the military? Would you make the above statement about anyone currently serving in the military, including naval pilots? Do you discount those who are being diagnosed with PTSD? Since you seem to think the torture endured by McCain wasn’t such a big deal, would it be ok if our current troops were treated the same way if captured in Iraq?
I’m voting for Obama, even though I disagree with some of his policies, because I think he will be a better president. Not only do I disagree with McCain on a number of issues, I believe what I’ve read about him having a bad temper and I don’t like the fact that he would, even jokingly, call a student a jerk. Whatever his short comings as a man and a politician, you can’t deny the fact that he served and suffered terribly in that service. If you belittle him for it, your claims to support others in the same situation don’t ring true. Obama can win without his supporters taking the low road.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:58 am______
McWars Says:
This was the speech of our era from the new man of our era.
I have no doubt that he will root out this Washington culture, and h has convinced me that it will take only a few changes to watch special interests dominoes fall.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am
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I don’t think it will be nearly that easy, but hopefully his enthusiasm and the pervasive desire for change will allow him to make progress in that area. The amount of money in question and the number of groups seeking influence guarantee there will always be tremendous efforts to get to politicians.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:09 amStill amazing, forty-five years later. MP3 highlights are up here.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:43 am