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Fox’s Campaign Carl Claims ‘You Can’t Dispute’ That Palin Was ‘Against’ The Bridge To Nowhere

Earlier today, the McCain campaign released an ad pushing the debunked claim that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin “stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.” The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz called the ad’s bridge claim a “whopper,” noting that “she endorsed the remote project while running for governor in 2006.”

But Fox News political reporter Carl Cameron defended the ad’s claim. Though Cameron notes that Palin spoke “very favorably” of the project before becoming governor, he declared that “Palin can point to a number of things she did and said that made it clear that in the end she was against it.” “You can’t dispute that,” said Cameron:

CAMERON: The Obama campaign is accusing the McCainiacs of lying about this “bridge to nowhere” issue. But Sarah Palin can point to a number of things she did and said that made it clear that in the end she was against it. You can’t dispute that, she ultimately told legislators in Alaska, it’s not coming. But there was a time before she was governor, as a candidate, where she spoke favorably about it.

Cameron went on to claim that it’s “inaccurate” to say Palin “asked for earmark money and pork” because “it’s done by members of Congress.” Watch it:

As ThinkProgress has noted, the reality is that Palin supported the bridge before reluctantly ending the project when it was “clear” that Congress had “little interest in spending any more money” on the bridge. As the AP notes in a fact check, Palin made the decision only “after federal dollars for the project were pulled back and diverted to other uses in Alaska.”

As for Cameron’s claim that it is “inaccurate” to say Palin “asked for earmark money,” the AP notes that “as mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million.” This past February, “Palin’s office sent Sen. [Ted] Stevens a 70-page memo outlining almost $200 million worth of new funding requests for the state.”

Check out our new Lies to Nowhere document.

Transcript:

CAMERON: Oh, it’s not an easy one to straighten out at all, John. There’s a lot of sort of nuance involved in how this plays out. Back when Sarah Palin was the Mayor of Wasilla in Alaska and the bridge was beginning to be the buzz of congressional spending, she spoke very favorably about it. When she was a candidate for governor, she said that there needed to be a link between Ketchikan, the city in Alaska, and a tiny little island, Gravina Island, which had about 50 residents and an airport. She said that there needed to be a link. But political winds began to turn, this $400 million congressional project, dubbed “The Bridge to Nowhere,” became unpopular. The political rhetoric, the din rose, and as it did, it became clear that the federal government wasn’t going to send all of the money for it. And with that change so too did change Sarah Palin’s rhetoric and ultimately, as a candidate for governor, she began to say that she didn’t want Alaska bad mouthed, but it was clear that the federal government wasn’t going to come through with the money, so it was time to look elsewhere.

She did continue to say that there should be some sort of an access and that is why the Democrats have called this ad a lie. They’ve used the L word, John, 58 days before elections and the Obama campaign is accusing the McCainiacs of lying about this Bridge to Nowhere issue. But Sarah Palin can point to a number of things she did and said that made it clear that in the end she was against it. You can’t dispute that, she ultimately told legislators in Alaska, it’s not coming. But there was a time before she was governor, as a candidate, where she spoke favorably about it.

Now, she didn’t ask for the bridge, nor did she ask for the money. It’s very important to understand in earmark discussions, John, governors and state officials don’t ask for federal money. That’s done by senators and congressmen. So, when people say Sarah Palin asked for earmark money and pork, it’s just inaccurate, it’s done by members of Congress.



88 Responses to “Fox’s Campaign Carl Claims ‘You Can’t Dispute’ That Palin Was ‘Against’ The Bridge To Nowhere”

  1. Chocolate Jesus says:

    YES! USE THE WORD “LIES”! KEEEP USING IT.

    it forces these people to respond and get defensive, drawing attention to the matter.

    no more using the terms “gaffe” “misled” “mispoken” or even “incorrect”

    the correct term is LIE. use the word over and over again. glad to see obama FINALLY start doing this… these are not the type of people you can speak politely to. they arent playing by any rules so why should we treat this like a contest between two gentlemen?


  2. EugeneDebs says:

    Typical of Fox just tell outright lies. What is really disgusting is the rightwing doesnt even go to the trouble to make up believable lies anymore. They know they arent going to convince those of us paying attention that the sky isnt blue and they know their brainwashed hivemind base will believe anything they tell them no matter how ludicrous it is so they just spew out whatever floats to the top of their heads


  3. stateofthedivision says:

    If John Kerry did this, Fox would have their teeth down to the bone. Here, they’re putting lipstick on the pig…


  4. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    They really do ascribe to the theory if they tell a lie enough times people will start believing it’s the truth. All we can do is to keep exposing those lies.

    The Obama campaign needs to IMMEDIATELY come out with an ad showing Sarah Palin supporting the bridge to nowhere and point out that she kept the money given for the access road and is building the access road even though it dead ends where the bridge was supposed to go.

    WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH OBAMA? Why isn’t he taking off the gloves with his advertisements? When is he going to introduce the voters to the real John McSame and Sara Barracuda?


  5. Who Misspoke Today? says:

    A 70 page memo of new funding requests is not a memo; it’s a thome and a abomination. So much for ahem, fiscal responsibility.


  6. gummitch says:

    At least the Obama campaign isn’t rolling over dead, and most of the real national and international media aren’t either. Fox can tell its viewer anything and they’ll gobble it up like a dog gobbles cat poop. New, punchy ad from Obama!

    (Assuming TP’s software allows this.)


  7. MCMetal says:

    CAMERON: You can’t dispute that, she ultimately told legislators in Alaska, it’s not coming.

    What else was left for her to say after Congress cut off funds , you GOP/Chimpy moronic tool ?


  8. DidHeJustSayThat says:

    McCain campaign media operatives Lie about Gov. Palin’s Lie’s about the the ‘Bridge to Nowhere.’

    Isn’t this the DNC Flag Lie instigator?

    What will Carl lie about next?


  9. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >Why isn’t he taking off the gloves
    > with his advertisements?

    looks like he’s started to..

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/8/181212/7790/461/591451

    i REALLY hope this is the beginning of a trend and not an anamoly.


  10. Copano_Texian says:

    Until John McCain selected her as his running mate, it never occurred to anyone to deny that Palin stopped the bridge. That’s certainly what the Anchorage Daily News reported on February 8, 2008:

    Let’s count how many things Gov. Sarah Palin’s predecessor did that she’s undone.
    It’s quite a list.

    The state-owned jet: Sold.

    The proposed Gravina Island “bridge to nowhere” and a pioneer road to Juneau: Won’t be funded.

    And again on March 12, 2008:

    Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin’s antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state. … A common target for earmark snipers is the so-called “bridge to nowhere” plugged by Alaska Rep. Don Young into the five-year transportation bill in 2005. Congress stripped the earmarks directing the spending but let the state keep the money to use on the bridge if it wanted.
    Palin ruffled feathers when she announced – without giving the delegation advance notice – that the state was killing the Ketchikan bridge to Gravina Island, site of the airport and a few dozen residents.

    I don’t know how it could be any clearer: as the McCain ad says, Palin killed the bridge. Indeed, the Alaska Democrats themselves say, on a web site attacking Senator Ted Stevens:

    Gov. Palin recently cancelled the Gravina Island Bridge near Ketchikan that would have connected the Alaska mainland with Gravina Island (population: 50).
    It is frankly ridiculous to deny that Palin killed the bridge, as the ad says. If the Democrats want to attack some other aspect of her record, fine. If they want to say that she (like all state officials) was generally happy to accept federal money when it was offered, fine. But to say that the simple statement that she killed the bridge is a “lie” is false and disingenuous


  11. Xisithrus says:

    She didnt kill the bridge, Copano, congress did.


  12. Copano_Texian says:

    Now that Alaska is front and center in the news again, it is a good time to catch up on a favorite story, The Bridge to Nowhere, using the Washington Post US Congress Votes Database.

    Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.

    However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.

    http://cdobs.com/archive/our-columns/obama-and-biden-voted-for-bridge-to-nowhere,1628/

    Gravina Island Bridge
    Ted Earmarked Funds for Bridge that Goes Nowhere
    Stevens championed proposed bridge near Ketchikan that became national symbol of wasteful spending
    Sen. Murkowski’s family would benefit personally from the bridge
    State of Alaska killed bridge
    The proposed Gravina Island Bridge, also known as the “Bridge to Nowhere,” became a national symbol of wasteful congressional spending and driver of earmark reform. On Sept. 21, 2007, the State of Alaska officially abandoned the controversial project.

    The Gravina Island Bridge initially received $223 million in 2005 via earmarks by Alaska Senators Ted Stevens and Lisa Murkowski. The bridge would have connected Ketchikan, Alaska with its local airport on nearby Gravina Island (population 50). Congress stripped the earmark after a national uproar about it but appropriated the money anyway for unspecified transportation uses. Former Gov. Frank Murkowski’s administration set aside about $113 million of the appropriation for the Ketchikan bridge. However, Gov. Sarah Palin said the $398 million bridge was $329 million short of full funding, and only $36 million in federal funds were set aside for it. She said it was clear Congress had little interest in spending any more money for it and that the state had higher priorities.

    http://www.retireted.com/category/real-estate/gravina-bridge/

    Looks like the state democrats in Alaska knew what happened, they even moved the page but put it back after the google chache came back to bite them. Obama is the liar here.


  13. Mr. Evil says:

    Every day we are finding out more and more about Sarah Palin. She is corrupt, unethical, morally bankrupt, religiously twisted and a complete LIAR!!!


  14. Marie says:

    On Palin from Americablog

    Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska from 1996 to 2002. And according to an Alaskan news article in the local Wasilla paper in the year 2000, the City of Wasilla, under Mayor Palin, charged rape victims for their own forensic tests. Most Alaskan municipalities picked up the tab themselves, but not Wasilla, the article notes. You see, the city of Wasilla, the article notes, didn’t want to “burden” taxpayers with having to support victims of rape. Yes, they were more interested in lowering taxes. It would have cost the city between $5,000 and $14,000 a year to pay for the rape victims’ police medical exams. And if the City of Wasillay, circa the year 2000, wants to go there in terms of balancing rape vs, burdening taxpayers, you should know that each and every Alaskan gets a check from the state government each year, it contains their portion of that year’s oil revenues. The latest check, I read, was for over $2,000.


  15. Copano_Texian says:

    The democrats in Alaska say it was the state, are they liars or wrong.


  16. Xisithrus says:

    Congress stripped the earmark after a national uproar about it but appropriated the money anyway for unspecified transportation uses -Copano.

    So much for she killed the bridge, eh?


  17. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about
    > what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin’s
    > antagonism toward the earmarks he uses

    2 questions:

    was this before or after Palin headed the 527 named after him?

    if Stevens was so agravated at her, why was he one of the first people to endorse her after she was crowned MCcain’s VP?


  18. Chocolate Jesus says:

    > the City of Wasilla, under Mayor Palin,
    > charged rape victims for their own forensic tests.

    oh, good one! PAY ATTENTION OBAMA CAMPAIGN!
    this needs to be made into a commerical!

    I think Palin’s attitude was “if they didnt have a gun, or a man, or a man with a gun, or a gun and a man with a gun to protect them, they deserve what they got”


  19. gummitch says:

    Copano_Texian Says:

    It is frankly ridiculous to deny that Palin killed the bridge, as the ad says. If the Democrats want to attack some other aspect of her record, fine. If they want to say that she (like all state officials) was generally happy to accept federal money when it was offered, fine. But to say that the simple statement that she killed the bridge is a “lie” is false and disingenuous

    Piffle.

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) – It garnered big applause in her first speech as Republican John McCain’s vice presidential pick, but Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for the so-called “bridge to nowhere” has upset many Alaskans.

    During her first speech after being named as McCain’s surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress “‘thanks but no thanks’ on that bridge to nowhere.”

    In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called “Bridge to Nowhere,” political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska’s Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

    Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.

    The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.

    In fact, the Palin administration has spent “tens of millions of dollars” in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.

    Palin “stopped work” on the bridge because the federal government refused to fund it.


  20. gummitch says:

    Oops. Screwed up the formatting. All the italicized paragraphs after the blockquote are from the same article.


  21. Bob says:

    She ran on support for it, right? She went against the constituents, utimately, that got her elected. Is that being disputed?


  22. IBTunion4obama says:

    Nothing fiscal about running the city of 8,000 citizens into 22 million dollars of debt.


  23. Copano_Texian says:

    Gov. Palin recently cancelled the Gravina Island Bridge near Ketchikan that would have connected the Alaska mainland with Gravina Island (population: 50).
    from an Alskan Democrats website
    She stopped the work, you are wrong, she’s not a liar, you are the liars. Go back after her kids now, because this isnt working.


  24. Peter C says:

    I think it is disengenuous to talk about the bridge as linking Ketchikan with Gravina Island – POPULATION 50. It is linking Ketchikan with the AIRPORT (only accessible by Ferry).

    In a better world, we’d be discussing the project in terms of its economic merit relative to the other infrastructure needs of the nation, not as some imperfect ’symbol’ of whether someone is ‘taking on’ Washington.

    Alaska, with its powerful Senators and Representative, was able to secure funding for more projects than other, more populous states whose representation in Washington had less political influenence. When Palin says, “thanks but no thanks”, she SEEMS to be saying that she REFUSED money from Washington sent for an infrustructure project. However, SHE TOOK THE MONEY and killed the project. She wasn’t protecting US taxpayers from wasteful spending. She wasn’t looking out for the economic development of Alaska. She was merely exercising arbitrary power.

    Now, she is selling a lie as a way to get more power.

    We deserve better. We deserve the truth.


  25. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Copano_Texian Says:

    The democrats in Alaska say it was the state, are they liars or wrong.
    ____________

    how about a 3rd choice… you’re a blippin’ moron?


  26. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    I wonder what Sarah Palin’s children think when they sit there and listen to her lie day after day. Do you suppose they are thinking “Oh boy, the next time she catches me in a lie, I can say, you do it too”?

    What a role model this woman is.


  27. dbadass says:

    Copano_Texian:
    What if we care onlt tagentially about the bridge, and even less about her kids but are just plain amused by the madeup American dream story and the capacity of so many to bite that hook? What do you suggest then?


  28. Xisithrus says:

    She ran on support for it, right? She went against the constituents, utimately, that got her elected. Is that being disputed? -Bob

    No, she didnt go against the constituents. She changed her mind, he said, when “she saw that Alaska was being perceived as taking from the country and not giving …” -Bill Mcallister Palin communications director. She didnt go against her constituents because she basically pinned no longer funding it on because of congress. IE she was not to blame for the lack of funding AFTER she was elected. Its politics and she got caught waffling and spinning.


  29. Chocolate Jesus says:

    Cophrafeces El HickianoRedneckianiata sed:

    >The democrats in Alaska say it was the state, are they liars >or wrong.

    Link? And when are you going to answer the two questions i asked smart guy?


  30. Bob says:

    So the bridge got built or not?


  31. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Copano_Texian Says:
    She stopped the work, you are wrong, she’s not a liar, you are the liars. Go back after her kids now, because this isnt working.

    There was no work to stop since Congress never approved the “Bridge to nowhere”. She did, however, keep the money the taxpayers gave her to build the access road to the “bridge to nowehere”, and I believe that she did build that road.

    So, I suppose you think that the photo of her holding the “Nowhere Alaska 99901″ T-shirt.

    You, sir, are a liar. You fit in well with your brethren, the righties.


  32. pete says:

    Slightly off topic but, what’s the justification for “drilling here and now” if OPEC is cutting production?

    http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/newsmlmmd.e719617e0037c36a19d414bd7249144d.4c1.html


  33. Zooey says:

    “Palin can point to a number of things she did and said that made it clear that in the end she was against it.”

    Pardon me, but didn’t the Republicans f ucking slaughter Kerry for this type of flip-flop?


  34. dbadass says:

    pete you are forgetting the fantasy “energy independent” phrase which is so bandied about these days. I love that one. The fattest pigs at the trough are somehow incapable of being expected to just eat a little less but will somehow just fend for themselves. Sure….


  35. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    The righties are claiming that Biden and Obama voted for the Bridge to Nowhere. I don’t know if that’s true or not because I couldn’t find a reputable news source that said so. But, be that as it may. The bridge was undoubtedly part of a larger spending bill and that may have been why they “voted for it”, if they did. But that is not the point. They are not claiming that they killed something that was already dead or that they didn’t support something they did. In other words, they didn’t lie.

    Also, I don’t find it unusual that McBush didn’t vote for the bill because he has missed so many votes, what difference does it make? I doubt that he didn’t vote because he didn’t support the Bridge. If that was the case he would have showed up and voted no.


  36. pete says:

    Wow! The McTrolls from McSpin’s McSite are falling in quality. Haven’t you been paying attention, troll?

    No one gives a rip about her kids, grand kids, nieces, nephews and assorted kin. It’s her constant lying and profound ignorance, compounded by a proudly avowed Belief in myth over method, that makes her completely unqualified for elected office. She’s dangerously dogmatic and ignorant and that’s before her radical politics are even considered. Then there’s the fact that she has yet to make a statement, to my knowledge, which didn’t contain obvious lies.

    “My opponents want to do nothing” about energy. That’s an exact quote. It’s a blatant lie. It, alone, disqualifies her in my estimation. There are hundreds of similar asinine statements in her public speeches.


  37. dbadass says:

    It might be sort of fun to image a Palin/Biden debate moderated by James Stockdale and Dan Quayle.



  38. pete says:

    Are you kidding db? Poor Biden would be reduced to catatonia by the concentrated stupid. If he even managed to survive.


  39. EugeneDebs says:

    Copano_Texian Says:

    Gov. Palin recently cancelled the Gravina Island Bridge near Ketchikan that would have connected the Alaska mainland with Gravina Island (population: 50).
    from an Alskan Democrats website
    She stopped the work, you are wrong, she’s not a liar, you are the liars. Go back after her kids now, because this isnt working.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No YOU are either a liar or a fool. Do you think repeating something over and over makes it TRUE? Repitition is NOT a magica formula that makes nonsense into reality. Did she stop the bridge? YES, but the issue here is the earmarks and she TOOK and KEPT the money. She was FOR the bridge to GET THE MONEY and what she says is that she told Congress no thanks but she DID NOT DO SO she said THANKS for the money that I CAMPAIGNED on for the bridge and I will use THE EARMARK for something else it is a FLAT OUT LIE Palin told to say she told Congress no thanks for the Bridge earmark. Not even a good try.


  40. dbadass says:

    That’s what makes it funny pete. It sort of writes itself. Maybe that old dude from Candid Camera could come out just before Biden’s brain breaks…


  41. RUCerious says:

    If she was against it after it was shitcanned by Congress, what the phuck does that count for, politically speaking?

    X, Carl, get your shucking fit together, man!



  42. pete says:

    It would be amusing. But it’s not duty that I would volunteer for. It’s what I would call a “event for two medications”. One, a beta-blocker to prevent me from dying and the other a mood elevator to prevent me from killing.


  43. livelongandprosper says:

    Great ad by Obama’s campaign!


  44. pete says:

    Thanx for the link Shayne! I hope they continue highlighting the lies. Heck! They could get hours of footage of the both of them lying their fannies off. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie!

    I do love the “L” word.


  45. Bob says:

    Water under the bridge, or not, when I look at this republican VP and a secret energy policy and oil and gas prices breaking records and no accountibility, this sort of small-town politics doesn’t look right.

    Yea, it’s great, call them liars, finally!


  46. Shayne says:

    Palin sneers every time she talks about Obama. She even sneers when she says the word senator. She’s still on her best behavior, but she is getting more evil every time she has to repeat that speech. Between that sneer and that evil smile she makes me want to scream.


  47. Game of Life says:

    look how old mcchimpy looks next to a repug “babe.” he looks like her suga daddy. Then look at that stiff arm movement of his. It looks like he giving the thumbs up to his captors.

    mcchimpy: Oh I had a hard time and I cracked after 2 hours. You guys don’t what it’s like to be with a phone for 1 hour.

    mcchimpy don’t f9ck with my US and I wont f9ck with you.


  48. misshusseinmolly says:

    I suppose it’s possible she didn’t want the bridge — she just wanted the money. Which she got. And which she’s not ethical enough to give back.


  49. misshusseinmolly says:

    Shayne Says
    September 8th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Palin sneers every time she talks about Obama. She even sneers when she says the word senator.
    ___________________________________________________

    Does she realize her new boss is a senator? Sneering while saying “senator” might not go all that well with McTemper.

    Oh wait. Does her new boss realize he’s a senator? He may have forgotten.



  50. Shayne says:

    And tonight McCain raised $5 million at a fundraiser in Chicago even though he’s receiving public funds and can’t use it, supposedly.


  51. Shayne says:

    I wonder too what the other senators think of her dismissing sneer every time she says it.


  52. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    CAMERON: The Obama campaign is accusing the McCainiacs of lying about this “bridge to nowhere” issue. But Sarah Palin can point to a number of things she did and said that made it clear that in the end she was against it. You can’t dispute that, she ultimately told legislators in Alaska, it’s not coming. But there was a time before she was governor, as a candidate, where she spoke favorably about it.

    Cameron is being dishonest (call it what you will, but there are degrees of lying). Notice the qualification ..in the end she was against it…. He is admitting that there was a time when she wasn’t against it. And we know this because she campaigned on getting it done, thanks to her Congressional Delegation. But then he completely downplays the evidence of hypocrisy (a word they hate but a practice they love) when he says, “But there was a time before she was governor, as a candidate, where she spoke favorably about it.” She didn’t merely “speak favorably about it,” she wanted it!

    And they managed to get Keith Olbermann kicked out of the Politics Anchor Chair because he wasn’t unbiased enough? Frankly, I thought he was just doing what any good citizen should do during an election campaign, speak truth to would-be power.


  53. Shayne says:

    Why be for it if you’re going to get the money any way and then can spend it how ever you want. Easier to spread it out to your friends that way.


  54. Keith says:

    The money did not go back. It went to gravel roads. Must have been mighty expensive gravel. Wolf Blitzer today, by not being specific, gave the impression that the money went back to the fed government. He said she was for it before opinion was so strongly against it.

    How come Track was born only 7 1/2 months after she married?
    How come she made four college changes before getting a BA? What were her grades like? They can’t find a teacher who knew her or a club or newspaper she was with as a journalism major.


  55. pete says:

    Hmmm. If I understand it correctly?

    The original funding was in the form of an earmark by good ol’ Ted Stevens. Then the original earmark was stripped in 05. Before Obama or Palin were even running for their current offices.

    The funding was reinstated in Nov. 06, I haven’t discovered whether it was voted on or another earmark. This was shortly after Obama and Palin were elected but, before they assumed their current offices. At this point Palin supported the project and I’ve found no mention of Obama stating an opinion.

    The whole project was started and stopped by both the Feds and Alaskan officials. Congress finally killed federal funding in 07 and again, I’ve found no mention of Obama’s position. Also, later in 07, Ms. Palin signed the bill killing state funding.

    But, and this is key, she lobbied hard for the project up until the second she realized the federal funding would never come forth and it was widely regarded as an outrageous “pork project” since before she even dreamed of running for governor.

    Ms. Palin has explicitly stated that she “killed the bridge to nowhere”. That’s a lie.

    I really think the Obama campaign should go right down the list on both these characters. If they can manage to frame the arguments, and associate McSpin/Palin’s faces with a banner that says “LIAR”? No amount of voter fraud will be able to stem the landslide.


  56. Zooey says:

    old_hack Says:

    Obama’s a muslim
    September 8th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    You are f ucking stupid — as per usual.


  57. pete says:

    And you folks are right. The state kept the “earnest money” though, to be fair, no where near the entirety of the whole funding package ever made it to Alaska in the first place. But what had been paid was written off as a sunk cost.


  58. had enough says:

    What disturbs me most about this b!tch is the way she goes after Obama’s saint like quality… the fact he went out on the streets to help the poor instead of doing what most do – seek gainful employment. She is mocking and trying to humiliate Obama’s Christian behavior and at the same time claiming to be the real Christian.

    And some of the people are buying it.

    How stupid and low can the human race get?


  59. pete says:

    Good evening Zooey. I’ve been lurking at a couple Fundy sites and, believe me, “Muslim” is about the kindest thing they call Sen. Obama. Poor frightened sheeple. They are pretty convinced that he’s an agent of Satan. I even saw one who claimed that the string of hurricanes will continue, getting closer and closer to Washington, until we “reject the Antichrist“!

    Ain’t no way to reach that kinda stupid without a baseball bat, a tranquilizer rifle, or a taser!


  60. Jane E. Schneider says:

    pete Says:

    Good evening Zooey. I’ve been lurking at a couple Fundy sites and, believe me, “Muslim” is about the kindest thing they call Sen. Obama. Poor frightened sheeple. They are pretty convinced that he’s an agent of Satan. I even saw one who claimed that the string of hurricanes will continue, getting closer and closer to Washington, until we “reject the Antichrist“!

    Ain’t no way to reach that kinda stupid without a baseball bat, a tranquilizer rifle, or a taser!

    September 8th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    OMG, pete, you’ve got to be kidding! I don’t know how you could go to those sites, your eyes must burn.


  61. Keith says:

    pretty low, had enough, pretty low


  62. Keith says:

    One blogger I read tonight said she was voting Republican because Track was so “hot”!


  63. Zooey says:

    Oh pete, you poor thing. You must be having nightmares.

    I’ve got a baseball bat. ;)


  64. had enough says:

    old_hack Says:

    Obama’s a muslim
    September 8th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Obama has said many times he is not a Muslim.

    I for one believe most know this, including you, but continue to put it out there for what ever reason.

    This is a desperate idiotic lie… and if he was Muslim so what? This is also hurtful to the Muslim population… shame on you.

    So disgusted and sick to death of all this nasty behavior.


  65. Keith says:

    I believe the Antichrist is supposed to occupy Babylon for 100 years. That fits McCain, not Obama.


  66. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    A little O/T: (hot off the Daily Kos press). Credit to: by Granny Doc, who dug through the just released records of the town of Wasilla, Alaska and found (or collated) this list.

    a short list of the books Mayor Palin wanted to ban from the Wasilla library

    Look at the list of books Palin wanted to ban.

    Books Mayor Sarah Palin tried to remove from Wasilla library

    This information is taken from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board.

    When the librarian refused to ban the books, Palin tried to get her fired.

    A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
    A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
    Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
    As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
    Blubber by Judy Blume
    Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
    Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
    Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
    Carrie by Stephen King
    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
    Christine by Stephen King
    Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
    Cujo by Stephen King
    Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
    Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
    Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
    Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
    Decameron by Boccaccio
    East of Eden by John Steinbeck
    Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
    Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
    Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
    Forever by Judy Blume
    Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
    Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
    Have to Go by Robert Munsch
    Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
    How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
    Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
    Impressions edited by Jack Booth
    In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
    It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
    James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
    Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
    Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
    Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
    Lord of the Flies by William Golding
    Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
    Lysistrata by Aristophanes
    More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
    My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher
    Collier
    My House by Nikki Giovanni
    My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
    Night Chills by Dean Koontz
    Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
    On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
    One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
    One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
    One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
    Ordinary People by Judith Guest
    Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
    Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
    Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
    Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
    Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
    Separate Peace by John Knowles
    Silas Marner by George Eliot
    Slaughterhouse- Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
    Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
    The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
    The Bastard by John Jakes
    The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
    The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
    The Color Purple by Alice Walker
    The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
    The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
    The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
    The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
    The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
    The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
    The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
    The Living Bible by William C. Bower
    The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
    The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
    The Pigman by Paul Zindel
    The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
    The Shining by Stephen King
    The Witches by Roald Dahl
    The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
    Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
    To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
    Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
    Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster
    Editorial Staff
    Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween
    Symbols by Edna Barth

    End of file.


  67. Zooey says:

    OT:

    We’re having a little celebration at TheZoo. We’ve had over 500,000 views of our little blog.

    A Million Eyes Upon Us….YOURS!


  68. Zooey says:

    Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:

    I’ll say it again: That list is highly suspect, since the Harry Potter books came out AFTER Palin was no longer Mayor of Wasilla.

    Just sayin’…


  69. Keith says:

    Oval aka James,
    CNN said that list was bogus. They say quite a few were not even written in 1996 or whenever.


  70. Keith says:

    Why would Cujo be censored, anyway?


  71. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Zooey Says:

    I’ve got a baseball bat. ;)

    September 9th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    And I’ve got a rolling pin. :D


  72. kuvasz says:

    Um, she was for it before she was against it? haven’t heard that before have we?


  73. had enough says:

    Keith Says:

    One blogger I read tonight said she was voting Republican because Track was so “hot”!

    Where on earth have you been to read that?


  74. Keith says:

    had enough,
    Don’t remember. You know—one site links to another and before you know it, you’re looking at pictures of Anna Kournikova.


  75. Zooey says:

    Thanks for stopping by the Zoo, Keith. :-)


  76. Keith says:

    My pleasure, Zooey, Simon and Gar said it’s all happening at the zoo.


  77. sacopenapa says:

    This is a beauty MATE…
    This comes from DEMOCRACYNOW:

    Palin: Iraq War is a “Task” from God
    In campaign news, a video has emerged of Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin telling ministry students at her former church that the US invasion of Iraq is a task from God.

    Sarah Palin: “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan. So bless them with your prayers, your prayers of protection over our soldiers.”

    During the same address, Palin said the construction of a new oil pipeline in Alaska is God’s will.

    Sarah Palin: “I can do my part in doing things like working really, really hard to get a natural gas pipeline, about a $30 billion project that’s going to create a lot of jobs for Alaskans, and we’ll have a lot of energy flowing through here. And pray about that also. I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”

    The video of her speech was originally posted on the Wasilla Assembly of God’s website


  78. Gregor Samsa says:

    Right.

    Just like you can’t dispute that those WMD were found in Iraq….


  79. Jane E. Schneider says:

    That’s right, Keith, but you gotta watch out for those pigeons plotting in secrecy and the reactionary zebras. But the hamsters do have fun!


  80. Gregor Samsa says:

    “I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”
    ~Sara Palin

    This just in from Captain Obvious: If all it takes to get things done is a little prayer, why would you want to run for VP, campaigning as a competent, experienced candidate?

    I mean, who needs experience and competency when you have Gawd on your side? Why, you could just stay home and pray all bloody day long, for that matter.

    But the 23%ers fall for this nonsense over, and over, and over…


  81. Gregor Samsa says:

  82. The Shadow says:

    This women lies like a cheap rug. You guys need to tell you wives, girlfriends, sisters and mothers and co workers the truth about her. This whole thing in the words of Bill Clinton is “the biggest ferrytale” I’ve ever heard. They tell lie after lie about the positions and the media which knows better does nothing to correct the record. Guys this election is too important to let them win it based on LIES. We have to stand up on U Tube and anywhere else and tell the truth about this rightwing idiot.



  83. desertflower1 says:

    Yeah, and it also seems that she is against the state of Alaska paying for rape victims forensic tests…americablog.com has the info..Everyday brings a new revolation. None of them good!! Pass it on!


  84. desertflower1 says:

    Gregor Samsa….maybe so. But just the fact that she inquired about this at all…on at least 3 occasions, is frightening.



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