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	<title>Comments on: Palin&#8217;s first gaffe: Claims Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac are taxpayer-funded.</title>
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		<title>By: SerkaN</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5601651</link>
		<dc:creator>SerkaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SerkaN</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5598565</link>
		<dc:creator>SerkaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flash oyun</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5544134</link>
		<dc:creator>flash oyun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo nunca habia visto a Eugenio Derbez haciendo el papel de malo pero esta pelicula esta muy bonita y si le cae ambos papeles pero lo disfruto mas cuando hace el papel de comedian
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo nunca habia visto a Eugenio Derbez haciendo el papel de malo pero esta pelicula esta muy bonita y si le cae ambos papeles pero lo disfruto mas cuando hace el papel de comedian<br />
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		<title>By: Oyun</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5494832</link>
		<dc:creator>Oyun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Jakobovics of the Center for American Progress Action Fund. “The ‘too expensive to tax payers,’ I don’t know where that comes from</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Jakobovics of the Center for American Progress Action Fund. “The ‘too expensive to tax payers,’ I don’t know where that comes from<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5494832', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ahmet mehmet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5482740</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmet mehmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want suits in Colorado, New Jersey, and any other state where illegal suppression campaigns are being conducted. And some real looks at the polling methodology would also be eye opening.</p>
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		<title>By: dans</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5474312</link>
		<dc:creator>dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks <a href="http://taraftarfb.com" rel="nofollow">Lida Dai Dai Hua Jiao Nang Seo Yar??mas?</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5474312', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: doktorgizemli</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5469110</link>
		<dc:creator>doktorgizemli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you’re referring to Karl Schwarz’ articles, if they are true, how will we ever know unless the news media gets involved without bias? The military under orders not to speak out may never convey Karl Scharz’ expose’. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seslisohbett.org&quot; title=&quot;sesli sohbet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sesli Sohbet&lt;/a&gt; If Cheney was truly involved in 9/11 and protected in some way, then he’s being protected by what may be going on in the Caspian Sea area as well. That pre-9/11 August 10, 2000 article drives the point home to me that Cheney had a vested interest in the oil at the Caspian Sea area (before 9/11). &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fx15x.bloggum.com&quot; title=&quot;fx15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fx15&lt;/a&gt; From all I’ve read in Schwarz’ articles, he claims the Taliban was working on a deal with Argentina with that pipeline in the Caspian Sea area and UNOCOL wanted the deal instead. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orjinallidax.blogcu.com&quot; title=&quot;lida, orjinal lida&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Orjinal Lida&lt;/a&gt; It’s too much to get into here and I’m not able to convey in here what Schwarz has presented in his articles. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guzelsikis.com&quot; title=&quot;siki?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sikis&lt;/a&gt; Dig into Schwarz’ articles to learn more about the unnamed soldier’s experiences related to so-called Black Ops missions in the Caspian Sea area in Schwarz’ article. What Schwarz had to present in this article is an eye opener: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kurtlarvadisipususonbolum.blogcu.com&quot; title=&quot;kurtlar vadisi pusu izle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kurtlar vadisi pusu izle&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’re referring to Karl Schwarz’ articles, if they are true, how will we ever know unless the news media gets involved without bias? The military under orders not to speak out may never convey Karl Scharz’ expose’. <a href="http://www.seslisohbett.org" title="sesli sohbet" rel="nofollow">Sesli Sohbet</a> If Cheney was truly involved in 9/11 and protected in some way, then he’s being protected by what may be going on in the Caspian Sea area as well. That pre-9/11 August 10, 2000 article drives the point home to me that Cheney had a vested interest in the oil at the Caspian Sea area (before 9/11). <a href="http://www.fx15x.bloggum.com" title="fx15" rel="nofollow">Fx15</a> From all I’ve read in Schwarz’ articles, he claims the Taliban was working on a deal with Argentina with that pipeline in the Caspian Sea area and UNOCOL wanted the deal instead. <a href="http://www.orjinallidax.blogcu.com" title="lida, orjinal lida" rel="nofollow">Orjinal Lida</a> It’s too much to get into here and I’m not able to convey in here what Schwarz has presented in his articles. <a href="http://www.guzelsikis.com" title="siki?" rel="nofollow">Sikis</a> Dig into Schwarz’ articles to learn more about the unnamed soldier’s experiences related to so-called Black Ops missions in the Caspian Sea area in Schwarz’ article. What Schwarz had to present in this article is an eye opener: <a href="http://www.kurtlarvadisipususonbolum.blogcu.com" title="kurtlar vadisi pusu izle" rel="nofollow">kurtlar vadisi pusu izle</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5469110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: doktorgizemli</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5418342</link>
		<dc:creator>doktorgizemli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another example that the &quot;old world jounalism of Murrow, Cronkite and Rather is dead and buried. In the case of the Time Magazine reporter Ms Tumulty, she seems to think the finding out the who, what, where, when and how have been replaced with a steno pad, which she records what ABC said in rebuttle to the complaint of Congressman Kucinich. There is a great disconnect with what happened and the points made by ABC. She asks little of no questions to ABC. She takes what is handed to her and repeats it vebatim and then calls that reporting. I call is stenography. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lidasatis.com&quot; title=&quot;lida&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lida&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harikasohbet.com&quot; title=&quot;Sohbet, sohpet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sohbet&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idealsohbet.com&quot; title=&quot;sohbet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sohbet&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canlarseslichat.com&quot; title=&quot;sesli chat, sesli sohbet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sesli chat&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idealgelinlik.com&quot; title=&quot;gelinlik modelleri&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gelinlik Modelleri&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another example that the &#8220;old world jounalism of Murrow, Cronkite and Rather is dead and buried. In the case of the Time Magazine reporter Ms Tumulty, she seems to think the finding out the who, what, where, when and how have been replaced with a steno pad, which she records what ABC said in rebuttle to the complaint of Congressman Kucinich. There is a great disconnect with what happened and the points made by ABC. She asks little of no questions to ABC. She takes what is handed to her and repeats it vebatim and then calls that reporting. I call is stenography. <a href="http://www.lidasatis.com" title="lida" rel="nofollow">Lida</a> <a href="http://www.harikasohbet.com" title="Sohbet, sohpet" rel="nofollow">Sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.idealsohbet.com" title="sohbet" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.canlarseslichat.com" title="sesli chat, sesli sohbet" rel="nofollow">sesli chat</a> <a href="http://www.idealgelinlik.com" title="gelinlik modelleri" rel="nofollow">Gelinlik Modelleri</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5418342', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5216244</link>
		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard of lightweights before but isn&#039;t Sarah Paiin pushing the envelope?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of lightweights before but isn&#8217;t Sarah Paiin pushing the envelope?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5216244', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5216220</link>
		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and wait! There is more!!!!!
This is from DEMOCRACYNOW:
&lt;em&gt;Palin: Iraq War is a “Task” from God
In campaign news, a video has emerged of Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin telling ministry students at her former church that the US invasion of Iraq is a task from God.

Sarah Palin: “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan. So bless them with your prayers, your prayers of protection over our soldiers.”

During the same address, Palin said the construction of a new oil pipeline in Alaska is God’s will.

Sarah Palin: “I can do my part in doing things like working really, really hard to get a natural gas pipeline, about a $30 billion project that’s going to create a lot of jobs for Alaskans, and we’ll have a lot of energy flowing through here. And pray about that also. I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”

The video of her speech was originally posted on the Wasilla Assembly of God’s website
&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and wait! There is more!!!!!<br />
This is from DEMOCRACYNOW:<br />
<em>Palin: Iraq War is a “Task” from God<br />
In campaign news, a video has emerged of Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin telling ministry students at her former church that the US invasion of Iraq is a task from God.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin: “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan. So bless them with your prayers, your prayers of protection over our soldiers.”</p>
<p>During the same address, Palin said the construction of a new oil pipeline in Alaska is God’s will.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin: “I can do my part in doing things like working really, really hard to get a natural gas pipeline, about a $30 billion project that’s going to create a lot of jobs for Alaskans, and we’ll have a lot of energy flowing through here. And pray about that also. I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”</p>
<p>The video of her speech was originally posted on the Wasilla Assembly of God’s website<br />
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		<title>By: Game of Life</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5216032</link>
		<dc:creator>Game of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad mcchimpy showed once again that he&#039;s behind the times, fargo is old news. It may seem hip to you, but we tired of it after the movie. Don&#039;t you know.

palin is a hillbilly Alaskan.

Don&#039;t you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad mcchimpy showed once again that he&#8217;s behind the times, fargo is old news. It may seem hip to you, but we tired of it after the movie. Don&#8217;t you know.</p>
<p>palin is a hillbilly Alaskan.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you know.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5216032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ri-donna</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215932</link>
		<dc:creator>ri-donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with EugeneDebs who says:

The truth is this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. If you are a mom and pop business you better watch that bottom line but if you are a big corporation there never WAS any risk for you. The taxpayer has ALWAYS been there to bail them out.

The problem is, we&#039;re not supposed to notice that the middle class taxpayer is always bailing out the rich.  We&#039;re always told &quot;Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.&quot;  Those of us who see through the smoke and mirrors are made out to be malcontents, crazy, or both (and sometimes anti-American, too).

Fannie and Freddie aren&#039;t supposed to be taxpayer supported, but they are.  There has always been that government guarantee there.  And the administrators of the two purposely took on loans from people whom they KNEW were mortgaging property for more than it would be worth once the real estate market settled down and the administrators KNEW those people would eventually not be able to afford the payments-- many were VERY bad risks to start with-- and they made the loans anyway.  Why?  Two reasons.  First, those administrators were earning highly paid bonuses based on how much business they did.  Second, they figured there was little chance that the taxpayers wouldn&#039;t be forced to bail out Fannie and Freddie.

Hey, people, if you think that middle class taxpayers haven&#039;t been involved in paying toward those loans even before big bailout time, you haven&#039;t been looking behind the curtain.

Do you realize that one of those bigwigs who lost his job and was under indictment cut a deal that supposedly cost him $25 million, but $16 million was in stock options wherein he had the option to buy stock at $70/share that&#039;s now selling for $9/share?  The rest  of the $25 million was in things like insurance, retirement, etc.  What did he really lose?  Nothing!  And all of the top cats at Fannie and Freddie have taken millions in bonuses that they&#039;re never going to have to pay back, even though they committed malfeasance in their jobs.  Who&#039;s going to pay the real $1.6 trillion this fiasco is going to cost-- not the billions we&#039;ve been told it will cost?  Those of us making between $60,000 and $175,000 in income annually.  Not the rich, the middle class-- again.

In this Gov. Palin didn&#039;t state the whole magilla, but if that&#039;s not a tax...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with EugeneDebs who says:</p>
<p>The truth is this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. If you are a mom and pop business you better watch that bottom line but if you are a big corporation there never WAS any risk for you. The taxpayer has ALWAYS been there to bail them out.</p>
<p>The problem is, we&#8217;re not supposed to notice that the middle class taxpayer is always bailing out the rich.  We&#8217;re always told &#8220;Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.&#8221;  Those of us who see through the smoke and mirrors are made out to be malcontents, crazy, or both (and sometimes anti-American, too).</p>
<p>Fannie and Freddie aren&#8217;t supposed to be taxpayer supported, but they are.  There has always been that government guarantee there.  And the administrators of the two purposely took on loans from people whom they KNEW were mortgaging property for more than it would be worth once the real estate market settled down and the administrators KNEW those people would eventually not be able to afford the payments&#8211; many were VERY bad risks to start with&#8211; and they made the loans anyway.  Why?  Two reasons.  First, those administrators were earning highly paid bonuses based on how much business they did.  Second, they figured there was little chance that the taxpayers wouldn&#8217;t be forced to bail out Fannie and Freddie.</p>
<p>Hey, people, if you think that middle class taxpayers haven&#8217;t been involved in paying toward those loans even before big bailout time, you haven&#8217;t been looking behind the curtain.</p>
<p>Do you realize that one of those bigwigs who lost his job and was under indictment cut a deal that supposedly cost him $25 million, but $16 million was in stock options wherein he had the option to buy stock at $70/share that&#8217;s now selling for $9/share?  The rest  of the $25 million was in things like insurance, retirement, etc.  What did he really lose?  Nothing!  And all of the top cats at Fannie and Freddie have taken millions in bonuses that they&#8217;re never going to have to pay back, even though they committed malfeasance in their jobs.  Who&#8217;s going to pay the real $1.6 trillion this fiasco is going to cost&#8211; not the billions we&#8217;ve been told it will cost?  Those of us making between $60,000 and $175,000 in income annually.  Not the rich, the middle class&#8211; again.</p>
<p>In this Gov. Palin didn&#8217;t state the whole magilla, but if that&#8217;s not a tax&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215932', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215896</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it not odd, EugeneDebs, how they can say, &quot;Republicans say what they mean and mean what they say and stick with it no matter what&quot; then, when one of them says something that&#039;s flat-out wrong and dishonest, it becomes an &quot;innocent mistake&quot;?
What bloody rot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not odd, EugeneDebs, how they can say, &#8220;Republicans say what they mean and mean what they say and stick with it no matter what&#8221; then, when one of them says something that&#8217;s flat-out wrong and dishonest, it becomes an &#8220;innocent mistake&#8221;?<br />
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215870</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup Says: 
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Obama was tired when he made the 57 states comment.

But, many (not all) of the gaffes that Democrats highlight of Republicans are also slips of the tongues that they type to exploit. It happens on both sides.
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No it isnt fair to say Democrats do the same thing. For instance when Bush said that our enemies never stop thinking of ways to hurt America and neither will we. Dems didnt keep harping on what obviously was a slip of the tongue and pretending that Bush meant what he said. Also Palin is LYING about the bridge not a slip of the tongue that she made twenty times or more. This Fannie Mae thing also NOT a slip of the tongue it was the point she was making and THAT cant be a slip of the tongue</description>
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<p>Obama was tired when he made the 57 states comment.</p>
<p>But, many (not all) of the gaffes that Democrats highlight of Republicans are also slips of the tongues that they type to exploit. It happens on both sides.<br />
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<p>No it isnt fair to say Democrats do the same thing. For instance when Bush said that our enemies never stop thinking of ways to hurt America and neither will we. Dems didnt keep harping on what obviously was a slip of the tongue and pretending that Bush meant what he said. Also Palin is LYING about the bridge not a slip of the tongue that she made twenty times or more. This Fannie Mae thing also NOT a slip of the tongue it was the point she was making and THAT cant be a slip of the tongue<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215870', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215768</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon b-kup. You can&#039;t compare uttering the wrong number with repeated, deliberate, lies. Or, if they aren&#039;t lies, demonstrations of a profound ignorance of the issues at hand.

This woman throws out &quot;our Christian Founders&quot; like it&#039;s truth while pushing for the elimination of science from classrooms. She is blatantly unqualified on the grounds of talent and temperament. As is her running mate, for choosing her if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon b-kup. You can&#8217;t compare uttering the wrong number with repeated, deliberate, lies. Or, if they aren&#8217;t lies, demonstrations of a profound ignorance of the issues at hand.</p>
<p>This woman throws out &#8220;our Christian Founders&#8221; like it&#8217;s truth while pushing for the elimination of science from classrooms. She is blatantly unqualified on the grounds of talent and temperament. As is her running mate, for choosing her if nothing else.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was tired when he made the 57 states comment.

But, many (not all) of the gaffes that Democrats highlight of Republicans are also slips of the tongues that they type to exploit.  It happens on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was tired when he made the 57 states comment.</p>
<p>But, many (not all) of the gaffes that Democrats highlight of Republicans are also slips of the tongues that they type to exploit.  It happens on both sides.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215710', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215702</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tahut Says: 

What I find interesting in this bailout is all the Democrats are having a serious problem seeing the forest because of all the trees.
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The truth is this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. If you are a mom and pop business you better watch that bottom line but if you are a big corporation there never WAS any risk for you. The taxpayer has ALWAYS been there to bail them out.</description>
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<p>What I find interesting in this bailout is all the Democrats are having a serious problem seeing the forest because of all the trees.<br />
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<p>The truth is this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. If you are a mom and pop business you better watch that bottom line but if you are a big corporation there never WAS any risk for you. The taxpayer has ALWAYS been there to bail them out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215702', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215698</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beethoven Rules Says: 

You think she believes there are 57 states like obama does?
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He believes no such thing you hivemind moron. He made an obvious slip of the tongue. Do you think McCain never stops thinking of ways to hurt America like Bush said about himself? Go pour yourself a nice steaming cup of STFU</description>
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<p>You think she believes there are 57 states like obama does?<br />
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<p>He believes no such thing you hivemind moron. He made an obvious slip of the tongue. Do you think McCain never stops thinking of ways to hurt America like Bush said about himself? Go pour yourself a nice steaming cup of STFU<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215680</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RightOfAttila Says: 

This shows how little you people know. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were both created by the goverment as instruments to guarantee mortgages. It was only in 1968 that these two entities were made “private”. Now that the tax-payers are bailing them out they have become too expensive. Now whose idea was this? It was FDR a democrat!
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No this shows how STUPID you are. Pretty much as stupid as most rightwingers rivalling a ball of lint in the IQ dept. Yeah we KNOW that they were created during the depression to help people buy homes. No one here said anything else. However they started to make money so OF COURSE they were sold to private interests. That was over 40 YEARS AGO. I assume Palin hasnt been in a coma or in a cave in Sri Lanka for the last forty years exactly what does 1938 have to do with 2008? You do know you are a complete moron dont you?</description>
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<p>This shows how little you people know. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were both created by the goverment as instruments to guarantee mortgages. It was only in 1968 that these two entities were made “private”. Now that the tax-payers are bailing them out they have become too expensive. Now whose idea was this? It was FDR a democrat!<br />
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<p>No this shows how STUPID you are. Pretty much as stupid as most rightwingers rivalling a ball of lint in the IQ dept. Yeah we KNOW that they were created during the depression to help people buy homes. No one here said anything else. However they started to make money so OF COURSE they were sold to private interests. That was over 40 YEARS AGO. I assume Palin hasnt been in a coma or in a cave in Sri Lanka for the last forty years exactly what does 1938 have to do with 2008? You do know you are a complete moron dont you?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-freddie-mac/comment-page-3/#comment-5215558</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find Mary!  I just read it on the &lt;em&gt;NY Times &lt;/em&gt;website:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08fannie.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin

I think it&#039;s a big deal.  Why?  Two reasons.  One, Carlyle wants the Fed/Treasury to loosen regulations for investing in banks.  There could be a tit-for-tat.  We&#039;ll give you David Moffett for that banking regulation change.  It fits with Carlyle&#039;s &amp; BushCo&#039;s modus operandi.

Second, Carlyle Capital Corporation is in the process of being rolled up.  Freddie Mac could buy their bonds back first or at a more preferred rate.  It&#039;s something for an internal auditor or external accounting firm to watch for.  

But John McCain wants to reduce regulations and accounting standards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find Mary!  I just read it on the <em>NY Times </em>website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08fannie.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08fannie.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a big deal.  Why?  Two reasons.  One, Carlyle wants the Fed/Treasury to loosen regulations for investing in banks.  There could be a tit-for-tat.  We&#8217;ll give you David Moffett for that banking regulation change.  It fits with Carlyle&#8217;s &amp; BushCo&#8217;s modus operandi.</p>
<p>Second, Carlyle Capital Corporation is in the process of being rolled up.  Freddie Mac could buy their bonds back first or at a more preferred rate.  It&#8217;s something for an internal auditor or external accounting firm to watch for.  </p>
<p>But John McCain wants to reduce regulations and accounting standards!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5215558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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