Loyal Bushie: Palin pick is ‘disrespectful to the office of the presidency.’
By on Aug 30th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Loyal Bushie: Palin pick is ‘disrespectful to the office of the presidency.’
In his Political Playbook column, Politico reporter Mike Allen reports that one Bush loyalist is extremely troubled by McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin:
BIGGEST QUESTION ABOUT PALIN: If it said something admirable about President Bush that he chose a running mate who would be more helpful in governing than in campaigning, what does it say about Senator McCain that he did the opposite? One of the most loyal Bushies calls the selection “disrespectful to the office of the presidency.”
Update In her press briefing yesterday, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said, "The White House is energized and excited by this choice. President Bush called Governor Palin just before his meeting with President Kikwete of Tanzania. He said that the McCain-Palin ticket is very strong. He wished her good luck, told her that she will be a fantastic vice presidential candidate, and that he is looking forward to a great victory in November."
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uh-oh, looks like all the Bushies are not going to march in lockstep…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pmBush approves???
Kiss… of… DEATH…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pmThis still doesn’t explain how Bush, himself, isn’t disrespectful to the Office he occupies, or Cheney’s for that matter…
If Loyal Bushies wish to go on diatribes about who is and isn’t respectful of Public Service, they need to take some much needed inner reflection.
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August 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pmThat’s Karl Rove talking.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:19 pmBush didn’t get his hand on Palin’s tush while she wore a beach volleyball bikini. Now that would be respectful for the George W. Bush Presidency!
For the Bush White House to regain respect, it will need gallons of betadine, cases of Freehdhem, and a sound flushing. Say goodbye to George W. as his ship swirls around the bowl…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pmCitiDC Says:
That’s Karl Rove talking.
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One little improvement, if I may?
“That’s KKKarl Rove talking… out of his butt… AGAIN!!!”
S’okay???
August 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm#3Max-1, …Inner reflection was never their strongest suit, this bunch is for outer distruction….P. B. & J
August 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pmWhen is James A. Baker going to pull the reigns back from this petulant bunch?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pmWhat’s Bid Dick think of her? Too bad Agnew isn’t around to cheer her on.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pmIt’s interesting that this thread is implying that what a Bush Loyalist believes is credible and/or relevant.
Must be a first.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:24 pmIf she’s upsetting Bush Loyalists, maybe voters should consider why.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pmbackup Says:
Must be a first.
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Actually, it’s not, but if it makes you feel better, you can believe that.
You must be new here. Cool bow tie.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pmHeckuva job, Sarie, Baby!
The time has come, the walrus said as they crowned her Miss Alaska. Now you know why Sarie was a runner-up and will be again in November, if she lasts that long. When you have the backing of the Mad Hatter what can you expect.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:27 pmI’m sure that Gustov Dobson will like what he sees.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pmJust more proof Palin is a total loser, and that McCain lets others make all his decisions. Sad.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pmCan we expect a resounding endorsement from Jabba the Kissinger?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pmbackup Says:
If she’s upsetting Bush Loyalists, maybe voters should consider why.
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Well, having just been over to a couple of righty websites, to have a good laugh, let me sum it up w/ some of your fellow GOOPers’ own words…
“When the dust settles…. Palin = McCain’s Gas Tax Holiday gimmick”
Or…
“All this feigned, baseless, whistling-past-the-graveyard “enthusiasm” will last about as long as the typical Hollywood marriage. POOF!”
Or…
“I understand McCain plans to pick his Secretary of Defense by talking to the guy at the drive-thru window at Burger King.”
And this is the one I liked best…
“It’s Gidget and Gramps! This is the most laughable, pathetic ticket since, since, since ….. ever.”
Gidget and Gramps… comedy gold, I’m telli’ ya…
Oh, BTW, love the bow tie…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pmOK, she’s the Maverick’s maverick pick.
Next question, is she Brett or Bart?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pmSpeaking of KKKKarl, an enterprising soul has put up signs in the DC Pallisades neighborhood (KKKKarl’s neighborhood) that say “Karl Rove who are you going to smear today?”
Rove probably has to drive past them every day.
Southeastern corner of MacArthur Blvd and Dalecarlia Parkway, in case you’re interested.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pmMcCain’s the sidekick…does that make Palin his dog?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pmFestus McCain can really pick the gooduns.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pmRUCerious Says:
Next question, is she Brett or Bart?
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Oooo! I know… I know… the southbound end of a northbound…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm“It’s Gidget and Gramps! This is the most laughable, pathetic ticket since, since, since ….. ever.”
Love it. But I was thinking this ticket was more like Homer Simpson and Marge.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pmI thought the ticket looked more like Moe and Larry with Rove as Curly.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pmThis pick won’t give McCain the bounce he needs.
The only question is how big a crater it will cause in the republican electoral landscape.
This choice will also hurt their down-ticket candidates.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pmGrandPa McCoy and Ellie Mae Clampett?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pmIf she’s upsetting Bush Loyalists, maybe voters should consider why.
She’s clearly unqualified to be president. That’s why they’re upset. Don’t you read the papers or watch TV?
Tell us, if she had put her hat in the ring to be president two years ago, would she have stayed in the race until the end and won the nomination, or been drummed out early because she lacks qualifications?
As for the article, I’m more concerned about why they’re anonymously quoting a single source? Isn’t this journalistically unethical?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pmtom Says:
Love it. But I was thinking this ticket was more like Homer Simpson and Marge.
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Palin doesn’t quit have Marge’s charms…
That’s an actual quote, BTW… and if you’re so inclined, watch this Cafferty clip:
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spencers mom Says:
If you haven’t seen this Cafferty Files video, it’s worth a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MVmv1OY6Q
But I warn you, don’t have liquid in your mouth while you watch!
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
RUCerious Says:
Next question, is she Brett or Bart?
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Oooo! I know… I know… the southbound end of a northbound…
August 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
An orange, because a vest has no sleeves!
August 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm“energized” – what does this mean? It’s a hollow buzzword.
August 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pmOK, Wayne. What’s the difference between a duck!~?
August 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pmIt this wasn’t so surreal it would actually be funny. But the more I think about the possibility of those two people being in the highest position of power in this country, it terrifies me.
I am hoping that they underestimated the conservative right by thinking that Palin would make them enthusiastic. If they are smart, they too should be terrified at the thought.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pmI guarantee that Dick Cheney did not like this VP pick! He loathes McCain as it is, and he’s got to love the fact that so many McCain supporters believe that Sarah Palin is capable of doing his job.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pmRight~! One leg is shorter.
See, that makes about as much sense as a Palinomination.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pmRUCerious Says:
OK, Wayne. What’s the difference between a duck!~?
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Why a duck??? Because there is no Sanity Claus, silly…
August 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI’ve been looking at various polls today, and it appears that the Obama bump is holding steady (Gallup is still 49-41). Obama is over the magic “270″ mark, without winning Ohio, Florida or Virginia:
http://electoral-vote.com/
I honestly don’t see this race getting any closer than it is now, and that gap will only widen after the debates.
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 5:05 pmThe thing that makes even less sense than McCain picking her is the people who are defending the pick. “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American People.”
August 30th, 2008 at 5:05 pmSpencers mom, thanks for that link. Jack Cafferty is the only reason to watch CNN any more. And you still have to be careful you don’t stumble over Glenn Beck or Lou Dobbs on the trip.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pmAlan Colmes at Fox News has done some math.
Palin was married 8/29/88 and her son was born 4/20/89. If he was not a month premature, he was conceived before marriage.
Not that we care two whits about that sort of human behavior, but the Robertsons, Dobsons and other fundies may take issue if they do the math themselves.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pmbackup Says:
If she’s upsetting Bush Loyalists, maybe voters should consider why.
How about the FACT that she supported Pat Buchannan for President in 2000.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pmHillary supporters need to get a grip says Jimmy Carter the worlds expert on party division
August 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pmWith Palin and McStain, we get both moose and squirrel.
Rooky and Bullwrinkle!
August 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pmPEACE
I’ll have whatever Wayne, TRoS and RUC are having. Must be some good stuff.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pmDis the woman, business as usual. I just made a contribution to the McCain campaign. Go SARAH!!! Yeah.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pmOsage, you make a good point — Cheney must be highly insulted that McCain would devalue his position as VP by asking Palin.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pmShayne, I never watch CNN, but I do enjoy the Cafferty clips I run across at crooksandliars.com
August 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pmspencers mom Says:
With Palin and McStain, we get both moose and squirrel.
Rooky and Bullwrinkle!
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Wherever you’re buying your material, it’s money well spent!!!!
Nucking futz, indeed!!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Why a duck??? Because there is no Sanity Claus, silly…
How he got in my pajamas, I’ll never know.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pmSo Bushie loyalist thinks McCain is being disrespectful to the office?
Simply stunning.
You can bet he’s “anonymous” because he thinks there’s a possibility he’ll have to ask McCain for a j-o-b.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pmmaur Says:
Dis the woman, business as usual. I just made a contribution to the McCain campaign.
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HAH!!! And just like that, we have a complete waste of money…
Hey, dude… I have a couple of monuments and a bridge for sale… ‘n some land in Florida, too!
August 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pmgummitch Says:
How he got in my pajamas, I’ll never know.
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Confess, Sir! You’ve been in Alabama!
August 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pmOK, Shayne, you have my permission to eat a peanut butter and jelly (marmalade) sandwich, chased with a cup of non fat strawberry yogurt.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pmGoing out to shoot hoops (gotta get ready for my one on one with Barack). Later.
Republic of Stupidity, thanks for the link to the Cafferty Files. He’s priceless and he does air the best emails. I loved the last one: how they’re pandering to the much-needed Eskimo vote. LOL.
Well, at least Palin has won a beauty paegent (although in Alaska that’s akin to Michael Phelps winning a YMCA swimming trophy).
Once Palin gets the requisite veep exposure, it will surely feel like Harriet Miers all over again, as has been pointed out.
Still, I’m concerned about the inevitable fuc*ery that the GOP and their media/vote-counting foot soldiers will surely deliver between now and when FOX news declares that McCain has won by a hair.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pmMarie, I guess she plays fast and loose with all the facts related to her pregnancies. If we can’t believe what she says about her pregnancies how can we believe anything else she says. She’s taking credit for carrying the down syndrome child to term, the wingnuts say how impressive that is to evangelicals. How do they know she even knew the baby had down syndrome, if it isn’t even her’s how do we know she was tested. Sorry I’m watching the news and venting.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pmHey Repub, Obama had his chance, he blew it.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pmlooks like we’ve got some stupid little kid to “thank” for
getting this idiotic VP choice..(snicker)
http://www.slate.com/id/2198949/?y=1
oh wait, it says he’s been on the deans list..oooh, ok, guess he’s not a moron after all..just a smart guy with an idiotic idea..
August 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pmRUC, apparently gummitch got my share.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pmBush called Governor Palin … He said that the McCain-Palin ticket is very strong.
Bush also thinks that the economy is pretty strong, too. ( for corporations and the rich, anyway.) There’s no accounting for the judgement of GW Bush.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pmGlad you got it all figured out Einsteing. Say it lout, I’m dumb and I’m proud. Or you could just put a McCain/Palin sticker on your bumper.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pmIt’s interesting that this thread is implying that what a Bush Loyalist believes is credible and/or relevant.
~backup
No, you silly twit. It just so happens that sometimes it is interesting to find out what the opinion of people on the inside is. And in this case, McCain’s choice is only defended -tooth and nail- by the kool-aid drinkers.
Anyone with a functioning brain is not so sure about the wisdom of picking someone who is under a state ethics investigation.
And as for the experience she would bring to the job, there are (obviously, duh!) questions about that. By anyone, that is- but the aforementioned 23%ers & kool-aid drinkers:
John McCain was aiming to make history with his pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and historians say he succeeded.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pmPresidential scholars say she appears to be the least experienced, least credentialed person to join a major-party ticket in the modern era.
Scholars question Palin credentials
It was bothering me, but I finally figured out who Sarah Palin reminds me of…
On the sitcom Will and Grace, there was a character, Karen Walker, who was played by Megan Mullally. She played a milliionairess who worked for Grace.
She was noted for her shrill/squeaky voice.
Sarah Palin is a dead ringer.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pmIn the off chance the Republicans steal another election and this bimbo is a heartbeat from the Oval Office are we the people going to allow this to stand. It is something to think about.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm>I am hoping that they underestimated
> the conservative right by thinking that
> Palin would make them enthusiastic.
She will get some lip service here and there from some fundies, well paid for, for sure, but deep down, a huge majority of them would not vote for a woman any more than they would a black, no matter how much she agrees with them.
In bible thumper land, women ride in the back seat. period.
This will keep more fundies home than it will bring hillary people to vote for mccain..
August 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pmShayne, I am somewhat reluctant to repeat this, but rumors are all over Alaskaa that the baby is not hers, but actually belongs to her 16 y/o daughter who was out of school for a few months with “mono.”
I cannot verify this anywhere, so whoever reads this should take it with a grain of salt – and know that it is just rumor.
Perhaps dark rumors such as this are not limited only to rightwingers against Michelle and Barack Obama.
I have to go away from the TV when it overwhelms me with frustration and anger. During the week I listen to daytime liberal radio at work. Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow help keep me in balance.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pmI found other parts of the Politico post interesting.
Karl Rove on Fox, re the V.P. debate: “Expectations will be low….” Who picks a V.P. candidate and then highlights their low expectations?
Later, it said “At the Nutter Center…” Yes, America’s nutter politics…
August 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pmmaur Says:
Hey Repub, Obama had his chance, he blew it.
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Short translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah…
August 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pmYour right ArtZ, the voice is the same. Of course Megan Mullally doesn’t speak like that in real live and Sara Palin is that squeaky with an accent right out of the movie “Fargo” when she isn’t trying to cover it up.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pmAlot of woman haters on this blog
August 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pmPalin was married 8/29/88 and her son was born 4/20/89. If he was not a month premature, he was conceived before marriage.
That’s funny! In and of itself, it doesn’t matter a bit to me. However, when I pair it with a point made in an article that I read about her, it makes a big difference. That point was that she and her husband eloped so that their parents wouldn’t have to pay for a big wedding.
My question: why even try to gloss over such a thing and try to rationalize an elopement? Who cares? Or, more correctly, who should care?
This is closely related to the growing skepticism about whether or not she is the mother of the child born this last April. There is gathering evidence that she wasn’t pregnant and that Bristol (her 17-year-old daughter) was absent from school for months with “mono”. Again, who should care?
The real question is why does she compelled to cover up these personal matters by lying. Something is just not right with this woman and I am trusting that it will start coming out in the media.
I think it best of Obama and Biden totally ignore Palin right now. She is one of those trainwrecks that is self-evident and will collapse under its own weight anyway.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm>Bush called Governor Palin …
>He said that the McCain-Palin
> ticket is very strong.
Didnt he also say he knew where saddams WMD were?
According to Pat Robertson, Bush also said “we wont have any casualties in iraq”…
so do you think Pat Robertson is a liar or Bush’s judgement is just terrible?
August 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pmListening to CNN (Blehhh) but a reporter said the McInsane powers-that-be are kicking around some ideas about the convention including making it a huge service (telethon) activity for Gustav. My bet is that’s one way for rhe RNC to up their donations!
And it’s understandable why Bush crime family approves Palin — find tne most highly UNQUALIFIED person you can for the job and run with it. Sarah Palin met their job description. Think she will be ready for the Sept. 26th debate or do you think thet will ask for a postponement???
August 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pmMarie, the first odd thing I heard about this pregnancy is that she was in Texas to give a speech when her water broke. She gave the speech anyway and then boarded a plane back to Alaska because she didn’t want the baby born in Texas. And this would have been two months before her due date. So they’d have us believe that she took the time to give the speech then get to the airport and fly home on her fifth pregnancy with an infant, even if she didn’t know the baby had down syndrome, likely to need neonatal care because he was two months early. I think she believes she can outfox everybody.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm>Alot of woman haters on this blog
Because we don’t like someone whose against womens rights who just happens to have a vag?
Are we allowed to dislike clarence thomas without hating black people also, or is that not part of your “pick a token Uncle or Aunt Tom and pretend we’re really diverse” schtick?
August 30th, 2008 at 5:28 pmNo maury, a lot of us are women that don’t appreciate being insulted like this. The nerve of McHotpants thinking that feminists will be impressed by an animal killing beauty pageant contestant.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:29 pmMarie,
That’s a curious point you make. I “image” Googled Palin last night to get a better look at her (she is a pretty gal) and she supposedly had a baby earlier this year. I saw no indication that she was “with child” in any of those pics. Since most of those pics were fairly recent (based on her very limited time in any office beyond mayor or City Council), I find that odd.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pmOriginally they were talking about postponing the Republican convention because of the hurricane supposedly. I’d guess more because of lack of interest. Then they were saying most likely W wouldn’t attend because of the hurricane, yeah sure.
My guess is after Obama’s speech they were so scared that McCain threw Palin like a Hail Mary pass to try and get people interested enough to show up at the convention.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWow, TP is REALLY hammering on Palin. This is like the 10th post in a row over her.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pmmaur Says:
Alot of woman haters on this blog
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Nothing could be further from the truth.
It’s the GOOP that’s so sexist and misogynistic.
McStain is the one telling rape jokes, dum-dum.
And here’s Anne Coulter on women and voting: “It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 – except Goldwater in ‘64 – the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted.”
It’s the utter, calculating cynicism we perceive behind the choice we’re ridiculing. Ms Palin didn’t run a public campaign and win primary after primary to get to where she is… standing behind an inept, out-of-touch old man.
She was selected, secretly, and abruptly, to, what, become the 2nd most-powerful person in the US Govt, and by extension, the world?
Someone who believes Creationism s/b taught as science?
August 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pmShayne Says:
I think she believes she can outfox everybody.
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Well, in her defense, she did fool most of her fellow Alaskans (prolly too busy kiiling animals to think about it…), plus McStain and his handlers.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:36 pmConservatives calling progressives “woman haters”? How rich is that? We’re talking about the movement that would prefer women to be at home, making dinner and tending to the needs of their “manly” bread-winner.
Dude, that comment makes zero sense.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pmMaur
A few Moronic Gooper Trolls on this blog.
Hint. That means YOU
August 30th, 2008 at 5:41 pmThanks TP for keeping this up. The thought of having this woman a heartbeat away from the presidency is the scariest thing I’ve experienced in my life. And I lived through the Cuban missile crisis when they told us to hide under our desks when we heard the sirens.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pmmaur Says:
Alot of woman haters on this blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Several MORONS here too. Why dont you LEAVE so we will have one less?
August 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pmHey Random, I was a Hillary supporter. Now I am a Palin supporter. Who ever doesn’t think like you is stupid.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pmmaur,
Not that I don’t believe you, but which of Hillary’s positions did you hope to get behind?
If you can’t answer, I’ll have to assume that you’re not being honest.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:48 pmOr maur-ons as the case may be. Yeah you were a Hillary supporter. And I’m Angelina Jolie. Lying sack of cr@p.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pmJay11 Says:
Not that I don’t believe you, but which of Hillary’s positions did you hope to get behind?
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Jay, the only, uh, position of Hillary’s that maur ever hoped to support was the one where she got behind him…
August 30th, 2008 at 5:51 pmBusiness as usual, women get it from all sides.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:51 pmmaur Says:
Hey Random, I was a Hillary supporter. Now I am a Palin supporter. Who ever doesn’t think like you is stupid.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Bullshit. If you supported Hillary, and now support Palin, you were never a true Hillary supporter. Their views are totally opposite.
Try blowing that smoke on redstate, fool.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:52 pmMcNumbNuts was asked a while back about what he’d look for in a running mate. He said the “key” is to find the person “most prepared to take my place” in the event of a crisis. Then, he spent the ensuing months with a motto: “Country first.”
Seem to me that there is a campaign commerical in there somewhere. “Sarah (Failin’) Palin — she’s so inexperienced that she’s the most prepared to take my place. I’m Johnny McNumbNuts and I approved this message, my friends . . . Politics above country.”
August 30th, 2008 at 5:52 pmmaur,
That’s not an answer. If you have one, we can debate. Otherwise, you’re clearly full of it.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:54 pmZooey, I know you can believe it. Your not open minded. It’s O.K. Some year you may evolve.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:56 pmmaur Says:
Business as usual… blah blah blah…
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Lemme fix that for you, maur: Business as usual… troll keeps lying thru teeth, TP posters wrench off arm and beat it over the head /w its own bloody stump.
There… NOW it makes sense.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:56 pmRepub, Why do you need to insult me? Let me remind you this is a free country and I can support any candidate I Wish. That was Hillary now because of Obama oversight, I support Palin. Too bad I don’t want to march in lock step with you.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:59 pmtom Says:
McNumbNuts was asked a while back about what he’d look for in a running mate.
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Come on, Tom… use the REAL QUOTE: He said “the key is to find one that stacks up well in a bathing suit… hey, Cindy, come over here and shake it for ‘em… show ‘em what I mean… hey, wanna hear a good joke? So this gorilla…”
August 30th, 2008 at 6:00 pmTHE CORPORATE MEDIA WAS LOOKING FOR A STORY TO KILL THE EFFECTS OF THE OBAMA SPEECH BUT HOW CAN IT BE NEWS THAT A QUALIFIED HUMAN WAS SELECTED ? SOMEONE HAD TO BE PICKED FOR THE JOB . AMID ALL THE HOOPLA ABOUT THE FEMALE VP PICK ONLY ONE PERSON NOTICED THAT DURING THE INTRO THE REAL JOHN WAS CHECKING OUT THE BACK SIDE OF THE YOUNG LADY . CINDY NOTICED AND WALKED OVER TO HUG HIM BUT HE JUST PUSHED PAST HER AS THOUGH HE COULDN’T BE BOTHERED . “ONCE A JOHN” ALWAYS A JOHN . OR IS IT “ONCE A RAT” ?
August 30th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
maur Says:
Repub, Why do you need to insult me? Let me remind you this is a free country and I can support any candidate I Wish.
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Yes, you may… and I, in turn, am free to ridicule the bejeesus outta you and your utterly disingenous comments. I don’t for an INSTANT believe you were a Hillary supporter, or that you’re truly convinced Palin is a solid choice for VEEP.
Yer a troll, and that’s all you are, and you get treated as such.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:02 pmmaur,
It’s cowardly to avoid a question posed specifically to you on a blog. You are a fraudulent follower of politics.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:03 pmAs usual, Bush has no clue whatsoever.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:03 pmShayne Says:
Marie, I guess she plays fast and loose with all the facts related to her pregnancies. If we can’t believe what she says about her pregnancies how can we believe anything else she says. She’s taking credit for carrying the down syndrome child to term, the wingnuts say how impressive that is to evangelicals. How do they know she even knew the baby had down syndrome, if it isn’t even her’s how do we know she was tested. Sorry I’m watching the news and venting.
One way to find out if the baby is hers is for her to release her medical records. Mccain should release his as well. If they’ve got nothing to hide this should be no problem. However…
August 30th, 2008 at 6:04 pmdasm Says:
As usual, Bush has no clue whatsoever.
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And it would appear that McStain, or his handlers, don’t either…
August 30th, 2008 at 6:08 pmtroll keeps lying thru teeth
Take it easy on maur. It may not be lying about being a Hillary supporter. It could be a brain-dead ditto-head who signed up for Limpballs’ Operation Chaos and crossed over to vote for Hillary in a primary.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:08 pmmaur Says:
Alot of woman haters on this blog
August 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
More psychological projection at work here? We don’t hate women. We hate lying, treasonous, untrustworthy Republicans. (I do, anyway.) It has nothing to do with whether or not she also happens to be a woman.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:09 pmOkay, don’t read this if you’re easily offended, but
I’m seeing McStain on MSNBC with a huge “country first” sign, and it got me to thinkin’
“Palin: Putting the C*unt in Country First”
Sorry, but I’m a woman so I’m allowed to slam my own sex.
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 6:09 pmtom Says:
Take it easy on maur.
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That sentiment is SOOOOOO “2003″. I’m out for blood these days…
Oooooooh, trollie??? Where’d ya go, li’l trollie????
August 30th, 2008 at 6:10 pmStories other than Palin of intereste to progressives:
1. Did ABC producer get arrested outside the Mid-day Energy Reception (reported by the Houston Chronicle)? The time of day is right. Who, as in which elected representatives, went inside while the police carted off the press?
2. Who does George W. Bush want to attack, given his press on Congress to re-declare war on al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated organizations? Who are the mysterious affiliated groups in George W.’s sights?
3. How many top Bushies are on vacation as Hurricane Gustav heads into the Gulf? Three years ago, Card, Rice, Bush, Townsend, and Cheney were taking time off. Joe Hagin was the man in charge of the White House’s Katrina response.
I’m sure there are dozens more stories, but I thought I’d offer a few for consideration.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:15 pmspencers mom Says:
Well gracious me! Well I never did! What is this world coming to when mothers of spencers can just go aroung willy nilly telling all and sundry “Cee you next Thursday”? I shall needlepoint strong letter to my pastor immediately!
:)
August 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pmA word to the wise, Mr. McCain. I wouldn’t go “hunting” with Ms. McMoosekiller… She’s never bagged an elephant, that I know of, and she is very ambitious…
August 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pmSorry, 5th, didn’t mean to offend! Shhh! Don’t tell my son!
Now get that needlepoint going!
Gotta run, McStain’s reading a lovely piece of fiction about someone coincidentally named Sarah.
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 6:22 pmPalin is claiming that she said “thanks but no thanks for that bridge to nowhere. If we wanted a bridge, we’d build it ourselves.”
Hmmmm… doesn’t seem to jive with the facts!
BUT, she says she stood up to the “Good Old Boys Network.”
Well, I’m sold!
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 6:29 pmmaur Says:
Hey Random, I was a Hillary supporter. Now I am a Palin supporter. Who ever doesn’t think like you is stupid.
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Well I dont know about that but YOU sure are stupid
August 30th, 2008 at 6:32 pmmaur Says:
Zooey, I know you can believe it. Your not open minded. It’s O.K. Some year you may evolve.
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YOU are a couple of rungs below pondscum on the evolutionary ladder. If I were you I wouldnt talk to much about evolving
August 30th, 2008 at 6:34 pmReally spencers mom, she doesn’t let a little thing like the facts slow her down at all. She said exactly the same thing she did yesterday with the same unoriginal one liners and they’re all saying what a great speech it was. She did say her oldest daughter was on the bus with the baby. I think it’s time she stopped using the lie that she carried a baby with down syndrome. It’s likely that the daughter was never even tested for it or had an ultrasound since they were trying to keep the whole story quiet.
We want medical records.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:41 pmSnap out of it spencers mom, you’re in danger of crossing over to the dark side.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:42 pmMcCain’s selection for VP is disrespectful to the entire electorate, to you and I, not just to the office of the Presidency.
In America we have come to believe that the honor we bestow to our elected leadership through the acclamation of our vote is predicated on a certain modicum of measured track record. There is just absolutely none here to measure with Palin.
This is sexist. It is degrading to our common sense. It’s a B Movie at Carnegie Hall.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:42 pmWhile I agree with the concern of said loyalist, I have a hard time thinking that any “Loyal Bushie” gives a sh*t about respecting the office of the presidency.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:43 pmHere is Palin as a Sports reporter on local Alaska TV. Republicans will be so impressed. :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-from-tv-sport_n_122676.html
August 30th, 2008 at 6:45 pm“Palin: Putting the C*unt in Country First”
spencers mom — I am offended! I am totally offended!
I made a similar joke and got slapped down but good. You got a mild scolding. I am offended! I tell you I am offended!
I am getting so tired of the male-bashing here.
[sarcasm off]
August 30th, 2008 at 6:51 pmSarah Palin – Journalism degree from University of Idaho , former sports reporter and runner-up in a beauty pagent ; who could ask for anything more ?
I can just picture Ahmadinejad , Kim Jong-il and Putin gathering together and pissing themselves laughing if the GOP steals another election ……….
August 30th, 2008 at 6:52 pmShayne, you know you don’t have to worry about me crossing over. I just couldn’t resist because it popped in my mind when I saw that banner again!
I said it on the other thread, but I’ll repeat here:
The GOP gives us both moose and squirrel
Rookie and Bullwrinkle ‘08
This time I spelled rookie correctly…
PEACE
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So Bush expects a “great victory in November.” Yes, it will be a great victory in November when Barack Obama and Joe Biden take the reigns. Not perfect, but infinitely better than what we have now.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:55 pmNot perfect for sure, Dean/Obama would have been more like it for me, but if there is justice in this world, the conservative movement gets crushed in November.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pmspencers mom Says: #120
Rookie and Bullwrinkle ‘08
ROTFLMMFAO
August 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pmF uck off, rhf.
Kisses!!
August 30th, 2008 at 7:09 pmRHF, I truly believe that if Hillary had stated that her vote authorizing BushCo to use force was, in retrospect, a mistake in light of how the war was conducted and the lies that were used to sell it, she would be the Democratic nominee right now. I have a great deal of respect for Hillary, but I see this one issue as being responsible for her ultimate loss. I have never bashed Hillary, never, but I am also not sorry for the outcome of the primaries.
Having said that as nicely as I can, let me move on to tell you to STFU when it comes to talking to the folks here, and Zooey in particular. Calling her “sweetie” is degrading and misogynistic.
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 7:12 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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August 30th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Wasn’t she lauded and given props for both her terrific speech and for stopping the vote count and conceeding ?
What in the hell is it that you Hillary backers are looking for ?
The Dem convention is over ; either get behind Obama and work on helping straighten out the mess created over the last 8 years , or vote for more of the same and be (rightfully) ostracized for years afterwards…………
August 30th, 2008 at 7:15 pmRepublicans hate facts,
With all due respect, my impression of the progressives (especially those discussing it in the blogospehre) that could not stomach getting behind Hillary were disappointed in her stance on the war, her strong ties to the “Establishment” (she was cozying up to Ruppert Murdoch if you recall), her hard slant toward the middle (in which she herself ridiculed the boisterous lefty bloggers), etc. The list goes on.
She made her own bed. People were sick and tired of the same ol’ BS.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:19 pmrhf,
Thank you soooooo much for visiting The Zoo and not commenting. I really hate cleaning up troll shit.
In case you’re wondering about the facts behind the “running maid” issue, it was a simple translation error made by a Zoo Critter who’s first language is German — and it was corrected as soon as it was discovered.
Of course, we ALL know you’re not really interested in facts — only the voices screaming in your teeny pin head.
Tooooooooodles!!
August 30th, 2008 at 7:27 pmrhf,
Who is Mary Matalin married to? Who spearheaded the Clinton’s political operation prior to Bill’s election? Do you understand how close the ties are between Cheney and the Clinton’s? It’s disgraceful. I will grant you that Biden is of the same ilk, agreed. I do not trust Joe Biden one scintilla.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:32 pmIdea!!
Let’s take a poll!
Who is bat shit crazy?
Zooey?
August 30th, 2008 at 7:33 pmor
RHF?
In the end, I don’t care who represents the D’s, they’re getting my vote. The GOP is an openly criminal enterprise, the Dems just dabble.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:34 pmrhf can vote for mccain/palin if it wants to, but don’t whine when what’s left of our democracy is crushed under the weight of the right wing theocracy. idiot.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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republicans hate facts Says:
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August 30th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Wasn’t she lauded and given props for both her terrific speech and for stopping the vote count and conceeding ?
What in the hell is it that you Hillary backers are looking for ?
The Dem convention is over ; either get behind Obama and work on helping straighten out the mess created over the last 8 years , or vote for more of the same and be (rightfully) ostracized for years afterwards…………
You could read those links I posted and find out, or you could just posting empty questions without ever being concerned about what those supporters are ‘looking for’…
Ostracized? ROTFL! Such idle threats and such stupid posts as I always expect from you… Grow up, MORON.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
How many people now admit to voting for Chimpy , dipshit ?
You’re gonna’ be viewed in that same group , if you vote for McDepends or a 3rd party candidate or not at all.
BTW
You’ve been crying about the demise of Hillary’s presidential candidacy for what seems like forever , and also stupidly have intimated that you yourself are contemplating not voting at all , while trying to present that as some sort of threat.
Shut the fu(k up already , you stupid , mindless Hillary backing tool ; why in the hell should d0uchebags like yourself be placated when all you’re doing is trying to use extortion-type tactics ?
Ms Clinton herself said you should get behind Obama ; yet , that still isn’t enough for your whining , pansy b1tch ass.
Sit down and shut the hell up …….
August 30th, 2008 at 7:36 pmBy the way rhf, I strongly disagree that Biden is “far more in bed with the establishment” than Hillary Clinton. Neither of us can prove that definitively. Obama, however, is not.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
If you are this obnoxious when you lose in a fair match what would you be like if you won…..I don’t even want to know.
I really don’t think you can speak for most Hillary supporters. In fact I’m not sure you are speaking for any of them. They seem for the most part to be unified with the rest of the democrats to help get Obama elected instead of mccain.
You really should come into the new month….it’s August now.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:41 pmzooey — I tried to log on to your site but could not.
I have a thought about the entry celebrating that Obama’s speech got 40 million viewers. Someone posted a response to the effect that McNumbNuts won’t be able to top that.
Actually, I do hope that at least 40 million people do follow the republican’t funeral — er, convention.
The only want to ensure an informed electorate is to have folks engaged directly in viewing this sad spectacle. I fear that, if viewership is low, the LIV will get their information second-hand from the likes of FoxSnooze, Limpballs, Insanity and Wiener Nation. We all know how well that worked for us in 2000 and 2004.
Failin’ Palin and McNumbNuts are two trainwrecks just waiting to happen. I plan on watching so I can see it as it happens.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:46 pmRHF:
This is from the article you posted….
This newly manufactured media attack on Clinton is just the latest in a long line of press grenades thrown her way this year. But this time, she’s not the only victim, because the media’s concocted story line is being used to unfairly skewer Barack Obama, too.
Consider New York magazine: “Obama Agrees to Roll-Call Vote for Clinton. Does That Make Him a Sissy?”
You just proved the biased nature of the “media attack” is against Obama & Hillary. It’s not just against her it’s against Obama also. The media basically called the next potential President of the United States a “SISSY”. If that isn’t bashing, insulting,”throwing a press grenade”,and biased I don’t know what is…..
So it’s okay with you if they trash Obama & wife Michelle???
August 30th, 2008 at 7:47 pmrhf,
I read the NYTimes article. It sounds as if it were written by the McCain campaign. This is the storyline that they are trying to push, those are the ideas that they want Americans to believe. It smacks of bullshi* quite frankly, the Hillary supporters that would jump ship to the GOP due Palin are badly misinformed, surface followers of the issues and politics in general. If you have been paying attention for these last 8 years and you have a soul, you cannot vote for McCAin. Period.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pmHmmmmm, stick around and witness the implosion of RHF’s cute little noggin? Or work on my Symbolic Logic homework…..?
Jeebers, RHF, my little sunshine, cutie pie, babes, cupcake, honey, sweetie darlin’, learning the language of first-order logic is just WAY more fun than you.
Don’t cry now, honey. I’ll be back.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm#145 tom Says:
zooey — I tried to log on to your site but could not.
I have a thought about the entry celebrating that Obama’s speech got 40 million viewers. Someone posted a response to the effect that McNumbNuts won’t be able to top that.
Thanks for coming to the zoo tom, I posted that. :)
August 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pmHi willy, I rest my case.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:51 pmthanks, fr
August 30th, 2008 at 7:52 pmrhf,
Please address my previous point about Carville/Matalin. Them are some flea-ridden dogs the Clinton’s lay with.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:52 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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I would say you are largely correct, that the majority of the Hillary supporters now do in fact support Obama. That’s never been the issue. The issue is that about 20% of the Democrats are not supporting Obama fully – and if you read those articles I linked to you’ll understand why…
August 30th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I have read them and do understand why ; because they’re morons like yourself.
They are only interested in the gender of Palin ; they mention that Palin being pro-life is only “somewhat” of a problem.
They never mention that Palin is an anti-science , anti-enviromental religious nutball ; something Ms Clinton is not about , not even close.
Even slightly considering voting for McDepends because Palin is on the ticket and only because she’s female , is just as disingenuous and fraudulent as Johnny boy’s reason for picking her for the VP slot………..
August 30th, 2008 at 7:53 pmtom Says:
August 30th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Sorry tom, apparently you need a different Wordpress log in from the one you use here. It’s a real pain in the butt.
I think you have a point about the GOP Convention getting 40 million viewers! Nice!
August 30th, 2008 at 7:53 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
that Zooey Says:
In case you’re wondering about the facts behind the “running maid” issue, it was a simple translation error made by a Zoo Critter who’s first language is German — and it was corrected as soon as it was discovered
Really? Sounds like an excuse…
rhf, in how many languages can you speak, read, and write?
August 30th, 2008 at 7:56 pmIn response to 157:
I respectfully recommend that you get over it. I watched Tina Fey and Amy Pohler on SNL openly beg millions of viewers to vote for Hillary. I saw Obama get spanked by the MSM as often if not more often than Hillary did.
Fact is, it doesn’t matter at this point, politics is a sleazy game and regardless of how Obama beat Hillary, it’s over.
None of that will compare to the onslaught that Obama/Biden are about to encounter.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:59 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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August 30th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Hey dipshit
I’m not “threatening you” in any way . The woman you claim to back to the bitter end has pleaded with your moronic ass to back Obama ; not voting for him will be letting down Ms Clinton , you mindless cretin , not me.
The only “threat” I’m throwing out there is to be prepared for a McDepends presidency that those with a similar mindless mindset such as yourself will allow to happen through your own selfishness , ignorance , stupidity and arrogance.
BTW
I’m about as “sexist” , “homphobic” and “misogynistic” as you are intelligent , rational and reasonable………….
You are truly a foul creature.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pmI was over at redstate and one of the posts is a comparison
of Palin VS Obama and under the heading of “public opinion”
she is “smoking hot in a naughty librarian sort of way”
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/#comments
August 30th, 2008 at 8:02 pmrhf,
What exactly is your point here? Are you prepared to support McCain? Are you torn?
August 30th, 2008 at 8:03 pmOh lordy, somebody call a waaaaaaaaaahmbulance for RHF.
Need a tissue?
August 30th, 2008 at 8:05 pmZed Lefflin Says:
I had a gasmo in my jammies…
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And this was from getting “jerky”, I believe you said?
August 30th, 2008 at 8:05 pmlurker Says:
I was over at redstate and one of the posts is a comparison
of Palin VS Obama and under the heading of “public opinion”
she is “smoking hot in a naughty librarian sort of way”
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Yeaaaaaaaah… but, but… they’re not “sexist” over there.
No, really, McStain picked her ’cause she’s soooooo qualified… to win the Swimsuit Competition, or at least finish 2nd!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pmGeez Z… you guys have managed what I couldn’t all day… you’ve driven all the trolls away. Nice work…
August 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Geez Z… you guys have managed what I couldn’t all day… you’ve driven all the trolls away. Nice work…
August 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Nah, RHF is still here. ;)
August 30th, 2008 at 8:10 pmYou’re a concern troll plain and simple, rhf.
You feign outrage that you’re being ostracized and/or misunderstood and yet you don’t hear the overriding theme. The “abandoned Hillary” voter issue was friggin created by the rightwing! Wake up.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:12 pmWayne A. Schneider Says: #159
rhf, in how many languages can you speak, read, and write?
Republicans only speak one language, righteousness.
That’s the only way they can justify their deeds. Lie and if cuaught, lie again. If caught again after that, lie again even more. Then spin. Spin, spin, spin and spin again. When questioned, lie and lie again.
A vicious cycle. The more you can spin and lie with impunity, the more money you make. Its that simple. No loyalties, no barricades.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:13 pmMs. Palin, so far as I can tell, will serve only to highlight the degradation of the GOP. Her only national identity comes from her status as a psycochristian, and those she appeals to wouldn’t vote for a Dem if you set them on fire. And some may balk at voting for a woman as VP.
Even if a few hundred nuts vote McCain because he picked a woman? He’s done nothing to strengthen his appeal to rational people.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:14 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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August 30th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Hey dipshit
I’m not “threatening you” in any way . The woman you claim to back to the bitter end has pleaded with your moronic ass to back Obama ; not voting for him will be letting down Ms Clinton , you mindless cretin , not me.
Actually dipshit you ARE threatening me to be ostracized… You’re a first class LIAR and MORON. Actually Hillary isn’t in the race any more, and unlike you I can THINK and REASON for myself…
The only “threat” I’m throwing out there is to be prepared for a McDepends presidency that those with a similar mindless mindset such as yourself will allow to happen through your own selfishness , ignorance , stupidity and arrogance.
No, you threatened to OSTRACIZE me for my vote, and it’s YOU that is IGNORANT and STUPID and SELFISH – read the links TARD!
BTW
I’m about as “sexist” , “homphobic” and “misogynistic” as you are intelligent , rational and reasonable………….
You are truly a foul creature.
I agree, that’s why you really should consider going the GOP… I’m the foul creature? ROTFL!! Read the links, you misogynistic PIG!
August 30th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Reading and comprehension problems , eh chucklehead ?
Point out to where I specifically state that “I” will personally ostracize you , you lying , stupid bag of silly smelly shit…………You can’t , because it doesn’t exist.
And what does Hillary not being in the race any further , have anything to do with my statement that she did indeed ask those who backed her (look in any mirror , so long as it hopefully doesn’t shatter , for a clue as to whom she might be referring to) , to now BACK OBAMA , you stupid fu(king retard.
Ignoramus , I already put up a post , and I already stated that I READ THE SHITTY THREADS/LINKS you provided , you uncomprehending twit.
Lastly , there is no one here more like a GOP/Chimpy nut hugging tool than the one currently calling themself “republicans hate facts” ; you are a world class LIAR AND A STUPID BASTARD.
You could possibly be a relative of McDepends………Or Chimpy……….Perhaps even both.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:14 pmZed Lefflin Says:
“A few bong hits and a polished knob was all I need to achieve happiness.”
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Dude, the rest of here really DO NOT need to know what yer up to in yer jammies…
August 30th, 2008 at 8:15 pmYep repugs love the US
Yep repugs love the common person
Yep repugs love our troops
Yep repugs love our democracy
yep yep yep
Y E P
Obama\Biden for US 08
August 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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The Republic of Stupidity Says:
lurker Says:
I was over at redstate and one of the posts is a comparison
of Palin VS Obama and under the heading of “public opinion”
she is “smoking hot in a naughty librarian sort of way”
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Yeaaaaaaaah… but, but… they’re not “sexist” over there.
No, really, McStain picked her ’cause she’s soooooo qualified… to win the Swimsuit Competition, or at least finish 2nd!!!
As much as that might be true, you have to be careful about that line of attack. By simply saying that she’s there not because she’s qualified and because she’s a woman you play right into the hands of the GOP who are saying that Democrats are the sexist ones – see the primaries for proof. Unfortunately the mainstream media made this possible with the constant sexism during the primaries and without any resistance from the Obama supporters and the DNC. Now if you want Obama to win you have to be careful and check in with whether your response might in fact be a sexist one or perceived as such even if you don’t mean it to be. This is how McCain intends to peel off on the fence Democrats – and if it works it will be driven partially by well meaning Obama supporters such as yourself…
August 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
How is pointing out the glaringly obvious fact that she IS NOT QUALIFIED and only there , even more obviously , is solely because of her gender , being “SEXIST” ?
Do you actually know what the hell the term even means ?
You’re truly insane……………
August 30th, 2008 at 8:20 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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McMoron, if you read the threads, and understood them you wouldn’t have made that last stupid post. Clearly you are beyond reason, beyond help, beyond hope. If you wish to ‘be’ right, just keep telling yourself that you are and helping to destroy the opportunities of your candidate… It’s your free speech right to do so…
As for the rest of your post – just f*** off you ignorant dipshit.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look who’s accusing another of claiming they believe they’re “always right”.
You’re a fu(king imbecile , and contribute absolutely nothing to this site , save some unintended hilarity and zaniness with your galactically stupid statements and accusations.
You truly are a foul creature and a sorry little piece of shit.
As I stated before , shut the fu(k up and sit down , jackass ; you possess all the brilliance of a used , wet fu(king bar rag……..
August 30th, 2008 at 8:24 pmrhf is a troll, no question. A skillful troll, but a troll nonetheless. Nobody dwells on a single, foolish issue so persistently, so stubbornly unless there is some 1st rate fuc*ery at work.
No more bait for me.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:26 pmSo? We have a man who has been unbalanced by his lust for power, and Believes he’s a war-hero, and a woman who thinks that Jesus will forgive all our mistakes. They are running against a brilliant young orator paired with one of the most respected politicians in the Senate.
I think any sane person would see the obvious choice.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:28 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Now if you want Obama to win you have to be careful and check in with whether your response might in fact be a sexist one…
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You don’t need to tell me what my intentions are when I comment. I’m quite aware of what I’m saying.
On the other hand, if you want to give me personally enough authority to influence other voters with my silly remarks, then, hey I’m flattered.
The MSM and the trolls are ones commenting on Ms Palin’s looks as thought they somehow qualify her for the, uh, “position”.
As far as McStain being able to pick off fence sitters in this manner, I think you give him too much cred. He doesn’t even know which state he’s in half the time.
The more regular folks learn about “the lovely Sara” the more turned off they’ll be. Go check out the righty sites… a lot of their posters are already absolutely incensed at this silly choice. I’d be surprised if Ms Palin lasts more than a couple of weeks, especially if that baby does turn out to be her daughter’s.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pmPalin booed for mentioning Hillary…
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/30/palin-booed-for-mentioning-hillary-clinton/
wheres exley been? maybe now he will finally show up to talk about the substaniative issues.. like whether she actually got booed or not..
August 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pmZed Lefflin Says:
“I still have a few pairs of “parachute pants” from the early 80’s…. some in camo even, I can cover up my whole body sos just the tip of my head is exposed…”
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You’re doing this on purpose, aren’t you???
Like I said before… we really don’t care how much knob polishing you like to do in yer jammies… saaaaay… is this Dennis Miller? I mean, the desperate attempt to be funny/edgy… the complete and utter failure to do so…
August 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pmI couldn’t agree more, TROS. The more I learn about Ms. Palin, the more she resembles Michele Bachmann. Even if a “fence sitter” is leaning towards McCain, she should scare them off. It continues to look like the GOP is trying to throw the election.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:35 pmI also read the groups who love animals has tons of dirt on her and they are ready to run ads.
repugs continue to make a mockery of our ideals, our hardship, our fight and our hope.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:36 pmOn a more progressive” note. Thoughts on Obama’s acceptance speech?
I was more than impressed. He hit all the right notes, was appropriately confrontational. He talked specifically about what this country means to him and him family. It was a brilliant speech and even more impressively delivered. He may not be as crafty as Bill Clinton or as blunt as a Howard Dean, but he damn well brings his A game when it counts.
Brilliant, hopeful, fightin’ speech. More of that please!
August 30th, 2008 at 8:38 pmThat’s not change we can believe in my friends.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:42 pmpete Says:
I couldn’t agree more, TROS. The more I learn about Ms. Palin, the more she resembles Michele Bachmann.
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Aw geez, pete… this is just the first weekend.
After it turned out that Edwards WAS having an affair, I was stunned. Not so much because he was diddling someone other than Mrs Edwards, but because he was arrogant enough to do so while running for President… can you imagine the magnitude of fiasco it would have been if he had been the Official Dem candidate and that came out? What could he have possibly been thinking, or drinking, for that matter?
If it does turn out to be Sarah’s daughter’s baby… can you imagine the circus that’s going to erupt over that? Like I said before, I can’t see Palin making to the election. Didn’t McCain’s handlers vet her at all?
August 30th, 2008 at 8:45 pmGame of Life Says:
I also read the groups who love animals has tons of dirt on her and they are ready to run ads.
Do you have any links? PETA? Better yet, ASPCA? I’m ready to donate to any 527 who is willing to call McStain out for his pick, and the more I know of her, the more I grow to detest her.
Thanks!
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 8:45 pmJay 11′
I agree about the speech. It’s a gift Obama has.
Most Democratic Candidates had good Ideas, but Obama is BEST at selling them. If he is going to have any chance of fixing the mess Bush left us, he’s going to Need to Persuade the American People to Back his plans.
There’s a whole Lot of cynicism, disallusionment, and Vested Interests that will stand in the Way of the Change we Need,
August 30th, 2008 at 8:48 pmBut We Need It.
As long as the debate remains a comparison of Palin’s experience to Obama’s, I think the Republicans will be quite happy with the results.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:52 pmI hope not a one repug benefits from our returning good fortunes when Sen. Obama becomes our elected President of the US. No a one.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:52 pmRegarding momentous political speeches, a small observation.
The fact that they always slip in an anecdote about “a single mom in Ohio” or an “auto worker in Michigan that took a pay cut”…usually it rings hollow, seems contrived. Obama, whether it’s true or not, delivers those anecdotes as if he remembers his conversations with each of these everyday Americans. Another of Obama’s talents.
I also would have liked more time spent on our single biggest challenge as a nation. How, in more detail, will we divorce ourselves from the current fossil fuel paradigm? Just mentioning wind, solar, clean coal and nuclear is not enough. They must have detailed plans for the new “Manhattan project” for transitioning our current energy infrastructure.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:57 pmYes, Palin’s experience vs. Obama’s. I’m sure the Obama campaign is shaking in its proverbial shoes. Go back to wingnutosphere where those fantasies fly.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:59 pmI’m not sure about the Edwards thing TROS. It would have been interesting to see the public’s reaction to head to head comparison between McCain cheating and leaving vs. Edward’s straying then returning.
But, if one starts the “what if” game one would be forced to consider Hillary’s chances if she had divorced Bill’s cheatin’ butt. I think she would have locked the female vote and a good many hen-pecked husbands! LOL!
All that being said, I agree that Ms. Palin could prove to be horribly embarrassing to a campaign which already excels at embarrassing itself. Who knows? Maybe there will be a role call at the RNC and Bill Kristol will be the nominee? Anything can happen in “Backwards Reichworld”.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:02 pmPotfry Says:
As long as the debate remains a comparison of Palin’s experience to Obama’s, I think the Republicans will be quite happy with the results.
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Ye gods… the trolls are sending in the 2nd string…
Why tha foooooooock are they trying to frame this as “Obama Vs the 2nd Place Beauty Queen”? McStain is the Presidential candidate here, NOT “the lovely Sarah”.
Potfry, is your indirect admission that McStain is toast in this election?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:04 pmWhy don’t you take a crack at outlining Obama’s experiential advantages over Palin, Jay11. And try to leave out the “walking on water” stuff– she’s human. Let’s just compare earthly experiences.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:05 pmI think that what you are getting at, Jay11, is that Sen. Obama is an impressive intellect, regardless of politics. If I were his boss I would give him excellent reviews.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:06 pmpete Says:
I’m not sure about the Edwards thing TROS.
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I’m not sure what was going on there either, pete. I’m not sure we’ll ever find out the whole story, and thankfully it went away fast. BUT, if it had been true, and come out during the final legs of the election, can you imagine the size of disaster that would have been?
Again, I wonder, did McStain’s handlers vet Palin at all? I mean, look at all the dirt we’ve turned up just this first weekend…
August 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pmI read an article claiming the windmills cause harm to bats. They claim the windmills creates some sort of current causing the bats to be swooped up into the blades. There for affecting crops.
New ideas will continue to put into place. More high paying jobs.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pmTeleprompted or unteleprompted?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pmPotfry Says:
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As long as the debate remains a comparison of Palin’s experience to Obama’s, I think the Republicans will be quite happy with the results.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Palin’s been shooting moose and pressuring subordinates to have her ex-brother-in-law fired ; Obama’s been writing Bills in the US Senate.
The horseshit GOP believes there are 60 million moose hunters ready to vote for Palin ?
Good luck selling that……….
August 30th, 2008 at 9:09 pmNot at all. I’m saying that anybody on the left who questions Palin’s experience needs to defend Obama’s.
Really, is his experience better than Palin’s? Explain how.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pmPotfry Says:
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Sen. Obama is an impressive intellect
Teleprompted or unteleprompted?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Both
For McDepends ; neither.
He’s galactically stupid with our without the use of a teleprompter……….
August 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pmYou got that right too, TroS. These third stringers from Flippy’s website are not up to the challenge. Of course, what can one expect from someone who still thinks Flippy McSpin is a “maverick”?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pmThe Republicans are talking about Postponing their Convention….supposedly because of Hurricane Gustav. Maybe they want to see how Ms. Palin does with the Voters.
Maybe they fear the TV ratings they are likely not to get.
In any Case, as pointed out by Bill Maher, the Republicans have already packed a Stadium with Screaming Citizens…namely the superdome during Hurricane Katrina.;)
August 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pmSince Obama’s accomplishments are too lengthy for me to list in a single post, I’ll link to his resume and you can try to absorb it all for yourself.
http://obamasresume.org/
Once you’ve finished reading it, please get back to me with Palin’s. We’ll compare notes afterward, K.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pmPotfry Says:
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Potfry, is your indirect admission that McStain is toast in this election?
Not at all. I’m saying that anybody on the left who questions Palin’s experience needs to defend Obama’s.
Really, is his experience better than Palin’s? Explain how.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
He has been writing Senate bills that include funding for our troops , the entire US economy and other national issues and topics ; what the hell does Palin do ?
Give approval for a mooseshit fertilizer plant to be built ?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:13 pmWell troll, what I meant by impressive intellect is that Sen. Obama has proven himself to be a thoughtful, intelligent, person. With, or without, a teleprompter.
Flippy McSpin, on the other hand, has proven himself to be a reckless radical with a limited perception of the world around him.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:15 pmas evidence of Obama’s experience, Jay, you do realize you just linked to a resume that has this in the middle:
Is this what you mean by “too lengthy for me to list?”
August 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pmPotfry Says:
Really, is his experience better than Palin’s? Explain how.
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Uh, Potfrey… we’ve been thru this. We’ve heard about it for weeks now. The contest is between McStain, who doesn’t know where he is half the time, and Obama…
If you want to contrast Ms 2nd Place Alaska w/ someone, Biden is the Other VEEP Candidate…
YOU don’t frame the issues, sonny…
August 30th, 2008 at 9:18 pmI accept that you don’t want to have this debate. I wouldn’t either.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pmYes, that’s the one. I’m more impressed with these details however:
United States Senate 2004-present
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Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
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Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
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Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
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Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
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Member, Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs
..but whatever gets you through the night.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pmAugust 30th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Potfry Says:
Let’s just compare earthly experiences.
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You’re kinda slow on the uptake, aren’t you, potfrey???
One more time… Obama is running against McStain, not “The Ex-Mayor of the 2nd Largest City In Alaska”…
This is a tacit admission on the Right’s part that McStain is over w/. They’re giving up on him and resorting to a silly Rope-a-Dope maneuver…
“Yeah, well… well… let’s see Obama in a swimsuit… huh??? Huh???”
9/11!! 9/11!! uh… POW!!! POW!!! Clinton did her too!! Clinton did her too!!
August 30th, 2008 at 9:23 pmPalin’s comparable body of work please?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:24 pmCmon, Jay. Member? He’s been campaigning for 2/3s of his time in the Senate. He’s demonstrated on at least one occasion that he’s not sure what committee’s he’s actually on.
Please, no more embarrassing links.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:25 pmStupid troll. When one’s main credential is Evangelicalism one is, in my biased view, exempt from public office. Ms. Palin was chosen in the hope that she will draw back the Evangelicons McSpin lost when he was forced to reject Hagee and Parsley.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:25 pmIt seems to me if RHF and other “so-called” Hillary supporters don’t support Obama now, they are showing Hillary the ultimate in disrespect. If you disrespect someone, it’s unlikely that you really supported them in the first place.
People, stop feeding the crazy person RHF. It does no good and just pollutes this site.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:27 pmI’m pretty sure you can’t produce anything close to Obama’s resume. I consider that game, set and match. Goofball.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:27 pmPotfry Says:
I accept that you don’t want to have this debate. I wouldn’t either.
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Debate? What debate?
You keep floating a dishonest premise, I keep knocking down… and you keep going back to the Same Old Shi-ite…
One. More. Time. For your sake.
Obama is running against McStain… not the 2nd Place Beauty Queen…
We’ve been thru “Obama v McStain” for weeks now, and McStain came off as a tired, confused old man (remember the Iraq/Pakistan border gaffe?)…
There’s no reason to compare Obama to “the lovely Sarah”. He’s NOT running against her. She’s NOT the GOOPer POTUS candidate. YOUR premise is false.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:28 pmPotfry Says:
Well troll, what I meant by impressive intellect is that Sen. Obama has proven himself to be a thoughtful, intelligent, person. With, or without, a teleprompter.
Mainly with. Without, he’s a deer in headlights.
So, exactly where in that stadium when Obama gave a 47 minute speech was the teleprompter?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:29 pmSen. Obama should not take the bait, and make the conversation about Experience.
Obama and certainly Biden have a lot More
Experience than Gov. Palin, by any standard…BUT
This election Must be About Judgement, and the ability to Listen and Weigh the Facts. Cheney had experience. Rumsfeld had Experience.
Obama needs to apply the same criteria to Governor Palin that he applies to himself, namely, that it’s not how much experience you have, but whether you have the judgment and knowledge to do the job better than your opponent. He should come out very explicitly say that Governor Palin’s experience is irrelevant, what matters is her ability to be the leader of the free world.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:30 pmNow, shall we compare Obama to McCain or would you prefer to end your embarassment?
McCain missed 42 consecutive Sentae votes. Ouch!
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/05/mccain_misses_42_straight_vote.html
August 30th, 2008 at 9:31 pmYippie! An anonymous source says Palin is bad. What a grand slam, Think Progress.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pmtruthseeker,
Is that all you bring to the table?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:33 pm“Anonymous source“?
No, stupid troll number two. Every bit of information about Ms. Palin, available online, indicates that she’s a religious fanatic who used fear of “liberalism” and Jebus to seize an election. The thought of her in the chain of command is more frightening than Chimpy himself.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pmtruthseeker77 Says:
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Yippie! An anonymous source says Palin is bad. What a grand slam, Think Progress.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Yippie! Another GOP/Chimpy suckhole sycophant , with absolutely nothing to say …………..
August 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pmJay11 Says:
Is that all you bring to the table?
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Apparently so, Jay…
August 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pmRHF says: WAWAWAWAWAWAWAAAAAAH
August 30th, 2008 at 9:42 pmHonestly, these trolls are an embarrassment to their cause. They parrot right wing talking points and they never do their homework. It’s a good thing $$ and media are such powerful forces in American politics, otherwise, they’d have to crawl back under their rocks. Duh.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:43 pmLive in whatever fantasy you wish. The reality is that the only people Ms. Palin will sway are those who think evolution is a demon. And they were not ever going to vote for a “librul” in any case. The GOP failed their last opportunity to gain moderates.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:43 pmThat’s enough for one night.
G’night good people.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:49 pmYou too trolls.
truthseeker77: this is for you.
You are anonymous or I would be knocking on your door to ask who is paying you to be here.
Palin is an insult to me and to most women. Where is Alaska? Can’t they speak up about this woman? Who says she has such an enormous approval rating? Her record has been scrubbed and her brains were washed a long time ago.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:51 pmPlease bear with me, my tinfoil hat is itchy tonight.
According to the story, Palin was pregnant, had prenatal testing (probably amnioncentisis) and discovered that her unborn child had Down’s Syndrome. Baby was due in early May
Here is a pic of her on Super Tuesday, Feb 5th.
http://www.adn.com/politics/v-gallery/story/339576.html?/politics/v-enlarge/story/339576-a339575-t3.html
Now remember, this woman was one week shy of her 44th birthday, and had given firth four times before. Does she look pregnant? At all?
On March 6th, she publicly announced that she was pregnant. Everyone who worked around her on a daily basis was shocked, and no one, repeat, no one could believe that she was pregnant.
showing.http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html
Now, supposedly, during the time leading up to the birth, Palin’s 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was out of school with for three, four or five months, depending on where you read.
On April 17th, Palin was in Texas when her water supposedly broke. Even knowing that she was carrying a special needs child, and that this was her 5th birth (labor/delivery usually shortens each time) she delivered a 30 minute speech, then got on a commercial airline (Alaska Air) and traveled 10 hours back to Alaska, and then 50 miles to the hospital.
I know of no airlines that would even allow a woman in her 8th month to travel, certainly not without a note from her physician, and I highly doubt that a responsible OB would give such a note to a woman of Palin’s age carrying a special needs child, let alone allow her to travel after her water broke.
A 17-year-old having her first baby could, however, take 12 – 36 hours after water breaks to deliver.
Trig was born at about 6:00 a.m. the next day, and Palin was back to work three days later.
Now, I’m not saying it’s true, but it raises issues about her decision making ability at the very least.
Here’s a link with the family photo from March 2008. Check out daughter Bristol on the right:
http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/lofiversion/index.php/t130064.html
Seems the National Enquirer is looking into the story, and as we know from the Edwards/Hunter story, they can be quite thorough.
Okay, enough. Taking off said foil hat now.
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 9:56 pmZed Lefflin Says:
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Must be thru polishing the knob, huh?
Surprised you were gone so long…
I’d suspect yer pretty tuckered out by now, Li’l Feller…
August 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pmspencers mom,
I’d say you were on to something. Something big. If the media hounds do their jobs and get to the bottom of this story, and it turns out that it is her daughter’s child. It’s over.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:03 pmspencers mom Says:
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August 30th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
If that story is indeed true , any health care charges paid by the state on behalf of the child would be grounds for prosecution for insurance fraud……….
August 30th, 2008 at 10:04 pmHow about this photo spencer’s mom:
http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26264-stunning_rumor_mccains_vp_choice_may_have_hid_daughters_pregnancy__claimed_the_baby_as_her_own_.html
August 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pmExcellent post, spencers mom. It’s been the buzz of the day.
MCMetal, I would so love to see this story be true, and that insurance fraud charges get levied. BTW, it wouldn’t matter whose insurance paid for the baby, hers or the people’s, if she claimed to be the mother and really wasn’t. Of that, there is no evidence, but that would be a concern.
Has anyone in the media checked the birth certificate?
August 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pmPete,
I agree with you 100%.
The repugs are so dangerous and crazy. They should never show their discussing faces again. This is terrible match, a ridiculous match.
How is it possible for mcchimpy to chose a woman stupider than him? How can he choose a woman he met two times and the second time was to tell her about her pick as repug vp. WTF?
And the msm are fools to think this is a good thing. A healthy match for the people of the US?
Tomorrow should be interesting…really everyday is going to be interesting. Why do repugs like to be against the US?
August 30th, 2008 at 10:17 pmNow I’m convinced…the Goopers don’t want to win this election!
The Bushco blow-back is just really getting started. The little turds have hit the fan…but the major sh!t is yet to come. Regardless of whom the next administration is they face the insurmountable task of cleaning Chimpy poop off the face of America. This will take more than a single presidency…it could be decades.
Too bad that stenchy, fan blown Chimpy poop will stick firmly to Obama and not where it belongs. Don’t for a minute think that the powers that control Faux News, Rush, etc. are going to go away when Obama wins the presidency. They will do everything in thier considerable power to blame the Bush disaster on Obama. Americans have very short memories…I’m sure the neocons are counting on it.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:25 pmAgain, I’m not saying it’s true, not even say I necessarily believe it, but a 44-year-old woman is considered a high-risk pregnancy regardless of her health, and it is highly suspect that she traveled just 3 – 4 weeks before her due date.
If her family did choose to keep the pregnancy quiet and raise the baby as their child, it’s something that’s been done probably millions of time throughout history, and that’s certainly not the point.
The point is, did they collude to lie about it, possibly commit insurance fraud (there must have been records of the amnio, ultrasounds, prenatal care, etc.) and even falsify the birth certificate?
And here’s another twist I’ll just throw out there… it is unusual, if the daughter was the birthmother, for a healthy teen would have a Down’s baby, which is a genetic birth defect that can occur due to advanced maternal age or from blood relative inbreeding, among other things. The oldest son, Track, enlisted in the Army on Sept. 11th, 2007, which would have been around the time the pregnancy would have been confirmed. Just connecting the dots…
For the sake of their family, I hope none of this is true, but if any media outlet will dig for the truth, the National Enquirer will!
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 10:34 pmbut if any media outlet will dig for the truth, the National Enquirer will!
I hope you are just kidding around here. The National Enquirer is not a news source you should take seriously.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pmYou’d be surprised how good the reporting of the National Enquirer can be. Don’t be surprised when you learn that George and Laura are getting divorced as soon as he’s out of office.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:48 pmIt was the National Enquirer that ferreted out the Edwards scandal, and everyone dismissed it at first. But you know what? They were right!
This is just the type of story they go after best.
And no, I don’t read it, never did read the Edwards stuff, but I do knew they broke the story first!
PEACE
August 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pmAlso, the National Enquirer has been sued, successfully, so many times that they have teams of lawyers and researchers vetting stories before they go to print.
Unlike many, many of the media outlets we all know…
August 30th, 2008 at 10:53 pmspencers mom Says:
It was the National Enquirer that ferreted out the Edwards scandal, and everyone dismissed it at first. But you know what? They were right!
Point taken. The National Enquirer is one of those things I read when in line at the grocery store, just for a laugh! So they actually DO news!?!
August 30th, 2008 at 10:53 pmspencers mom Says:
Also, the National Enquirer has been sued, successfully, so many times that they have teams of lawyers and researchers vetting stories before they go to print.
Unlike many, many of the media outlets we all know…
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Or McStain and his handlers, for that matter…
August 30th, 2008 at 11:00 pmI think Sarah is going to find out what the real world is like. I think she’s been getting away with spreading bullshit and maybe she could get away with that in Alaska. But we’re not all a bunch of hicks. It’s time that smirk was wiped off her face.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:05 pmJay@250
The site you supplied adds more to what spencersmom said.
They are really spilling the dirt on her.
!WoW!
August 30th, 2008 at 11:35 pmShayne Says:
It’s time that smirk was wiped off her face.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Yes, indeed! Hey, Sarah, we know what it is that you think we don’t know.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:42 pm______
pete Says:
“So? We have a man who has been unbalanced by his lust for power, and Believes he’s a war-hero, and a woman who thinks that Jesus will forgive all our mistakes. They are running against a brilliant young orator paired with one of the most respected politicians in the Senate.”
Both of whom also believe Jesus forgives our mistakes! Well,
August 31st, 2008 at 12:20 amat least there’s still the part about McCain being out of touch!
Potfry Says:
Sen. Obama is an impressive intellect
Teleprompted or unteleprompted?
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Which one was he when he was Editor then President of Harvard Law Review? You are a joke
August 31st, 2008 at 12:46 amPotfry Says:
Not at all. I’m saying that anybody on the left who questions Palin’s experience needs to defend Obama’s.
Really, is his experience better than Palin’s? Explain how.
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Yes he worked as a State Senator doing REAL politics while Palin was mayor of some Podunk town. You get more executive experience as the assistant night manager of McDonalds than as a mayor of a town of 5 thousand. He is in the Senate working on national and international political policies while she has been governor of a state without much population and tremendous natural resources. I wouldnt say she has ZERO experience but not much and certainly not as much NOR the quality of experience Obama has gotten. He worked as a community organizer that is HANDS ON GET THINGS DONE EXPERIENCE in the big cities.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:52 amPotfry Says:
Well troll, what I meant by impressive intellect is that Sen. Obama has proven himself to be a thoughtful, intelligent, person. With, or without, a teleprompter.
Mainly with. Without, he’s a deer in headlights.
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Says the MORON with a keyboard. You imbecilic wingnuts are so unaccustom to THINKING and THOUGHTFULLNESS you see it as a weakness. That is because you are so stupid that to you thinking is listening to some rightwing radio screechmonkey tell you what to believe. You are worthless and ignorant
August 31st, 2008 at 12:59 amPotfry Says:
Cmon, Jay. Member? He’s been campaigning for 2/3s of his time in the Senate. He’s demonstrated on at least one occasion that he’s not sure what committee’s he’s actually on.
Please, no more embarrassing links.
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You are such a sad joke. He has missed less votes than McShortbus. You are humiliating yourself with such astonishing ignorance.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:01 amPUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!! PUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!! PUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!!
Who’s your favorite weather-predicting rodent? That’s right! It’s Punxsutawney Phil, the groundhog that totally ROCKS!!
Punxsutawney Borough in Pennsylvania has basically the same population as Wasilla, Alaska, 6,000+ souls. The current mayor there in Phil’s backyard is James Wehrle. I don’t know the first thing about James Wehrle, but will assume he’s a good man and a fine, respected mayor, and I wish him many successful years in office.
QUESTION FOR YA: With no disrespect meant towards Mayor Wehrle, would you want Mr. Wehrle a heartbeat away from the presidency this coming January 20th? Would you want Mr. Wehrle staring down Vladimir Putin at the negotiating table? Would you want Mr. Wehrle’s hand on the nook-u-ler trigger?
PUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!! PUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!! PUNXSUTAWNEY PALIN!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 1:10 amanyone who’s counting chickens right now should probably read this article: The Palin Trap
August 31st, 2008 at 2:56 amWhen a mouse sees a nice big unguarded piece of Cheese just sitting out there for the easy taking, it should think of one thing only…TRAP.
The Republicans are totally incompetent at Governing ( except for the part about Enriching their friends) but they are Very Good at Framing issues and Winning Elections.
Because of Bush’s special gifts, they really have their work cut out for them this year….but to underestimate these Modern day Machiavellis is a Big Mistake.
Two things are working in the Democrats favor.
1.Sen. Obama is very Smart, and has Surrounded himself with very Smart People.
2. The National Enquirer
Thanks for the Link stjack. Gotta Love this internet.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:43 amhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223
August 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pmDid anybody notice how, earlier in the thread, maur(who was claiming to be a Hillary supporter now in the McCain camp because of Palin) couldn’t bring himself/herself to state even one position on which they were in agreement with Hillary Clinton. Couldn’t bring themselves to do that after being called challenged to do so and being openly accused of lying about said Clinton support, but instead just accused her accusers of being ignorant. So many of these people claiming to Democrats voting for McCain are so obviously members of the 19% or so that think Bush is teh bestest preznit evah! They’re so divorced from all Democratic ideals they can’t even properly fake sincerity.
I am certain that, on the average, never in the history of our country have the members of ANY political party been as stupid and intellectually DISHONEST as current day Republicans. You know, Palin might actually be among the best the GOP has to offer right now; Americans that actually care about the country and aren’t total idiots have already left the GOP. They’re left with idiots and those whose belief system differs in no appreciable way from the textbook definition of fascism.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:26 pmMaur…got it wrong! It’s NOT because she’s a woman, it’s because she’s an UNQUALIFIED woman. Hand’s down, flat out! As I read the other day, I wouldn’t let my kids be in the care of someone I had only met once or twice…yet we’re all supposed to be fine with this choice? Why? Because John “got a good feeling?” Where? It’s reckless and careless at the very least.She screwed up her state, now she wants to work on the lower 48? If you’d pass your kids over to someone that quickly, someone ought to call CPS.Shame.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:00 pm