Palin has never been to Iraq.
Palin has never been to Iraq.
“Speaking with evident condescension” earlier this year, John McCain assaulted Barack Obama for having visited Iraq only once. (Obama subsequently visited Iraq for a second time recently.) “Sen. Obama has been to Iraq once,” he said, “my friends, this is about leadership and learning.” Over on the Wonk Room, Matt Duss notes that McCain’s VP pick Sarah Palin has apparently never visited Iraq, though she does have a son who will deploy there next month. “McCain has shortchanged the issue which he himself insists is the most important — national security,” Duss writes.
UPDATE: Palin did visit troops in Kuwait in 2007. She didn’t disclose at the time whether she was also traveling north to Iraq.
UPDATE II: “I’m not here to judge the idea of withdrawing, or the timeline,” Palin said in a teleconference interview with reporters from Kuwait in 2007. “I’m not going to judge even the surge.”
UPDATE III: In an interview with Charlie Rose on October 12, 2007, Palin said “national security issues” will determine the election.
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And, she is a Creationist. Scary.
http://scienceblogs.com/afarensis/2006/10/27/intelligent_design_and_the_ala/
August 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pmWhat do you bet she’ll go there before the Republican convention is over?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:08 pmBUT..BUT SHE’S STILL THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THE GOP LIBS
– Troll Kerry
August 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pmShort and sweet:
August 29th, 2008 at 1:10 pmSarah Palin knows as much about foreign policy as John McCain knows about Sarah Palin…and that’s NOTHING!
One thing that we can all bet on is the debate formats will prove to be much like ABC debate during the Democratic primary. The media has shown their indifference to the truth and facts over the course of the last 5 weeks. Nothing McCain can do, no expression of his lack of understanding of basic facts, no analysis of his party’s platform and agenda will keep the MSM from “Staying the Course!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pmI’d love it if somebody could get a hold of McCain right now and ask him about Palin. My bet is he never even heard of her before Karl Rove told him that she will be his VP pick this morning.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pmThis really is a bizarre pick. The “too inexperienced” argument was the best one the GOP had in its quill, and now it’s gone.
Two words: Harriet Miers.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pmYes, I am a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pmIs this the best they could do?
Something is rotten in Dennmark and I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Oh, I forgot, John played a lot solitaire to pass the time when he was a POW.
Has she been to Czechoslovakia, though?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmThe selection of Palin must mean that the GOP has thrown in the towel and will greet the Dems as liberators.
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Palin is to McCain as Miers was to Bush.
Ann Coulter should be all over this one! You go girl!
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For you techies
Palin Miers
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McCain Bush
Bush + McCain = Idiot squared
McCain = police state
McCain = the man who no longer wishes to be king.
What a complete jackass; but I’m glad for him and us. He really is not the person for the job.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmHah, Faiz is getting desperate, frantically grasping at straws. Its a great day for women, great day for conservatives. You guys are clearly scared, and you should be. Its all but over for Obama’s extremist radical campaign.
McCain/Palin is going to wipe the floor with lightweight obama and boring Biden.
Maverick John McCain: Change you really CAN believe in.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pmDoes it mean Bush/Cheney aren’t leaving?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pmHmm. Great choice for ‘us’ – lousy choice for ‘them.’
Governor Palin has either exercised poor judgement in encouraging an executive on her staff, or having selected such an executive who would recklessly act without her knowledge but on her behalf, to order the firing of her sisters former husband, an Alaska State Trooper. This move was personal and retaliatory in nature, and conducted outside the bounds of the administrative rules and statutes which govern such procedures in the State of Alaska.
The result? When the head of the organization refused to do so, he was sacked. It doesn’t really matter if Governor Palin knew of or directed this circumvention: she is responsible either way. It demonstrates either her lack of character in directing such an effort, or her inability to hire competent staff. Either way, she ends up on the losing end of the deal.
And, there is some evidence that she ‘knew nothing’ of this situation in the same manner that then Governor Spitzer, a Democrat, ‘knew nothing’ of the efforts conducted by his ‘renegade’ staff to discredit Speaker Bruno. Right…
August 29th, 2008 at 1:19 pmHas Palin ever been to Russia, Alaska’s neigbor, the one she “knows” things about?
Has Palin ever met a Russian delegation in Alaska?
Googling Palin meets Russian – 0 results
August 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmGoogling Palin traveled to Russia – 0 results.
You know what’s lightweight, TripleKick? A veep candidate’s response to being investigated for corruption: “It’s cool.”
Thing is, that is the height of the GOP’s brainpower.
Triplekick has a hard on for this candidate, that’s all his simplistic mind can muster.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmGood God trippledicker, I am beginning to think that you are really a liberal posing as a conservative and purposefully being flat out ignorant for our amusement.
Yea, we’re really scared of a not even full term governor, mayor of a 9,000 person town, with ties to big oil, from a state with – hold your breath – 3 ELECTORAL VOTES!
BWAAHAAHAAA
You know, it won’t be long before we as a nation evolve, take our place in the 21st century, and let neanderthals like yourself be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Obama’s “extremist, radical campaign” as you so eloquently said (copied and pasted straight from the Drudge Report I’m sure), represents the will of the majority of Americans. Americans overwhelmingly support democratic positions of health care, ending the war, taxes, you name it.
Your party is in it’s death throes, and morons like you, you know, the ignorant low info type, are just going to have to sit back in your rusted out double wide, crack open your PBR, tune into to RAW Wrastlin’, and let REAL AMERICANS fix the problems you peolple have caused.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pmFrom the blog you linked “”I won’t have religion as a litmus test, or anybody’s personal opinion on evolution or creationism,” Palin said.” and “She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum.”
Yes, let’s not allow any discussion.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pmEver so slightly O/T: Back in the days of yore, about thirty-some years ago, there was a satirical theater group in Berkeley, CA that was called, “Ladies against Women.” Back then, the feminist movement in the U. S. was blossoming and there was a lot of right-wing feedback, especially from anti-equal rights amendment ladies. It sounds like Ms. Palin would fit right in…
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pmHow can any woman in her right mind want a bunch of old white male busy-bodies, who are anti-sex and anti-woman, to tell them what to do with their bodies?
Apologies in advance.
McCain is really Palin’ in comparison to Obama, who can now just be Biden his time until November.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pmSure Triplehick, Hillary fans are going to let this updo hick who is anti choice and a creationist steal Hillary’s right to be first woman president which she could still do in 8 years. Delusional and stupid.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pmCheck out the news reports! “Change and reform” is the new talking point for the repugnican party following McBraindead’s pick of Palin as a (running) mate. They’ve all been programmed to use it in interviews. It’s comical.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pmI’m sure she clinched her nomination with McHotpants when she showed him her skills as a flute player.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pmBut she is Dan Quayle in drag and can dribble a basketball, that’s enough experience…right? Right?
If by some means McSh!tstain steals his way into the WH, that’s it, moving to another sane country…
…how’s New Zealand? Any body ever been there?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
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Hah, Faiz is getting desperate, frantically grasping at straws. Its a great day for women, great day for conservatives. You guys are clearly scared, and you should be. Its all but over for Obama’s extremist radical campaign.
McCain/Palin is going to wipe the floor with lightweight obama and boring Biden.
Maverick John McCain: Change you really CAN believe in.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Speaking of “grasping at straws” :
The overwhelming majority of Americans , especially WOMEN , are PRO-CHOICE , TribbleDick ; Palin is anti-abortion.
And you consider McViagra/Milf a “heavyweight” team ?
Of what ? Stupidity ? Ignorance ?
Biden is going to expose the neophyte Creationist dope , currently under federal investigation , as the backwards-ass rube she (and you) are.
BTW
If Biden is “boring” , what the hell is McDepends ? Comatose ?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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Boy this site is desperate. The parking ticket lady in my local home town has more foreign experience than Obama!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
That just means the average American paperboy has more foreign policy experience than Palin …….
August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmDid you see Johnny Boy’s confused expression while she screeched her speech? He looked like he was just trying to remember her name before he had to say something.
Joe Biden must be salivating over this choice. With his vast foreign policy experience and her intimate knowledge of how the earth was created 10,000 years ago.
This will be a fun 66 days, indeed!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
Hah, Faiz is getting desperate, frantically grasping at straws.
You’ve heard the term “grasping at straws” from us, but have no idea to use it. Go back to the Biden VP thread, look at the responses to your posts, and that would be how one applies the term.
Its a great day for women,
What women? The one wearing their Obama pins? Too late. You’re still stuck with the women in fundamentalist groups.
great day for conservatives.
With most polls on the major issues not in your favor, it’s an odd time for a “great day.” America hates you. Your convention won’t draw a quarter of our crowd. In fact, tickets are still available.
You guys are clearly scared, and you should be. Its all but over for Obama’s extremist radical campaign.
Accuracy is not fear. Post some evidence that Palin is a viable candidate. Any expertise? Any debating skills? How on Earth could she take Joe Biden?
McCain/Palin is going to wipe the floor with lightweight obama and boring Biden.
POW Card/Corruption Investigation 08!
Maverick John McCain: Change you really CAN believe in.
10% of the time. 90% he’s voting with Bush.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmMCMetal Says:
If Biden is “boring” , what the hell is McDepends ? Comatose ?
McCain is the Doom & Gloom candidate.
I heard this morning that they tone of the repug convention will be more “serious” than the democratic one. Gee, I can’t wait.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Boy this site is desperate. The parking ticket lady in my local home town has more foreign experience than McShitstain and Quayle in Drag.
You are such an idiot.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pmYou know, you could fit ALL of the people that live in the town this bimbo was mayor of into the ONE stadium that Barack Obama FILLED: NINE TIMES!
LOL. She is the ultimate lightweight.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pmDaleW Says:
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And, she is a Creationist. Scary.
http://scienceblogs.com/ afarensis/ 2006/ 10/ 27/ intelligent_design_and_the_ala/
From the blog you linked “”I won’t have religion as a litmus test, or anybody’s personal opinion on evolution or creationism,” Palin said.” and “She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum.”
Yes, let’s not allow any discussion.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
What do you want to discuss ?
A theory based upon a culmination of scientific fact against mere stories passed down for generations ?
Yeah , there’s a lot of validity/credibility there……..
August 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pmOverwhelming? This says 54% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 44% believe it should be illegal in all or most. Given a margin-of-error of +-3, that doesn’t sound ‘overwhelming’.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pmShe’s never been to Iraq? Are you kidding? She’s never been to NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc. etc. etc.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pmDaleW Says:
Yes, let’s not allow any discussion.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
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There’s nothing to discuss. In the context of a science class, evolution is solid fact based on extensive evidence. Creationism/intelligent design is ignorance.
If people want to teach creation myths in a religion or philosophy class, fine. But it doesn’t belong in a science class. Period.
There is no debate.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pmmary Says:
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MCMetal Says:
If Biden is “boring” , what the hell is McDepends ? Comatose ?
McCain is the Doom & Gloom candidate.
I heard this morning that they tone of the repug convention will be more “serious” than the democratic one. Gee, I can’t wait.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
McDepends is as exciting as picking lint out of one’s belly button………
August 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pmMCMetal Says:
Obama is at the top of your ticket. Maybe if you switch around the democrap ticket you would have a valid argument.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pmJust wait until the scantily clad or nude pics. show up.
This should be fun.
¶ AIO
August 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pmACME_Democrat Says:
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
The GOP has expertise in two areas: Hubris and bad personnel decisions.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pmbelac Says:
Apologies in advance.
McCain is really Palin’ in comparison to Obama, who can now just be Biden his time until November.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Well, since you apologized in advance, I won’t kick you in the nuts for that one. :) (It was a groaner!)
August 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pmShayne Says:
She’s never been to Iraq? Are you kidding? She’s never been to NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc. etc. etc.
But, but, …. She went to college in Idaho and she slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
Hah, Faiz is getting desperate, frantically grasping at straws. Its a great day for women, great day for conservatives. You guys are clearly scared, and you should be. Its all but over for Obama’s extremist radical campaign.
I am so looking forward to wiping the floor with you and your ilk after the election. Your fear and envy are showing and it’s not pretty. But, since you have nothing, what else can you do but spout fact less rhetoric.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmRep. Rahm Emanuel, the 4th ranking House Democrat, said in a statement the choice of Palin “shows political panic.”
“Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin’s lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn’t show judgment: it shows political panic,” he said.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmPoor Shaynerd,
Palin is a working mother of 5 children. The Hillary supporters are mothers too and they are going to LOVE Sarah Palin’s story. Especially after the way the media and team obama treated Hillary so badly. This spells doom for Team Obama, you know it. Obama/Biden campaign of fake change is so yesterday. People see that Obama’s “change” just means more liberalism, more socialism, and they really don’t like what they’re learning Obama’s past associations with Ayers, Wright, Rezcko, Flager, et al.
Hilarious how McCain’s VP pick even has more experience than B.Obama. Bring on November.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmIn May 2008. Palin’s Chief of Staff, Mike Tibbles, resigned to “spend more time with his family.”
Tibbles declined interviews about his decision to resign.
After a very brief period of “spending time with his family,” Tibbles signed on to be the campaign manager for indicted Senator Ted Stevens.
Is there more to Tibbles’ departure?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pmupside99 Says:
But, but, …. She went to college in Idaho and she slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
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In Idaho? Wow…
I wonder if her acceptance speech will be a three-minute dance routine while wearing a “Vote For Pedro” t-shirt…
August 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pmDaleW
Dale, uh, did you hear all of those average affected Americans speak at the convention last night? Let me clue you in: they weren’t speaking at all about wedge issues.
You’re well-educated in the field of serfdom. Nobody gives a shit about wedge issues; they don’t decide elections anymore.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pmLOL, all these right wingers pretending to be excited about McBush’s obviously disappointing (for them) pick for VP.
Too funny. It’s like watching little kids try to lie about something. They think everyone is as gullible and naive as they are! HILARIOUS!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pmTrippledicky, Acme Dem, Dale, I have a question for you people.
Do you really want another 4 years of the Bu$h years? Can you tell me exactly what it is about Obama that you don’t like, beyond the fact he’s black?
I mean seriously. Please, PLEASE explain to me what kind of government you want.
What is YOUR vision for America?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:40 pmWho wants to bet that all the Repug trolls had to go Google Palin to even know where Alaska is and who she was? They didn’t even have time to get out any talking points to McDepends, let alone to the trollies.
Heh Heh
August 29th, 2008 at 1:41 pmDaleW Says:
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The overwhelming majority of Americans , especially WOMEN , are PRO-CHOICE
Overwhelming? This says 54% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 44% believe it should be illegal in all or most. Given a margin-of-error of +-3, that doesn’t sound ‘overwhelming’.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Scroll down the page to the next poll , GOP tool ; the Time poll claims what , a 77% pro-choice “overhwelming” vote ?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:41 pmSarah Palin is John McCain’s Harriet Miers.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pmTheir vision is be at war with the world, advance the agenda poor, picked on white male, and continue to destroy the middle class.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pmBoy, you are desperate. Why else would this loser be picked as mcsnuffles vp candidate?
The dogcatcher in my neighborhood who kills dogs no one will take has more compassion than mccain.
mccain has 0 forign policy experience unless you wish to count that which he misunderstands. He is truly clueless.
Leave it to the intelligent for a change wilycoyote……quit shooting yourself in the foot.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pmAlso, how can you take seriously a candidate who shares a name with one of the members of Monty Python?
Actually, I take that back. Cleese/Idle would be a pretty awesome ticket.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pmWas choosing S.P. just to get Senator Clinton’s votes? Jeesh.
McGeezer is old and feeble one step from the grave and to choose this airhead who is one literally one heartbeat away from the presidency:
did Cheney shoot McSenile in the foot?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pmI wonder when McGeezer will rescind his choice? This (pacemaker) em, clock is ticking…
August 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pmDaleW Says:
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The overwhelming majority of Americans , especially WOMEN , are PRO-CHOICE
– - Overwhelming? This says 54% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases
– - Uh huh. And George Bush got 52% of the vote in 2004 and declared he had a mandate. Pfffffffft.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pmTripleKick 15
And E.D. Hill can put her ankles behind her head and crank out eight children. Does she have a better life story than Palin by virtue of having more kids, according to your logic? Of course not, she’s only good for inventing a “terrorist fist bump.” And she writes crappy books. And she’s on faux blowing hot air.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pmThat’s only because they don’t have colleges where she grew up.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmThis does portend a sense of panic, doom and desperation on the part of the Republican party. Seriously.
What have they got left at this point? Rigging electronic voting machine ‘results?’
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmIf and I say if because I don’t believe it, if what you say is true then why didn’t the gop overturn it when they had full control of the white house and congress. Looks like they are not doing the will of thier constituants to me.
You can count on it. Roe vs Wade will never be overturned and the crippleing that has occurred in the last few years will be reversed….ha.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Obama is at the top of your ticket. Maybe if you switch around the democrap ticket you would have a valid argument.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Maybe if you switched the laughable Republicant ticket , you could attract 80 thousand plus to an event , if McDepends offered Palin to enter in Cindy’s place for the Miss Buffalo Chip contest ………..And passed out free pitchers of beer…..
BTW
With all of McStupid’s “experience” , how come he’s never written a landmark piece of legislation in over a quarter of a century in Congress , picking up a paycheck ?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmand to top it off. to pick someone under investigation. McGeezer must have made this choice at this “3AM” presidential desicion over an Ensure.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
Poor Shaynerd,
August 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
Hilarious how McCain’s VP pick even has more experience than B.Obama. Bring on November.
Ok, I am going to treat you seriously for once. Please explain to us how Palin has more experience to be President of the United States than does Obama. If you can’t explain it, then you really do need to stop saying it, because it’s making you look like a total idiot.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pmThe fact that the republicans are now touting Hillary, when they have spent the last 16 years trying to tear the Clinton’s down, speaks VOLUMES about their HYPOCRISY and DESPERATION.
They’re like a wounded animal, cornered, desperately flailing away at their attacker, to no avail. Their time is up, the have shot their wad.
Thank GOD for George Bu$h. He undid in 8 years what cons spent the last 35 years doing, trying to establish a republican majority.
True to form, he has ruined the conservative movement, just like everything else he has ever touched, exposing their ideology, and people like ACME and Tripplydickey, as fraudulent, anti-American 18th century hold overs.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmDoes anyone have any good BEAVER jokes.
¶ AIO
August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmI meant:
McGeezer must have made his choice at the “3AM” presidential desicion time, over an Ensure.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmHilarious how McCain’s VP pick even has more experience than B.Obama. Bring on November.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
***YAWN**** Yup, bring it on.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmCindy McCain chose Sarah Palin to be her husband’s running mate.
I expect to hear that Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin became best buddies at the numerous country club confabs Republicans have held over the past few years, exclusive meetings where the elite of the elitist Republicans gather to discuss their latest strategy for turning our beloved democracy into a Fascist Christian Republican Police State, with our nation ruled by the few, of the few and for the few Fascist Christian Republicans.
John, Sarah and Cindy…a political three-way…with Republicans giving new meaning to the idea of “being in bed together.”
August 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pmKay Says:
and to top it off. to pick someone under investigation. McGeezer must have made this choice at this “3AM” presidential desicion over an Ensure.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
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Well to be fair, for Palin it’d be an 11 PM phone call, since Alaska’s five hours behind.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pmI can’t wait to see Palin debating Joe Biden on foreign policy.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pmThat’s a day to watch.
Got bad news for you triplekick. There is no such person as Sarah Palin.
In actuality, Michelle Bachmann dyed her hair and moved to Alaska two weeks ago when she discovered that she will lose her re-election bid in Minnesota.
RoverBoy forged a bunch of documents to “create” her new persona as Palin and then he informed McNumbNuts that she would be his running-mate.
She’s a blond bimbo in drag. The republican ticket is toast!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pmAlaska is ‘right next door to Russia’
Kuwait is ‘right next door to Iraq’
August 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
Poor Shaynerd,
Oops.
As Lewis Black would say Dribblyhick, what kind of drugs does one take to make one so delusional? You better cut back because that stuff kills brain cells and you are down to only a few.
Anyhoo, if you folks are so confident why are you here. Why don’t you go hang out with the other geniuses of your ilk patting yourselves on the back. Sara Palin, beauty pageant runner up, flute player, and baby mill. Yep, she’s just the kind of woman that Hillary’s followers believe in.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pmI think that McCain picked Sarah because Cindy is dying to bump taco’s with another beauty queen
August 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pmRantingTommy Says:
Too funny. It’s like watching little kids try to lie about something. They think everyone is as gullible and naive as they are! HILARIOUS!
I especially love their talking point that she is more qualified to be President than Obama. Funny thing, they don’t show any evidence of that, though. They just think that because they say it, it must be true.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pmI’ve got much more important news for the day.
Obama, Biden kick off campaign in Pittsburgh
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jQD-Ub1QQZgszKZ4ddpQBmVCevOQD92S1SC00
August 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
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Poor Shaynerd,
Palin is a working mother of 5 children. The Hillary supporters are mothers too and they are going to LOVE Sarah Palin’s story. Especially after the way the media and team obama treated Hillary so badly. This spells doom for Team Obama, you know it. Obama/Biden campaign of fake change is so yesterday. People see that Obama’s “change” just means more liberalism, more socialism, and they really don’t like what they’re learning Obama’s past associations with Ayers, Wright, Rezcko, Flager, et al.
Hilarious how McCain’s VP pick even has more experience than B.Obama. Bring on November.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged and defeated the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.
She was elected governor in 2006.
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996 , Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, and again in 2002.
He was elected Senator of Illinois in 2004.
How does being on a City Council and then Mayor of a hick town , count as more “experience” than being elected to the state Senate and then the US Senate ?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pmI had to burst out laughing a few minutes ago.
National Security conservatives are now asked to swallow the possibility that a forty-something girl who was mayor of a small town in Alaska a couple of years ago could become Commander-in-Chief. The Unified Executive. The Decider. Leader of the Free World. And they must defend the decision as well! I’m laughing again. It could be a Michael Palin sketch.
Like Harriet Miers, Palin will be rejected by conservatives and the religious right, but unlike with Miers, McCain doesn’t get a second choice.
So he loses the inexperienced argument; loses family values voters; loses military conservatives; all on the hope of luring away a few Hillary voters. And the judgment argument now becomes a Goliath that even GOoPers will be making.
I predict a major uptick in contributions to Ron Paul.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pmIt’s a great choice for those of us who don’t want to vote for Obama. She and McCain have been careful when addressing Hillary and her supporters. I appreciated it when McCain defended Hillary’s character and I appreciated Palin’s acknowledgment of the women’s right to vote victory and the work Ferraro and Hillary did running for VP and the presidency during her address.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmA startlingly brilliant choice from a foreign policy perspective!
Senator McCain chooses Governor Palin, effectively firing a shot across the bow at President Putin, implying that should Russia attempt to reign in its renegade province Alaska, that its now become a personal matter! And, President Putin can expect a swift and sure response, as the United States defends its territorial integrity from the massing red horde at its border!
Or, something.
This is the sort of move that will put the Comedy Central and Saturday Night Live writers into overdrive.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmMCMetal Says:
How does being on a City Council and then Mayor of a hick town , count as more “experience” than being elected to the state Senate and then the US Senate ?
Only in the minds of the delusional. One will note that Tripledick isn’t backing up his assertion that Palin is more experienced than Obama with facts.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmTrippledickey, ACME, and Dale are conspicuously absent right now… must be tuning into Lush Limpballs to get the next round of talking points.
It must suck not being able to think for yourself, living your whole life being told what to do and what to think. And when it becomes painfully obvious that your life, and everything you believe in, turns out to be an abject, dismal failure, what do you do?
Get on the Internet and have your @ss handed to you by real Americans.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pmIf you were a Hillary supporter and are seriously considering Palin as an alternative, then you really have no idea what Hillary stood for. And frankly, speaking as a Democrat… Get off our side!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm82: Can you tell me why you aren’t voting for Obama?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pmShe was a Part Time Mayor
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pmShe is a Part Time Governor
but
She was a Full Time PTA member
citizen_pain Says:
It has absolutely nothing to do with color. He has a very reckless plan on health care, his foreign policy is also very soft, and he has very socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pmI wonder how those generals will like having a hockey mom who speaks like she’s in the movie Fargo when she’s not on stage giving them orders. Well her son’s been to a military base so that’s all the experience she needs.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pmNow be fair, she claims to be a full time hockey mom too.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pmSays the loser typing from his mom’s double wide with no education, no job and no healthcare.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pmprabhata Says:
It’s a great choice for those of us who don’t want to vote for Obama.
Seriously, please explain something to me. You talk about “those of us who don’t want to vote for Obama”. Why would any of you not want to vote for him? Why would any of you reject a vision of hope for a better world for all of us in favor of a preservation of the inequal status quo we have now? Are all of you of the mind that some people on this planet are better than others just because of where they were born, or who their parents were? Are all of you who “don’t want to vote for Obama” afraid of change? Please explain this remark. I am being politely serious. Thank you.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pmprabhata Says:
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It’s a great choice for those of us who don’t want to vote for Obama. She and McCain have been careful when addressing Hillary and her supporters. I appreciated it when McCain defended Hillary’s character and I appreciated Palin’s acknowledgment of the women’s right to vote victory and the work Ferraro and Hillary did running for VP and the presidency during her address.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Funny/ironic that you mention “choice” ; something no American female will have if McDepends and Creationist Palin are allowed to get within 5 miles of the White House……….
BTW
Did you “appreciate” McSeixt telling sexist jokes and calling women “c*nts” and a “b1tch” ?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pmACME_Democrat Says:
“It has absolutely nothing to do with color. He has a very reckless plan on health care, his foreign policy is also very soft, and he has very socialist policies.”
What, exactly, is “reckless” regaring healthcare? Do you even know what his plan is?
Do you prefer threat of military force over diplomacy? If so, how has this been working out so far?
Which policies of McCain are not also “socialist”. Do you know what this term actually means?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:06 pmACME_Democrat Says:
citizen_pain Says:
It has absolutely nothing to do with color. He has a very reckless plan on health care, his foreign policy is also very soft, and he has very socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
“Reckless”? Why is it “reckless”? Because he wants to take away the big money that some people are making off the sick and dying? Do you support enriching oneself off the sick and dying?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pmMcWars, did you realize that it was a *Democratic* convention they were speaking at, and was probably not representative of everybody? Do you also realize that the DNC is not going to put someone up on the stage who *doesn’t* agree with them?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pmShayne Says:
Nice rebuttal ! I was expecting a lot less from the caring and loving Lunatic Fringe !
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pmReckless on health care? You must be joking. Please be more specific or I’ll have to assume that you were told by someone else that Obama’s health care is reckless. Have you heard and read his plans?
Foreign policy has been an utter frickin disaster under the GOP and will continue down that path with McCain. They have opted for the “grab the oil and recklessly threaten all that stand in our way” approach. There is no place to go but up and McCain is cut from that same cloth.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pmACME_Democrat Says:
citizen_pain Says:
It has absolutely nothing to do with color. He has a very reckless plan on health care, his foreign policy is also very soft, and he has very socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Do you think that it’s reckless to want every person in the U.S. to have good, affordable healthcare? Do you consider it ’soft’ to NOT want to bomb nations preemptively, or to use diplomacy to achieve desired results, or to find out the facts about a situation in a foreign country before acting militarily, or to want to go after the culprit(s) who attacked on 9/11? And what do you consider ’socialist policies’ – the opportunity to get a good education at a reasonable cost? Please elaborate.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pmReckless plan? Giving Americans the same health care options as our elected representatives? Are you saying your congressman has a reckless health care plan? Reckless to who? The insurance companies? Big Pharma? Please. What is so Reckless about it? This is what you conservatives just don’t get. The investment we put into health care will pay HUGE dividends over time when we have a healthier nation. Do you know how much of your insurance premiums go to cover people with no insurance?
Foreign policy soft? He was against the war in Iraq. He turned out to be right. He called for more support in Afghanistan. Lo and behold, two weeks later, more combat brigades to Afghanistan. He has been talking about a timetable for withdrawal. Lo and behold, weeks later, Bu$h and Rice – hold your breath – agree to a timed withdrawal.
If we were to follow your neocon foreign policy and apply it to president’s past, Nixon would have never gone to China. Reagan wouldn’t have talked with Gorbachev.
You are on the wrong side of history.
Socialist? Do you think the New Deal was a good thing or a bad thing? What about corporate welfare? Congressional pensions? The police force? Firefighters? Roads? Public transportation?
Please. Just admit it. He’s black and you aren’t going to vote for him no matter what.
Either that, or you have surrendered your free will and thought, and have allowed yourself to be programmed by right wing talk radio for so long you simply lack the capacity to consider anything that opposes your views.
You are brainwashed, you are a sheep, a lemming, a rat following the pied piper.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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citizen_pain Says:
It has absolutely nothing to do with color. He has a very reckless plan on health care, his foreign policy is also very soft, and he has very socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This , coming from a clown who supports a wrinkled old moron whose health care plan punishes the infirm , elderly and females (while he himself has tons of health issues , taken care of by his GOVERNMENT PROVIDED HEALTHCARE) , believes and pushes the “cowboy diplomacy” of the past 8 years that has been horribly ineffective and made the US become a joke world-wide , and who has policies that support elitists/insiders , who are akin to vermin.
You are tremendously ignorant and stupid
August 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pmDaleW,
So what exactly is your point? Do you want people to still fall for the self-admitted wedge issues as opposed to facing the real challenges that our Nation currently faces? Is that your hope? Is winning the only thing that is important to your side? What is it, exactly, that your side can offer this country beyond pandering to the lowest common denominator?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Shayne Says:
Says the loser typing from his mom’s double wide with no education, no job and no healthcare.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
You see, ACME, if you could stop voting against your own interests, you could have that job, an education, and healthcare. At any age.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pmDaleW Says:
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Dale, uh, did you hear all of those average affected Americans speak at the convention last night? Let me clue you in: they weren’t speaking at all about wedge issues.
McWars, did you realize that it was a *Democratic* convention they were speaking at, and was probably not representative of everybody? Do you also realize that the DNC is not going to put someone up on the stage who *doesn’t* agree with them?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
That’s odd
Last time statistics/numbers were checked , there are presently more registered Democratic voters than those (like yourself) , who stubbornly and stupidly back the garbage GOP………
August 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pmOn a brighter note, Michael Palin has been to Iraq. :P
August 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pmGee, where to start. First, I don’t like how Obama wants to ’slow future development of weapons systems’ and stop development of missile defense systems.
I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.
I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.
I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.
I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.
basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pmNothing to do with color….why mention it then?
reckless plan on healthcare……I guess you mean more people will die than now under Obama’s plan?
Soft on forign policy…I guess you mean he’s not a war monger.
Socialist policies…..I guess you mean like our firefighters, police, teachers and schools, public highways, etc………..that kind of socialism which you enjoy every day? Did I mention corporate welfare?
Grow up kiddie. Time for the able to manage to fix your screwups.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pmMCMetal Says:
You are tremendously ignorant and stupid
WOW!! I love it. When Libs can’t debate they resort to kindergarten playground mentally. that’s why you are a liberal. Emotion and a lack of knowledge on the issues.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pmACME Democrat, I see it all the time… if they can’t debate something intelligently, they just start name-calling.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pmMcWars, did you realize that it was a *Democratic* convention they were speaking at, and was probably not representative of everybody? Do you also realize that the DNC is not going to put someone up on the stage who *doesn’t* agree with them?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
The polls are not in favor of the republican handling of the economy and healthcare, so yes, the message is therefore amplified at that *Democratic* convention. I’d be surprised if you find a middle class person benefiting from your principles who’s willing to speak at the Republic convention, but then they’d be speaking for the MINORITY.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pmACME_Democrat Says:
MCMetal Says:
You are tremendously ignorant and stupid
WOW!! I love it. When Libs can’t debate they resort to kindergarten playground mentally. that’s why you are a liberal. Emotion and a lack of knowledge on the issues.
There is nothing wrong with speaking the truth and what he said is the truth. You are tremendously ignorant and stupid. You spout talking points but lack the ability to back them up with facts or proof. That is what ignorant and stupid people do.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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MCMetal Says:
You are tremendously ignorant and stupid
WOW!! I love it. When Libs can’t debate they resort to kindergarten playground mentally. that’s why you are a liberal. Emotion and a lack of knowledge on the issues.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
That you removed the entire paragraph filled with facts that preceeded that statement , shows how much knowledge and intellectual honesty you possess …….
About the same as the current administration.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pmDaleW Says:
ACME Democrat, I see it all the time… if they can’t debate something intelligently, they just start name-calling.
Stupid is as stupid does. And there’s no cure for stupid. When you start posting something other than Republican talking points and back up your assertions with facts, then and only then will you be acknowledge as anything other than stupid.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pmDaleW Says:
Gee, where to start. First, I don’t like how Obama wants to ’slow future development of weapons systems’ and stop development of missile defense systems.
Do you honestly thing that the most pressing threat to the United States is a nuclear weapon launched on a missile? And do you really think that the best defense against that threat is a technology that doesn’t work?
I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.
Yes, cause private companies like Bear Sterns and Enron have shown how good they are at handling people’s life savings.
I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.
Subsidizing the rest of the world? Do you mean buying billions of dollars in consumer goods from China, or spending billions a year on military aid to Israel?
I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.
First off, Reverend Wright is totally badass, so you’re an idiot for even bringing him up. And how much of a role do you think these people have in the campaign? Is it equivalent to the role the other people involved in the Keating Five scandal play in the McCain campaign?
I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.
Um, Obama didn’t do that. You people did that, and then criticized him for it. He positioned himself as a Senator from Illnois.
basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
And you’ve failed to list a single one. Well done, idiot!
August 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pmDaleW Says:
ACME Democrat, I see it all the time… if they can’t debate something intelligently, they just start name-calling.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I see it all the time. When the wingnuts want the oil of other countries, they just start bombing.
Actions speak louder than words. You are to be condemned for your actions.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pmDaleW,
Honestly, do you want the money that you’ve poured into Social Security to be there when you retire? If you want all government programs and services to be privatized you need look no further than the privatization of our armed forces to understand what happens when the profit motive and shareholders are all that matters.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmDaleW Says:
ACME Democrat, I see it all the time… if they can’t debate something intelligently, they just start name-calling.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
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Calling people like you “idiot,” is not name calling. It’s the stating of an obvious fact. But then we know how you conservatives hate science and facts, so…
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmI never heard that. You made it up.
Too damned bad, the gop couldn’t even pull that one off when they had full control of the whithouse and congress. You are a thin minority extremist….almost alone in fact. Most republicans would not even go along with this fools errand.
Once again, too damned bad. The era of unilateral militarism is over….it failed miserably in case you haven’t been paying attention.
I haven’t seen them at all except where you dig them up from the past. Shall we talk about mccains problems like hagee, the keeting 5 etc. You don’t really have a leg to stand on here fool.
You only see him in this light because you don’t have anything real on him. Actually if he is seen that way it is because we need saving from the likes of you.
Socialist policies…..I guess you mean like our firefighters, police, teachers and schools, public highways, etc………..that kind of socialism which you enjoy every day? Did I mention corporate welfare?
Did I mention social security……try again but please try to make some sense. I tire of derailing your foolish and childish arguments. It really reminds me of a kid who is fixated on candy and you can’t get their attention to talk to them and they don’t listen when you do.
You have been slammed to the floor. Please do us all a favor and don’t get up. I really don’t want to hurt you any more.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmDaleW Says:
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ACME Democrat, I see it all the time… if they can’t debate something intelligently, they just start name-calling.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
And you call this “debating” , skid mark ?
Gee, where to start. First, I don’t like how Obama wants to ’slow future development of weapons systems’ and stop development of missile defense systems.
I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.
I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.
I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.
I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.
basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.
No reasoning nor rationale for any of your silly statements , save that “you just don’t plain like it” ; man , how can anyone argue with such succinct and undeniable logic ………
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmYou know all those dead Iraqi women and children? Name calling by demlibs was the least of their problems.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pmHow patriarchal of McCain to feel the need to stand beside his VP choice, as though she couldn’t stand alone.
Looked like he was trying to read her script, too, although he didn’t get to the line about her standing up to big oil companies in time to whisper, “Ix-nay on the oil-ay.”
August 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmACME_Democrat Says:
MCMetal Says:
You are tremendously ignorant and stupid
WOW!! I love it. When Libs can’t debate they resort to kindergarten playground mentally. that’s why you are a liberal. Emotion and a lack of knowledge on the issues.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
WOW!! I love it. When a Republiscum troll can’t answer 6, count ‘em 6, people asking for clarification of his opinions, he resorts to saying that someone ELSE has a lack of knowledge on the issues.
Acme, answer the rest of us, please!
August 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmI just got off of the phone. Is it true that McCain has an
August 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmillegitimate black child?
There has been plenty of honest and legitimate discussion of your debating points and this is your answer? And you are serious?
By the way calling someone stupid when they exhibit all the symptoms is not name calling. It is just calling a spade a spade.
Admit it, you have been beaten literally to death on this thread and you don’t have anything left and so you resort to saying we won’t debate….pot meet kettle.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pmDaleW Says:
Gee, where to start. First, I don’t like how Obama wants to ’slow future development of weapons systems’ and stop development of missile defense systems.
Are there missile systems that show promise to actually work and aren’t just money pits for tax-payer dollars?
“I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.”
So is the rest of the country. With Wall Street lacking the ability to manage their own $$ why should we trust them with our Social Security?
“I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.”
What is he going to give up to the UN, exactly? We created the damn thing… why not use it for it’s purpose? Oh, I know… you want to illegally attack more countries.
So, you disagree with the aid that Bush has sent and McCain plans to send to other countries?
“I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.”
Where are these people, exactly?
“I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.”
That’s a right wing talking point and nothing more. He has made the point over and over that this isn’t about him. It is about, and up to, us. He inspires people to act and that is what is necessary at this point in our history. We can’t leave it up to our government. Shouldn’t you guys respect that?
“basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.”
Do you even know what “socialist” means? I’ll ask you again: What policies of John McCain are not socialist?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pmDaleW Says:
Gee, where to start. First, I don’t like how Obama wants to ’slow future development of weapons systems’ and stop development of missile defense systems.
You mean you don’t like that he wants to put an end to costly, unnecessary, non-functioning weapons systems like “Star Wars”? Well, I can understand why a conservative would dislike somebody who didn’t think Ronald Reagan’s vision of world destruction. Reagan’s dead, by the way.
I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.
You mean you don’t like Social Security. Period. I can understand why conservatives want to destroy Social Security by turning the guaranteed benefits into a gamble on the stock market. They hate everything connected to FDR. In fact, hatred of FDR and his policies are the foundation of the modern conservative movement. I guess you’d rather see the elderly suffer in disgrace than live in dignity. Just because the “stock market” as a whole has gone up, it doesn’t mean that everyone’s investments for retirements will go up. You do understand that, don’t you? People can and do lose their life savings when they invest in the market.
I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.
You mean helping foreign countries with their porblems? In case you haven’t noticed, the “world” does not consist of the United States alone. There are other countries out there and other human beings, who have just as much right to live in peace and harmony as anyone else. Why are you conservatives always against helping them?
I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.
You mean people from his past to used to gather toward him. None of those people has anything to do with his campaign for the presidency. If you don’t like what you’re hearing, stop listening to Sean Hannity.
I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.
You mean the way the right wing has positioned Obama as a “savior”. Obama has never “positioned himself” that way. Looks like you’ve bought into yet another right wing lie.
basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
You mean, basically, you don’t like liberals, or anything that smacks of caring for your fellow human being.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pmalpuz3 Says:
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I just got off of the phone. Is it true that McCain has an
illegitimate black child?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Yeah
If it was Karl Rove on the other line ………
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pmDale says:
I don’t like how he is against Social Security privatization.
*** So you would rather turn people’s retirement over to Wall Street. Really smart. Like those fat cats have the best interest of the nation in their hearts. There is more to life than obtaining wealth, having the most toys.
I don’t like how he wants to give up so much to the United nations, and favors us subsidizing the rest of the world.
*** Give what up? Specifics? Anyway, don’t we already subsidize the rest of the world? Haven’t we been doing that since the end of WWII? You actually LIKE spending 10 billion a month in Iraq?
I don’t like the people who surround him, specifically Wright, Ayers, and Rezco.
*** Abramoff, Keating 5, Hagee, Robertson, oh, and did I mention GEORGE BU$H?
I don’t like how he’s positioned himself as the savior.
*** I guess you’d prefer someone who actually TALKS WITH GOD, huh? Like George? He hasn’t positioned himself as the savior at all. that’s a right wing frame. But following that logic, it must really piss your off when the right wing has deified Reagan, huh?
basically, I just plain don’t like *any* of his liberal, socialist policies.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm*** I guess you prefer greed, selfishness, I have mine Fu(k everyone else? Now that’s REALLY a great American attitude. America wouldn’t have lasted as a nation if people like you had been there from the start.
DaleW Says:
The epitome of a liberal is the emotional leach attached to their political ideology.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pmGreat post, 666lattes. I knew someone would finish before me. :)
August 29th, 2008 at 2:32 pmACME_Democrat Says:
The epitome of a liberal is the emotional leach attached to their political ideology.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
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What does this even mean? Did you go to dictionary.com and pick out a few polysyllabic words and just throw into a sentence so you could appear intelligent?
It didn’t work.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pmI don’t have any leaches attached to me, eomotional or otherwise.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pmWhat’s this I hear in the whispers about McCain and his temper? From what I’m hearing, he has a “loose screw” and he shouldn’t be entrusted w/ nuclear weapons.
I’ve also heard that 5 years as POW in Vietnam may have driven him insane.
?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm“Sarah barracuda”
August 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pmPalin conflicted with the city’s staff and fired department heads who had stood by her predecessor, leading opponents to call her “Sarah barracuda”, reviving a nickname she earned on the basketball court for her fierce and adversarial style.
ACME_Democrat Says:
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DaleW Says:
The epitome of a liberal is the emotional leach attached to their political ideology.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Because the truly independent thinker believes they need a daddy figure/figurehead , that should lead and everyone should follow them implicitly and without question or show any type of dissent , which is what the GOP and their sheep backers like yourself have become ………….??
No thanks……………
August 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pmThat’s it? That’s your answer to all the replies to your stupidity??
Why don’t you just quote Elmer Fudd?
FDR said a conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs that steadfastly refuses to walk forward.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pmGreat job all around in countering ACME_Democrat and DaleW’s foolish talking points. You guys made it look easy. These frauds must throw up in their mouths when they get debunked so thoroughly.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pmMcBane just sealed his Walter Mondaleish fate with that lame VP pick.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pmFrom a post off my blog, dated around 2005:
The conservative movement over the past 30 or so years has shown us two things: One, they know how to define and get their message out to the masses (in their case the ignorant masses – maybe that is why their simple message has such an appeal?), and two, their policies are counterproductive to the majority of Americans. For instance, when nationalized health care is discussed, they immediately start convulsing and blathering about socialism, despite the fact that the vast majority of Americans support some sort of national health care plan.
That begs the question: How do they win election after election when it is clear that the majority of citizens favor policies they are against? It is my opinion that they have up to this point won the war of words because they succesfully define what they stand for in simple, easily remembered terms. They have also been succesful in defining the opposition as bleeding heart liberals who don’t stand for anything.
Well, that needs to change. Democrats and progressives are now faced with the task of re-defining what it is we stand for – repackaging our core beliefs and values in such a way that our message is clear and decisive. Now, I am not going to attempt to formulate this new message, but I think a good start would be to contrast what a progressive stands for as opposed to what a conservative does.
A progressive is someone that already has healthcare, but understands the need for a health care system that provides coverage for the millions of un-insured. A conservative has healthcare but doesn’t give a damn if his neighbor doesn’t. A progressive pays his taxes because he knows without tax revenue, government would not be able to operate in a manner beneficial to its citizens. A conservative sees government as an impediment to their success. A progressive sees environmental regulations and standards as necessary to protect natural resources such as clean air and water for future generations. A conservative sees environmental regulations as an unfair business expense. A progressive sees smart investment in public schools as the key to our future success. A conservative wants to eliminate public schools altogether, in favor of private schools where only the privaledged few have access. A progressive looks to further cultivate international alliances so that when we need help we can rely on our allies. A conservative sees all other nations as subordinate, and couldn’t care less what our reputation and standing in the world is. A progressive is for transparency in government which is essential for a democratic society. A conservative will gladly digest whatever message the party disseminates. I could go on and on, but I think I made my point.
As Paul Waldman discusses in his very good article “The Progressive Identity Complex” found at http://www.tompaine.com, it is essential that we frame our message to convey the notion that WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. By contrasting our core beliefs against conservative core beliefs in a straight forward, easily understood manner, the choice should be obvious to those Americans who care about the direction of our country.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pmACME_Democrat Says:
“The epitome of a liberal is the emotional leach attached to their political ideology.” = “debating”?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pmHi troll, I have to admit I’m lovin it.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmTrip, Dale and prabhata’
Honest question to all of you:
Are you completely happy with this choice for VP? Was this the person you wanted and have supported the decision all along?
Yea, …. Right!
August 29th, 2008 at 2:44 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Heather Wilson
That brain-dead , masculine sounding turd of a Congresswoman from New Mexico , just claimed on MSNBC that Creationist Palin has more “executive experience” than Obama , Biden and Chuck Schumer COMBINED .
Since when does a state with a population as small as Alaska’s , have a need for a governor that understands the US economy and the legislation that entails it , or anything that comes close to it ?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pmWayne A. Schneider Says,
It’s interesting to me how close all of our rebuttals were while clearly showing the differences between mindless talking points and actually being right on the issues. Great job everyone :)
August 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pmExcellent post, citizen_pain (2:39 PM)
August 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pmVPILF
August 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pmGreat picture of
VP pick Sarah Palin
at
Seeds of Doubt
http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/
666lattes Says,
I just wish the MSM would be as quick to pounce on the right-wing lies as we were. Obviously, considering how quickly three of us could rip those comments apart in a matter of minutes should prove how easy it is to do.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pmHow about we don’t call the trolls idiots , how about:
August 29th, 2008 at 3:24 pm-emotinionally unbalanced
-callas
-highly distubed
-abnormal
-multiple personality disorders???
tony andlido
disturbed, that is
August 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pmMaybe the choice of Palin is just McCain’s insurance against being impeached for unilaterally “bomb, bomb, bomb”ing Iran.
On another note, this VP pick is a mother of five — the youngest is still a baby who also has Downs syndrome. Being a good mom for just 2 children while holding down an ordinary is really hard. Being a mom with 4 children at home, one of which is a special needs newborn, while performing well in a job, would be enormously difficult. Campaigning for the Vice Presidency, and then actually being able to fulfill the job? I can’t imagine it.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pmTripleKick 15 Says:
McCain/Palin is going to wipe the floor with lightweight obama and boring Biden.
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Well, considering how empty the Nutter Center is going to be for McCain’s “big show” tonight, cleaning the floor should be pretty easy for them…
August 29th, 2008 at 4:08 pmPalin knows about as much about Iraq as the American people know about Palin. Nothing.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:19 pm