Comments on: GOP scales back tomorrow’s convention plans.

By: livelongandprosper

livelongandprosper — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:14:36 +0000

ST. PAUL, Minn. – John McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, an announcement aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin’s youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter’s.

You mean she is pregnant again? So much for abstinence only!

By: DaTruth

DaTruth — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:46:38 +0000

After 8 years of lies, deceit, stolen elections, loss of civil liberties, failed wars, and economic downturn, the republican party’s convention got rained on! These idiots shouldn’t even be around for all I care.

By: Keith

Keith — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:41:15 +0000

By: dbadass

dbadass — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:07:12 +0000

I am not sure how it works for other civil servants. Of course it makes us beggars and breaks the funds of the union if they actually do it since judges can fine the union massively for each day the schools are closed which scares locals into not breaking the law even if they are willing to have their sorry asses put in jail till shit is resolved. Like most folks, teachers aren’t usually in a position to up and leave their homes, relocate their kids, etc just to go find a new job so they are forced to put up with the bullshit. I also live in a state which thinks it is cool to pretend to run a 21st century state with a 19th century tax code. The affluent here just put their kids in private schools that they drop the name of at social functions

By: Keith

Keith — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:03:55 +0000

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Aug. 29-31, 2008. N=927 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all registered voters).

“Based on what you know about Sarah Palin, do you think she is qualified to serve as president if it becomes necessary, or not?”

8/29-31/08
Qualified: 45%

Not Qualified: 50%

Unsure: 5%

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:57:00 +0000

dbadass Says:
Education. Apparantly it isn’t so vital other than making sure the other workers aren’t inconvenienced by a lack of Monday-Friday child care.

That is outrageous….another question if you don’t mind, does it apply to all unions in your state or just educators?

Without an ability to strike you are just a group of beggars, no?

By: dbadass

dbadass — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:53:50 +0000

Education. Apparantly it isn’t so vital other than making sure the other workers aren’t inconvenienced by a lack of Monday-Friday child care.

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:49:13 +0000

dbadass Says:
I probably should have noted that the conditions which make it illegal for me to strike are in the form of state legislation and not the product of any contract negotiated clause.

What kind of work do you do that would be so vital to the community that would justify legislation like this?

By: Shayne

Shayne — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:42:11 +0000

Or maybe dancing on the bar in a dress. Republicans love it when men do that.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:41:01 +0000

Have you considered dancing on the bar with a lampshade upon your head in some condition of undress?

By: freeman

freeman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:35:38 +0000

Quess I’m just no fun at a party any more .

By: Shayne

Shayne — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:33:02 +0000

dbadass, do you have a Republican governor?

By: Shayne

Shayne — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:31:16 +0000

You’re right Fred I wasn’t implying that other unions have the same ability to stay strong. I’m talking about in Chicago and I’m talking about the construction unions where there is an enormous amount of high rise construction still going on. Those workers go to meetings to make sure the discrepancies you are talking about don’t take place. And it’s not a “right to work” state where they have to allow anybody who shows up to work although I’d feel sorry for anybody who did.

By: freeman

freeman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:24:48 +0000

A freeman !

By: freeman

freeman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:19:05 +0000

Debbs ,your out of jail !

By: freeman

freeman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:17:44 +0000

I have no way of knowing if this is due to thieves along the line at UPS or not but it 3 times in a row , which is very strange and according to UPS national office an anomaly , as they do randomly open packages but the chances of it happening 3 times ?
Makes me wonder if I should buy a lottery ticket.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:17:40 +0000

I probably should have noted that the conditions which make it illegal for me to strike are in the form of state legislation and not the product of any contract negotiated clause.

By: EugeneDebs

EugeneDebs — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:14:54 +0000

Fred Says:
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dbadass Says:
No contract in 4 years now but it is illegal for me to strike. So it goes. Happy Labor Day

I retired from a construction union early because I eventually became experienced enough to be involved in the running of the jobs…..I found that instead of sending out the next man on the list that the so called union reps would send a list of the names of the men who were out of work to the contractor and they selected who they wanted.

This sounds inoculous at first glance but name calling through a union is a disaster for unions. What happens to the older members just for an example……they are never selected to work. The contractors want young, able and ignorant….just do what we tell you and don’t worry about quality or equality. And it has worked for them.

Unions like this are not unions at all, they are hiring halls for companies and operate at the behest of the companies instead of the membership.
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I agree that is outrageous. I have been a UTU member for more than thirty years. If they ever call the guy behind me for a job that should have been mine even if it only puts me out thirty minutes later they pay me an extra day. Allowing that kind of shenanagans should be anathema to ANY union.

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:13:39 +0000

Shayne Says:

Another thing Shayne, even if they are getting equitable pay, if they have a no-strike clause and/or call by name then what you say only applies to those who get called and if you have a no-strike clause you can’t legitimatly bargain for anything further than what the contractors are willing to give, period.

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:09:29 +0000

Shayne Says:

You of course are not defending the devastation that has been leveled at unions in America since Raygun. You surely don’t believe that what you say is predominant in unions in America.

We went from nealy half of American workforces being union to less than 10%. How can you pick one or two unions in America that are doing ok and use that to imply that unions are doing fine in this country if they would just attend meetings?