Palin is seemingly unaware of McCain’s Iraq plan.
By on Aug 29th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Palin is seemingly unaware of McCain’s Iraq plan.
In an August 14 interview with Time Magazine, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK), now Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) running mate, suggested that McCain had not shared his plan for Iraq with her. Palin, who has not been to Iraq, said she does not know “what the plan is to ever end the war.” She later said its “tough” to “talk about the plan for the war” because her son will be deployed to Iraq this September. “Let’s make sure we have a plan here,” she said. Palin then added, “respecting McCain’s position on that too though.” Listen here:
Matt Duss notes that by trying to “make news with an unknown, stunt VP pick, McCain has shortchanged the issue which he himself insists is the most important — national security.”
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This getting better every minute!
Ol’ Johnny Boy must be having a shitfit about now and looking for Cheney’s shotgun to go after the rover.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:04 pmIt’s okay people, it’s okay. She was runner up in a beauty pageant. She’s qualified.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pmMcCain’s handlers should know better than to allow their veep pick to face the press without a script. If she knows what’s good for her, she’ll learn all the official talking points and regurgitate them on demand. Just like her running mate — although she looks like she has a better memory.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:07 pmWill be interesting to hear her opinion when her son is in harms way. I know mccain’s boys are in the military but no one seems to know where they were exactly.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:07 pmThe most stunning remark by delusional McCain is that he says she’s “ready to be president”, while saying Obama is not. This must be the definitive proof that McCain is an idiot.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:09 pmIs she ready to lead from day one?
After all, she’d be only a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:09 pmOne good piece of news for McSHAME: She probably has NO foreign policy opinions, so there will be no Previous position she can be accused of flip fllopping from. You give this woman enough kool-aid, and she will probably spout anything you want!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:09 pmIn all fairness to poor Sarah, how can she be expected to know John’s positions on issues when even he doesn’t seem to know from one day to the next?
What will be interesting is to see if he flip flops on this choice. After all, he’s changed his stance on virtually everything!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 6:13 pm**snort**
Stop it, TP. My sides are hurting…. :-D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:13 pmWell, it didn’t stop georgie boy did it ? The lack of experience or being a success at anything.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:14 pmNo problem seeing as McCain doesn’t know McCain’s Iraq plan.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:14 pmthis is a non-issue…
Move along, nothing to see here… Look over here! A Woman on the ticket! Boy oh, boy- an historic occasion!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:14 pmIs she informed? Well, that’s a non-issue… she’s otherwise more than qualified (read: she has a vagina! Hillary supporters come on over! please!)
demkiller Says:
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She’s otherwise more than qualified, this is a non-issue…
August 29th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Based upon what ?
You believe running a state with a population that has less individuals living in it than SIXTEEN US CITIES , gives this dope any type of insight into the economy (a subject McDepends has shown zero aptitude in) , along with her having exposure zero national issues ?
Good luck selling that ………..
August 29th, 2008 at 6:15 pmIBTunion4obama Says:
It’s okay people, it’s okay. She was runner up in a beauty pageant.
Here’s a pic.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:16 pmI agree all mccain wanted was a female, but look she is a lifetime member of the NRA and has 5 children one who is disabled. Sounds good to me. All she has to do is cut ribbons, and agree with mccain. How hard can it be ? bushie has done it for 8 years.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:18 pmMcCain clearly knows more about Biden than his own pick, Palin. Is she really the pick Limbaugh and Rove vetted and approved?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:18 pmI was glad to hear that Obama and Biden issued a joint statement describing Palin as an impressive person and a fresh voice (I am paraphrasing). The first “campaign statements” questioning her experience were unfortunate and apparently not official.
It is much smarter to just welcome her into the race. Give her a week or two and it will be abundantly clear that she is not up to the task.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pmI believe he is trying to throw the election, or might be showing the GOP’s hand…that there is not going to be an election!?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:22 pmThere’s a video of her saying she doesn’t know what the VP job involves and doesn’t think it’s as challenging as being Governor of … snort … Alaska.
And another one where she complains that those dumb polar bears are messing up the drilling in her state. Oh and then she authorized the illegal aerial shooting of wolves including 14 pups shot in their den.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:23 pmYou would, Reptard.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:25 pmQualifications:
Anti-abortion – check
Likes Global warming – check (hey, she’s from Alaska, what can you say?)
Wants to open up wilderness areas to Big Oil – check.
Is clueless about Iraq – check.
Expertise in foreign relations limited to living next door to a foreign country – check. (Bush’s expertise was the same – lived next door to Mexico)
Associates with people deeply involved in scandals – check
Is currently being investigated for possible ethics violations – check.
Compared to Bush before He became President, Palin’s got a head start!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:25 pmLats see here ole john mccain panders to the religious wrong he panders to theoil companies he panders to the repug base now he panderin to the puma’s yeah he’s a P.O.W
August 29th, 2008 at 6:26 pmPandering.Old .Warmonger
I think the experience is still better than a 1-term senator….
Obama was a constitutional lawyer. Does Palin have a law degree?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:26 pmThese people live among us:
“Sarah is real!!! What a fabulous contrast with Obama, who is not real. Sarah is from America. Obama is not.”
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZGU1ZGJlMTVjZGJiYTk2NjcxNDk0Zjc5MjczMzcyM2I=
August 29th, 2008 at 6:28 pmCan you say P.A.N.D.E.R?
Carly Fiorina must be having a F.I.T.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pmObama was a constitutional lawyer. Does Palin have a law degree?
Sarah won “Miss Congeniality.” Did Obama ever win “Miss Congeniality?”
See- they can play this tit for tat game all through tea-time… then they’ll need to find something else, any Obama photo-ops scheduled in front of columns this afternoon?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pm#14 Little Freep Goofballs, that picture is hilarious.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pmMayor of Wasilla, population 8,500
Governor of Alaska, population 670,053
McCain has had four different types of cancer, and turned 72 today, and this is what he picked? Watching the GOPers trying to find something positive to say about Palin is hilarious!
All I can picture is the behind the scene with Barack and Joe when they heard that announcement! Do ya think they were impressed? Worried? No, I think they were laughing their asses off!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pmT R L :
There is no such animal as a P.U.M.A. ya know?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pm#24 what experience are you talking about ? Mayor of 7500 people, 18 months as Governor ? Degree in journalism, great in sports? Obama worked solving serious issues PRIOR to even joining the Senate. Obama worked across the aisle to clean up Walter Reed’s mess. How does Sarah’s experience even come close to that alone ?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pmWas she (like McCain has done in the past) connecting the war in Iraq with oil?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:33 pmPardon me, Obama was born in Hawaii since when is that not in America ? Did I miss something ? mccain just doesn’t want a cheney as V.P. to take over so he picked a yes lady.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:35 pmZed Lefflin Says:
She doesn’t give a crap what ANY Washington insider thinks Obama, Biden or the rest…..when I saw her flip up the cap on the trijcon on her M-16 check select fire and cap off a three round burst I gaszmoed my jammies…..we got us a modern day Annie Oakley here. I will bet there is no tofu in her fridge……just about 100 lbs of Polar bear and caribou jerky………..
Zed, that was hilarious! Thanks for the Friday PM laugh.
I am picturing Jeremiah Johnson, in drag.
I bet she chews Copanhagen and watches ‘pro’ wrestling, too.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:35 pmWell at least Obama didn’t say, “the constitution is just a piece of paper.” now did he.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:35 pmNext you bush people will insist she is prettier than Obama and Joe as a qualification. Talk about scratching the bottom of the barrel.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:37 pmXisithrus Says:
Since when has obama defended the constitution…what a joke
And Bush or Cheney has?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:37 pmThey really didn’t give this a lot of thought, did they? If Rove is behind it, there can be only one reason. He knows that they are going to lose and he’s looking for a “fall-guy” (or in this case “fall-girl”). Sarah Palin is going to really regret doing this.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmSen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) running mate, suggested that McCain has yet to share his plan for Iraq with her.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmThat’s OK governor. His plans shift with the winds, so whatever you say Gov. Palin will no doubt be correct at some point.
texaslady Says:
Pardon me, Obama was born in Hawaii since when is that not in America ? Did I miss something ? mccain just doesn’t want a cheney as V.P. to take over so he picked a yes lady.
Texaslady,
I guess being born in Hawaii, a state is not as good as being in Panama, a foreign country, huh?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmIBTunion4obama @ 29:
Yeah, she looks good with a ’stache. Maybe add a soul patch?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmdemkiller Says:
Uh-oh… already out of tit for tat… quick, someone dig up an out of context quote, a pin-less lapel, or a ‘close friend’ Obama met once who said something outrageous! Hurry, we’ve got nothing here!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmI am asking WHY, EXACTLY, you think Palin is qualified.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:39 pmspencers mom Says:
Mayor of Wasilla, population 8,500
Governor of Alaska, population 670,053
McCain has had four different types of cancer, and turned 72 today, and this is what he picked?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Assassination insurance. :P
August 29th, 2008 at 6:40 pmImagine how stupid the American people will seem to the world is the Republicans steal another election and dumb and dumber actual take the office. This nominations would be hilarious if it wasn’t for that possibility.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:40 pmMemo to TP: I hope that you post this story about Palin. From looking into Palin’s being investigated for her attempts to have her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, using her clout as governor, well, Palin invoked the Alaska version of executive privilege to withhold emails dealing with the case.
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8802680
Palin is more like a Dick Cheney in a dress. Palin has no foreign policy experience. I look forward to the Biden-Palin debate. But, to Mccain, Palin is pro-choice and pro-oil drilling.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:41 pmRove ran down Tim Kaine’s Richmond. Wasilla, you’re no Richmond!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:42 pmI bet they did this announcement right before a 3 day weekend so they can have more time to work up the talking points for the trollies and the rest of the mindless talking heads on tv and radio.
Because it is apparent that they caught them all off guard today! HEH HEH
August 29th, 2008 at 6:43 pm#demkiller Says:
MCMetal Says:
I think the experience is still better than a 1-term senator….
You certainly do have low expectations. Let’s see here:
A person who graduated first in his class at Harvard Law, a Constitutional law professor for 10 years, a community organizer, 8 years in a state legislature with one city with a population larger than the state of Alaska. Then 4 years as a Senator (he was elected in 2004 and it is now 2008).
vs.
A former beauty queen who graduated from a generic college with a degree in Journalism who went on to spend four years as the mayor of a town with a population of 6,000 and then two years as Governor of a state with a population of 600,000+.
Yep, that beauty queen sure has it over the Harvard law guy.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:44 pmXisithrus Says:
I think the experience is still better than a 1-term senator….
Obama was a constitutional lawyer. Does Palin have a law degree?
Obama: BA from Columbia
First year at Harvard Law, served on the Harvard Law Review
Second year, served as President of Harvard Law Review
Taught Constitutional Law at University of Chicago for 12 years
Illinois State Senate, 1997-2004
US Senate 2005-2008
Palin: Runner-up for Miss Alaska
August 29th, 2008 at 6:44 pmBA from University of Idaho in journalism
Wasila city Council 1992-1996
Wasila mayor 1996-2002
Unsuccessful candidate for Lt. Governor 2002
Governor of Alaska 2006-2008
p.s. Meaning pro-Republican choice.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:44 pm#42 – think you got your message wrong, someone else stated Obama was not a citizen, probably they never completed geography. Actually Obama and mccain are citizens so why does the comment keep coming up ? It is a non issue.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:45 pmWhy Doug Feith is more qualified than Palin.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:46 pmWow. Just wow.
We really do live in an “American Idol” kind of culture now here in America. Scary.
Vote Smart.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:46 pmObama has succeeded more in 1 term than mccain in years and years, guess because he was working instead of eating at the lobbyists tables.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:46 pmI think they should rename American Idol to Idle American.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:48 pmtexaslady Says:
#42 – think you got your message wrong, someone else stated Obama was not a citizen, probably they never completed geography. Actually Obama and mccain are citizens so why does the comment keep coming up ? It is a non issue.
The wingnuts have been claiming for some time that there is no “official” birth certificate from Hawaii and that he’d actually been born in some foreign country, with the fake certificate cobbled up recently. In order to believe this, of course, you have to ignore the fact that the State of Hawaii has confirmed that the certificate is real and legal.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:48 pmtexaslady,
I was supporting what you had said about Obama and Hawaii. And I remember all the brouha over that and McCain being born in Panama.
None of it is relevant except to the wackos that still say he is Muslim.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:48 pmPretty smart on her part to tell EVERY TERRORIST on planet earth that her son named PALIN will soon be in Iraq. Good work mom!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pmBadmoodman Says:
These people live among us:
“Sarah is real!!! What a fabulous contrast with Obama, who is not real. Sarah is from America. Obama is not.”
What I find confusing is that the right is comparing Palin to Obama and not to Biden. Isn’t that apples to oranges? Or have they already written McBush off as President and elevated Palin to the position?
August 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pmJohn Kerry Says:
The good news is that Palin DOES know how many states in the U.S.!!
Such low expectations. Fifth graders know how many states we have.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pmSo, we have two healthy, experienced people ready to take on the establishment against a man with serious medical problems, a history of forgetting what he says from moment to moment with a sidekick who has max 4 years of small government. Wow what a tough choice.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:50 pmJK, you’re counting your chickenhawks before they hatch.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:51 pmCan’t wait to hear Mitt Romney say that “Sarah Palin doesn’t speak for the McCain Campaign”.
Oh, if Johnie boy goes back to the “inexperience” card he really needs to look at his own staff and go through the resumes to see how many actual national campaigns they’ve all worked on. I have a feeling many of these people have “Regent” and “Liberty” listed all over their education sections.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:51 pm60. John Kerry Says: (rant)
Ok folks, it’s official, JK has officially gone around the bend. It’s ranting in bold and thinks it is actually saying something. Hopefully someone will call the local mental health facility and have it picked up before it hurts itself.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:52 pmNobody has to dig up anything bad, they simply have to point out the lack of qualifications. No law degree, No economics degree, No MBA. No foreign policy experience.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:52 pmTexaslady says:
So, we have two healthy, experienced people ready to take on the establishment against a man with serious medical problems, a history of forgetting what he says from moment to moment with a sidekick who has max 4 years of small government. Wow what a tough choice.
Texaslady,
You give the 23%ers too much credit. Logic and rational thinking aren’t their strong suits.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:54 pmI’ll tell you what JK, it your two idiot candidates steal another election people will be fleeing this country in droves. I could not take the embarrassment of other countries thinking we elected these two stooges.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:54 pmPer Josh Marshall over at TPM:
“I mentioned earlier that Gov. Palin is in the thick of her own very Bush era scandal over her attempts to have her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, using her clout as governor. Now we’ve learned she’s invoked the Alaska version of executive privilege to withhold emails dealing with the case. Our report on the latest on the case will be coming up shortly.”
It just gets better and better! I honestly think Palin person will be on the ticket for less than two weeks.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 6:55 pmJohn Kerry Says:
And the real joke is that the Rep VICE PRESIDENT is a hell of a lot more qualified than your Presidential pick!! I even feel sorry for you!!
If by “qualified” you mean “being President” for 30 minutes while the deposed President is getting some prostate work done”, then you’ve summed up his qualifications quite well.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:56 pmI am asking WHY, EXACTLY, you think Palin is qualified.
Well that’s easy to answer — she has a vagina (or a c*nt as McNumbNuts would say.
Why, I even heard someone say on the radio today that she hoped Palin would be pictured breast-feeding her newborn. She just really thought that would send a powerful message.
After delivering five kids, that vagina of hers is probably somewhere between the size of a catcher’s mitt and the Al-Can highway. If she needs to show her qualifications, perhaps she can just pull a Britney Spears and go commando. When she is ignored in campaign planning meetings or stumped in a VP debate, she can just raise her skirt and flash her credentials.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:56 pmAnd the pundits on TV are suggesting that Catholics will throw over one of their own to vote for another fundamentalist Christian. Somebody needs to ask her on tape what she thinks of Catholics, soon.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:57 pmcheck out what she said about her faith in god
McCain VP pick Sarah Palin
August 29th, 2008 at 6:59 pmCan you imagine the telephone call two days ago, with a mccain advisor saying, “we have called everyone else and they said no, if you aren’t busy for the next few months how about being our V.P.?” It is a temp job til November 5th.
I agree with Shayne, please could we have two people to be proud of for the next four years? We did the last in graduate class before, now mccain graduating 894 in class of 899. NO, NO, NO.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:59 pmThis just in: McCain to name Barney Fife, Secretary of Defense.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:59 pmIf you check out the “First Read” on MSNBC politics section…says that McCain had only met her ONE time at some Gov. Conference!Goodness, that’s not even enought time to be vetted!Got the impression from the article that they don’t really know each other well at all…I’m insulted, as a woman…I hope people will see this transparent ploy for what it is..a ploy to get women to get on board (Hillary women, in particular)NO WAY! It’s not about ANY female, it’s about Hillery…no matter what you think of her, she earned her way there in Washington and had the support of women that felt like she does on the issues. THIS WOMAN IS IS NO HILLERY!!!!Her choice by McCain to be VP shows not only bad judgement on his part, but is yet another slap in the face to women..there were many other much more qualified women to choose from that would have benefited him. This is a joke, and he’s made a mockery of the office. McShame is right!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:00 pmThere’s NOTHING bad you all can dig up about this woman?
Might one expect the Governor of Alaska, an ex-mayor and long time resident to know the size of the ExxonValdez oil spill? On CSPAN’s Washington Journal she declared the ship spilled 11,000 gallons of fuel.
She missed the mark in two ways. It spilled 10.8 million gallons of crude oil, not fuel. The spill eventually covered 11,000 square miles of ocean.
Purposeful or accident? Only she knows. But recall she’s a fan of big oil.
And made the statement around the time of the Supreme Court decision on damages. Might an Alaska governor want to bone up on the details of the case before going on Washington Journal?
August 29th, 2008 at 7:00 pmHey Tom, could you just keep the conversation above the bar room floor. We, don’t talk about your anatomy or lack thereof.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:01 pmBushHater Says:
This just in: McCain to name Barney Fife, Secretary of Defense.
The scary thing is, Barney might actually be more qualified than any of the Republicans who would be considered for the role.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:02 pmI think Tina Fey would make a killer parody of Palin!!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:03 pmAs a former POW, John Bush has more than enough foreign policy cred to account for his Veep, his Secretary of Defense, and his Secretary of State, because he’s a POW!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:04 pmActually, Sarah Palin’s children are not named for television characters…Track is named for where he was conceived.
A great role model for high school young women. She’ll name her next child “the President’s Desk?”
August 29th, 2008 at 7:07 pmMcCain is to POW what A1 is to steak sauce.
It just depends on how it tastes in your mouth.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:09 pm“And I say this, of course, knowing the situation we are in right now — at war, not knowing what the plan is to ever end the war we are engaged in…”
Seriously, does it matter? John McCain doesn’t think so, and apparently that doesn’t matter.
Victory in Iraq!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:11 pmGov. Palin…America wants to Know:
If a woman takes the “MOrning After Pill” after experiencing Date Rape, would she be an accessory to Murder?
Are Drug Resistant Germs created by God, or did they Evolve.
How old is the Earth?
Why are Catholics and Jews & Muslims Wrong?
August 29th, 2008 at 7:14 pmSorry, texaslady. I didn’t mean to offend. I just got carried away with the frivolity of the whole situation and the absurd transparency of it all. My comments would make a great SNL sketch but I can understand why you may have been offended.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:14 pmMcCain: “When you get to know her, you’re gonna love her…”
Seriously, how much can John Bush know about a women he’s met once. That must of been one hell of a first encounter!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:14 pmOh…I almost forgot! Maybe the pre-requisite WAS to be a former beauty queen!!! That way, the next time the guy goes back to the *@ck fest at Sturgis he can offer up his wife AND the beauty queen:) Saw that she made a crude comment about her husband and “getting some later” or something to that effect…how “vice presidential”. On one hand, we have two intelligent, well qualified people that take this seriously, as it should be.Then, on the other side, we have the bad dream ticket…Can’t wait to see that Biden/ Palen debate! One for the ages….better save that on the DVR for a good chuckle later.Good luck, Sarah. Gonna need it.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:15 pmMcCain: We will burn those jungles of the Viet…of those terrorists of al Qaeda, destroy those hut villages in our Hue…in our Cobra gunships and chase Ho Ch…Osama bin Laden to the Gates of Hell because you, my fathe…the American people demand it!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:17 pmCan’t wait to see that Biden/ Palen debate! One for the ages
Hopefully, it will be coming up real soon. I am beginning to wonder if she’ll make it past next week.
Can you say “Tom Eagleton”?
August 29th, 2008 at 7:18 pmIt’s been hilarious watching Pat Buchanan trying to get excited about Sarah. He called her Gov. Pallen, then Sarah Paralin. He was questioning her experience and readiness to lead, and suddenly after the commercial break, he launched into how great she was, and that she eats moose burgers!
And it looks like the findings from the investigation into Palin’s influence in removing Walt Monegan from his position because he refused to fire Palin’s ex-bro-in-law will be released on October 31st. Unless the Alaska GOP is successful in scuttling the entire process.
Grab some popcorn! Gonna be fun to watch!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 7:24 pmsectionop92
I think Troll Kerry gave us a tell about himself when he said “I even feel sorry for you”. My interpretation of that statement is that Troll Kerry has been feeling sorry for himself and republiscums and now he feels sorry for us too.
I think Troll Kerry is very sorry, in his lack of thinking and inability to present cogent thoughts here.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:24 pmTom, I agree, I don’t think Sarah is going to be on the ticket for very long…
I wonder who the runner up was for this beauty contest?
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 7:25 pmGiven McCain’s history of relations with women– how long til he nails her? I’m just sayin’…………..
August 29th, 2008 at 7:27 pmI wonder who the runner up was for this beauty contest?
PEACE
Funny, I dont recall any stories about the secret service sweeping Palins residence or giving her protection whereas Romney did.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:28 pmI wonder who the runner up was for this beauty contest?
Well, spencers mom, since the whole strategy is about going after disaffected Hillary supporters, I would suggest that Clinton is next up on the call list.
lol
August 29th, 2008 at 7:29 pmThis whole Palin thing seems like a suckerpunch. I am staying away from it for now.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:31 pmHere’s Josh Marshall’s latest:
“This is a perilous story for Palin and McCain. I flagged some of the details earlier in the day. But this is the kind of story, the kind of investigation, where it is highly unlikely that Palin hasn’t made public false statements about her involvement in what happened. I think that’s generous. As always in cases like this, the question is whether anyone can prove it. There are a couple investigations — one under the auspices of the state legislature and another of the state Attorney General, which she either supported or ‘requested’. That latter investigation already surfaced taped phone calls that forced Palin walk back her original denials and admit that her aides had pressed for the firings, just without her knowledge.”
I’ve asked before, but I’ll ask again, just who vetted this woman? If bloggers can dig up all of this in less than 7 hours, what the heck did the vetters do?
Not long for the ticket, not long at all…
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 7:32 pmPalin was a big supporter of Pat Buchanan in a year when he gave his most offensive speech ever against women and homosexuals. Chris Matthews said how could somebody have supported you when you made that insulting speech. Looks like there lots to dig up on her. Maybe that’s why the campaign is being pretty quiet today, hopefully they’re doing their homework.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:32 pmThe Entire Bush Presidency seems like a suckerpunch!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:34 pmWell at least Charlie Crist won’t have to get married now! And I’m sure Sarah’s foreign relations experience with her Russian neighbors will help us with the Georgia situation before it escalates into a Bonnie Situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTF82dNLdvM
August 29th, 2008 at 7:41 pmI have to say that it has been a lot of fun today watching the trolls scramble for something to use re. Palin as VP. The best they can do is to say she is “more qualified than Obama”. That confuses me because she is not running for President. Shouldn’t they be comparing her experience to Biden? Or has the right given up on McBush and now considers Palin to be their presidential candidate? It’s all so confusing but also a lot of fun!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:42 pmChris Matthews is amazed she was one of Pat Buchanan’s Pitch Fork People, does anybody know what that means. He said he can’t believe any woman would support him after the things he said that year.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pm#STL Cynic Says:
Given McCain’s history of relations with women– how long til he nails her? I’m just sayin’…………..
Even with the aid of Viagra, I doubt that George McCain could nail any women these days.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pmAnd there is yet another investigation of Palin regarding whether or not she used her influence to circumvent the highering process to land a fund-raiser a job. Here is the ethics complaint:
http://community.adn.com/sites/community.adn.com/files/McLeod%20Ethics%20Complaint1.pdf
Vetting? Vetting? We don’t need no sticking vetting!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pmPalin’s son is fighting for Iraq’s freedom to sign oil deals with China:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08241/907686-28.stm?cmpid=business.xml
August 29th, 2008 at 7:50 pmYou go spencers mom!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:50 pmNPR’s reporting that Wikipedia has locked her page after it was significantly re-written last night to paint these scandals in a better light…
August 29th, 2008 at 7:53 pmbelac Says:
NPR’s reporting that Wikipedia has locked her page after it was significantly re-written last night to paint these scandals in a better light…
Ah, so there’s your vetting! Don’t like the facts as they stand? Just rewrite them!
Too bad that so many public records are, how do I say this, public!
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 7:57 pmMy guess is that McCain looked deep into Palin’s eyes, and got a sense of her soul…
…or a woody. :P
August 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pmhmm…will she be more katherine harris or more harriet meyers, that’s my question.
this has got to be one of the dumbest things mccain’s done, and that’s saying something. even if mccain thought he’d get some pumas by picking a woman, there’s no way this helps his chances. first of all, of course, pumas fundamentally disagree with mccain’s positions, and from what i’ve heard about them so far, palin’s positions. secondly, pumas are certainly not going to vote for a candidate who called hillary clinton a whiner and not a good representative of women in politics.
besides which, if mccain doesn’t speak for his campaign, and isn’t involved in finalizing the party’s platform, and disagrees with most of the major planks of the platform, then how likely is it that *he* made this decision himself? so then, how on earth could his campaign’s and advisors’ choice of a *woman* for a running mate reflect positively on mccain?
finally, we’re still learning about the nefarious and sundry ways cheney has manipulated the administration to benefit the industries with which he had connections. what connections does palin have *right now* that would be looking for a handout? she accepted campaign money from veco and bill allen, for one thing. her explanation of the whole state trooper firing rang very hollow; she practically admits guilt. besides, if it really were that simple, would her legislature still be investigating?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pm.
Sarah(aka Dick Cheney in drag) Palin says:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-july-2008-i-dont-even-know-what-the-vice-president-does/
You know, if I go look for a job, at least I would research what that job entails… NO?
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August 29th, 2008 at 8:02 pmI found a picture showing McCain taller than Palin, so he gets to pretend he has executive height. Of course, I had to subtract the bun and her high heels for John to win.
It’s similar to voter caging!
August 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pmone the one hand, i think this choice was last-minute; either that, or they wanted to keep it *such* a surprise that they didn’t do any vetting or meet with her, to avoid raising suspicion. but then again, she’s known that she was in the running for a while at least.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:07 pmTwo years is an awfully short time to be involved in two ethics scandals. She’d be replacing dick cheney? That’s really scary. FT
They’re going for the religious extremist vote. Abortion and ‘gays’ will suddenly be the only important issues. Oh, and flag burning. I think McCain will come out next week flat-out saying he’ll appoint ‘constitutional’ judges and will overturn RvW. Oh, and keep the ds from taking our guns.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:17 pmI wouldn’t say she’d be replacing Dick Cheney, she’d probably be more like a marionette and he’d be pulling the stings but he’s going to be busy working both McCain and her.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:19 pmI usually don’t stay awake long enough to comment this far down on a thread but after watching, reading, listening, and, I admit, laughing and yawning I have come to a conclusion. A happenstance that does sometimes occur rapidly and, in some cases, prematurely but nevertheless is always significant, if only of my ignorance. To state it simply, the GOPERs have led us all down the rosy path. The Dems have shot their wad; they have no more surprises. What we see–Obama/Biden–is what we are going to get. Not to complain at all because the ticket is as close to the best that we are going to get. But just think a moment, the GOPERs haven’t really lost all contact with reality, they haven’t played all their cards. They are still looking for the river card to add a little poker suspense. And, GUESS WHAT! Their convention doesn’t start until next week. I will venture to say that the McOld/McHo ticket is just a bunch of fooling around (pun intended) and when the real Mr. GOP Presidential Candidate and GOP Vice-Presidential Candidate stand up McSenile and McDrill are nowhere around. I would offer my usual odds of $20 to a glass of warm pee but I just can’t afford to win all that stuff.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:24 pmExpanding on stjack @ 114, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Palin is the “new Harriet Miers.” Throw out the name of the least qualified woman you can possibly think of — to give yourself more time in Veepstakes — wait for the outrage of the left AND the right, and then she’ll pull her name from consideration “for the good of her family.”
After that, McDizzy could pick ANY old white Republican dude, and at least the right would heave a sigh of relief.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:28 pmCrusty Old Bastard,
And there is also the question of Ron Paul which I think will be the reason they postpone teh convention if they do. To just screw with their plans. Ron Paul ain’t going quietly into that good night.
The PUMAs are really only Operation Chaos Rush followers. Their Anti-Obama vitriole is only the Reichwing having a new venue through which to spew their bile and hate.
TRUE “Hillary” supporters ONLY WANTED HILLARY. They wanted her as Pres, and then when conssession was on the table, they wanted her as VP. NONE of the true DEM Hillarists would vote gender specific. It is anathema to the whole Hillary mantra. It was not HER gender, it was her capabilities, IN SPITE OF HER GENDER. To now think that these Hillarists would flock to a poor excuse for a Repuikkkicant Hillary, is laughable. To do so, is totally opposite of Hillary’s message and policies.
It is not the PERSON, it is the POLICIES for which the person stands.
We don’t care for Palin BECAUSE she is a woman, we don’t like her for her policies IN SPITE Of being a woman.
This will show the Hillarists of the true deperate straits the GOP is in.
Support Hillary for Supreme Court, and SCREW THE GOP for the next 20-30 years.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:37 pmAnd the trolls think there aren’t any juicy scandals on McDrill. Should we make them wait Zooey?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:38 pmMaybe it is some kind of trick play, but this is ridiculous. Did the dart land on Alaska? Was Michael Brown unavailable? Really, this is a joke. Do they really think this will keep the ds from bringing up experience?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pmI’ll check back with you folks in early November when she’s dancing on your graves…
August 29th, 2008 at 8:43 pmI was listening to Randi Rhodes on the drive home. She’s convinced McCain had absolutely nothing to do with choosing Palin. Apparently Limbaugh has been pushing her for months.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:45 pmOh I’d check back sooner ace, unless you want to be the last to know about the secrets in Ms. Palin’s past.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:45 pmYou know, it strikes me as odd that we have yet to hear from the major mouthpieces from the Fundie class about Palin.
Knowing what I do of the BAC mentality, I can’t see them as getting excited at the prospects of having a woman as potential president and CiC. Hell, they don’t even allow women to become pastors, believing that a woman should submit to and obey her man.
I agree with others here who say that something else is going on behind the scenes. There is just no way that there will be a “McCain/Palin” ticket on the ballot on November 4th.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 8:47 pmHey Ace,
How much do you have bet on the McCain/Palin ticket?
Is it at least a thou? And I assume you got good odds, too.
I just hope you didn’t bet the mortgage payment, then we will have one more double-wide in foreclosure.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmYour fear is palpable…
August 29th, 2008 at 8:50 pmMichael Moore was just on Keith, saying that the GOP must think women are stupid, believing that they will vote for a party that has shown nothing but distain, disregard and contempt for women simply because there is a woman on the ticket.
Yeah, what he said.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pmMcCain – and everyone else – knows he is going to lose the election. He and Palin are merely sacrificial lambs who will return to their jobs come November. Or perhaps there will be a surprise at the Republican convention next week; perhaps they will both withdraw their nominations due to health or family reasons. Who knows? I feel strongly that this was a good choice for Obama/Biden – they can’t lose!
August 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pmAlecto Says: “Support Hillary for Supreme Court, and SCREW THE GOP for the next 20-30 years.”
I wish I had thought of it first! That would be a winner!
Bill would make a good Secretary of State as well.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:00 pmso is your anger…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:00 pmace,
August 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pmWe ALWAYS get angry at those that screw us, and you and the neo-cons have screwed us. (and I dont mean US DEMS, I mean us, THE US of A)
upside99 Says: “Hey Ace, How much do you have bet on the McCain/Palin ticket?”
Up,
He is not as dumb as we think. I couldn’t even get him to put up a glass of warm pee on McShill/McDrill.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pmBTW,
August 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pmPalin has MORE executive experience than John McCain.
I happen to think that they’ve done a good job – low taxes and dead terrorists…more than the Dems would accomplish…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:05 pmlow taxes
For those that make over 250,000, not me.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:05 pmdead terrorists
Hey where is Osama anyway????
August 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pmToo bad for you…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pmHe not under here,
Not oever here
Fcking sick muddafugga booooooosh
August 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmNobody hoping for any kind of future would want to run as his vp. Even if she wins she’s Dan Quayle. If she loses she’s Geraldine Ferraro. Either way her career is over.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmdead terrorists
Not under here,
Not oever here
Fcking sick muddafugga booooooosh
August 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmAfraid to show his face lest he get it like his pals in Pakistan
August 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmTemper, temper…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pmaceomalley7 Says:
Too bad for you…
Yeah, I know Ace, because you have no income upon which to tax as you
“LIVE IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppN-Q4fCpoQ
Or in mommy’s basement.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pmaceomalley7 Says: “I happen to think that they’ve done a good job – low taxes and dead terrorists…”
Low taxes for who? Certainly not me. Since when do we now consider our 4000+ troops killed in Iraq the “terrorists.” If you claim crooks like the bushco have done a good job you certainly aren’t a citizen of this Country.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pmaceomalley7 Says:
Your fear is palpable…
August 29th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Nah, that’s just the rash on your inner thighs from your pee pants.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pmI would have liked lower taxes and more dead terrorists…but you can’t always get what you want…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I happen to think that they’ve done a good job – low taxes and dead terrorists…more than the Dems would accomplish…
___________
Of course, you also appear to be incredibly stupid too…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I happen to think that they’ve done a good job – low taxes and dead terrorists…more than the Dems would accomplish…
You forget: Trillions of dollars in debt.
Loss of a federal surplus, replaced with a massive deficit
Housing crisis
Failure to protect thousands of lives and homes in one of America’s iconic cities; poisoning those people with FEMA mobile homes
Hell of a job, neocons!
August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pmEach to his own…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:14 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I would have liked lower taxes and more dead terrorists…but you can’t always get what you want…
Especially with an utterly incompetent administration. Think how many more dead terrorists there would have been if we hadn’t pulled the needed resources from Afghanistan to create more terrorists in Iraq.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:15 pmGive him hell, Zooey!
However, if he has a rash from his pee pants it must be around his neck, after all the only explanation for his stupidity is that he is suffering from a classical rectal/cranial insertion.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:15 pmThey came, we saw, we conquered…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:17 pmSaint Augustine Says:
And I’m sure Sarah’s foreign relations experience with her Russian neighbors will help us with the Georgia situation before it escalates into a Bonnie Situation.
____________
If the GOOP was looking for help w/ the Georgia situation, why didn’t they talk to someone from Alabama?
August 29th, 2008 at 9:17 pmI’m suffering from a simple differnce of opinion…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:18 pmHey, gummitch, some more for your list:
Torture, enormous loss of prestige around the planet, gutted Constitution, politicized DoJ, umlimited wiretapping and spying…
As they say in Am radio, the hits just keep on coming…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pmAce, as far as McShill/McDrill is concerned he hoped it would be Vidi Vici Vini but it turned out to be McOld/McCold.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:21 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I’m suffering from a simple differnce of opinion…
___________
Geez, Assomalley7, yer serving up softballs now… let me fix that for ya…
“I’m suffering from a simple lack of intelligence…”
See? NOW it makes sense!!! You can thank me later…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:21 pmThis pick seems as if from a hat.
Hell, even Mitt would have been a better choice.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I’m suffering from being a simpleton…
Here. Fixed it for you. No charge.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pmaceomalley7 Says: “I’m suffering from a simple differnce of opinion…”
My opinion is you are suffering from simplicity that makes no difference.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:24 pmWell, McCain has found his Quayle.
I wonder if the corruption charges against her will hit the fan before the election.
That would be sweet.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pmThis election will make 2000 Florida and 2004 Ohio and Florida look like clean, trouble-free polling for this r ticket to win. (Or get close enough to hide the cheating.) They’ll have to pull out all the stops: poll taxes, written tests, clear all the roles, cage like you never caged before. Perhaps even throw in a lynching or two.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:27 pmMy friend was right…trolling you losers is fun…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:28 pmSen. McCain is attempting to shore up his Right Flank.
Gov. Palin will appeal to Huckabee Voters. In many swing states, Huckabee walked away with the pro-life pro-gun Republican Primary voters.
Without a strong turnout among these voters, Sen. McCain’s chances are less than Hopeless.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pmWhining, Ace?
Gov Palin would not approve…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmSince when is having fun whining??? Good night…
August 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmOh and here’s a good one, too –>
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/08/29/did-palin-really-fight-the-bridge-to-nowhere.aspx
It appears that Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. Fancy that!
And even though she said “thanks but no thanks”, Washington sent her the money without requiring that it be spent on the bridge.
This year, she grudgingly scaled back the state’s earmark requests from over 54 to 31. Some “reformer”, huh? Not really. Just maybe getting the Alaska pork closer to the norm . . . it is the “piggiest” state in the Union. Gotta pare that back a bit . . . don’t like all that “unwanted attention”, you know.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmassofmaggots7 Says: “I’m suffering from a simple differnce of opinion…”
NO, you are suffering from lack of reality, you can have different opinions, but not different facts.
You need to recognize the facts.
You came to Washington
You Saw a functioning government and did not like that
You conquered the ability to subvert the Consitution and overthrow the government of the United States of America.
“Hello. My Name Is Inigo Montoya. You Killed My Country. Prepare to Die.”
August 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmaceomalley7 Says: “…trolling you losers is fun…”
Unless you are one just wait ’till the fat lady sings, arsewhole.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pmAlso,
August 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pmShe did not fight for the Valdez lawsuit even though her husband is a fisherman, Fancy that. Hmmm, Interesting.
Hello,
Oh Hi Mr. Exxon, why yes, I would appreciate a governorship.
Is Palin anti-abortion?
The tent just got a little emptier.
The media will be brutal, especially after she debates Biden.
That will be one for the history books. She can’t use the POW card, so she’ll play rhetorical rope-a-dope, and her surrogates will push the “victim” button for her, hard.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pmHey assofmaggots7, fcuking with the likes of you is even more funnerer. Keep up with your scut work. Make sure you put in your timesheet to KKKarl on time, it is a FEDERAL holiday on Monday.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pmWhere did this new troll come from? It must have a book called “1,000 Greatest Cliches and Platitudes” and I’m just waiting for “To each his own” and “I know you are but what am I?”
Wonder if it gets McStain Points for each of these pitiful one-liners?
Come to think of it, it wasn’t here before today. Sarah, is that you?
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 9:38 pmbarfly Says:
Is Palin anti-abortion?
The tent just got a little emptier.
Yes, she is, and that is one of the things supposedly attacting the PUMAs. Yeah, OK, Rush.
If it did not go down like MSNBC said, and MItt and Pawlenty and Liebeman all dropped out after Obama’s speech, then it must be pissing them off to no end that they got screwed. We ran ino a McCain supported today in a sandwich joint on LI, and watching the TV in the restaurant, she was dumbfounded as to who Palin was.
“I have been traveling with McCain camp for two weeks, and her name never was uttered.”
I love the smell of desperation.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:41 pmAlecto Says:
Also,
She did not fight for the Valdez lawsuit even though her husband is a fisherman, Fancy that. Hmmm, Interesting.
Hello,
Oh Hi Mr. Exxon, why yes, I would appreciate a governorship.
In an interview, Palin stated that the Exxon Valdez spilled 11,000 gallons of oil.
Well, the Valdez spill was 10.8 million gallons of oil that covered 11,000 square miles.
Don’t let the facts get in the way when you can remember one number, right Sarah?
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 9:43 pmWell this is fun because some of the conservative bloggers I’ve read suggest that this is really good for the Repubs because she has MORE and BETTER experience than Obama.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
August 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pmIf this election about judgment, the choice of Sarah Pahin shows poor judgment on McCain’s part.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pmAny intelligent person knows when you choose to have a baby at 43 you have a very high probability of having a child with Downs Syndrome. She used poor judgment not using birth control. Would she use better judgment dealing with our economy? Would she use better judgment dealing with our enemies?
I for one am not willing to take a chance.
Her husband isn’t just a fisherman, he works for BP too.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:50 pmAlecto Says: I love the smell of desperation.
Wait until the debates.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she wears a long dress – with the one-way wireless communicator taped to her inner thigh.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:52 pmMaybe they think McCain will win no matter who the VP is. They may be banking on people who will vote against Obama no matter who else they’re voting for. That may be a bigger chunk than usual.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:55 pmForget about Biden debating Palin–the real money show will be the Obama-McCain contests. Palin was hired to make Biden look “old and tired” (like McCain) and she is a distraction from the fact that McCain is off the rails.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:57 pmUp in Alaska I bet she’s never met a black person before. Odds are that she’ll say something really politically incorrect about Senator Obama.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pmIs she the new Harriet Meyers?
August 29th, 2008 at 9:59 pmShayne Says:
I’ll tell you what JK, it your two idiot candidates steal another election people will be fleeing this country in droves. I could not take the embarrassment of other countries thinking we elected these two stooges.
Unfortunately I have been researching just that, and many countries that I would like to move to have an age restriction, I am soooo screwed.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:00 pmi’ve been wondering about this for months; is there a way mccain could do this? i’ve been thinking for some time that there’s no way karl rove would run a candidate that has as many daily, *major* gaffes as mccain has had in the last 6 months or so.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pmPalin was hired to make Biden look “old and tired” (like McCain) and she is a distraction from the fact that McCain is off the rails.
Good luck with that, against a trim and tanned Biden.
It’s one of the reasons Nixon lost to Kennedy.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pmAce just slithered back to do some more self medicationg. He/she is one of mr. pee’s multiple personalities …..or one of his fellow professional students at that 3rd tier college in N. VA.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pmI’m sure Mexico will take us in. We can take our money with us.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:03 pmShayne,
Check out Costa Rica and Panama. Both countries are quite interested in retiring Americans.
I have spent time in both places and they have great health care facilities and Panama is offering some good tax incentives for ex-pats.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:05 pmI’m just wondering what tactics they’ll try in the VP debates.
McCain’s POW card is non-transferable…
August 29th, 2008 at 10:06 pmPalin’s oice sounds so shrill, she ounds like if put under the least amount of pressure she would cray and start blabbering like a little girl.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:06 pmI hope Biden drives her to that point.
It’s not such a great idea to dismiss this VP selection out of hand and assume that it spells the end of McCain’s candidacy. Keep in mind that most Americans don’t do a lot of research on the people they vote for; absent some serious criminal indictment of Palin (or video of her having sex with a camel), what most Americans are going to see is an attractive female governor. They’re not going to pay much attention to her feeble resume or that she’s a tool of the oil industry. She used her authority to harass her sister’s ex-husband? Yay! Good for her!
After decades of observation of the American voting public, I am convinced that most people vote purely on an emotional level — how else do you account for working class people voting Republican? If the Democrats make too much of this selection, it will backfire, because it will focus too much attention on a youngish woman rather than the mean old bastid who is actually running for president. Obama has apparently already figured this out, because he’s distanced himself from his campaign team’s criticism of Palin. McCain’s crew has artfully distracted everyone from the Democratic convention by offering up an obscure female candidate, just as everyone is on the convention high in Denver. If the Democrats pay a lot of attention to her, it only serves the Republicans. Best just to snicker and move on.
Other than her anti-choice beliefs and her clear lamprey-like attachment to the oil industry, she is a refreshing choice for the Republicans. She has virtually no baggage, no record, and, well, she’s a “she.”
What should be supremely scary is that the person who is one heartbeat from the Presidency is so obviously and completely unprepared for the job and that McCain has one foot in the grave. The Democrats need to find a way to remind voters of that while at the same time refusing to buy in to her 15 minutes of fame.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:08 pmi think i heard on msnbc tonight that they think the investigation will be complete by october 31. good thing we’re not gambling on just her ethical imbroglio.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pmgummitch said:
“What should be supremely scary is that the person who is one heartbeat from the Presidency is so obviously and completely unprepared for the job and that McCain has one foot in the grave. The Democrats need to find a way to remind voters of that while at the same time refusing to buy in to her 15 minutes of fame.”
Begala said the exact thing tonight on CNN.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:13 pmIf the Democrats pay a lot of attention to her, it only serves the Republicans. Best just to snicker and move on.
I disagree.
After two terms of Cheney, and his unaccountable vice-presidency, it would be politically effective to ask voters if their interests would be well served with an inexperienced boutique candidate being given that kind of power?
Not Ready For Prime Time should be the general Palin theme.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:14 pmgummitch said:
“What should be supremely scary is that the person who is one heartbeat from the Presidency is so obviously and completely unprepared for the job and that McCain has one foot in the grave. The Democrats need to find a way to remind voters of that while at the same time refusing to buy in to her 15 minutes of fame.”
Begala said the exact thing tonight on CNN.
It was quite humorous, He said he was so scared for the country that he was going to send McCain vitamins to try and keep him going in fear of her.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:17 pmAnd, if the Palin stench rises to the national GOP level, they might decide to try a do-over, and get her to resign her nomination for the good of the party.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pmbarfly Says:
After two terms of Cheney, and his unaccountable vice-presidency, it would be politically effective to ask voters if their interests would be well served with an inexperienced boutique candidate being given that kind of power?
With all due respect, that’s because you see Cheney as Beezelbub, lord of the flies. I don’t think most voters are as conscious of Cheney’s influence as you are, nor that most voters are aware of Cheney’s weird interpretation of that annoying piece of paper. They do not understand how much power Cheney has usurped and it’s because they haven’t been beaten around the head with it. People knew about Agnew because he was much more public and because his crimes were widely publicized. Ditto, obviously, Nixon. Cheney? What news media have expended the effort to tell Americans about Cheney and his unitary executive?
August 29th, 2008 at 10:22 pmbarfly Says:
And, if the Palin stench rises to the national GOP level, they might decide to try a do-over, and get her to resign her nomination for the good of the party.
Which is why, less than 12 hours after her name was announced, she’s already being referred to as the next Harriet Meiers.
I seriously doubt there will be a McCain/Palin ticket on Nov. 4th. The GOPers are playing some kind of game, and if I were McStain, I’d be watching my back big time right now.
PEACE
August 29th, 2008 at 10:25 pmThe guy she fired said he didn’t immediately fire the brother inlaw because all the charges they brought up against him were old charges that had happened year before and weren’t relevant to his current behavior. And he said he been involved in police work and had seen families go over board like this all the time. He sounded really reasonable which is why I’m sure the state was willing to pay $100,000 to invetigate her abuse of power and the fact that she lied about the details.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:27 pmNotice that none of the repub talking heads will answer Larry King or Anderson when they are asked if this is the best of republicans to pick for V.P. ? Interesting.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:51 pmUnfortunately there are women that will vote for mccain just because of Palin…just like there are people who won’t vote for Obama because he is black. Disgusting but true.
It also appears she just might have edited her Wikipedia entry:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/21034/4861/159/579549
Note the name of the use that edited it…a one-time user, never posted before, with the name YoungTrigg. Guess what her new baby’s name is? Trig. The edits are pretty damned specific in tone, and just so happen to mesh perfectly with her new role as VP candidate, editing out anything that might be used against her. Too bad Republican politicians don’t seem to be very imaginative, nor do they seem to be very tech savvy, else they’d know a Wiki edit does not cause the previous info to disappear.
Gosh, I sure do hope someone can track down the IP of this YoungTrigg person, and see if it came from the Alaskan Governors office, Palin’s home address, or the IP of a McCain worker, or, best of all, Karl Rove’s IP. That would be bloody awesome.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:07 pmOkay. Let’s never throw the “Obama isn’t experienced” card out there again. She became governor in 2006… She answered a question on the rumors of her becoming VP with the answer “What does a VP do?” Just a month ago… She is being investigated right now… Go do some searches. You’ll see she flip-flopped on why she fired the guy. First she said it was because she wanted him in a new job to focus on alcohol abuse in Alaska. And then, less than a month later, she said she fired him because she didn’t believe that he could control alcohol abuse in Alaska. And she replaced him a guy with a sexual harrassment and letter of reprimand against him. And she knew about it. She has been in charge of a state with more reindeer than people. There is a big different in pushing the button to switch on the lights in a god-forsaken town in Alaska and having your finger on the red flashing button. What happens, God forbid, if something happens to McCain (if he becomes President) and she becomes President. The sad thing is that there are many more competent women he could have chosen from. But he took this decision because he will do everything to become President. He did it because it is good for him. Not what is good for this country. It is a sexist decision trying to play “women” to get their vote. Shame on McCain.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:13 pmA Who’s Who on Sarah Palin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
August 29th, 2008 at 11:35 pmThis will be the early stage of publicly vetting her ignorance of issues.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 pmWe’ve got taxes, social security, Darfur, China debt, international finance, Iranian nuclear non program, and a myriad of other questions for her to fumble, stumble, bumble and entertain us with her non answers.
This does look like the Repukes are going to bait and switch at the convention.
Does a Romney/Huckabee ticket seem too wierd at this point?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pmMcCain met Palin once in February. McCain says he followed her “career” over the next six months. After she met with some campaign folks and the CEO of Hensley Inc. she met McCain.
McCain then says to America…”when you get to know her, you’re going to be as impressed as I am.”
It’s like Bush looking into Putin’s eyes and “seeing his soul”.
This is not sound judgment. This is a campaign decision with his campaign wonks sitting around a table and trying to determine how to shake things up, get people to talk about her rather than the real issues and just win at all costs. Winning has replaced judgment.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:44 pmActually…as I just pointed out, someone using the username YoungTrigg (the name of Palin’s new baby) has been editing the crap out of that entry. It no longer looks like it did 24 hours ago, in a very specific manner. Hopefully, the IP of the person who did this will be tracked down, so we can see if it was Palin, an aide, a member of McCain’s staff, Rove, or whomever.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pmthat’s what i’m talking ’bout, b.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:03 amOMG, does that mean if mccain is elected the price of beer will skyrocket?!
August 30th, 2008 at 12:05 amActually, I’ve been suspecting this for quite some time now as well. The nomination has not been confirmed. This is precisely the kind of dirty pool I would expect from snake-oil salesmen such as those in the modern GOP.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:10 amZoo, I’m going to use your assination insurance line on the wingers I work with…..with your permission.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:18 amThere is a question as to whether she was really vetted – McCain met her once and spoke to her on the phone once when he offered her the job.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:19 amQuite irresponsible behavior for a guy who wants to be a president with good judgment.
Biden could have trouble debating her – she’s a pretty woman, so she will have a head start there – if he’s too tough on her, she will be his victim.
Maybe McCain’s choice is purely cynical.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:21 amSeveral earlier posts here are talking about Obama’s birthplace — he was born in Hawaii, of course, and it was even a state! But the rightwing hate machine is spreading rumors that he was actually born in Indonesia and the birth certificate is fake. LIke all lies about Obama, some people not only believe them, they spread them.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:29 amThere are rumors afloat about Palin’s family.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:31 amIs THAT why I couldn’t google her bio early today?
August 30th, 2008 at 12:37 amtest
August 30th, 2008 at 12:38 amI just have a gut feeling that she’s going to prove as nutso as Michele Bachmann when the pressure of a national race takes its toll.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:39 amAnd, since she doesn’t have the stature to influence the platform, she will be reduced to repeating the talking points while looking prettier than the ol’ guy.
One could make the argument that the GOP has, effectively, conceded the election.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:42 amFlippy Flop-stain?
August 30th, 2008 at 12:43 amSorry for all the posts. Is anyone else having trouble with TP’s, hypothetical, filter?
August 30th, 2008 at 12:44 amOh lawd! If they switch candidates this will be too embarrassing for the US. This will be their final silly ass political stunt.
repugs will continue to be the laughing stocks of the US.
They better let it be known (the switch) so they can fill their empty seats?
The ticket will be faulty no matter whose on their ticket.
August 30th, 2008 at 1:09 amHey wait a minute.
Isn’t pot legal in Alaska?
August 30th, 2008 at 1:13 amShe said her son enlisted right after the disasters. So why is he pulling his first tour in 2008?
August 30th, 2008 at 2:27 amMarie, My hope is that he gently, warmly, slices her liver out during the debate.
August 30th, 2008 at 2:33 amPot is legal in Alaska, and Gov. Palin has Admitted to Smoking it.
Gov. Palin’s son did enlist in the Army on Sept. 11 (coincidence?) but it was on Sept. 11 2007. He is set to deploy to Iraq on, (you guessed it)Sept. 11. May he be safe, and return safe and soon to his family.
Larry Mahnken has a thoughtfull approach to Gov. Palin, which is worth checking out:
The Right Way To Approach Palin’s Inexperience
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/55459/0337/792/579925
Obama needs to apply the same criteria to Governor Palin that he applies to himself, namely, that it’s not how much experience you have, but whether you have the judgment and knowledge to do the job better than your opponent. He should come out very explicitly say that Governor Palin’s experience is irrelevant, what matters is her ability to be the leader of the free world.
It will take the issue off the table not just for Palin, but for Obama. The election will have to take a different direction, and at this point that looks like a definite positive for Senator Obama.
Not only that, but dismissing her inexperience actually raises the bar for her, while calling her inexperienced lowers it. If she were to come out in the debate and actually appears reasonably knowledgeable about foreign policy to the average American, calling her inexperienced beforehand would help her. But if you say it doesn’t matter, then she’s going to be compared to Joe Biden, not a low expectation.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:11 amwhat is it with the right wing and death? They seem obsessed with it.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:34 amsomeone scrubbed the admission to smoking marijuana from her wikipedia page. i think this link might give you the cached page from 8/21/08. From the 8/21 version:
it’s sourced to an August 6, 2006 article in the Anchorage Daily News.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:31 amDon’t worry, Sarah, the Iraqis have their own plan to end the occupation. (It’s not a war.)
August 30th, 2008 at 11:43 amFred Says:
aceomalley7 Says:
I’ll check back with you folks in early November when she’s dancing on your graves…
what is it with the right wing and death? They seem obsessed with it.
I guess it’s because they find life to be a burden.
August 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pmJohnKerryTroll. Why do you post here? You are nothing but a worthless ignorant troll with the intellectual capacity of a ball of lint
August 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pmaceomalley7 Says:
I’ll check back with you folks in early November when she’s dancing on your graves…
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Do the world a favor and hold your breath til THAT happens troll. Get ready for an Obama win because no WAY will the McStupid that the beaty queen win this election.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:18 amaceomalley7 Says:
Your fear is palpable…
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HA, monuments could be built to your stupidity
September 1st, 2008 at 1:19 amaceomalley7 Says:
so is your anger…
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AND more monuments to your ignorance. Thanks for letting us know what the Oxymoron has instructed his hivemind minions to be regurgitating THIS week. Got it everyone its liberals are angry week.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:22 amaceomalley7 Says:
Too bad for you…
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Too bad you are so stupid
September 1st, 2008 at 1:29 amaceomalley7 Says:
I’m suffering from a simple differnce of opinion…
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You are suffering from the lack of a functioning cerebral cortex. Go back to your bridge troll, the adults are trying to talk and we already heard your insufferably ignorant talking points before.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:33 amaceomalley7 Says:
My friend was right…trolling you losers is fun…
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Your friend must be as stupid as you, that is quite an accomplishment. People with actual LIVES, instead of pathetic live in their mommys basement losers like you and your friend have the resources to have REAL fun.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:36 am