Conservatives unconcerned about Palin and McCain’s ‘cognitive dissonance’ on climate change.
Conservatives unconcerned about Palin and McCain’s ‘cognitive dissonance’ on climate change.
During a Politico panel discussion this morning on the “Risks and Rewards” of Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, ThinkProgress asked the panelists if there was “cognitive dissonance” between McCain’s belief in global warming and Palin’s denial that it’s “man-made.” Neither Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI) nor Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) thought it was an issue, instead choosing to talk about Palin and McCain’s agreement on drilling. “I think most people generally agree that climate change is happening,” said Miller. “There’s probably more of the the nuance of how much of it — how much is the human race is responsible.” Watch it:
Yesterday, former New York governor George Pataki said that he was “not concerned” about Palin’s skepticism because she is an “energy expert.” He also chose to talk more about drilling instead of climate change when asked about McCain and Palin’s differences.
Transcript:
CORLEY: My name is Matt Corley, I’m also from the Center for American Progress. Sen. McCain has made one of the central parts of his campaign and his political persona that he believes that climate change is real and that it has to be addressed and I’m curious if you think that there is a cognitive dissonance between his position and Gov. Palin’s position on climate change. She’s said she’s not sure that its man-made and I’m curious how you think that would work out between them as a governing coalition and just how the issue would place between them having such a divide between them.
REP. CANDICE MILLER (R-MI): I think in regards to climate change. I think most people generally agree that climate change is happening. There’s probably more of the the nuance of how much of it — how much is the human race is responsible. There’s clearly something happening with the weather patterns, etc. I do think its of note, that Sen. McCain because of energy prices has changed his stance on the Outer Continental Shelf, I think that is to his advantage. In fact, talking about Colorado, that’s what’s happened with the Senate races there, which was about a 12 point spread and its now even up just because of the energy issue. Because Udall has been opposed to drilling.
REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY (R-CA): So I’m hoping that Sarah Palin can recommend to the senator, get him to change his mind if it’s possible about drilling in the ANWR. Quite frankly I think we’re crazy not to be advantaging ourselves of our own domestic energy supplies. But I think on the climate change issue I think McCain’s — the things that he’s said and his record on that has been very good. I don’t think environmentalists should be afraid of a McCain presidency. On the other hand I think you will find that his standard will be reasonable which is really where most people are at.
And if your question is how do you have a VP and a presidential candidate who has differences. I mean you’ve got Biden who’s said he would have been glad to run with McCain and that Barack Obama is inexperienced. So, I mean you’re going to have the differences as you go forward, and the one thing I see that Candice has been talking about. John McCain has been very open about where the world is today and where do you have to go forward.
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“cognitive dissonance” between McCain’s belief in global warming and Palin’s denial that it’s “man-made.”
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September 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm“I think most people generally agree that climate change is happening,” said Miller. “
And the way to slow that process is by drilling for oil ?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:19 pmYesterday, former New York governor George Pataki said that he was “not concerned” about Palin’s skepticism because she is an “energy expert.”
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Waitaminnit — where did Palin pick up all this energy “expertise”? Was she educated by the oil companies she’s in bed with? Or does the fact that she governs a state where oil is being drilled make her an expert — sort of like having Russia just across the Bering Strait makes her a foreign policy expert?
I thought her degree was in journalism. Did I miss something?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pmFunny how Libs make this issue a Black and White!! Its just a hypotheses, no concrete evidence that Global Climate Change is Man Made.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmFirst Maria Bartiromo, now George Pataki. What “energy expert” claims the Exxon Valdez spilled “11,000 gallons of fuel”?
Only an Exxon shill would leave out those 10.8 million gallons of crude oil that fouled 11,000 square miles of ocean. Palin’s fishy, to say the least
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Don’t worry, mccain will flip soon and all will be well.
acme, you are an ignorant fool. There is plenty of scientific data to back it up and everyone on the planet has examined it and came to the same conclusion except you and the other willfully ignorant.
Try listening to some scientists that don’t work for big oil for a change…..oh, and don’t ask me to do your homework for you little guy.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Funny how Libs make this issue a Black and White!! Its just a hypotheses, no concrete evidence that Global Climate Change is Man Made.
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Yeah, no evidence that 6 billion humans burning all the fossil fuels on Earth and cutting all the woods at sight have anything ado with the atmosphere!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pmFred Says:
Evil Spaniard Says:
Its not a Hypotheses? Prove Me wrong!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pmACME_Democrat Says:
riddle me this acne, why would even the bush admin be turning away from fossil fuels if it is not a problem? There are plenty of fossil fuels left to exploit.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Since your facts are so “black and white,” please discredit the science with FACTS and drop the memes and rhetoric.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 2:29 pmAdd this one to the list of the many things over which cognitive dissonance is not an issue for conservatives.
Otherwise their heads would explode, trying to conciliate their literal belief in the Bible with the world we actually live in.
For evidence, read the post by the troll who dismisses a scientific theory as being “just a theory”. These people are ignorant and proud of it, as someone more famous than me put it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:29 pmAsk her one technical ‘oil’ question and you will quickly find what her ‘ex par tese’ is in. It still amazes me how much power BOil has in our gov’t: so much that they picked the r VP. For a second there I thought we’d have a race without BO on the ticket.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pmkiss ol fred’s ass. Do your own homework. Try to prove you are right and we will have you for lunch.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pmSoap Opera Sarah is now an expert on energy???!!!! More likely an expert colluder with the Energy Industry.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:31 pmHypothesis, ACME Democrat doesn’t know what science is. Prove me wrong.
Hypothesis, ACME Democrat can’t spell. Prove me wrong.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:32 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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Funny how Libs make this issue a Black and White!! Its just a hypotheses, no concrete evidence that Global Climate Change is Man Made.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
The above is on of the twits from the same group of retards that wants Creationism taught in schools as “scientific fact” ………
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pmThe DRILL, DRILL, DRILL; BOMB, BOMB, BOMB mentality that passes for experience today is unsurpassed idiocy.
Please, please God, give me a president more intelligent than I am. And McCain and Palin ain’t it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmYesterday, former New York governor George Pataki said that he was “not concerned” about Palin’s skepticism because she is an “energy expert.”
Eating mooseburgers for ‘fuel’ , does not an energy expert make , Mr Pataki …………
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmACME_FASCIST,
We don’t need to prove your hypothesis.
It is quite an intellectually dishonest claim to assert a hypothesis and then make people prove you right and when they can’t because your claim is a dishonest one, AT BEST, you chide them for not proving your claim in the first place.
Sort of like how Bush claimed Iraq had WMD’s and that Saddam needed to PROVE that there were WMD’s ready and waiting and since Saddam failed to prove Bush’s WMD claim, that justified Bush’s illegal aggression.
It’s called a triple negative…
It’s a “Have YOU stopped beating your wife,” argument.
You made it… NOW PROVE IT!
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September 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmMCMetal Says:
When did they discover what dark matter is? And in what book did you find without a doubt how the universe was formed?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pmACME…
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pmHAVE YOU STOPPED BEATING YOUR WIFE?
ACME, gravity is just a “Hypothesis” why don’t you float away?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmACME, for 5 1/2 years john mccain didn’t have any global warming, my friend.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm[…]former New York governor George Pataki said that he was “not concerned” about Palin’s skepticism because she is an “energy expert.”
Well, obviously. If she has experience in foreign policy because Alaska and Russia are in the same general area, it follows she should be an energy expert because she lives a few hundred miles away from oil fields.
Which would also make anyone living in a border state an expert on immigration issues. These people apparently have no idea how idiotic they sound. Duh.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:43 pmsaid Miller. “There’s probably more of the the nuance of how much of it — how much is the human race is responsible.”
I want to see an ad put out in which shots of traffic jams and spewing smokestacks get interspersed with Miller’s quote (awful english and all)! Throw in a shot of some airline jets powering up and then some steam coming out of some nuclear power plants interspersed with shots of melting glaciers!
But, what’s this about ACME being his wife?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pmACME opens mouth and removed all doubt on “cognitive dissonance”.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pmmccain/Palin don’t have cognitive dissonance, they aren’t capable of cognition. mccain just says whatever pops into his head without thinking, and palin assumes that whatever she wants is what god wants, so why think about that?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pmI’m sure the Repugs are no more concerned about a “cognitive dissonance” between McBush and Palin than they would be about one between McBush and a vase of flowers on his desk.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:45 pmHere’s why they don’t care, they have already lost and they know it. This poll shows Obama 68.5/ mccain 31.5 win percentage.
It also shows Obama with 303.9 electoral votes and mccain with 234.1
popular vote is closer but with Obama still ahead.
These are at least closer to what is really going on.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pmBEATING his wife I mean! I mean maybe he tries on her clothes when she’s not around but I don’t think that’s what I heard.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmMary,
The hypothesis is that ACME beats his wife. I’m asking him to prove me right. Or has he stopped beating his wife. As ACME said, “Its not a Hypotheses? Prove Me wrong!”
Well ACME? It’s not a hypothesis? Prove me wrong!
I am just using the same level of intellect… NO?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmACME_Democrat Says
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Funny how Libs make this issue a Black and White!! Its just a hypotheses, no concrete evidence that Global Climate Change is Man Made.
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There is plenty of evidence, including many peer-reviewed studies, accepted by the scientific community — all pointing to the conclusion that global warming exists, and it’s a man-made condition. I could regale you with links, but it’s obvious nothing will change your mind.
There are still people on this planet who believe there is no “concrete evidence” that our planet is round, and there are probably still people working for the tobacco companies who believe that nicotine is not addictive and smoking cigarettes is not harmful to one’s health. But that doesn’t disprove what the rest of us take to be common knowledge. It also doesn’t mean there is any valid debate remaining on these issues. And so it is for global warming.
Oh, one more thing — you will look less ignorant if you use the words “hypothesis” and “hypotheses” correctly. The former is singular; the latter is plural.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmAll the nuclear physicists have are theories and yet they split the atom and developed nuclear weapons. Acme Idiot.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmA blow up doll is not really a “wife”.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmDid anyone notice the North Pole is now an island? Supposedly so for the first time in history. Also, a few years ago enough permafrost melted off of Iceland, and it was discovered Iceland is actually made up of three seperate islands, not one continual land mass.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:50 pmHow much of this is from global warming? Since I’m fairly intelligent, I’d say all of it. If I were Republican, first I’d deny climate change, then I’d say we had nothing to do with it.
The Republican party has it’s collective heads in the sand. This issue not only affects the U.S. but the entire human race.
mary Says:
But, what’s this about ACME being his wife?
Well, it’s kind of complicated. Technically it’s a common law marriage. ACME has a split personality, and since he’s from West Virgina, and the two personalities have lived in his head since he was 14, they’re technically married. Please don’t ask about their honeymoon, it involves a lot of vasoline, and a goat…If more personalites emerge ACME will be moving to southern Utah. If you’re unsure about what that, wait a few minutes, some numbnut keeps posting off topic about a documentary about poligamy and john mccain…
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:50 pm100 years ago scientist hypothesized that global warming would occur due to carbon omissions. Data was collected and the research confirmed the hypothesis and that’s how you end up with a theory. If one of the criteria proved false the theory wouldn’t stand. Acme Idiot. What proof do you have other than the lies paid for by the fossil fuel industry? None. Aren’y you worried you’ll fall off the edge of the flat earth you live on.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 pmShe’s an expert on drilling. I’ll give her that. What beauty queen (or runner-up) isn’t?
As far as oil drilling goes, what percentage of Alaskan oil is heavy oil, and how does that affect the projected production? What levels of sulphur content can be expected at various depths and what effect does that have on equipment and transportation? How would drillig and subsequent production be affected by rivers and lakes that no longer freeze solid or year-round, due to global warming?
These are easy, ‘non-technical’ questions that I would think an Alaskan would know, nevermind being an expert. I’m waiting for an intelligent address to these questions, but I’m not holding my breath.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 pmgolly, I just don’t know what to say about this. I guess you have just proven that you can discredit just about anything if you’re willing to ignore the evidence.
Unless you become immaculately coherent I guess I will move on and ignore you from now on.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:55 pmTheoCons didn’t force Palin on the ticket; Big Oil did. It folds right into their new ‘Drill now’ mantra, beginning with the idiots (R) in the House basement in D.C. But…big oil has made it seem like it was the TheoCons’ idea. Brilliant!
Did I mention McCain is a POW? (Presumptious Old W)
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:56 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Its not a Hypotheses? Prove Me wrong!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
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You’re right. It’s a theory based on reams of solid evidence that a consensus of scientists has deemed valid with a 95% degree of confidence.
Know what else is a hypothesis? Gravity.
Scientists don’t know if it’s a particle or a force or a quantum unit. Since there’s no consensus on the nature of gravity and further research is needed, I strongly suggest you superglue yourself to the floor, just in case gravity stops working.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmJust when you thought the Palin thing couldn’t get any worse, I just read that she is a Pentecostal. Aren’t they the ones who believe in Armageddon? This woman is a total whack job.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmAcme Idiot is talking about dark matter when he should be worrying about his lack of gray matter. Dumba$$.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmACME_Democrat Says:
ACNE, how could one be proven wrong if they never had a chance at being right? Where is your evidence?
No only was ACNE proven wrong, he was proven yet (yet,yet,yet,yet) again to make a complete ass of himself.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:00 pmACME_Democrat Says:
Funny how Libs make this issue a Black and White!! Its just a hypotheses, no concrete evidence that Global Climate Change is Man Made.
Thousands of well respected Scientists would disagree with you. But, hey, don’t let science get in the way of your belief system.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 pmI understand that this is slightly OT, but it has to do with the cognitive dissonance. I have read several times of Palin’s working with or being a member of an Alaska secessionist group. Is there anything to this? If so, what are they doing pushing “country first?”
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 pmThe Rapture Bilbo, she’s Rapture Ready and going to take us all with here, A-F(ckin-Men.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pmThinkProgress is also clearly guilty of offering softball questions as well at times. Instead of a wimpy question on cognitive dissonance, ask the panel this:
Why did McCain select someone who dismisses empirical evidence and logical reasoning whenever it suits her? Why would you want a VP who has a disdain for science?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Just when you thought the Palin thing couldn’t get any worse, I just read that she is a Pentecostal. Aren’t they the ones who believe in Armageddon? This woman is a total whack job.
Does she speak in tongues? If so, let’s all hope the Spirit lifts her to do so at the RNC Lieapalooza tomorrow night. That would certainly wake up the Southern Baptists!
John McCain makes Ron Paul look like a genius…
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pmEvil Spaniard Says:
Yeah, no evidence that 6 billion humans burning all the fossil fuels on Earth and cutting all the woods at sight have anything ado with the atmosphere!
That’s what I can not understand. How can anyone with an IQ above room temperature not understand that we can’t pump tons of pollutants into our atmosphere with no consequences. I like to ask deniers if they would like us to pump the pollutants into their house, and see how long it would take to affect them.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:03 pmBearCountry, here’s a link to the story and the website of this wacky group. They want to vote on Alaska seceding from the US. There’s links to their website there too.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:05 pmSun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century
The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic activity – which determines the number of sunspots — is an influencing factor for climate on earth.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pmOops BearCountry, here it:
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:09 pmBear Country: http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/ 2008/ 09/ 01/ governor-palin-wasnt-always-a-republican/
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:09 pmWow, that’s surprisingly coherent. So if you can accept that as a possible influence then why can’t you accept that we are contributing to it also?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pmACME_Democrat Says:
When did they discover what dark matter is? And in what book did you find without a doubt how the universe was formed?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Background radiation detected by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe provides some extremely conclusive evidence that the Big Bang theory is correct, and that the universe we know came into existence from a singularity that occurred 13.7 billion years ago. We also know based on other evidence that our Sun and its eight planets formed roughly 4.5 billion years ago from a protoplanetary disk, and that the earliest forms of life began on this planet at least 3 billion years ago.
There is abolutely zero scientific evidence to indicate that the Earth and Universe formed over a period of six days some 6,000 years ago. Thus, Creationism has no place in science class.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm“A FACTOR” Acme, what part of that is confusing for you?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pmAcme Idiot runs off screaming, “My Bible, where’s my Bible?”
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:12 pmbearcountry - here’s another link for you:
Secretive Right-Wing Group Vetted Palin
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pmI tell you, the more I learn about Palin, the more I like McSame’s choice as running mate. But she had me at Creation, secession and anti-choice. Then she throws in the little extras like abandoning 5 kids, one a special needs kid, to spend two months making an ass out of herself. Priceless!
Will she start speaking in tongue and rolling on the floor during a VP debate? That will pick up some of the freak vote.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:15 pmYou would think that Palin would be more sensitive to global warming with all that permafrost they have in Alaska! The permafrost has been melting and is creating a positive feedback loop by releasing methane.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmThis just keeps getting better and better. I hadn’t heard about the secession thing. No wonder their slogan is (for the time being) “Country First thing after we take care of the partA”
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm“Have oil drilling rig, will travel.” The new Paladin, Sarah style.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 pmAwwwww, now, come on, you guys!! Sarah’s a BEAUTY QUEEN!! She’s a MOM!! She has a V*GINA!!!
Geesh - ain’t that enough for you fools??? You want BRAINS, too???
/snark
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 pmmary Says:
You would think that Palin would be more sensitive to global warming with all that permafrost they have in Alaska! The permafrost has been melting and is creating a positive feedback loop by releasing methane.
Remember the pictures and film clips of the cruise ships floating by the icebergs and glaciers at Icy Straits in Alaska? You can now float miles up into where those glaciers were. They’re gone now.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pmI’m afraid this character is going to make it very difficult for women to be taken seriously for a long time. Maybe that is the real higher purpose here. She obviously wasn’t vetted well, so maybe they’re thinking it will sour everyone on women seeking higher office for a long time.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pmHere Acme here’s a link to your candidate talking to Miss Wassilla http://www.236.com/ blog/ w/ lee_camp/ mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmI give the Repugs about a week to send out the message that she withdrew for “Family Reasons” and they name either the mitter or McDepends’ BFF, JoeL.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pmRe #3: misshusseinmolly Says:
I agree wholeheartedly with misshusseinmolly!! Pataki’s “energy expert” comment is not the first time I’ve heard this unsubstantiated claim. “Energy expert”??!!?? How?? When?? In what way?? Are you kidding me?!?!?!! Can anyone tell us just what makes Palin an energy expert? I’m waiting, but I’m not holding my breath.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 pm…”she is an “energy expert.”…
Yeah, right. We noticed McCain looking over her energetic ass.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm