McCain To Announce Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin As His Vice Presidential Pick (Updated)
McCain To Announce Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin As His Vice Presidential Pick (Updated)
Fox News and numerous media outlets are reporting that John McCain will name Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate this morning in Dayton. Palin is two years into her term as governor.
Palin is anti-choice and is a member of an “anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.” In 2002, when she was running for lieutenant governor, “Palin sent an e-mail to the anti-abortion Alaska Right to Life Board saying she was as ‘pro-life as any candidate can be’ and has ‘adamantly supported our cause since I first understood, as a child, the atrocity of abortion.’”
Newsweek reports some more biographical details:
Among other things, she supports drilling in Alaska, with limits, she’s pro-life and she’s a fiscal conservative. … Plus, Palin’s an interesting character: a former beauty queen, she was a star high school basketball player (she was known as “Sarah Barracuda” for her intense play). Palin married her childhood sweetheart, a blue collar oil field worker (who is on leave, so as not to create a conflict of interest). She hunts, she fishes, and earlier this year, she posed for Vogue.
UPDATE: On CNN this morning, conservative Bill Bennett said Palin is “best known for her advocacy of drilling, drilling for oil in ANWR in the state of Alaska.” Watch it:
UPDATE II: This morning on Fox News, McCain spokeswoman Nancy Pfotenhauer was asked about the relationship between McCain and Palin. “How well do they know one another?” host Bill Hemmer asked. Pfotenhauer said:
You’re running flat into the wall of my ignorance here, Bill. I truly have no indication whatsoever the extent of a relationship that exists with the Governor of Alaska.
Watch it:
UPDATE III: Palin wonders “what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” Watch it:
UPDATE IV: Palin has said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state’s public classrooms. More from Rick Weiss.
UPDATE V: Igor Volsky takes a look at Palin’s health care record.
UPDATE VI: A press release put out today from the Miss America Organization: “The Miss America Organization is pleased to announce that former Miss Alaska contestant, Sarah Heath Palin, has just been named as John McCain’s vice-presidential candidate on the Republican ticket.”
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But is she blonde with a million mile stare?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:41 amReich-wingers hate woman and believe they are fourth class citizens. Game, set, match for Obama.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:43 amPalin will be the ultimate "weak sister" -- another millstone around McNumbNuts' neck.
She's been governor for a year and a half? I won't make the "inexperienced" claim against her but this fact alone will blunt McNumbNuts' criticism of Obama.
She fits all the conservative requirements, though. Pro-life, pro-drilling, etc., so the base will stay intact.
This is nothing more than a bald attempt to play the "gender card" and go after Hillary's supporters. But, as she herself would say: "No way, no how."
August 29th, 2008 at 10:44 amA first-term Governor.
Short on experience.
Going for the disgruntled Billary fans?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:44 amBiden will destroy her during the VP debate.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:45 amSlightly OT but my young bride has just explained why the polls show McLame with 43% and Obama with 42%. Her logic: that they only poll Republicans.
Makes sense to me!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:45 amJimAK/Wilke will be here in 3 ...... 2...... 1....., telling us how ahe is not one of the 'typical' AK pliticians (Stevens, Young, Stevens) and is actually HONEST.
Any bets?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:46 amSmart, tough, thinks for herself, goes after corruption, even in her own party.
This is an excellent choice for Sen. McCain.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:46 amAll of McCain's attacks are about Obama's lack of experience, so when it comes time to pick a VP, who does he select? A first term Governor with almost no experience.
This is a clear attempt to try to pick up some of the female vote. McCain is counting on women voting against their interests just because they see a female face.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:47 amCite examples of these attributes.
We'll wait.....
August 29th, 2008 at 10:47 amAnyone surprised McCain went for the young woman?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:48 amWill create an interesting challenge for Biden - he'll have to rip her apart in debates without sounding like he's being mean. But it does create a serious problem in the argument that Obama isn't ready to lead - it really reminds me of Bush picking Dan Q.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:48 amDaleW Says: "Smart, tough, thinks for herself, goes after corruption..."
All she can get! Typical Repuke.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 amSo 1 1/2 years of gubernatorial experience is not enough for a Veep, but 4 years of Senate experience (2 of those spent campaigning) is enough for the presidency?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 amPro life feminist? Oxymoron or just a moron? She's under investigation in the Stevens case for crying out loud. Can't wait for the debates!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 amLets hear all about her exerting influence to get her ex-brother in law fired from his police job!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 amThis choice does provoke the obvious bumper-sticker, though. Let's hope that McNumbNuts has a good proof-reader on staff.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am
I'm sure she will be ready at 3am when the call concerning Grampy's heart attack comes in. Can she dribble?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:50 amIt's desperate pandering to the disgruntled Hillary supporters who were won over this week.
A day late and a dollar short, as usual.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am4 years of Senate experience is enough for the presidency
Hell yes.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am"Beauty (queen) and the Beast"...
but, is she ready to be president?
she's so young! inexperienced!
what a farce...
August 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am1) Obama also served in the state Senate, 2) it's you vile reich-wing scum that are claiming Obama's 4 years of Senate experience is "not enough".
You dirt-bag hypocrite.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:51 amThis move sure smacks of extreme desperation on the part of the GOOP...
Can't wait to watch all the Beltway pundits praise this one thru clenched teeth...
August 29th, 2008 at 10:51 amA PURE political pick. Palin is ot a confidante or friend of McCain's. Tis is a despearte attempt to appear Mavericky and go for the Hillary Deadenders.
It won't work. Will Americans really feel comfortable wit Palin as President? Puh-leeeze.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:51 amMcGrampa wanted a VP is that is capable of changing his depends. He's got his gal for the job.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:52 amSo it's gone from the Straight Talk Express to the Hooters Special™???
August 29th, 2008 at 10:52 amwhy is she "under investigation"?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:52 amHe’s got his gal for the job.
Lord knows Cindy is off the job.
She got plenty of cash to pay the yard boy to do her dirty work.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:53 amMcCain rally tickets still available
This really says it all. This is for the Nutter Center near Dayton that seats nowhere near 85,000.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:53 amI don't know how many "disgruntled Hillary supporters" -- that group the McCain campaign is courting so desperately -- will be charmed by an anti-choice woman, but he may get a few.
It's obvious that Palin is anti-choice. What I want to know is, where does Palin stand on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act? That will also tell how she will stand up for women.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:53 amDaleW Says: So 1 1/2 years of gubernatorial experience is not enough for a Veep, but 4 years of Senate experience (2 of those spent campaigning) is enough for the presidency?
I see you have a problem with your own twisted logic. LOL
By the way, Obama has more experience than that. In fact, he has more pre-Presidental experience than 3 of the 4 heads represented on Mt. Rushmore.
Besides, it's not about experience, it's about judgment. And anyone who would call herself an anti-abortion Feminist clearly lacks common sense.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:53 amBadmoodman Says:
It won’t work. Will Americans really feel comfortable wit Palin as President? Puh-leeeze.
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It also is based on the assumption that red state voters w/ be so impressed by her, uh, 'attributes" that they will gladly overlook the last 8 years of GOOPer rule, and those hideous warts all over McStain's candidacy...
August 29th, 2008 at 10:54 amIt guarantees McCain will hold Alaska but it's clearly designed to try and hold the horny white male vote. Only a blue dog discontented Hillary supporter would go for a pick like this. No feminist would fall for this pandering.
It makes it clear McCain knew he was in trouble and had to get an historic pick on the ticket to counter Obama, as just another white male and McSame would draw yawns.
Now he's going to look even duller when they appear together.
And her own ethics cloud has yet to be cleared up for her to regain her clean reformer image.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:55 amI guess everyone else must have said "thanks, but no thanks." Jim on Stephanie Miller noted her lovely Flobee hairdo. Many of the women who had problems with the repuke pro life stand will probably STILL have a problem with Palin. Media, though, is in a frenzy.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:55 amanyone who would call herself an anti-abortion Feminist
Like a rainbow-friendly gay-basher.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:55 amIf true, even his VP pick is a pander to a group that everything else he has said goes against. It's a lost cause. He has been against equality, but now he's for it?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:55 amWell, Bill Kristol thought she should be his pick back in July. Even with this baggage. Like I said earlier, she is the perfect GOP'er.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/07/31/palin/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room
August 29th, 2008 at 10:55 amHey don't disparage her experience she was mayor of Wasilla a town of 8000 (how does that compare to Richmond ?)
August 29th, 2008 at 10:56 amACME_Democrat Says:
What a blow to the Democrat party!! I guess this sobered up all the Obama gushers!! Great Pick McCain!! Another dreadful loss for the Democrap Party!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
I think you should change your name to Cookie Cutter Republican! Just what the Democrat's needed was for McCain to pick the same old tripe! I was getting sobered up but now I may just have to keep on celebrating!!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am35. Kevin Hayden And her own ethics cloud has yet to be cleared up for her to regain her clean reformer image.
Don't know what you're talking about and want to know more. - Intriguing as I was going to ask if commmercials may be able to find evidence to draw a line from her to a congress critter from Alaska under investigation ?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:57 amMcStain has stated that he will pick a veep who is ready and able to be president on day 1. So he picks a 44-year-old ex-beauty queen who as been governor of a state less populated than Los Angeles for a year and a half.
Her only claim to fame is that she stopped the Bridge to Nowhere. Economic expertise? Not so much. Foreign policy experience? None.
I'd say McStain is demonstrating his judgement perfectly.
It's not even going to close in November...
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 10:58 amHey, looks like the age and lack of experience argument is now off the table!! :)
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McCain rally tickets still available
By Lynn Hulsey
Staff Writer
Thursday, August 28, 2008
DAYTON — Tickets are still available for Sen. John McCain's Friday, Aug. 29, rally at Wright State University's Nutter Center in Fairborn.
McCain and his wife Cindy will appear at the event, dubbed the "Road to the Convention Rally." Doors open at 9 a.m. and the event begins at 11 a.m.
Tickets are being given away at county GOP offices in southwest Ohio and in Indiana and Kentucky.
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"The Road to the Convention Rally"???
What an... inspiring name... and original, too.
Being held at the appropiately named "Nutter Center"...
And even when they're GIVING the tickets away FOR FREE, they still can't draw a crowd...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I. LOVE. IT!!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:58 amOpps... sorry about that post. Thought I had gotten rid off all that crap first.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:59 amKevinHayden Says: It makes it clear McCain knew he was in trouble and had to get an historic pick on the ticket to counter Obama, as just another white male and McSame would draw yawns.
Bingo! It reeks of desperation and an attempt to look progressive actually.
I wonder how many anti-woman reicht-wingers this just cost McCain?
I wanna see the polls with Bob Barr factored in.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:59 amShe's everything I despise in a person. Period. I am not thinking in terms of color/gender/age/income etc.
yuck.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:59 amReminds me of the VP pick of Dan Quayle by GHW Bush. Clearly an attempt to attract female voters to a very unappealing candidate. Feminists against choice? Can you really be a feminist if you don't allow a woman control over her own life?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:00 amMaybe she's the only one who said "yes."
August 29th, 2008 at 11:00 amIn college, Palin played the flute and was Miss Congeniality.
Uh huh, I think those two go hand-in-hand, ifyaknowwhatImean.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:02 amMother of 5, married an "eskimo", oldest son serving in Iraq, youngest born earlier this year.
Of course they're pro-drilling: every Alaskan resident gets dividend checks monthly from the Oil and Gas industry.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:02 amIf hillary supporters vote the McGrampa/Beauty Queen ticket, they are voting against every issue Hillary stands for. Best of luck.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:03 amSmart, tough, thinks for herself, goes after corruption, even in her own party.
My, she will be busy then, won't she?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:03 amWell done McCain! A great choice.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:03 amkaty Says:
why is she “under investigation”?
She had a hand in the firing of a state trooper, who just happened to be her brother in law who was supposedly beating her sister.
Use of power to settle a personal score. Sounds about right!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 11:04 amIt sure would have been fun to see Hillary mop the floor with this person.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:04 amIn McShames mind, is it oil before beer? Is the beer is about to go stale as the oil never will.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:05 amIsn't she still under investigation?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amBiden will not only mop the floor with Palin, he's going to make her take out the waste water.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amDaleW Says:
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"... goes after corruption, even in her own party."
She has a lot of opportunity to do that.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amThis will end the rumors he picked Vicki Iseman.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amTook the words right out of my mouth, TRoS!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amLibertyLover Says: Can you really be a feminist if you don’t allow a woman control over her own life?
No.
I wonder how Rush the Feminiist hater will like this pick considering how much he hates women who call themsleves Feminists, and well, McCain as the GOP candidate?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:07 amBadmoodman Says:
In college, Palin played the flute and was Miss Congeniality.
Uh huh, I think those two go hand-in-hand, ifyaknowwhatImean.
so, she likes "pencil dicks"?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:08 am'cause playing the flute, the lips are pursed and you blow, kinda like a whistle...
WHO?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:09 amI have tried to visualize McCain being our pres. It scares me to death. BUT WAIT - we could have a woman with a year experience as governor as the most powerful person in the world. I'm gonna be sick
August 29th, 2008 at 11:10 amGot to hand it to the McCain crew. Pretty much took the wind out of the sails of the events of last night.
In this obvious political move McCain makes clear that he would rather win an election than insure that America would have someone ready to lead should he become incapacitated.
Wonder if Palin made sure he would never call her a c*nt.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:10 amFan of Man Says:
WHO?
LOL. I wonder how many people were asked before someone came up the Pain.
McCain/Pain 2008 - What a McPain in the side of Democracy.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:12 amPatty says:
August 29th, 2008 at 11:12 amMaybe she’s the only one who said “yes.”
ROFLMAO Thank you thank you. I needed that in order to stave off the apoplexy that is forming in my head.
As good a choice as could be made, given the other options.
Except for the current investigation into her firing a cop for breaking her sister's heart she hasn't had the time or inclination to indulge in any major corruption (as far as I know) so by any standard she is squeaky clean.
But as noted by others here, she also has limited experience and she's against reproductive rights so she'll only appeal to the hard-core GOP base.
Every VP choice is a calculated one but IMHO this one is more calculated than most and in typical modern GOP fashion it's badly and transparently calculated.
How big of a deal will be made of the fact that this is the GOP's first female VP candidate? Quite a big deal I'm sure.
Her lack of political 'baggage' is countered by her lack of experience. IMHO I think she's been primarily picked because Hillary wasn't picked for VP by Obama. It risks energizing the GOP female vote ( numbers count) but alienating the male base. In all I think it's a wash for the GOP.
record is Apart from her rleatively uintaine d but they will have to be careful
August 29th, 2008 at 11:13 amDaleW Says
August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am
So 1 1/2 years of gubernatorial experience is not enough for a Veep, but 4 years of Senate experience (2 of those spent campaigning) is enough for the presidency?
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I believe the Republicans have made past experience an issue, not us.
In the first place, any candidate for vice president should be every bit as qualified as if he/she was a candidate for president. After all, the primary function of the veep is to be able to assume the top office if needed.
In the second place, Obama has more political experience than you give him credit for. His political experience roughly mirrors that of Abraham Lincoln -- a man whose political experience consisted of serving in the Illinois legislature and a single term in Congress before becoming elected president.
Experience isn't the ultimate litmus test of a leader. If it was, we would have elected Strom Thurmond president when he was in his late 90's.
It's going to be interesting watching this. McCain and his people often hammer Obama on the point of his "lack of experience", but now it's going to be impossible to continue this line of attack without it biting them back in the butt.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:13 amgood_golly8 Says: Speaking as a Conservative who would have favored Mitt Romney for the V.P. slot, I think this is a brilliant game changing (for the better) pick.
Stop it. You don't think. You BELIEVE. And you believe because you are a typical lock-step con believes whatever the leader tells you to believe.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:13 amHell's bells. A real, live, feminazi!
That strange noise you here is a multitude of Reichradio hosts groaning because they just realized half their shtick needs to get tossed. Can't you just here Lush and Bill0 saying, "she's not like those women"?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:14 amdareme Says:
I have tried to visualize McCain being our pres. It scares me to death. BUT WAIT - we could have a woman with a year experience as governor as the most powerful person in the world. I’m gonna be sick
And if McCain, who turned 72 today, doesn't make a healthy run through the next 4 years, Pain would be the President! YUP, nothing like complaining about experience and then putting Pain in that very position. Well thought out McCain! LOL
August 29th, 2008 at 11:15 amKay Says:
She’s everything I despise in a person. Period. I am not thinking in terms of color/gender/age/income etc.
yuck.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Which leaves what, "species"? Just kidding. ;)
I know what you mean. She seems like she would be appealing to the worst in humanity, which explains why she's a Republican.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:16 amwho has Down syndrome
Because regressives hate modern medical breakthroughs that result from stem cell research.
Oh the irony when an ignorant political position based on an ancient book of fiction bites those who hold such beliefs sqaure on the tuckus.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:16 amspencers mom Says:
She had a hand in the firing of a state trooper, who just happened to be her brother in law who was supposedly beating her sister.
Use of power to settle a personal score. Sounds about right!
Sorry, meant to say "Abuse of power to settle a personal score."
Which makes her perfect to receive the baton from the Bush era. Somehow Valerie Plame comes to mind...
This is such a laugh! Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC just stated that McStain has just removed the "experience" issue from the debate. Even Kay Baily Hutchison can't seem to find much positive to say!
Can you say landslide?
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 11:17 amGovernor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month.
A VP with a down syndrome child and one in Iraq, along with a POW Presidential candidate do not make for proper credentials to run the country.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:18 am#44 The Republic of Stupidity Says:
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August 29th, 2008 at 11:18 ammisshusseinmolly Says: It’s going to be interesting watching this. McCain and his people often hammer Obama on the point of his “lack of experience”, but now it’s going to be impossible to continue this line of attack without it biting them back in the butt.
Yeah, I don't think he thought this one out at all, just knee-jerk reacted to his fears of losing.
I agree with you that this is probably going to be an albatross for him in the long run. Every significant argument they leveled against Obama are all now moot points.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:19 amWonder, given that she has a special-needs child, what her position is on health-care?
Oh, wait, the adviser/non adviser for McCain says she can just take the child to the emergency room and wait there.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:19 amgood_golly8 Says:
Governor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month
- - Yeah, Biden has a son going to Iraq too. And Palin's infant son is a drawback for the VP post.
Checkmate.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:20 amgood_golly8 Says: Governor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month.
How is she going to take care of an infant and be the VP? That's just selfish and irresponsible to except such a demanding rule when you have a newborn baby.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:20 amso everyone against abortion is against it because of the bible? pretty broad brush, isn't it?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:20 amDon't worry, under socialized medicine, the wait will only be 3 times longer.... 0h, I can't wait for the day...
August 29th, 2008 at 11:20 amgoon_golly8 Says:
Governor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month.
Wow. That certainly qualifies her to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency -- especially with a 72-year-old cancer victim as the head of the ticket.
What in God's name does a child with Down's syndrome have to do with being VP? She's got a baby with special needs and she's planning on a full-time job in DC? This is the "family values" stuff we've been hearing about from the GOP? Will Phyllis Schlafly approve?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:21 amkonchster at 10:56 am
"Hey don’t disparage her experience she was mayor of Wasilla a town of 8000 (how does that compare to Richmond ?)"
Karl Rove's assessment of her will be very interesting.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:22 amTypical. A challenged child is a liability, not a joy. Should Gov. Palin aborted the baby instead?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:22 amHillary went for politics instead of "baking cookies", and she was looked up to, now you guys criticize Palin for it?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:22 amwell its true mccain has always had a thing for young women.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:23 ampretty broad brush, isn’t it?
I bet you were born late too.
You missed my point due to your GOP blinders.
What else is new...
August 29th, 2008 at 11:23 amUnlike Bill..
August 29th, 2008 at 11:23 amIsn't she under investigation in Alaska?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:23 amYou might like to know that under the heading of "Sarah Palin on Foreign Policy" at the On The Issues site for her, this is what's listed:
"No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org."
August 29th, 2008 at 11:24 amA challenged child is a liability, not a joy
Typical GOPer.
It's not all or nothing.
A child with DS is a liability AND a joy in the right home.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 amDaleW Says: so everyone against abortion is against it because of the bible? pretty broad brush, isn’t it?
No. There are a handful of you who are against it because you are self-centered, anti-woman, and ignorant.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 amleftcoast Says
August 29th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Got to hand it to the McCain crew. Pretty much took the wind out of the sails of the events of last night.
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Do you really think so? I don't. I do agree with you that it's an ultimate pandering move, designed to woo women, but it remains to be seen how many women (especially Hillary-supporting women) are going to flock to a ticket with two anti-choice people on it.
I don't believe for a moment that McCain would have chosen a first-term governor of Alaska whose only prior political experience was as a city council member if it had been a man. Alaska isn't a battleground state rich in electoral votes, and Palin doesn't have the strong economic knowledge McCain needs to balance out his lack of it.
That said, he could have done worse. Imagine if, for example, he had chosen Michele Bachmann. Palin appears to be intelligent and competent, at least at first glance. And I imagine we will be finding out much more about her in the days to come.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 amamazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 amOkay, the Repugs will protect us from terrorist, and the others in the world that will do us harm, with a 72 year OLD man who can't remember how many homes he owns and a one term Governor from corrupt Alaska with no federal government experience and no foreign policy experience and no national or world economic understand.
Should McSame as Bush unfortunately tip over in the first year, should he get elected, OUR country will be left in the hands of a totally inexperienced unqualified lightweight.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:26 amMcCain has just told us how seriously he takes the war we are in. Not seriously at all.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:26 amMcCain chooses young pretty women to offset his old, dead-guy persona.
Might work on the mouth breathers.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:27 amgood_golly8 Says:
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Speaking as a Conservative who would have favored Mitt Romney for the V.P. slot, I think this is a brilliant game changing (for the better) pick.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Speaking as an American , you're a moron and a delusional fool ; can't wait to see the McDepends camp still try to claim that Obama is "inexperienced"...........
August 29th, 2008 at 11:27 amMcCain's pick is all about vanity, not governing.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:27 amDaleW Says:
And Palin’s infant son is a drawback for the VP post.
Typical. A challenged child is a liability, not a joy. Should Gov. Palin aborted the baby instead?
Gee it's not much of liability for her if she will be VP. Or will she be breast feeding while doing press conferences?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amamazing how proud wingnuts are about their desire to have BIG GOVT control the wombs of women
August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amg_g8: Governor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month.
So that's why Dick Cheney sucks as VP! All he had were five deferments and a lesbian daughter.
I think is hinting that the current system of selecting candidates for high office should be replaced by the "Queen for A Day" TV show of the 1950s where contestants competed for appliances by telling tales of personal woe.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amThat 72 year old man has a 96 year old mom still getting speeding tickets :-)
August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amdandbrew Says: Don’t worry, under socialized medicine, the wait will only be 3 times longer…. 0h, I can’t wait for the day…
Then why does our fascist health care system rank 37 beneath all those other social health care systems, considering the WHO takes 'wait time' and 'patient opinion' into consideration?
Then perhaps you can explain to me why, if socialized healthare is so bad, that Bush and the Republicans in Congress who have it havent rejected it and bought tehir own private polcies instead? Hmmm?
Your lie is simply not logical.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amApples and Oranges. Chelsea was about 20 when Mrs. C ran for office. That's a bit different than a developmentally disabled newborn.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:29 amNo, I'm against it because it's the willful taking of a life.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:29 amdandbrew Says:
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amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Amazing how "pro-lifers" are always okay with wars that kill all ages..........
August 29th, 2008 at 11:29 amdandbrew Says:
amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
Amazing how ignorant Republicans are.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amIt's amazing how proud Wingnuts are of their stupidity.
"There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth!"
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amso he comes from a long line of scofflaws? no wonder he has no problem breaking his own campaign finance laws
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amRantingTommy Says:
amazing how proud wingnuts are about their desire
to have BIG GOVT control the wombs of women
It's not about control of a womb, it's about killing babies.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amDaleW Says:
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DaleW Says: so everyone against abortion is against it because of the bible? pretty broad brush, isn’t it?
No. There are a handful of you who are against it because you are self-centered, anti-woman, and ignorant.
No, I’m against it because it’s the willful taking of a life.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Like when you illegally (and stupidly) invade a sovereign nation without provocation or cause , dummy ?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amNo, I’m against it because it’s the willful taking of a life.
So you were against the occupation of Iraq?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 amdandbrew Says:
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amazing how proud wingnuts are about their desire
to have BIG GOVT control the wombs of women
It’s not about control of a womb, it’s about killing babies.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
A fetus is not a baby ; it's a guppy............
August 29th, 2008 at 11:31 amdandbrew Says:
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RantingTommy Says:
amazing how proud wingnuts are about their desire
to have BIG GOVT control the wombs of women
It’s not about control of a womb, it’s about killing babies.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
A fetus is not a baby ; it's a guppy............
August 29th, 2008 at 11:31 amJust shows how far down the list he had to go to find someone with a clean record...but wait, she's under investigation! Pro-life beauty (?) queens are just the ticket to attract serious minded Hillary supporters...but she will drill, drill, drill and save the country.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 amSorry about the double-post , folks.............Mea Culpa
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 amyou have no problem killing the fathers and mothers of those babies
not to mention, your party has killed more LIVE babies in Iraq than all the POTENTIAL babies that have been aborted in the US
you big govt republican whiners are such sissies
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 amI'm against the idea of having Saddam still in power... I was there when the Iraqis had their first real election.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 amunbelievable Says
August 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
How is she going to take care of an infant and be the VP? That’s just selfish and irresponsible to except such a demanding rule when you have a newborn baby.
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That's an unusually sexist statement coming from you -- are you namejacking "unbelievable", a poster who normally gives us brilliant posts?
Nobody would ever say such a thing if Palin was a man with a newborn baby (remember JFK had a brand new son when he became president). Furthermore, Palin is dealing with raising her new baby while serving as governor of Alaska -- also a demanding job.
Let's debate the merits of Palin as a candidate fairly. Let's not hold women to different standards than men.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 amLet's do a pool:
How long before MyCane calls her a c*&t?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:33 amThis selection is so asinine it lends weight to the theory that the GOP is just tossing the election and hopes to regroup later. The only women stupid enough to let her gender influence their vote are 20%ers anyway. And some male 20%ers may be driven to a third party or just stay home.
She simply doesn't have the credentials to sway moderates and, as has been noted, her lack of credentials negates the most legitimate arguments against Obama's resume.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:33 amso you got rid of saddam to hand Iraq to al queda?
wow, you're not very bright
August 29th, 2008 at 11:34 amThis smacks a bit of desperation to me. McCain is going for big headlines today to distract from Obama's generation defining speech and his own 72nd birthday. It is a bold choice for VP, but possibly too bold. Once the weekend news cycle is over I wonder if the McCain people will still feel good about the choice.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:34 amRantingTommy,
I'll die fighting for your perverted rights.
Not like abortion will go away when a female governor is VP.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:34 amdandbrew Says: amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
It isn't a baby until you have it (hence "having a baby").
75% of all conceptions end in spontaneous abortion. I'm amazed by the frenzy you nut jobs have over humans inducting another 5% (most abortions are performed when the embryo is without any ability for conciousness or feelings of pain because it lacks a nervous system).
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amgood_golly8 Says:
Governor Palin has a compelling personal story, having given birth in April to a son, her fifth child, who has Down syndrome. Another son is in the Army and is to deploy to Iraq next month.
I'm sorry, how does giving birth to a child with an unfortunate genetic defect make her qualified in any way to be next in line to the presidency?
And there are literally millions of families who can say they have a son or daughter going to Iraq, in Iraq, or just returned from Iraq. Doesn't make they qualified to be POTUS either.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amFan of Man Says:
WHO?
I think McCain asked the very same question this morning when Karl Rove told him who his VP pick would be.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amHow could she support drilling when she's from Alaska? I don't get it.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amthen get to it, die for my rights already
my right to be free from a repressive religious government is the first one
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amWasserman-Schultz just ripped into Palin.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 amAll the cries McCain camp made over Obama being 'unfit' to be Commander In Chief will go now in smoke.
This woman will be Commander In Chief if something happens to the 72-73 years old McCain.
How can this woman be Commander In chief and Obama can't ?!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:36 amdandbrew Says:
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I’m against the idea of having Saddam still in power… I was there when the Iraqis had their first real election.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am
And I was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll..........
BTW
Since when do your emotions/feelings , usurp everything ?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:36 amDaleW Says:
"Should Gov. Palin aborted the baby instead?"
That's her CHOICE!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amdandbrew Says: Don’t worry, under socialized medicine, the wait will only be 3 times longer…. 0h, I can’t wait for the day…
Under the US system I've either had to wait to save-up money to pay for treatment or work whilst injured to pay off emergency treatment.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amI grew up with universal healthcare in the UK. My brother had open heart surgery and it didn't cost any more than the ordinary regular wage contribution paid into the system. Injuries like a broken bone would usually be treated with a house-call at no additional expense.
You don't know what the f--k you are talking about.
DaleW Says:
And Palin’s infant son is a drawback for the VP post.
Typical. A challenged child is a liability, not a joy.
- - Challenged or normal, isn't the point. It may be a PERSONAL joy but we're talking about a much larger issue than Palin's personal joy. You conservatives should be more concerned about a mother not being able to give her FIVE children the time with her they deserve.
Geeze.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amRantingTommy Says:
my right to be free from a repressive religious government is the first one
the separation of church and state doesn't mean religous people can't be in politics
You're a dumb ass.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amLet me sum this up.
McCain says Obama shouldn't be President because he doesn't have enough experience.
Then McCain, who is more likely to die in office than most Presidents because of his age, picks somebody with less experience than Obama to succeed him if he dies.
Therefore McCain doesn't even believe the experience argument he is making against Obama.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amDaleW Says: No, I’m against it because it’s the willful taking of a life.
So was the chicken, cow and/or pig you had for dinner last night.
Hypocrite.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amWas that Lieberman advice..?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amright wingers are such sissies
so scared of gays, brown ppl, black ppl, smart ppl, female ppl
scared of their own shadow
what a bunch of cowards
August 29th, 2008 at 11:38 amUPDATE II: This morning on Fox News, McCain spokeswoman Nancy Pfotenhauer was asked about the relationship between McCain and Palin. “How well do they know one another?” host Bill Hemmer asked. Pfotenhauer said:
Then why are they sending out a spokesperson for the McCain campaign who doesn't know how well McCain knows his running mate? Even if they didn't know who he would ultimately pick, they should have been briefed on basics such as this, so they could be ready to talk about whomever the pick was. If the rest of McCain's campaign is run this smoothly, he can forget about packing his things to move into yet another home (his, what, eighth? thirteenth?)
August 29th, 2008 at 11:38 amYou can't have two kings! you can't love a beautiful land like Alaska with all its forests and crap and want to favor drilling at the same time! oh, but then again she is a so-called feminist pro-lifer.. Is that as oxymoron?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:38 amdandbrew Says:
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RantingTommy,
I’ll die fighting for your perverted rights.
Not like abortion will go away when a female governor is VP.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
The day I need your stupid mary weasel ass to fight for me , is the day I'm finally as old , stupid and senile as McDepends currently is.............
August 29th, 2008 at 11:38 amhey sissy, i didn't say it prevented "religous" people from govt
i DO have the right to NOT have your hokey religious views forced on my by the govt
its in the CONSTITUTION - soon to be restored by President Obama
get used to it, sissy
August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 am"Repressive religious government" is just exactly the card that the GOP has played for the last 25+ years. All of the high profile evangelists are political creatures and not religious figures.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 amdandbrew Says:
"I’m against the idea of having Saddam still in power… I was there when the Iraqis had their first real election."
I'm against the idea of having Bush still in power. I was there when the SOTUS appointed him president.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 amdandbrew Says:
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RantingTommy Says:
my right to be free from a repressive religious government is the first one
the separation of church and state doesn’t mean religous people can’t be in politics
You’re a dumb ass.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:37 am
You , of course , being a Constitutional scholar and all , know this .............How ?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:41 amThis nomination is really "pail'in." Couldn't they find Dan Quayle at the 19th hole somewhere?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 amoh, yeah! he has seven houses! I wonder what that makes his carbon footprint amount to.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 ammisshusseinmolly Says: Nobody would ever say such a thing if Palin was a man with a newborn baby (remember JFK had a brand new son when he became president). Furthermore, Palin is dealing with raising her new baby while serving as governor of Alaska — also a demanding job.
Actually, I would have said the same thing if it were a man, but let's face it, in Conservative families, men don't do any caring for the chilren, so this will fall to her.
I would have had the same issue with anyone with an infant taking such a powerful position. If you aren't going to raise your baby, then don't have it.
My post was not sexist, it was honest.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 amhe doesnt know much at all, hence his Republican affiliation
his fear is bred by his overweening ignorance
August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 amWonder who takes care of her, now 5, children? And I think I read that this most recent child has special needs.
But aside from my thoughts as a mother....
Wow...this woman thinks beliefs are science and should be taught in public schools under the heading of science.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:43 amdandbrew Says:
That 72 year old man has a 96 year old mom still getting speeding tickets :-)
So an old man with a really old mother who enjoys breaking the law is seen as a plus in GOLland?
Pull her license. She's clearly too old to drive!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 11:43 amThe new GOP response to any attacks on Palin will be:
How DARE you attack the mother of a child with Downs Syndrome?
-GSD
August 29th, 2008 at 11:43 amShe can make babies, she was against a bridge to nowhere, she can shoot....brilliant! How tall is she? can she dribble? Will she run barefooted?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:43 amThe only thing that comes to mind when I consider Alaskan politicians (aside from comedic references to our "series of toobz") is "agents of BIG OIL".
Good luck to the GOP with this pick.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amLOL, maybe McBush has just picked his next wife. Cindy is getting a little old you know and he does not get any of her money anyway because of the pre-nup, so.....
McBush has screwed himself.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amShe's just another dumb talking head and aaaaall the country will fall for the gleam in her eye! I'm am sooo sick of the stupidity in our Nation
August 29th, 2008 at 11:45 amShe didn't fire her brother in-law, she fired his boss for not firing him. That's not the same thing. And the guy she replaced him with quit because of a sexual harassment scandal.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:45 amdandbrew Says:
"That 72 year old man has a 96 year old mom still getting speeding tickets :-)"
Maybe so, troll but don't forget that his father AND his grandfather were allready long dead BEFORE the ripe old age of 72.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:46 amcan she dribble?
Apparently yes! She was on some Basketball team. Hope she doesn't think she is on the Dream Team!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:46 amMiss Molly,
That is because the Religious Right has spent 40 years blaming America's ills on the equality of women and the entry of women into the workforce.
Suck it up, it's coming back in your face.
I mean, really, shouldn't Sarah Palin be taking care of her children and not running around in pantsuits like Hillary Clinton?
-GSD
August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 amWayne A. Schneider Says:
UPDATE II: This morning on Fox News, McCain spokeswoman Nancy Pfotenhauer was asked about the relationship between McCain and Palin. “How well do they know one another?” host Bill Hemmer asked. Pfotenhauer said:
You’re running flat into the wall of my ignorance here, Bill. I truly have no indication whatsoever the extent of a relationship that exists with the Governor of Alaska.
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Kind of says it all, huh, Wayne?
One of McStain's own spokepersons has no idea what's going on here.
Bridge to Nowhere, indeed!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 amIs it not, also, odd that the GOP would pick a VP who's main credential is being "pro-life" only a week after 80 innocent civilians were killed in air-strikes?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:48 amWell, it sounds okay now. NOT! Actually that sounds a lot worse than firing her brother-in-law.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:49 amHey GOP/Chimpy sycophants.
Can any of you explain to me how it is that you and the rest of your idiotic GOP brethren are exulting over a "fiscal cancervative" as you VP candidate , when she is going to have to back McDepends' tax plan that gives even further tax breaks to the wealthy than even Chimpy McFlightsuit's horrendous economic plan ......????????
August 29th, 2008 at 11:49 amthere is NOTHING pro-life about being anti-choice!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:49 amThis will get the fundies praying their little hearts out for long life and health for St John of POW.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:50 amJust another example of McCain's judgment. He's older than dirt, could kick any day and she hasn't an ounce of experience. Made my day.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:50 amPalin is already being painted as "tough as nails" by the so-called liberal media. I can't wait to see her face the white hot lights she is about to be exposed to. My guess is that she'll be way out of her depth. She is a virtual unknown and has never been scrutinzied in the lower 48.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:51 amI truly have no indication whatsoever the extent of a relationship that exists with the Governor of Alaska.
Just think Frank and Hotlips.
"But I can't leave my wife! All the property is in her name!"
August 29th, 2008 at 11:51 amHillary was the president's wife at that time she wasn't running for office. This woman has an infant with a disability and instead of worrying about him she's worrying about herself. Family values my a$$.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 amHer husband works for BP, yep British Petroleum.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 amSeems you guys whine about conservatives hating fags, blacks, asians, women, etc., etc, etc...
you guys want to kill old people and babies and call those brave enough to kick ass in the military/police/FD names like "sissy".
August 29th, 2008 at 11:53 amConcernedParent Says:
well its true mccain has always had a thing for young women.
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I can't wait to see GOOP campaign ads featuring McStain w/ Cindy on one arm and his VEEP on the other... will they start calling him The Mac Daddy?
Perhaps both Cindy and Palin can make this sacrifice for their country:
"Miss Buffalo Chip isn't a beauty contest in the traditional sense — it's a relatively debauched topless (and sometimes bottomless) multiday contest where women dance, jiggle and reportedly even perform blow jobs on bananas for the titillation of the spectators. And John McCain offered up his 54-year-old wife as a contestant."
August 29th, 2008 at 11:53 amTrolls, you forget about McSame's dementia. He'll forget all about this rally 10 mins after it ends and pick Romney as veep. McCain can't make a decision with flip-flopping, how is this time any different?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:54 amdandbrew Says:
Seems you guys whine about conservatives hating fags, blacks, asians, women, etc., etc, etc…
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Translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaah... Waaaaaaaaaaah... Waaaaaaaaaah...
August 29th, 2008 at 11:55 amdanbrew, I think they're only calling you a sissy, if I'm reading correctly.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:55 amNo, killing babies, like all those dead in Iraq by design or neglect, is what you neocons love best.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:56 amj swift Says:
LOL, maybe McBush has just picked his next wife. Cindy is getting a little old you know and he does not get any of her money anyway because of the pre-nup, so…..
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Saaaaaaaaaay.. this might make a great sit-com!!!
"They're just not husband and wife... they're the POTUS and VEEP! Stay tuned for the next side-splitting episode of "Goldie and the Oldie"... coming up on Fox!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 11:58 amHis mother doesn't have malignant melanoma or PTSD.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm"Among other things, she supports drilling in Alaska, with limits, she’s pro-life and she’s a fiscal conservative. … Plus, Palin’s too stoopid to realize she is being used by the reich wing."
August 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pmShe can join Kennedy at the cancer ward and kick his ass.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pmI call you a sissy because you support policies that only a sissy would support.
You prove how easily terrorized you are by falling for the terrorism of the Bush Admin.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pmPalin's seems to have implied that she has some added insight on energy because her husband works for BP. The guy works for BP when it's not fishing season.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pmdandbrew Says:
Seems you guys whine about conservatives hating fags, blacks, asians, women, etc., etc, etc…
you guys want to kill old people and babies and call those brave enough to kick ass in the military/police/FD names like “sissy”.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am
First of all, we aren't the ones who call gay people "fags". (Maybe some gay people do, but that's up to them.)
And second, there's a world of difference between a "baby" and an "embryo". Pregnant women don't say "I have a baby", they say, "I'm going to have a baby." It's generally not considered a baby (by intelligent people) until it is actually born.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm#113 DaleW says:
No, I’m against it because it’s the willful taking of a life.
So you are against the war?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pmdanbrew is just another whining right wing sissy
his schtick is boring and predictable
terrorism only works on the terrified, which is why right wing sissies are so easily manipulated by the fear mongers they vote for
August 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pmDavidHart Says:
Palin’s seems to have implied that she has some added insight on energy because her husband works for BP. The guy works for BP when it’s not fishing season.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I believe I read that her husband took a leave of absence from his job in order to avoid charges of "conflict of interest". Of course, taking a leave of absence means he will still have a job with them when she is no longer governor, so I don't see that as completely absolving her of "conflict of interest" charges. Benefitting BP would still benefit her husband. Just not while she's governor.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pmLeave it to the Republicans to dig down far enough to find a woman that is anti-woman.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pmshe's just another shill for big oil
she's not pro-life, she's pro-war
she's anti-choice when it comes to womens' rights
August 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pmI applaud the decision to select a woman as McCain's VP candidate. I think it's very progressive and forward-thinking... just like I did when the Democrats did it first... 24 years ago!!!
Republicans.... day late and a dollar short. Trust them to find a book of matches and claim they discovered fire.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pmConservatives are such mindless followers. They don't formulate their own opinions, they are told what to think and how to react. When their ignorant points are challenged with factual counterpoints, they're screwed. They can't debate facts so they resort to "well Kenedy has cancer" or some stupid bullship.
Stop listening to Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al. They don't debate, they pontificate.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIn addition to their ridiculous VP choice, has the Flippy McSpin campaign been reduced to recruiting trolls from the ranks of the Freepers? This last batch has that sad, desperate, vapid, quality they seem to exhibit.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pmA 43 year old egg is not fresh and statistically speaking, more prone to Down's Syndrome. The anti-birth control zealots need to learn about oral sex and stop being so damn selfish.
I agree with the posters here that she is the last man standing. How many "No thank you"'s did McSame hear before someone said they were willing to strap themselves in the deck chair of that sinking ship?
Romney doesn't want to be associated with a campaign that gets its ass handed to it in the fall.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pmTonyC Says:
Republicans…. day late and a dollar short.
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Uh, wouldn't that be more like a quarter century late and several trillion dollars short?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pmMcNumbNuts is taking Limpballs off the hook this morning. He has timed his VP mistake to coincide with the start of his daily rant-fest so that Limpballs doesn't have to talk about Obama's grand slam home run.
Limpballs would only make a fool of himself if he had nothing to talk about other than Obama's speech today. What am I saying . . . Limpballs makes a fool of himself each and every day.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pmyea, let's spend trillions instead on paying for free abortions...
August 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pmYes, much worse, that's why Alaska is spending $100,000 to investigate her.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pmdandbrew Says:
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yea, let’s spend trillions instead on paying for free abortions…
August 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Nah
Let's spend it on destroying and trying to rebuild a nation that's 90% fu(king sand , and on tax cuts for the already welfare ; you're a moron...........
August 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pmoooh, I have another idea for spending tax payer's billions of dollars:
let's pay for AIDS treatment because gays are freaking perverts!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pmSorry
My post should read "on tax cuts for the wealthy while cutting welfare".......
August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pmdandbrew Says:
She can join Kennedy at the cancer ward and kick his ass.
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Drop dead. I mean this sincerely.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pmBring it on McWars... You want my address?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pmtoomanybrews Says:
"oooh, I have another idea for spending tax payer’s billions of dollars:
let’s pay for AIDS treatment because gays are freaking perverts!"
ignorance is bliss.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pmignorance is bliss... that's why you call them "gays"
August 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pmdandbrew Says:
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oooh, I have another idea for spending tax payer’s billions of dollars:
let’s pay for AIDS treatment because gays are freaking perverts!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Makes more sense to spend taxpayer $'s on McDepends to receive Viagra and get a shriveled boner ?
How is he even gonna' have sex when he can't even wrap his arms around a woman ......?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pmdandbrew Says:
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Bring it on McWars… You want my address?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I'll be your huckleberry.........
August 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pmSo danddbrew. You hate abortion and it's the most important issue in the world. We get it. You've said your piece now move on.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pmMcMetal, McWars, such cool names.....
August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pmdandbrew Says:
yea, let’s spend trillions instead on paying for free abortions…
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I'm sure your mother would have loved to see that idea go into effect.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pmdandbrew is the GOP base. It's all about education or a lack thereof. Sad what has happened to this once great nation.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pmdandbrew Says:
ignorance is bliss… that’s why you call them “gays”
August 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Nope. I call "them" people.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pmI think dandbrew's mother did have an abortion.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pmIn dandbrew's defense, it must be very frustrating to have a dozen informed citizens run intellectual rings around you. How embarassing.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pmdandbrew Says:
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Bring it on McWars… You want my address?
I already know -- 1040 Uncannyhick Drive Trailer #A
August 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pmWhat else could McGrampy do? He/They picked her for three reasons:
1) You can't attack her record... she doesn't have one (even though with her limited time in office she's *already* under investigation)
2) She looks good on camera
3) She's a woman.
It kills me, the pundits IMMEDIATELY say "oh Biden is going to have to go easy on her because she's a woman" WTF? Here they go an about equal rights for women and equal pay, but you have to go easy on her because she's a woman? If she is going to play on the world stage she better be ready to take the heat as a world leader, and she should be treated the same as any other candidate for this position.
As far as #3 goes above, it's obviously to appeal to the Clinton vote, only McSame shows his judgement once again by picking someone who is the polar opposite of Clinton's values. He could have picked any number of women from the party with vastly more experience and credentials... but they all have a record that can be attacked and, as I said before, she looks good on camera. Even after all the BS we've put up with over the last eight years and the nonsense that continues to spout from McBush he STILL managed to surprise and disappoint me with such a lack of judgment as this. Heh, I just thought of something though, maybe all the qualified women said no...
Obviously nobody knows enough about her at this point to make a good judgment on her character and abilities -- but I think thats the republicans strategy. Look, I'm a maverick, I can pick an unknown woman that fits the most conservative values of our party. A little too much Jimson weed there Maverick.
Lastly, you in the press, quit talking about how having five children makes her qualified to be president or legislate a woman's right to choose. Having a house full of children isn't a qualifier for public office.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pmHey troll. Did you know your girl Palin vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to gay state employees?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pmLet's face it, nobody in Alaska that holds office is free from the grip of big oil. Find the ties and hammer it home.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pmShe wants "safe communities". The idiot has probably never been to a big city in her life. She hasn't even been to Washington. How would she know what life is like in most of the communities in the lower 48.
But the genius McCain locked up all THREE of Alaska's electoral votes.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pmdandbrew Says:
McMetal, McWars, such cool names…..
We know. Come back for your wedgie on November 5, mmk? Or will you be too consumed mourning?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pmdandbrew Says:
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McMetal, McWars, such cool names…..
August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Claims someone that calls himself "dandbrew" ; McDepends and his empty headed wife are so proud of you........
August 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pmdandbrew Says:
"Bring it on McWars… You want my address?"
Brilliant.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pmYeah, and be sure to include your SSN and a credit number with the exp date. Just for verification purposes. No, really!
They want to put this one hairdo hick one heartbeat away from the presidency. Are they kidding?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pmNice screechy voice too. And they called Hillary "shrill". And first thing she's introducing her family.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pmWell, I have to say one thing for Palin. She is a perfect match for McNumbNuts. He is road-kill; she is a deer caught in the headlights.
Actually, she resembles GDumbya. Both of them are fence post turtles. They both found themselves in a place where they don't belong; they don't know how they got there; and they have no idea of how to get down.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
As if this neophyte isn't weak enough ; Palin is a friggin CREATIONIST ............
The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor's race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms.
Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, 'Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."
LOL.......This twit is gonna' help McDepends win what ?
Loser of the Year ?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pmPalin will certainly "solidify the base of the party".
There's a big split in the party right now -- some of them are embarrassed about McNumbNuts nomination; some aren't.
Palin will bring them all together. Now they will all be embarrassed.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pmDid they just play 'The Last Starfighter' theme to introduce her?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pmIt sure sounded like it...
They're going to compare Obama's inexperience as first in his class and editor of the Harvard Law Review to this PTA mom who entered politics to keep her taxes low.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pmIsn’t she still under investigation?
You can bet that now the investigation will be sweep under the rug very quickly.
Repukes like unethical criminals, makes them feel all warm and fuzzy.
Dan Quayle in drag.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pmSince when? Abortion it legal, killing a baby is illegal. Don't let facts cloud your perverse and vile existence.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pmShayne Says:
I think dandbrew’s mother did have an abortion.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
How does he think with that coat hanger sticking out of his head?
August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pmWhat in the hell is McDepends gonna' do now ?
When he mentions POW , he's gonna' confuse himself between his Prisoner of War history and the Princess of Wasilla he just chose as his running mate ; he better start doubling up on the Depends ........
August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pmObviously he doesn't think. He just copies and pastes like every other dittohead.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pmHer infant son has autism. According to the reich-wingers, autism is a fake disease and a scam and Palin is just milking the medical system.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pmKnowing McCain it's her flute playing that got her the job.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pmHer son has down's syndrome. Apparently though somebody else will have to take care of his special needs. She's too busy.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pmI think she is articulate, nice looking family and husband but another Republican breeder!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:44 pmI don't care if she is mother Theresa, she is a republican!!! I am sick of them!
It looks like her other children are having to care for the baby.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:44 pmdandbrew Says:
yea, let’s spend trillions instead on paying for free abortions…
August 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Hmmm, maybe McMetal's right, your brain IS the densest substance known to man. Reminds me of the old joke about someone explaining to a young man how to go about having sex with a woman: "you stick the hardest part of your body into where she pees"; later the young man is found with head injuries from trying to stick his head in the toilet.
That joke must have been 'based on a true story' about dandbrew.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:44 pmThanx for the post re. creationism, MCMetal. I was wondering if she had fundy cred beyond her abortion stance. Come to think of it, she does have a bit of that wide-eyed Michele Bachmann look.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pmWhen and where has anyone spent trillions on abortions?
We'll wait for an answer...
August 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pmDo you think this twit could find Iraq or Washington, D.C., on a map?
If I didn't know better, I would swear that Michelle Bachmann dyed her hair and moved to Alaska.
I can hardly wait for America to get to know her. It's going to be a cakewalk, my friends . . . for Obama and Biden.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pmbelac Says:
Did they just play ‘The Last Starfighter’ theme to introduce her?
It sure sounded like it…
August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Damn! I liked that movie!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pmtom Says:
Palin will bring them all together. Now they will all be embarrassed.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pm__________
Once again, GOOP is proves its a uniter...
McViagra/Milf '08 is gonna' be their campaign slogan..........
August 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pmtom Says:
"I can hardly wait for America to get to know her. It’s going to be a cakewalk, my friends . . . for Obama and Biden."
wish i was as confident as you. america gave numbnuts a second term.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pmDan Quayle in drag.
How true.
Reminds me of the true story that the CIA had an island with a golf course staked out so that, if anything happened to Poppy Bu$h during his presidency, they could wisk Danny Boy out of the country and take him out of the presidential succession line-up.
In the highly unlikely and extremely remote event that McNumbNuts actually steals the election, I wonder where in the world the FBI plans to "rendition" her to.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pmdandbrew, you are one neuron short of a synapse, cupcake.
You throw around “trillions” the same way your hero, GDumbya, does. That’s not very conservative of you.
What part of “abortions should be legal, safe and rare” don’t you understand? Did you know that abortions have actually increased during the GDumbya/Darth Cheney regime?
Take your little troll act somewhere it will be appreciated. I would suggest a brain-dead ditto-head chat room might be a good choice for you.
See ya . . . wouldn’t want to be ya.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pmgood_golly8 Says:
Excellent speech, Governor Palin. I can’t wait to watch this convention. 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling for Hillary, and 65 million to come for Sarah.
Your hiding your disappointment of the McCain/Palin ticket rather well.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pmI want what goony's on. Must be good stuff!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pmI can’t wait to watch this convention.
You and I can agree on this, Gigi... I can't WAIT to see this convention! I can't wait to see the DEBATES!
August 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI can't wait for NOVEMBER! Things look good for Obama/Biden and the country!
wikipedia
Sarah Palin
Religion Christian: Assemblies of God
Hmmm! A very conservative group of Christians.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pmdandbrew, Please take the ben wah balls out of your ass and pay attention, you're drifting out of focus.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pmgood_golly8 Says:
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Excellent speech, Governor Palin. I can’t wait to watch this convention. 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling for Hillary, and 65 million to come for Sarah.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
66% of all Americans agree with Roe vs Wade ; your math is a bit off , delusional wonder.........
August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pmbitblt Says:
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wikipedia
Sarah Palin
Religion Christian: Assemblies of God
Hmmm! A very conservative group of Christians.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Translation - A group of gullible morons
August 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmHope such TP stalwarts as Daryll note the incredible irony of a female candidate, potentially a female VP, being a heart-beat away from the Presidency. Truly the Creator does work in mysterious ways! This election is quickly becoming at vote for the culture of Life – natural marriage and ProLife – or a vote for the culture of Death – same-same sexual expression and abortion.
And the first female President could possibly be the mother of five.
bit never expected to vote for a female President, but he will.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pmdandbrew Says,
amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
Only if we can eat them, too! I make quite the tantalizing sauce to bring out the tenderness... moron.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pmnote the incredible irony of a female candidate, potentially a female VP, being a heart-beat away from the Presidency
How exactly is this ironic?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmLet alone incredibly ironic?
Everyone with half a brain realised long ago that a woman could and someday will be President of the United States... of course, the fact that you guys still find this shocking and new speaks volumes...
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
dandbrew Says:
yea, let’s spend trillions instead on paying for free abortions…
When and where has anyone spent trillions on abortions?
We’ll wait for an answer…
August 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
dandbrew, we're still waiting for your answer. (crickets)
I think he went off for his nap.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pmdandbrew Says:
amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
Nope. It's about the right of a woman for the privacy to make a private medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pmbelac Says:
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How exactly is this ironic?
Let alone incredibly ironic?
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August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
The irony, the incredible irony, which bit thought he made clear in the rest of the post, is that the first female President could be a ProLife mama of five.
Not what you would have guessed, or wanted, two or three months ago, is it?
bit was suggesting nothing about the ability of a woman to be President.
Nonetheless, bit wasn't voting for BHO simply because NARAL gives a 100% score. bit is a single issue voter.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pmLibertyLover Says:
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Nope. It’s about the right of a woman for the privacy to make a private medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God.
If the decision is a "pivate medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God" at the time of the abortion, what kind of decision is it at the time of conception?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pmbitblt Says:
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How exactly is this ironic?
Let alone incredibly ironic?
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August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
The irony, the incredible irony, which bit thought he made clear in the rest of the post, is that the first female President could be a ProLife mama of five.
Not what you would have guessed, or wanted, two or three months ago, is it?
bit was suggesting nothing about the ability of a woman to be President.
Nonetheless, bit wasn’t voting for BHO simply because NARAL gives a 100% score. bit is a single issue voter.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Someone who posts in a 3rd person format , is more like a single cell amoeba , when it comes to intelligence ; and your single issue vote just crystalizes and cements that.......
August 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pmbitblt Says:
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Nope. It’s about the right of a woman for the privacy to make a private medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God.
If the decision is a “pivate medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God” at the time of the abortion, what kind of decision is it at the time of conception?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
One of passion ; something a backwards-ass , ana l retentive rube like yourself will never understand nor experience......
August 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pmMCMetal Says:
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August 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
One of passion [2]; something a backwards-ass , ana l retentive rube like yourself will never understand nor experience……
August 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
bit's father, a very responsible man, made sure that bit understood that he - bit - would be a Daddy to anything he - bit - fathered. He - bit's father - impressed this on bit's young mind with a high degree of passion [1].
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/passion
[1] Definition 4b
[2] Definition 5c
bit takes it that McM has never been the recipient of this type of training or is incapable of responding to said training. Well, it does take some a certain degree of firmness to make a responsible man.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pmbit was suggesting nothing about the ability of a woman to be President.
No, bit only suggested that bit never expected to vote for a woman...
bit never expected to vote for a female President, but he will.
Bit is a dinosaur, who finds supporting a woman shocking.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pmBit will soon be extinct, but bit will have Palin, McCain and the rest of the Republican party to keep Bit company as they discuss their single issue in obscurity...
Pro life
Belief in creationism
Favors drilling and is aligned to big oil
Under investigation
Well, she has the GOP "qualifications". Only issue is how can this campaign sell being agents of change?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pmoctamethyl thinks those who speak about themselves in the third person (bitblt) are mongoloid idiots
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmbitblt, have you never had zygotes and cream cheese on garlic toast for breakfast? A touch of chives, a dash of fresh pepper? Where in the Constitution that your God Bush says is just a goddamn piece of paper transfers a woman’s right to her body to you religious freaks?
Have a good day. Don’t forget the chives.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pmoctamethyl Says:
octamethyl thinks those who speak about themselves in the third person (bitblt) are mongoloid idiots
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Are you making fun of Governor Palin's fifth child?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:29 pmThe irony, the incredible irony, which bit thought he made clear in the rest of the post, is that the first female President could be a ProLife mama of five.
So bit's argument is that it is ironic that the first woman vice president could be anti-woman in her political outlook?
August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pmbelac is convinced- it is IRONIC that Palin, as a woman, would be so anti-woman- belac is graeful to bit for pointing this out.
Bunny~
August 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pmHow's the neighbor's lawn looking?
Are you moving to Alaska! Or just an expert in Special Needs Care?
belac Says:
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So bit’s argument is that it is ironic that the first woman vice president could be anti-woman in her political outlook?
belac is convinced- it is IRONIC that Palin, as a woman, would be so anti-woman- belac is graeful to bit for pointing this out.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
You, apparently very conveniently, left out a big step in you logic.
bit doesn't believe having five children would qualify a woman to be describe as "anti-woman." Further, bit also doesn't believe overturning Roe v Wade would be described as anti-woman.
Seems to bit this "anti-woman" phrase would be used by irresponsible men to coerce a woman into having an abortion.
"If they don't let you get an abortion, they're anti-woman," the irresponsible man says, and thus, he avoids responsibility for his actions by declaring that having an abortion is the "right" of his impregnated partner.
How many women have had abortions because a boyfriend or a husband threatened to abandon them if they didn't abort their unborn child? Would you call that "anti-woman?" bit would.
Men have more ways "to get over" on women than can be counted.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pmAbortion is just another one of those ways.
Nine of out of ten psychiatrists agree - referring to yourself in the third person is a sign of mental instability.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pmAhh, but is bit a woman?
August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pmIs bit a doctor?
Is bit qualified to make any kind of medical decision?
belac is a father and made the decision with belac's girlfriend to not have an abortion... but belac would never force a woman to do anything.
belac wonders how many women died because a boyfriend or a husband forced a woman to have an abortion when it was illegal.
belac believes the number was unacceptably high.
belac wonders how many women would die if bit had his way and abortion was banned.
belac believes the number would be unnacceptably high.
belac sees many ireesponsible men refusing to take responsibilty for their actions.
belac believes that most of them are in the Republican party...
oh! This should be great:) A woman that doesn't CARE about women! Square that one! Just a transparent ploy on the part of McCain to try and pick up some women's votes...does she know about his debasing of women? If she does, then she mustn't care about women herself.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pmDoesn't look like the stock market is jumping up and down for this fiscal conservative. Every Alaskan get about $1000. a year from an oil agreement. Will Sarah the Saver get the same for the rest of us? Can't wait for her to show how she controls oil companies!
August 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmbelac Says:
Ahh, but is bit a woman?
Is bit a doctor?
Is bit qualified to make any kind of medical decision?
belac is a father and made the decision with belac’s girlfriend to not have an abortion… but belac would never force a woman to do anything.
belac wonders how many women died because a boyfriend or a husband forced a woman to have an abortion when it was illegal.
belac believes the number was unacceptably high.
belac wonders how many women would die if bit had his way and abortion was banned.
belac believes the number would be unnacceptably high.
belac sees many ireesponsible men refusing to take responsibilty for their actions.
belac believes that most of them are in the Republican party…
August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Why does, "belac believes the number was unacceptably high?"
Does belac believe lies about the number of women killed by illegal abortions before RvW? Most people do?
These lies were the justification for RvW.
http://www.tnrtl.org/human_life_issues/human_life_issues_abortion_lies_and_myths.htm
Best number from this article seems to be 250 deaths a year. Are 1,000,000+ abortions a year justified to save 250 lives a year?
August 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pmdoes belac believe numbers from the Tenn. Right to life website?
August 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pmno, belac is sceptical...
Great choice mcchimpy, another oil person on your ticket.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pmI love nasty! Right out of the Bill Clinton playbook.
Bunny~
August 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pmDid Katrina teach you this campaign style?
Perhaps you should debate with yourself... you do have all points of view at your disposal and debating with other people doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
Bunny2
Are you for real?
Telling the truth about mcchimpy isn't attacking him, you crazy bat. Unlike your old fool who lies about Sen. Obama.
I hope you have a nervous breakdown come 11/4 when Sen. Obama is chosen as our President.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pmwish i was as confident as you. america gave numbnuts a second term.
No, Ken Blackwell and Diebold did.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pmBunny2 Says:
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Her son has down's syndrome. Apparently though somebody else will have to take care of his special needs. She's too busy.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
It takes a village, right? Isn't that what Hillary taught you?
Oh please we are for Sen. Obama. Besides why would you leave your sick son in strangers hands?
mcchimpy sure like to use his women; cindy for money and now this ex-ex "beauty" queen for votes.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:48 pmPete thinks that bit would vote for The Great Satan if he put an (R) after his name and claimed he was born again.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm666lattes Says:
dandbrew Says,
amazing how proud Dems are about the right ti kill a baby.
Only if we can eat them, too! I make quite the tantalizing sauce to bring out the tenderness… moron.
You are the moron. It's a fetus not a baby.
You coathanger crazies want to control women's wombs for your pleasure.
repugs are good at destroying lives but leave that fetus alone.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pmNote to trolls: It's bad enough to base one's statements on erroneous presumptions but, when you simply lie, you damage your case even further.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pmbitblt Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
belac Says:
does belac believe numbers from the Tenn. Right to life website?
no, belac is sceptical…
August 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
bit has no doubt that belac will believe exactly what he wants.
One of the references from the
http://www.tnrtl.org/ human_life_issues/ human_life_issues_abortion_lies_and_myths.htm
Bernard Nathanson, M.D., Aborting America (New York: Doubleday, 1979), 193.
and an amazon review of this book.
http://www.amazon.com/ Aborting-America-Bernard-N-Nathanson/ dp/ 0919225004
August 29th, 2008 at 4:01 pmdbadass is confused by how bit thinks that others believe only that which they wish to while bit believes only that which bit wishes to believe
August 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pmPalin is an excellent choice for McCain.
She has more experience in Executive leadership than the democrats number one guy, Obama. She was already a mayor when Obama kicked off his political career at William Ayers house.
She represents real change, unlike Obama's choice in Biden who has been in politics since 1972 ... when Nixon was president.
She's a governor who has run a state ... unlike Obama or Biden. And 80+ percent of the population of her state have a favorable opinion of her.
She has a proven record of stamping out the good ol boy network and government corruption. Like the kind that persists in Chicago ... Obama's stomping grounds.
Hey, I can't even remember what Obama said in his speach last night. Looks like McCain/Palin has stolen the show :-)
August 29th, 2008 at 4:08 pmdbadass Says:
dbadass is confused by how bit thinks that others believe only that which they wish to while bit believes only that which bit wishes to believe
August 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
No you're not!
Everyone believes what they want to believe. It's just that there are various justifications used for the choice of belief. Justifications like religion or science or feelings or experiences or understanding of cultural traditions enlighten, and darken, everything people believe.
Of course dbadass knows this.
You probably need to look at the results of these beliefs.
Like culture of Life vs culture of Death.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:16 pmNewsflash! Based on three callers to an idiotic radio show, local psychochristians are dropping McSpin because Palin is a gggggggg girl.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:22 pm"Everyone believes what they want to believe."
Not true. Realists, or naturalists is you prefer, believe what the evidence dictates. Those who "believe what they want" are, to varying degrees, delusional.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:25 pmLike culture of Life vs culture of Death.
Yeah, tell that to the 1000 dead from Katrina, the West Virginia miners and rescuers who died because mineowners also own Republicans who refuse to mandate safety rules for mines; tell that to the thousands upon thousands of dead Iraqi citizens who had never lifted a hand against us; and tell that to the 4100+ dead American soldiers and the ones who still will die in Iraq simply because of Bush's ego.
Bitblt only values certain unborn American lives. Jane E. (Sechny) Schneider's parents taught her better than that.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:25 pmLike culture of Life vs culture of Death.
belac would be much more willing to buy the epic struggle of these two 'cultures' if the 'culture of life' side weren't so vocal about there support for the war and capital punishment...
August 29th, 2008 at 4:26 pmnot to mention their obsession with the crucifixtion and other, more modern, forms of torture...
belac likes the Quakers and Buddhists, they have a respect for life- much better than a 'culture of life'
So bit seems to suggest that belief is subjective yet at the same time implies that bit's subjective belief system somehow is superior to the subjective belief system of others. dbadass does not think bit is uneducated but wonders how bit can ignore this obvious conundrum
August 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm"Like culture of Life vs culture of Death."
Your "culture of life" has destroyed uncounted millions of lives and stifled the maturation of our species at the threshold of leaping into space. It's a culture of craven, unaccountable, dogs who don't dare admit there is anything beyond their understanding and, if not thwarted soon, could destroy life as we know it.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:34 pmpete Says:
“Everyone believes what they want to believe.”
Not true. Realists, or naturalists is you prefer, believe what the evidence dictates. Those who “believe what they want” are, to varying degrees, delusional.
What are you saying here?
Are you saying that naturalists don’t believe what they want to believe?
What they choose to believe is simply their epistemology.
One system of belief does not necessarily answer all the questions.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:35 pmdbadass Says:
So bit seems to suggest that belief is subjective yet at the same time implies that bit’s subjective belief system somehow is superior to the subjective belief system of others. dbadass does not think bit is uneducated but wonders how bit can ignore this obvious conundrum
August 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
The same way you do. bit doesn't ignore it. He works with it.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:37 pmFrom bit's most recently moderated post...
to belac
The culture of Death is a huge money maker in the US. From abortion to s a m e - s a m e marriage to Southern Decadence Festival ( A Celebration of G a y Life), people have figured out how to make money from irresponsible sexual behavior - the culture of Death.
So believe what you want.
If you didn’t marry the girlfriend, you should.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pmpete Says:
“Like culture of Life vs culture of Death.”
Your “culture of life” has destroyed uncounted millions of lives and stifled the maturation of our species at the threshold of leaping into space. It’s a culture of craven, unaccountable, dogs who don’t dare admit there is anything beyond their understanding and, if not thwarted soon, could destroy life as we know it.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Some of us Conservative Christians call this the deification of nature.
What do you call it?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:39 pmthew difference is that dbadass does not presume to know how others should conduct their lives nor judge them for living their lives as suits them. Dbadass has never condemned heterosexuals nor homosexuals, those who have had abortions nor those who have not.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:42 pm“Like culture of Life vs culture of Death.”
Where was your "culture of life" when the bombs started falling on the children of Islam? Where was it when the white phosphorus was raining on Fallujah? Where was it last week, when scores of Afghan children were killed based on an erroneous tip?
Fornicate your "culture of life"! Try joining the Civilized World in a culture of peace.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:43 pmpete Says:
“Like culture of Life vs culture of Death.”
Where was your “culture of life” when the bombs started falling on the children of Islam? Where was it when the white phosphorus was raining on Fallujah? Where was it last week, when scores of Afghan children were killed based on an erroneous tip?
Fornicate your “culture of life”! Try joining the Civilized World in a culture of peace.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
If you can make a connection between this and irresponsible sexual behavior, the subject about which bit has been posting, would you please do so.
bit just doesn't think personal responsibility is based on which political party is in power.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:50 pm"Some of us Conservative Christians call this the deification of nature.
What do you call it?"
Wow! That's obtuse. But I'll take a stab at an explanation.
What I would call it is "realism". I base my words, deeds, and decisions on observed, or reliably reported, events. The highest order of existence I acknowledge is natural. Since I have not experienced the supernatural, and it has not been reliably reported, I leave it entirely out of my consideration.
So, when you say "deification of nature" it's a null statement. "Deification" being a supernatural attribute is, by definition, unnatural.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:53 pmdbadass Says:
thew difference is that dbadass does not presume to know how others should conduct their lives nor judge them for living their lives as suits them. Dbadass has never condemned heterosexuals nor homosexuals, those who have had abortions nor those who have not.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
My impression is that dbadass can give good, ideal, advice. Is bit wrong? dbadass has no idea about the best way for people to live?
bit didn't discover the ideal way. He had to read about it in a book. You know, "..be doing unto others as you would have them do to you...thus fulfill all the laws and prophets..."
August 29th, 2008 at 4:53 pmAugust 29th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
The stae is prepared this time.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:56 pmYes, Republicans can't afford another Katrina in an election year... so they'll pay attention this time.
It won't help, though.
You wanted to blame the entire Katrina failures on Bush.
Not all of them, just FEMA's response- which was dismal... you wanted to blame everything on the State and Local governments- saying they should have handled it better. I pointed out that local and state bureaucracies are not equipped to handle major natural disasters- that is why we created FEMA...
pete wonders "why would there be any point in discussing the nuances of personal responsibility with someone who continually supports the criminal actions of a reckless, remorseless, gang of thugs who collectively have dodged any admission of responsibility for any of their disastrous actions"?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:56 pmNo, the subject about which bitblt has been posting is abortion. Bitblt seems to believe that if you're pro-choice you're pro-death. Does bitblt even stop to consider the idea that we're all anti-abortion, we just want to reduce abortions by preventative means other than making pregnant women and their doctors into criminals. Or would that hurt bitblt's brain?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:58 pmbit didn’t discover the ideal way. He had to read about it in a book. You know, “..be doing unto others as you would have them do to you…thus fulfill all the laws and prophets…”
August 29th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
pete didn't need to read it in a book, he was taught that that's how one should lead one's life. the first time he read that quote, at age 14, he said, "hey! they stole that from Confucius"!
August 29th, 2008 at 5:00 pmpete Says:
“Some of us Conservative Christians call this the deification of nature.
What do you call it?”
Wow! That’s obtuse. But I’ll take a stab at an explanation.
What I would call it is “realism”. I base my words, deeds, and decisions on observed, or reliably reported, events. The highest order of existence I acknowledge is natural. Since I have not experienced the supernatural, and it has not been reliably reported, I leave it entirely out of my consideration.
So, when you say “deification of nature” it’s a null statement. “Deification” being a supernatural attribute is, by definition, unnatural.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Since you
I base my words, deeds, and decisions on observed, or reliably reported, events. The highest order of existence I acknowledge is natural.,
you have obviously observed that nothing about nature is important? Right?
Making nature important is a value judgment, isn't it?
If bit understand correctly the theory of Evolution, the theory cannot judge whether or not life is important.
The theory judges: "Life is."
BTW, deification comes from worshiping.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:00 pmperhaps bit might consider other books if bit feels bit needs guidance from print materials.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:02 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
No, the subject about which bitblt has been posting is abortion. Bitblt seems to believe that if you’re pro-choice you’re pro-death. Does bitblt even stop to consider the idea that we’re all anti-abortion, we just want to reduce abortions by preventative means other than making pregnant women and their doctors into criminals. Or would that hurt bitblt’s brain?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Why would anyone want to reduce the number of abortions? Many people are employed in this industry.
Do people want to reduce the number of abortions because the victims are innocent?
August 29th, 2008 at 5:03 pmkonchster @ 39:
The Richmond metro area has a larger population than the entire state of Alaska. I wonder what Karl Rove will have to say now?
August 29th, 2008 at 5:11 pmAnd just for the record, I think that adult humans, even young and unmarried one's, should be allowed to decide what they consider is "responsible sexual behavior" for themselves.
I think that abortion should be viewed as a last resort. I am convinced that few, if any, women think to themselves, "I'm gonna do it, I can just get an abortion". And I think it's pretty clear that Roe-v-Wade is adequate. Contrary to Reichwing propaganda, it did not set off industrial abortion factories and has prevented states from passing laws which could prevent emergency medical procedures in addition to abortions.
I might also add that Evangelicons, simply by their Judgmentalism, go against their professed Faith and are therefore, in my eyes, Faithless.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:12 pmis bit really that slow?
O.K. Here it is in plain English. I don't worship anything. I am fully aware of the definitions and nuances of the word and I can say, with 100% certainty, "I don't worship anything". Ergo, I don't deify anything.
That being said, many things are important to me. Some I would give a life for and some I would take a life for. And I don't worship any of them either. Making decisions, even greedy ones, or sacrifices doesn't require deification.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:20 pm"Why would anyone want to reduce the number of abortions? Many people are employed in this industry".
That is utterly insane! I don't mind sparring with those who are merely delusional but you need professional help you sick bleep!
Sorry gang. But once they pass that leap of "logic" there's no cure short of straight-jackets and heavy medication.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pmTwo problems Wabbit.
1. Clinton (Bill) wasn't in office when Katrina hit.
2. Clinton (Bill) will never be President again.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:27 pmpete Says:
is bit really that slow?
O.K. Here it is in plain English. I don’t worship anything. I am fully aware of the definitions and nuances of the word and I can say, with 100% certainty, “I don’t worship anything”. Ergo, I don’t deify anything.
That being said, many things are important to me. Some I would give a life for and some I would take a life for. And I don’t worship any of them either. Making decisions, even greedy ones, or sacrifices doesn’t require deification.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Sorry. bit basically doesn't believe you, not that it's a big deal or even the least bit (somewhat) important.
“I don’t worship anything”. Ergo, I don’t deify anything.
Further, bit's not calling you a liar; however, you've made enough judgments in your past few post to demonstrate that you have beliefs and are just as human as anyone else.
bit especially liked the
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pete didn’t need to read it in a book, he was taught that that’s how one should lead one’s life. the first time he read that quote, at age 14, he said, “hey! they stole that from Confucius”!
August 29th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Someone taught you values. You didn't discover them in nature.
bit believes it's almost impossible to not worship something. but that's just bit.
Have a great weekend.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:28 pmPeople want to reduce the number of abortions because we're sick of sanctimonious pro-death-penalty-pro-war idiots making it into a voting issue. Or that may just be me.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pmBunny~
Clinton did it! is funny in response to FEMA... (from wikipedia)
Yeah, Clinton had better leaders, better responses, and a better government- thanks for pointing it out once again. People need to be reminded that the Federal government was once functional and not full of inept cronies...
August 29th, 2008 at 5:38 pmpete Says:
“Why would anyone want to reduce the number of abortions? Many people are employed in this industry”.
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August 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
That was, is, full bore cynicism.
On the other hand, believe BHO said something about reducing the number of abortions by 95% - the percentage of abortions for the purpose of birth control.
So someone said, "Why would he want to reduce the number of abortions by 95%?"
August 29th, 2008 at 5:40 pmTo which someone answered, "Because the victims are innocent."
“Why would anyone want to reduce the number of abortions? Many people are employed in this industry”.
For the same reasons I would want military personnel around the world looking for another job.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:40 pmAugust 29th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Bit, you ignorant tit. The problem with you, and your kind, is that when an unbeliever tells you exactly what they, in this case I, believe; you presume to say we, in this case I, believe.
You don't have the wit, bit, to comprehend me when I spell it out for you. How on earth can you be so arrogant as to believe you can tell me what I believe?
August 29th, 2008 at 5:51 pmAnd what I'm saying is that it's up to mothers and doctors to make the very hard decisions involved in terminating a pregnancy for any reason. And I've never seen one bit (a small lump of doo-doo) of evidence for vast numbers of casual abortions. They are guardians of their own souls. Leave them in peace.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:56 pmThat was, is, full bore cynicism.
No. It was, is, a full bore lie.
Implying that people who choose careers giving medical services to women, which may include the regrettable necessity of abortions, are "in the industry" to give abortions is a cheap sentimentalist trick to stir up fear and hate.
People in the health-care industry view abortion in much the same way as police view using deadly force. (I AM NOT COMPARING FETUSES TO CRIMINALS!!!) Both occurrences are viewed as, regrettable, last options. And I'm willing to let the women and the health-care professionals deal with the ethical issues.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:06 pmGreat pick...Biden will absolutely destroy her in the debates.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:19 pmPlus the pick shows that McCain's judgement is poor. This woman is not even close to being qualified to be President of the United States. A former fisherman who doesn't believe global warming is a man made condition?? Turn out the lights McSame.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
SP is the final coffin in the McStain Campaign.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:58 pmoops : I meant to say final nail in the coffin of...
August 29th, 2008 at 7:59 pmI couldn't agree more, Kay. I would definitely place her selection the the evidence in favor of the GOP throwing the election. When they are on top of their game they do very well at winning elections and I don't see them making ANY right moves.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:01 pmRandom thoughts:
Who's smarter, mcchimpy or the queen?
She is everything Hillary isn't.
If mcchimpy thinks she will bring in women voters...HAHAHAHAHA
Wow someone from Alaska, the state that pays people to live there and they are still crooks.
No wonder she got elected all she did was be a queen in the land of men. How easy is that?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pmSince the trolls go ot all the f-n time.
Allow me.
It's gonna be great seeing President Obama portrait among the rest of the elected Presidents.
Yeef5ckinghaw!
I don't know about y'all but people out and about were really nice today. I believe the bird sounded extremely cheerful today.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:16 pmbitblt Says:
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Nope. It’s about the right of a woman for the privacy to make a private medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God.
If the decision is a “pivate medical decision with the aid of her doctor and her God” at the time of the abortion, what kind of decision is it at the time of conception?
Interesting that you bring that up. Almost without exception, Democrats are for allowing women the tools that they need in order to PREVENT pregnancies in the first place. Which in turn would lessen the number of abortions in total. Education will ALWAYS be the answer to giving women the necessary tools and contraception advice so that they may make valid decisions about when and if to start a family.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:38 pmShe's a Creationist. And that's quite the brood she's bred. Is she against birth control? Seems like a younger, better looking Harriet Myers type.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:57 pm"For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country."
Why? Because Sarah Palin will become VP.
Michelle Obama isn't the only one that can use that line.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:54 amTim43 Says:
“For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.”
Why? Because Sarah Palin will become VP.
While YOU might vote for a boutique candidate, don't expect the majority of rational voters to follow your lead.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:55 amTim43 Says:
“For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.”
Really? So, why do you hate America? Right-wing assh0les aren't the only ones who can use that line.
Why? Because Sarah Palin will become VP.
In your dreams,pal,her lies are going to come home to haunt McStained-My-Pants-Again.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:44 amAnd timmy, BTW, that's not a real 'recommend', I accidentally clicked it when I cut-and-pasted your idiotic post.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:47 am