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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-usw/comment-page-3/#comment-5221452</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim43 Says: 
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You couldnt explain RAIN to me  you ignorant condescending piece of garbage. If we blame all the bad things about the Soviet Union on communism I guess we need to blame all the bad things about Nazi Germany on capitalism. 
The Incas were basically a monarchial communism because communims is an ECONOMY YOU MORON not a government. MAN you are so ignorant its pathetic. YOu dont know a single things some righwting screechmonkey didnt tell you. In a part of the world where THOUSANDS are starving right now NO ONE in the Inca empire went hungry or without clothing or shelter and according to the Spaniards theft was unknown among them. I dont CARE about communism OR socialism. Not a single teacher I have EVER HAD was a communits NOR a socialist. That is just what you have been TOLD to believe by WHOREOWITZ and the other screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you. You are ignorant. I am in a union and you obviously dont know one single thing about them except the LIES you have been told. I have to appologize to morons everywhere for lumping them in with someone as incredibly stupid as you. You would have to gain a couple of dozen IQ points to qualify for the marching moron society</description>
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<p>You couldnt explain RAIN to me  you ignorant condescending piece of garbage. If we blame all the bad things about the Soviet Union on communism I guess we need to blame all the bad things about Nazi Germany on capitalism.<br />
The Incas were basically a monarchial communism because communims is an ECONOMY YOU MORON not a government. MAN you are so ignorant its pathetic. YOu dont know a single things some righwting screechmonkey didnt tell you. In a part of the world where THOUSANDS are starving right now NO ONE in the Inca empire went hungry or without clothing or shelter and according to the Spaniards theft was unknown among them. I dont CARE about communism OR socialism. Not a single teacher I have EVER HAD was a communits NOR a socialist. That is just what you have been TOLD to believe by WHOREOWITZ and the other screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you. You are ignorant. I am in a union and you obviously dont know one single thing about them except the LIES you have been told. I have to appologize to morons everywhere for lumping them in with someone as incredibly stupid as you. You would have to gain a couple of dozen IQ points to qualify for the marching moron society<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5221452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-usw/comment-page-3/#comment-5211270</link>
		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure I have worked while belonging to a union and I still do and thank god since the tax system in my state is so archaic that civil servants like myself would long since have thrown in the towel and went to the private sector. I hold three university degrees from three different institutions and with one exception I never had a prof who would fit the imagined model you have created and then suggested is the norm. Incidently I am in ed and I too like my mentor hold a second job. Mine is in a warehouse with dropouts, convicts and the working poor whose lack of education ensures that they will stay there. So much for your fantasy of our ivory towers and lack of understanding of your &quot;real world&quot;

by the way Tim43 ever talk to all those unhappy socialists in the Scandanavian nations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure I have worked while belonging to a union and I still do and thank god since the tax system in my state is so archaic that civil servants like myself would long since have thrown in the towel and went to the private sector. I hold three university degrees from three different institutions and with one exception I never had a prof who would fit the imagined model you have created and then suggested is the norm. Incidently I am in ed and I too like my mentor hold a second job. Mine is in a warehouse with dropouts, convicts and the working poor whose lack of education ensures that they will stay there. So much for your fantasy of our ivory towers and lack of understanding of your &#8220;real world&#8221;</p>
<p>by the way Tim43 ever talk to all those unhappy socialists in the Scandanavian nations?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5211270', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-usw/comment-page-3/#comment-5211108</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim43 Says: 

Ever work in a union dbadass? If so, did you ever wonder why the worst employees got to keep their jobs? Same experience pervades our universities. 
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YOU are a liar and a fool. You have done nothing but strung together all the old hivemind talking points you have been programmed with and their ignorance is a stench. I have worked for a union for more than thirty years and the employees that screw up get FIRED. Just because you ignorantly say something it doesnt magically become true and just because college professors with more intelligence in their little fingers than you will ever have disagree with you doesnt mean they are complacent or even wrong. YOU are a moron and never know what you are talking about.</description>
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<p>Ever work in a union dbadass? If so, did you ever wonder why the worst employees got to keep their jobs? Same experience pervades our universities.<br />
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<p>YOU are a liar and a fool. You have done nothing but strung together all the old hivemind talking points you have been programmed with and their ignorance is a stench. I have worked for a union for more than thirty years and the employees that screw up get FIRED. Just because you ignorantly say something it doesnt magically become true and just because college professors with more intelligence in their little fingers than you will ever have disagree with you doesnt mean they are complacent or even wrong. YOU are a moron and never know what you are talking about.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5211108', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops sorry that should have been third.</description>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall claiming to be a deep thinker. My mentor has a phd from Dartmouth. He chairs his department at his university. He also is a 4th generation house painter who continues the tradition. I think you may be believing in stereotypes which may not exist</description>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;dbadass Says: 
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Tim43:
You still haven’t offered any explaination for why liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.

Hey putin you got any ideas about this?&lt;/em&gt;

Yes I did.  You failed to read deeply into my points. I thought that you were a deep thinker??? 

The liberal thought that pervades universities comes from complacency.  Let me rephrase it for you.  Many &lt;strong&gt;tenured professors&lt;/strong&gt; develop a utopian view of the world that is completely detached from the real world that every day Americans live and experience.  Many develop a utopian view of the world because they work in an institution with other&lt;strong&gt;tenured &lt;/strong&gt;individuals who have no need to compete.  Remember, they are tenured, there is no incentive to compete but much room for complacency.

Ever work in a union dbadass?  If so, did you ever wonder why the worst employees got to keep their jobs?  Same experience pervades our universities.  

Becaues of this utopian experience, many temured professors come to believe in theories like Socialism and Marxism, which &lt;em&gt;in theory &lt;/em&gt;sound great to the working masses.  Socialists use buzzwords like &quot;equality and fairness&quot; to push socialism.  There is no competition in Socialism and Marxism.  No incentive to excel or innovate because no matter what you do, you will be taken care of by big government.  Sounds like our universities today.

While these theories sound great to the masses, they always lead to big bureaucratic out-of-control government.  In the worse cases socialism leads to Marxism.  Marxism has NEVER EVER worked in practice.  &lt;strong&gt;Marxism always leads a totalitarian tyranny. &lt;/strong&gt;Just ask a Russian, if you know one.  North Koreans can also fill you in on the details.  Soon Venezualians will be able to inform us of the brutality of communism.  Your Liberal professors however &lt;strong&gt;will brush over&lt;/strong&gt; the damages of Socialism or Marxism.

By the way...  Obama had a communist mentor.  His name was Frank Marshal Davis.  http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/080817

Need me to explain any more for you dbadass???  How about you EugeneDebs???</description>
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<p>Tim43:<br />
You still haven’t offered any explaination for why liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.</p>
<p>Hey putin you got any ideas about this?</em></p>
<p>Yes I did.  You failed to read deeply into my points. I thought that you were a deep thinker??? </p>
<p>The liberal thought that pervades universities comes from complacency.  Let me rephrase it for you.  Many <strong>tenured professors</strong> develop a utopian view of the world that is completely detached from the real world that every day Americans live and experience.  Many develop a utopian view of the world because they work in an institution with other<strong>tenured </strong>individuals who have no need to compete.  Remember, they are tenured, there is no incentive to compete but much room for complacency.</p>
<p>Ever work in a union dbadass?  If so, did you ever wonder why the worst employees got to keep their jobs?  Same experience pervades our universities.  </p>
<p>Becaues of this utopian experience, many temured professors come to believe in theories like Socialism and Marxism, which <em>in theory </em>sound great to the working masses.  Socialists use buzzwords like &#8220;equality and fairness&#8221; to push socialism.  There is no competition in Socialism and Marxism.  No incentive to excel or innovate because no matter what you do, you will be taken care of by big government.  Sounds like our universities today.</p>
<p>While these theories sound great to the masses, they always lead to big bureaucratic out-of-control government.  In the worse cases socialism leads to Marxism.  Marxism has NEVER EVER worked in practice.  <strong>Marxism always leads a totalitarian tyranny. </strong>Just ask a Russian, if you know one.  North Koreans can also fill you in on the details.  Soon Venezualians will be able to inform us of the brutality of communism.  Your Liberal professors however <strong>will brush over</strong> the damages of Socialism or Marxism.</p>
<p>By the way&#8230;  Obama had a communist mentor.  His name was Frank Marshal Davis.  <a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/080817" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/080817</a></p>
<p>Need me to explain any more for you dbadass???  How about you EugeneDebs???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5210292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbadass Says: 

Tim43:
You still haven’t offered any explaination for why liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.
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Of course not his hivemind masters havent told him what to believe about that yet. Maybe Rush will cover it tomorrow. You will NEVER get an original thought from a Limborg moron like Timeh</description>
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<p>Tim43:<br />
You still haven’t offered any explaination for why liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.<br />
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<p>Of course not his hivemind masters havent told him what to believe about that yet. Maybe Rush will cover it tomorrow. You will NEVER get an original thought from a Limborg moron like Timeh<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209864', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim43:
You still haven&#039;t offered any explaination for why  liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.

Hey putin you got any ideas about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim43:<br />
You still haven&#8217;t offered any explaination for why  liberal thought dominates ed. You continue to just want to say that it is so but not offer any reason why this might be. What gives.</p>
<p>Hey putin you got any ideas about this?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209804', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

Complaining about unions preventing individuals from working? Oh well…
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Another mind bogglinging ignorant statement. A core principle for any union is to have more workers working. Any individual the company hires that is willing to pay their fair share to keep the job a good union job is welcome. What you want is to DESTROY unions by allowing the companies to hire a bunch of free lunch conservatives that take all the benefits without contributing till the union becomes obsolete. The strength of a union isnt the individual. It is what we can accomplish together that we couldnt accompish individually. THAT  is what gripes free lunch conservatives like you who actually worship money. ANYTHING you can do to help the bussiness and the sacred right of owners to make their sacred money and more and more of it is all you care about property is more important than people to you. The right of a bussiness owner to maximize his profits at the expense of his workers is a great idea to you and you DESPISE workers getting together to maximize THEIR power.</description>
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<p>Complaining about unions preventing individuals from working? Oh well…<br />
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<p>Another mind bogglinging ignorant statement. A core principle for any union is to have more workers working. Any individual the company hires that is willing to pay their fair share to keep the job a good union job is welcome. What you want is to DESTROY unions by allowing the companies to hire a bunch of free lunch conservatives that take all the benefits without contributing till the union becomes obsolete. The strength of a union isnt the individual. It is what we can accomplish together that we couldnt accompish individually. THAT  is what gripes free lunch conservatives like you who actually worship money. ANYTHING you can do to help the bussiness and the sacred right of owners to make their sacred money and more and more of it is all you care about property is more important than people to you. The right of a bussiness owner to maximize his profits at the expense of his workers is a great idea to you and you DESPISE workers getting together to maximize THEIR power.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim43 Says: 


The majority of folks start college as impressionable youth hungry to learn. Realizing, as I did, that to succeed in most college courses, one needs to parrot the liberal musings of the majority of professors. Takes a few years shake the indoctrination, but after one does, they can experience true freedom and understanding. 
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Hatred? You are sad and pathetic, more an object of pity than anything else. You parrot the rightwing hivemind mantra Liberal boogeymen here and over there and I am sure under your bed. Funny that many of my teachers were rightwing to the CORE in a democratic area. The college philosophy professor would have made Pat Bucchanon blush. Here is a clue you desperately need. Despite your hivemind conditioning things dont become true because you idiots parrot them endlessly.
Heh, can’t wait to see the liberal hatred spewed out after that comment :-)</description>
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<p>The majority of folks start college as impressionable youth hungry to learn. Realizing, as I did, that to succeed in most college courses, one needs to parrot the liberal musings of the majority of professors. Takes a few years shake the indoctrination, but after one does, they can experience true freedom and understanding.<br />
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<p>Hatred? You are sad and pathetic, more an object of pity than anything else. You parrot the rightwing hivemind mantra Liberal boogeymen here and over there and I am sure under your bed. Funny that many of my teachers were rightwing to the CORE in a democratic area. The college philosophy professor would have made Pat Bucchanon blush. Here is a clue you desperately need. Despite your hivemind conditioning things dont become true because you idiots parrot them endlessly.<br />
Heh, can’t wait to see the liberal hatred spewed out after that comment :-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209582', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

No, I think that unions shouldn’t have the right to dictate who works and who shouldn’t. It’s that simple.
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That is patently ignorant. UNIONS DONT HIRE. Companies hire. THEY decide who works if you want the BENFITS of having that union job you pay the dues its THAT simple just like if you want the benifits of having electricity you PAY FOR IT.</description>
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<p>No, I think that unions shouldn’t have the right to dictate who works and who shouldn’t. It’s that simple.<br />
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<p>That is patently ignorant. UNIONS DONT HIRE. Companies hire. THEY decide who works if you want the BENFITS of having that union job you pay the dues its THAT simple just like if you want the benifits of having electricity you PAY FOR IT.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209570', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says:

“And if workers “of the same trade” want to assemble to have a fair deal with employers, it’s their right.”

Absolutely, but if an individual doesn’t want to join the union in a particular trade, for whatever reason, the union shouldn’t have the right to tell individuals “you can’t work here”.
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My GOD you are stupid. By that logic if I dont want to PAY for my electricity then the electric company should have no right to say they wont give it to me. If you WANT the benifits of a union job you need to PAY union dues. Wanting a free lunch on those who WILL pay the cost is the same as YOU wanting a free luch by not paying your electricity bill</description>
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<p>“And if workers “of the same trade” want to assemble to have a fair deal with employers, it’s their right.”</p>
<p>Absolutely, but if an individual doesn’t want to join the union in a particular trade, for whatever reason, the union shouldn’t have the right to tell individuals “you can’t work here”.<br />
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<p>My GOD you are stupid. By that logic if I dont want to PAY for my electricity then the electric company should have no right to say they wont give it to me. If you WANT the benifits of a union job you need to PAY union dues. Wanting a free lunch on those who WILL pay the cost is the same as YOU wanting a free luch by not paying your electricity bill<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says:
 
I just subscribe to individual rigthts and unions, for all of their good, have become a stifle on individual liberty.
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You are a liar and a fool with no clue what you are talking about just spewing talking points like a good hiveminder should. Your ignornace is an embarassment to homo sapiens everywhere</description>
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<p>I just subscribe to individual rigthts and unions, for all of their good, have become a stifle on individual liberty.<br />
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<p>You are a liar and a fool with no clue what you are talking about just spewing talking points like a good hiveminder should. Your ignornace is an embarassment to homo sapiens everywhere<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 
No, I think that unions shouldn’t have the right to dictate who works and who shouldn’t. It’s that simple.
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Another unbelievably STUPID statement. Unions dont hire people, companies hire. Once they are hired if they WANT that union job and those union benifits, most likely they want them BECAUSE they are good jobs which the union MADE THEM, they need to join and support the union. If all they want is a free lunch on everyone who IS supporting the union that MADE it a good job then they can go to hell.</description>
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No, I think that unions shouldn’t have the right to dictate who works and who shouldn’t. It’s that simple.<br />
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<p>Another unbelievably STUPID statement. Unions dont hire people, companies hire. Once they are hired if they WANT that union job and those union benifits, most likely they want them BECAUSE they are good jobs which the union MADE THEM, they need to join and support the union. If all they want is a free lunch on everyone who IS supporting the union that MADE it a good job then they can go to hell.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209530', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-usw/comment-page-3/#comment-5209520</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy

So you think it’s OK for the unions to tell someone that if you don’t support the union thru membership dues and keeping you mouth shut about politics then you can’t work in a particular trade?
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The ABJECT STUPIDITY of this statement is awe inspiring. Yeah if you arent willing to pay union dues and just want a free lunch getting all the BENIFITS of being in a union without paying your fair share you bet its ok to tell them to take a hike. They also dont have to keep their mouth shut about politics they just cant pretend to REPRESENT THE UNION WHEN THEY HAVENT EARNED THAT RIGHT THROUGH AN ELECTION. You are SO ignorant. This is simple enough for any child to understand it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy</p>
<p>So you think it’s OK for the unions to tell someone that if you don’t support the union thru membership dues and keeping you mouth shut about politics then you can’t work in a particular trade?<br />
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<p>The ABJECT STUPIDITY of this statement is awe inspiring. Yeah if you arent willing to pay union dues and just want a free lunch getting all the BENIFITS of being in a union without paying your fair share you bet its ok to tell them to take a hike. They also dont have to keep their mouth shut about politics they just cant pretend to REPRESENT THE UNION WHEN THEY HAVENT EARNED THAT RIGHT THROUGH AN ELECTION. You are SO ignorant. This is simple enough for any child to understand it<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209520', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

“Join the fricking union and vote the union bosses out if you don’t like them. IT’S CALLED DEMOCRACY YOU THICK SKULLED IDIOT!”

A democracy is NOT suppose to trample on the rights of those in the minority. I guess that is why you don’t seem to realize that this country is a Republic where the rights of the minority are protected. Sound like you are the idiot.
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You clearly PROVE you are an idiot. Any member of any union can support whatever candidate they want MORON. What they CANT do is pretend they are speaking FOR the union while undercutting them. If they WANT to represent the union they need to win an election to do so. Just how ignorant are you anyway?</description>
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<p>“Join the fricking union and vote the union bosses out if you don’t like them. IT’S CALLED DEMOCRACY YOU THICK SKULLED IDIOT!”</p>
<p>A democracy is NOT suppose to trample on the rights of those in the minority. I guess that is why you don’t seem to realize that this country is a Republic where the rights of the minority are protected. Sound like you are the idiot.<br />
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<p>You clearly PROVE you are an idiot. Any member of any union can support whatever candidate they want MORON. What they CANT do is pretend they are speaking FOR the union while undercutting them. If they WANT to represent the union they need to win an election to do so. Just how ignorant are you anyway?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;dbadass Says: 
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Hi Tim43:
Why have the colleges become what you think they are? How about some deeper thinking. &lt;/em&gt;

Well that is one way to look at it dbadass.  However, another side of the argument leads me to a comclusion that liberal professors assume an indoctrinated utopian view of the world after being institutionalized and immersed in theory detached from reality.  &lt;strong&gt;&quot;MANY&quot;, not all&lt;/strong&gt;, professors have never held jobs outside of the college and never experience real work in the real world.  To make matters worse, professors are given tenure, which essentially gives them immunity from scrutiny and firing.  Tenure is not a real world luxury that the average American enjoys.  &lt;strong&gt;In short, while professors heads may be stuck in books all day, that does not equate to intelligence nor real world experience.  Book knowledge and theory can be parroted by anyone with the time to read.&lt;/strong&gt;  Don&#039;t get me wrong, there are many great professors.  However, the &lt;strong&gt;greatest &lt;/strong&gt;professors will NEVER give you a hint of whether they are liberal or conservative.  Sadly, in my experience, that was/is not the norm

&lt;em&gt;Is the invisible hand at work again and the consumer demands liberal colleges and media? Think man think? What causes all these weird things you believe to be? There must be some reasons right? Just tell us what these causal factors are…&lt;/em&gt;

The invisible hand is not invisible at all.  In our society, a degree will earn you more money on average than no degree.  Most folks understand this and work to get degrees, though some go to party on the parents tab.  The great thing about this country is that you can succeed without a degree, BUT, a degree will never hurt.

The majority of folks start college as impressionable youth hungry to learn.  Realizing, as I did, that to succeed in most college courses, one needs to parrot the liberal musings of the majority of professors.  Takes a few years shake the indoctrination, but after one does, they can experience true freedom and understanding. 

Heh, can&#039;t wait to see the liberal hatred spewed out after that comment :-)</description>
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<p>Hi Tim43:<br />
Why have the colleges become what you think they are? How about some deeper thinking. </em></p>
<p>Well that is one way to look at it dbadass.  However, another side of the argument leads me to a comclusion that liberal professors assume an indoctrinated utopian view of the world after being institutionalized and immersed in theory detached from reality.  <strong>&#8220;MANY&#8221;, not all</strong>, professors have never held jobs outside of the college and never experience real work in the real world.  To make matters worse, professors are given tenure, which essentially gives them immunity from scrutiny and firing.  Tenure is not a real world luxury that the average American enjoys.  <strong>In short, while professors heads may be stuck in books all day, that does not equate to intelligence nor real world experience.  Book knowledge and theory can be parroted by anyone with the time to read.</strong>  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, there are many great professors.  However, the <strong>greatest </strong>professors will NEVER give you a hint of whether they are liberal or conservative.  Sadly, in my experience, that was/is not the norm</p>
<p><em>Is the invisible hand at work again and the consumer demands liberal colleges and media? Think man think? What causes all these weird things you believe to be? There must be some reasons right? Just tell us what these causal factors are…</em></p>
<p>The invisible hand is not invisible at all.  In our society, a degree will earn you more money on average than no degree.  Most folks understand this and work to get degrees, though some go to party on the parents tab.  The great thing about this country is that you can succeed without a degree, BUT, a degree will never hurt.</p>
<p>The majority of folks start college as impressionable youth hungry to learn.  Realizing, as I did, that to succeed in most college courses, one needs to parrot the liberal musings of the majority of professors.  Takes a few years shake the indoctrination, but after one does, they can experience true freedom and understanding. </p>
<p>Heh, can&#8217;t wait to see the liberal hatred spewed out after that comment :-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209502', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

Your post is BONE IGNORANT.

“Neither Todd nor Sarah Palin have been elected to speak for the USW union, especially when they are attempting to use the union for political gain”

The Obama campaign is using unions for political gain and the unions are using union funds to support a him and defeat McCain.
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All of which is in the Unions best interest. McCain is my Senator I know his policy stances and he is very anti labor.


“…you cannot understand the idea that unions are democracies.”

“If they continue this activity, his membership should be revoked, as he is working against the interests of the majority of union members.”

So there is no representation for those who don’t believe in the offical positions of the union? Sounds like a government attempting to stiffle free speech by putting the clamps down on those who don’t agree with the majority. Sound like right to work laws need to be passed in those states who basically are saying that the unions as the ones who determine who can work in a particular trade. That is the most unAmerican I have ever heard of.
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My goodness you say the stupidest things. You really have no concept how democracies work do you? I am a US citizen but I cant represent the US to foriegn countries as it is illegal to do so. If he WANTS to represent the Union all he has to do is win an election. If he THINKS his political stance can garner majority support he can put it up for vote. In fact the Steelworkers are a union where the rank and file VOTE for who is president so he can run for that position he can also say whatever he WANTS as a citizen what he CANNOT do and what isnt reasonable FOR him to do is pretend he represents a union where he HAS NOT earned the right to represent it democratically. This is really a very simple proposition. It shouldnt be that hard for you to understand. My sister Union the BLE endorsed Raygun the first time because their membership wanted it. The second time he ran the membership regained their sanity.</description>
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<p>Your post is BONE IGNORANT.</p>
<p>“Neither Todd nor Sarah Palin have been elected to speak for the USW union, especially when they are attempting to use the union for political gain”</p>
<p>The Obama campaign is using unions for political gain and the unions are using union funds to support a him and defeat McCain.<br />
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<p>All of which is in the Unions best interest. McCain is my Senator I know his policy stances and he is very anti labor.</p>
<p>“…you cannot understand the idea that unions are democracies.”</p>
<p>“If they continue this activity, his membership should be revoked, as he is working against the interests of the majority of union members.”</p>
<p>So there is no representation for those who don’t believe in the offical positions of the union? Sounds like a government attempting to stiffle free speech by putting the clamps down on those who don’t agree with the majority. Sound like right to work laws need to be passed in those states who basically are saying that the unions as the ones who determine who can work in a particular trade. That is the most unAmerican I have ever heard of.<br />
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<p>My goodness you say the stupidest things. You really have no concept how democracies work do you? I am a US citizen but I cant represent the US to foriegn countries as it is illegal to do so. If he WANTS to represent the Union all he has to do is win an election. If he THINKS his political stance can garner majority support he can put it up for vote. In fact the Steelworkers are a union where the rank and file VOTE for who is president so he can run for that position he can also say whatever he WANTS as a citizen what he CANNOT do and what isnt reasonable FOR him to do is pretend he represents a union where he HAS NOT earned the right to represent it democratically. This is really a very simple proposition. It shouldnt be that hard for you to understand. My sister Union the BLE endorsed Raygun the first time because their membership wanted it. The second time he ran the membership regained their sanity.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209496', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

Can anyone tell me why every state doesn’t have right to work laws? Seems like those state who don’t have these laws are in engaging in pretty basic discrimination.
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No they are NOT if you dont WANT a union job dont get one. The closed shop is a necessary way to run a union so the greedy no integrity people wont take a free lunch getting all the BENFITS of being a union member without paying dues and doing thier part. I by the way am a union member in a closed shop IN a right-to-work-for-peanuts State. Look at the right to work states and you will see their median income is substantially less than states that didnt sell their people out so shamelessly</description>
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<p>Can anyone tell me why every state doesn’t have right to work laws? Seems like those state who don’t have these laws are in engaging in pretty basic discrimination.<br />
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<p>No they are NOT if you dont WANT a union job dont get one. The closed shop is a necessary way to run a union so the greedy no integrity people wont take a free lunch getting all the BENFITS of being a union member without paying dues and doing thier part. I by the way am a union member in a closed shop IN a right-to-work-for-peanuts State. Look at the right to work states and you will see their median income is substantially less than states that didnt sell their people out so shamelessly<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: livelongandprosper</title>
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		<dc:creator>livelongandprosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is exactly the type of post that gets on the John Gibson show and makes our blog look bad. &lt;/em&gt;

Maybe Gibson could choose some choice posts from right wing blogs.  Oh wait, that would be left wing media that would do that. LOL</description>
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<p>Maybe Gibson could choose some choice posts from right wing blogs.  Oh wait, that would be left wing media that would do that. LOL<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5209358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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