Fiorina: ‘I Do Not Think That The Republican Party Subjected Hillary Clinton To Sexism’
Fiorina: ‘I Do Not Think That The Republican Party Subjected Hillary Clinton To Sexism’
Over the last few days, conservatives have been blasting criticisms of Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) as sexist. Today in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, McCain campaign adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer wrote an op-ed titled, “Ignore the Chauvinists. Palin Has Real Experience.” In an interview with NBC yesterday, First Lady Laura Bush said that she wonders “if we aren’t already seeing a little bit” of sexism directed toward Palin. McCain campaign adviser Carly Fiorina said that “American women…will not tolerate sexist treatment” of Palin.
Apparently, this sexism is being perpetrated solely by progressives…at least according to the McCain campaign. Today in a press conference, Fiorina agreed that Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has also been “subject to sexism.” However, according to Fiorina, none of it was done by Republicans:
I would absolutely say that Hillary Clinton has been subject to sexism. By the way, if there are facts that you can show me, I would be delighted to see them, but I do not think that, based on my experiences, what I have seen, I do not think that the Republican Party subjected her to sexism.
I think the Republican Party took her on on her stand on the issues, took her on hard on her stand on the issues. I have said numerous times, I disagree with Hillary, but I also have great admiration for Hillary Clinton.
Listen here to the audio obtained by ThinkProgress:
Let’s refresh Fiorina’s memory with a few examples:
– In November 2007, when a questioner asked “How do we beat the bitch [Clinton]?,” McCain replied, “That’s an excellent question.”
– In 1998, McCain made a lesbian joke that referenced Clinton’s daughter: “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
– In May, McCain adviser Alex Castellanos said, “Her problem is she’s Hillary Clinton. And some women, by the way, are named [bitch], and it’s accurate.”
– In March 2007, CNN host Glenn Beck said that Clinton’s “stereotypical” voice was “nagging,” adding that it “just sticks in your ear like an ice pick.”
Basically, the McCain campaign has been saying that no one can criticize Palin because doing so would be sexist. There’s no doubt that all women candidates, including Palin, are subjected to sexism. But legitimate criticisms — about Palin’s policies, for example — have nothing to do with gender and should be raised.
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Carly Fiorina -- a traitor to her own sex.
....if, in fact, she is a woman...
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmHowever, according to Fiorina, none of it was done by Republicans
OK, this person is too stupid to be even a failed CEO.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmFor anyone who hasn't already heard this, Chuck Todd (NBC Political Director, Russert's replacement) and Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy (GOP strategists/shills) were caught with their mics on and their guards down.
Here's the link, and below is the transcript. This is too funny!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4sOM4tpno&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
Chuck Todd: Mike Murphy, lots of free advice, we'll see if Steve Schmidt and the boys were watching. We'll find out on your blackberry. Tonight voters will get their chance to hear from Sarah Palin and she will get the chance to show voters she's the right woman for the job Up next, one man who's already convinced and he'll us why Gov. Jon Huntsman.
(cut away)
Peggy Noonan: Yeah.
Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And --
PN: It's over.
MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.
CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.
PN: Saw Kay this morning.
CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this --
MM: They're all bummed out.
CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?
PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives --
CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.
MM: I totally agree.
PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.
MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.
CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.
MM: Yeah.
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PEACE
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pmThe righties are pretty new to the practice of correctly identifying social ills. They need time to get the gist, but not on our time. Practice will have to make perfect elsewhere.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:04 pmYou could fill a book with the sexist comments about Clinton made by the Republicans' surrogates on FoxNews and hate radio. Republican politicians don't have to say these things in public because Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh handle it for them.
What baffles me is who Fiorina is talking to. Does she think this crap is going to convince anyone to vote for McCain/Palin?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pmYou are stuborn----------I am determined.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pmYou are a flip-flopper---I am flexible.
You are a sexist---------I am discerning.
You are pig-headed-------I am resolute.
You are idiotic----------I am logic-deprived.
You are senile-----------I am mature.
You are a Democrat-------I am an a$$ hole.
She tanked HP and now she's trying to tank the US.
Why do you HATE America so Carly?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:12 pmWhy, of course - it's true!
We progressives are also racists and bigots. Everybody knows that!!!
/snark
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:15 pmMcCain's hot pants would put this woman a heartbeat away from the presidency of this country. What does he care, if she takes office he'll be dead. Selfish bastard.
If I hear one more repuke say she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia and borders Canada. Obviously she's too far from the continental US to have a clue about us then. I'm not an expert on Wisconsin or Indiana just because my state borders them. What a joke.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:22 pmOh God...
Just imagine how much worse it could be if Palin was a female POW.
Hello, It's McPain-Callin'.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:23 pmOn the contrary satirev, I think McCain let the heat of his d*ck melt his brain.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:23 pmWhy is it that she and others may point to her "life experience, raising five children" without any investigation into that. She can have credit for relating to everyday Americans having those dining table conversations, but we can't ask how much she is at the dining room table.
Sexism is horrible. But there has to be a permissible line of questioning. She does, after all want to be in the white house.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 pmUp is down, black is white. They want it both ways all of the time.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:26 pmsatirev Says: "(Palin/Silver)...managed to garner 24 Million dollars for city projects for Wasilla. Wasilla is podunkville..."
More disturbing is the fact that she left Wasilla $20millionin debt---a $42 million shift. Where the hell did all that money go? Ted S is in trouble over a few thousand. How can McBlind and the Repukes cover up more money than Cheney and Halliburton manage to steal in a week?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pmFiorina: ‘I Do Not Think '
Fixed
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:28 pmDidn't Sarah herself lament Hillary's whine?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:28 pmDamn, my calculator battery just did a McFail. Oh well, what's two million among Repukes?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:29 pmSatirev, I'm a PROUD VagAmerican!!!
You betcha! I vote with my veejayjay!!
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September 3rd, 2008 at 6:29 pm.
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Oh, man. That was painful. I think I hurt myself. :o/
Aside from being incredibly and self-defeatingly whiny this looks like a new twist on the KKKarl Rove tactic of attacking your opponent's strength -- complain when you are treated as you have treated your opponents. What is so comical is that the only Palin scrutiny that could drift into sexist waters -- teen pregnancy -- came to the media's attention from the right, not the left. Questioning McCain's judgment in picking an inexperienced veep nominee after hammering on experience all summer is a fair topic which his henchmen badly misplayed by babbling about the Alaska National Guard and proximity to Alaska. Questioning Palin's suitability as McCain's running mate given her fondness for earmarks, her unwillingness to admit to said fondness and her inability to govern a small town without raising taxes is fair game. Perhaps Carly and company will realize at some point that they are talking to themselves on this mythical sexism because there is no other party to that conversation.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:30 pmThe Power of POWy Maverickiciousness.
sorry.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:30 pmI think he's got bigger problems than ED, or smaller as the case may be. Anyhoo, the ED drugs have moved on from pasty old seniors to sell that stuff. They've moved on to 40 something hotties. Maybe he can sell that "I've fallen and I can't get up." thingy.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:31 pmMemo to Republicans: This is year 2008 - every idiotic statement you are saying about Palin and McCain's picking her is being "recorded" - look it up - it means that all these silly statements are going to come back and haunt you someday so either STFU or admit that this was a lousy decision.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:34 pmThey were interviewing people getting ready to go into the convention and the men all liked Sarah but NOT ONE of the women they asked did.
Sexism is putting just any woman in as his VP instead of putting the most qualified woman in. If the job is that insignificant we should just forget about elections and pick a name out of a hat every 4 years.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pmMcCain is so stupid that he thinks he can punish the press and not speak to them and none of us will ever know about it. He thinks we have to wait until the morning when the new newspaper comes out and then because he's punishing them they won't have anything to tell us. What an idiot.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmAnd McCain's campaign aides need to sit him down in front of a computer and show him what the real world is like now.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:39 pmsatirev Says: "John McCain does not support equal pay for equal jobs for women. John McCain has always been the biggest whoremonger in congress who thinks women are at their best when they’re on their backs."
Satirev, be careful now! We don't want to alienate poor old Larry Craig. McPimp may need his vote.
My apologies for my satire. Your comment was an excellent synopsis of McCain's view of women. The myth of women being inferior to men is just that, a myth. Except maybe in weight lifting. But that argument may not hold water as women have been carrying men for countless years. Please continue!
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmJouralists get arrested for taking pictures of police arresting protesters?
Political campaigns play payback if a reporter asks too tough a question to a campaign leader?
Get in line media, or else...
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:41 pmPailin was selected for exactly one reason, mobilize the extreme right wing religious base. Her positions on abortion, contraception and teaching creationism within the public schools will be exactly what McCain seeks to develop a ground game. Remember, McCain never put together a ground game and he will now have it through the fundies.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:01 pmI object to Ms. Palin on very simple grounds. She's bat-scat crazy. And, apparently, a growing number of Reichwhiners are reaching similar conclusions. It's truly difficult to imagine a worse choice for VP. Or a less electable one.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:02 pmTruly, those idiots just don't get it.
If they want a woman as veep, fine. Hell, we Dems did it 25 years ago.
But, for God's sake, PICK ONE WHO IS QUALIFIED.
I can think of at least a half dozen highly qualified Republican women (Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Elizabeth Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson) --- but none of them are beauty queens.
And probably none of them are ideologically rigid religious freaknuts, either.
Crikey - if McLoser had picked a woman like Susan Collins of Maine - then, I'd be scared.
Now, with the Palinator? I'm just laughing my v*gina off.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:02 pmThere is something seriously wrong for women who profess to be reichwingnut expremists and are bound to walk in lock step behind the fascists of the GOP. They vote against their own interests and must have been dropped on their heads when they were young. That is the only explanation I can come up with.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:03 pmFrankly, I don't know how Ms. Fiorina got to be a spokesperson or surrogate in the political arena, anyway. She has proven time and again that she is not very good at and nobody seems to listen to her. She should go back to what...ooops...she wasn't very good at that, either.
The whole Palin debacle is confusing enough in its own right, without adding the lightweight Fiorina quips to it. Somebody get her outta here!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:06 pmZooey Says:
Carly Fiorina — a traitor to her own sex.
….if, in fact, she is a woman…
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Funny thing is a lot of Hillary supporters think the same of you and your fellow Obamaheads that were so sexist in your attacks on Hillary...
So now Carly is a traitor because she denies sexism was used against Hillary? ROTFL! That's a real hoot coming from YOU, the person who was spreading the RIDICULOUS RUMOR that Hillary belonged to "The Family" religious cult!!! ROTFL!!!
TRAITOR! HYPOCRITE!!! FOOL!!!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pmTrue JMOHR. However, I still think most of the psychochristians were going to vote GOP by default. While it's possible that she will retain a few who may have voted Barr, or stayed home, I don't see her attracting anyone from outside the GOP base. And she may drive off a few who agreed with McSpin's estimation of the Radical Right as "agents of intolerance".
I think her selection is good news for the Obama campaign and anyone invested in seeing an end to the GOP's largess.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pmWell it took a little longer then I would have expected but I knew someone would find this bait irresistable
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pmI was going to start a clock when I first saw the thread, db. It's like Daryll and "gay" threads or the dear departed BARTTROLL with "Christian bashing atheist" threads.
But then I figured, who the Hell cares when another psychopath shows up?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pmQuestioning her role in her family is not sexist either. She is the mother to a special needs baby and a out-of-control teenager. Her husband is obviously not taking on the role of Mr. Mom, so that leaves the mothering duty up to Sarah Palin. She is allowing her political ambitions to take first place over her children who need her. There's nothing sexist about that. If she was a man who was abandoning his family, I would say the same thing.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:49 pmWhile I was driving home tonight I heard Randy Rhodes read a letter from a woman who lives in Sarah's home town. She has known her since 1992. The letter was quite enlightening. It wasn't horribly critical of Sarah, but it wasn't complimentary either. It was just a bunch of facts like her taking over as mayor with the city having zero debt and when she left six years later the 6,600 citizens were saddled with 22 million in debt. Now that's impressive.
I just found the letter. Read it, it's very enlightening:
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 pmWho is this Alex Castellanos? He looks very much like a fellow who used to sell vacuum cleaners in our 1950s neighborhood.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:03 pmI think it's particularly relevant, Bilbo, since her public record confirms that she would seek to impose her parenting methods on the whole country. Public schools would be reduced to "God did it" and "keep your knees together or you'll go to Hell". And if that idea doesn't raise one's hackles, one needs some counseling.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:04 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Head spinning -- check
Spittle flying -- check
Eyeballs rolling -- check
Voices screaming in head -- check
Suicide hotline on speed dial -- check
Just another day in the neighborhood for RHF. :-D
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:52 pmNo, they only accused her of murdering Vince Foster and being a witchcraft practicing lesbian.
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm.
I can summerize this in one title...
Senator McCunt!
And yet, the Reich supports him and claims he or they haven't been sexist...?
September 4th, 2008 at 1:28 amFiorina: ‘I Do Not Think That The Republican Party Subjected Hillary Clinton To Sexism
To be fair I also thought I heard her say that the sky wasnt blue, that water wasnt wet and that God didnt make the little green apples
September 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am