Debate audience laughs at Sen. Pat Roberts’ statements about pre-war intelligence.
Debate audience laughs at Sen. Pat Roberts’ statements about pre-war intelligence.
In a campaign debate between Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) and challenger Jim Slattery yesterday, a “contentious topic” concerned the intelligence used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Audience members laughed when Roberts, former chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, tried to justify U.S. public officials’ mistakes on the war by saying that the entire world got the intelligence on Iraq wrong:
Slattery criticized Roberts for getting the intelligence wrong while serving as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. He said voters should hold politicians accountable when they make such mistakes.
Roberts countered that the world, not just the U.S., got the intelligence wrong — and once that was realized it was his committee that made the information public. Several audience members laughed at Roberts’ statement. Unfazed, Roberts continued: “Jim, you wouldn’t even know about this information except for the fact I released it.”
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Just out of curiosity, what are Slattery’s chances against this clown?
September 9th, 2008 at 9:05 pm“Several audience members laughed at Roberts’ statement.”
They should have tarred and feathered the lying a$$ and put him upon the proverbial rail–only used like a skewer on a barbequed pig.
4000 Americans and millions of others dead because “the whole world had it wrong” is no laughing matter. They all belong in Leavenworth.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:12 pmLOL, still drinking the kool-aid, you lying fascist neo-con Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS)!
Let’s see what Drumheller, the CIA’s top man in Europe, the head of covert operations has to say….
“(CBS) When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller — a 26-year veteran of the agency — has decided to do something CIA officials at his level almost never do: Speak out.
He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the president’s determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not.
“It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it’s an intelligence failure. It’s an intelligence failure. This was a policy failure,” Drumheller tells Bradley.
Drumheller was the CIA’s top man in Europe, the head of covert operations there, until he retired a year ago. He says he saw firsthand how the White House promoted intelligence it liked and ignored intelligence it didn’t:
“The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one way or the other,” says Drumheller. ”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml
September 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pmThe millions who marched against the war around the world in late 2002 and 2003 certainly were aware that the invasion of Iraq was illegal and immoral. If only Barack Obaama would realize that sending more American troops into Afghanistan, where they can contribute to the continued slaughter of innocent Afghans, is also illegal and immoral.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:31 pmOld Pat still has his lips firmly attached to the backside of Dick Cheney.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:33 pmRoberts countered that the world, not just the U.S., got the intelligence wrong.
They’re still hoping if they repeat the lie often enough people will believe them.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
September 9th, 2008 at 9:52 pmRemember that disgusting spectacle of Bush jokingly looking under the table at the Press Club?
“Are the WMD here? Nope! How about here? Guess not.”
And millions died because of his big joke.
PEACE
September 9th, 2008 at 9:56 pmRight. It was his committee that stonewalled everything that even hinted at making information public. Glad to see people are finally laughing at his bullshit.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:02 pmI’m an old, white and bitter man – bitter that the Republican establishment continues to spout garbage and try to recreate history. Old enough to know better than to believe this trash from Roberts, and fed up enough to know that McSame is the same.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:10 pmRoberts countered that the world, not just the U.S., got the intelligence wrong — and once that was realized it was his committee that made the information public. Several audience members laughed at Roberts’ statement. Unfazed, Roberts continued: “Jim, you wouldn’t even know about this information except for the fact I released it.”
How about this bit of info I’m releasing , Pat Buttplug …….?
There are currently 193 countries on the planet ; on the eve of the invasion, the White House count of those countries numbered 49, though a review of public statements made by their governments themselves finds only 39 members in this group.
So , anywhere between 140 to 150 or so countries in the “world” , were not part of this so-called “mistake” ; how do you explain that away , Patty cake ?
September 9th, 2008 at 10:18 pmAccording to: Electoral-Vote.com (http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Senate/Maps/Sep09-s.html)
Slattery (D) 31%
September 9th, 2008 at 10:18 pmRoberts (R) 58%
Am I wrong, or is the same Pat Roberts that promised a continuation of some sort of investigation — a phase 2 investigation, so to speak, of the faults of 9/11? Or was that the lead up to the Invasion of Iraq?
And then delayed, and delayed, and delayed past the 2004 election.
Is this the guy?
September 9th, 2008 at 10:20 pmAnne2007 Says:
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According to: Electoral-Vote.com (http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Senate/Maps/Sep09-s.html)
Slattery (D) 31%
Roberts (R) 58%
September 9th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
What else can be expected from the state that is the most ridiculous and adamant about Creationism laughably being considered a fact/science ?
September 9th, 2008 at 10:20 pmWho says Republicans don’t have a sense of humor?
September 9th, 2008 at 10:48 pmbob hussein lablah Says:
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Who says Republicans don’t have a sense of humor?
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Ummmm
Everyone who’s actually funny ……………
September 9th, 2008 at 11:02 pmInformed Americans have been laughing till they are crying…..unfortunately.
The lemming lockstep brownshirt neanderturd fascists…not so much, they hate America anyway, so why should they care.
September 9th, 2008 at 11:18 pmYeah — “intelligence failure”…the repukes “intelligence” failed them once again and they figure we’ll just keep drinking the koolaid they are pouring.
September 9th, 2008 at 11:23 pmIsn’t there some sort of 2nd or 3rd phase of some intelligence investigation or something unfinished? Pat?
This guy is one of the a#1 doofuses in the Senate. He has his hand all the way up George’s @ss.
September 9th, 2008 at 11:36 pmHere’s how timely Roberts released the data. I guess it took him two years to “realize” they got the intelligence wrong.
The truth is, Roberts stonewalled requests to release Phase II.
Almost two years after finishing of Phase I investigation, on April 5, 2006, Senator Roberts released the Committee’s schedule for completion of Phase II [4]. Senator Roberts said, “Today members of the Committee were provided three draft reports of the Phase II inquiry including: postwar findings about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs and links to terrorism and how they compare with prewar assessments, the use by the Intelligence Community of information provided by the Iraqi National Congress (INC), and prewar intelligence assessments about postwar Iraq.
From Wikipedia
September 9th, 2008 at 11:40 pmOff Topic: Our broken media.
What happens when someone correctly identifies the lies which are being argued, and points out how stupid it is to argue about a lie? Our unflappable “host” proclaims that said lie will be argued about until the election.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/09/paul-begala-rips-msm-republican-operative-for-flat-out-lying-about-palins-record/
September 9th, 2008 at 11:50 pmThe “entire world” was not repeating this lie in 2002 — “”Iraq has sent bomb-making and document-forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training.” — George W. Bush in 2002
The truth? In Feb. 2003, British intelligence said Saddam had no ties to al-Qaeda. The BBC reported: “There are no current links between the Iraqi regime and the al-Qaeda network, according to an official British intelligence report seen by BBC News.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2727471.stm
September 10th, 2008 at 12:11 amThis is a documentary that changed the way I look at politics in this country. Originally broadcast in 2005, in 3 segments.
“In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares. The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares… At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neo-conservatives and the radical Islamists…”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm
September 10th, 2008 at 12:23 amBetter link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1WkmioQvA
September 10th, 2008 at 12:40 amOk, one more time. Guess I should have clicked links first. This one works:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
September 10th, 2008 at 12:45 am.
For Patsy Roberts(R), his Phase II should be his ticket out of D.C.
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September 10th, 2008 at 12:50 am.
What world has Patsy Roberts(R) been living in, anyway?
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September 10th, 2008 at 12:51 amWe all know what has transpired now all we need to do is throw the hole lot of these neocons into jail.They all believe in the “Noble Lie” so bad they wouldn`t know the the truth if it was right in front of them.The Shrub and his crime family wanted a quick and easy war and it turned into a nightmare of an occupation for them.Our soldiers have suffered long enough and their families have gone through way to much.God Bless every soldier who has suffered and the ones who won`t make back.
September 10th, 2008 at 12:51 amBBC’s “The Power of Nightmares” (3 discs) can be rented from Netflix.
September 10th, 2008 at 12:58 am.
Guilty men ALWAYS go down in a fight to preserve what tarnished image they can retain.
Noble honest men have nothing to fight to defend as their honesty defends itself.
Which is Patsy Roberts(R)…?
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September 10th, 2008 at 1:05 amIt’s about time. All repugs should be laughed right into jail.
Wait until the debates – mcchimpy will be laughed back to his meal ticket and plain back into her dysfunctional family.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:18 amAnother good link for Power of Nightmares:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/nmares.html
September 10th, 2008 at 1:37 amThanks Keith and corsair. I wish more people would take the time to view it.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:47 am.
Sorry OT
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Rep._McDermott_signs_onto_impeach_impeachment_0909.html
Why won’t TP press the issue of impeachment?
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September 10th, 2008 at 5:12 amThe Bush administration and it’s minions wriggle in the light their exposed lies. Naturally, guffaws break out as they sputter with explanations. The sobering fact is that so people died and continue to do so because of the twisted ambitions of the right wing.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:29 amGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Knight Ridder got it right. Knight Ridder is now Mclatchey.
September 10th, 2008 at 7:32 am
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Phil Donahue got it right. Phil Donahue is now unemployed.
September 10th, 2008 at 7:37 amPat would realize how often people laugh when he speaks if he’d stop speaking to his sheeple and confronted REAL Americans.
September 10th, 2008 at 8:16 amAs flex points out nicely in #3,
September 10th, 2008 at 8:31 amUsing Intelligence is akin to performing science. Use the facs that fit your theory, and if the most facts fit then the theory is most likely true.
And, THAT is why the whole IRAQ thing failed. They pieced together convenient facts to fit this most heinous theory, and expected the rest of the FACTS to continue to fit into this meme. And of course the facts did not.
It all goes with the administration having no clue about science. They cannot even fathom how science is supposed to work, that is why they continue to piece together the few “facts” about global warming that persist, against the overwhelming tidal wave of other facts. They WANT, with all their little mite, to have the information go their way.
Facts will always bury you.
Jim Wolf359 Says:
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Just out of curiosity, what are Slattery’s chances against this clown?
Aug. 20 SurveyUSA poll has Roberts leading Slattery 58%-31%.
What’s wrong with Kansas?
September 10th, 2008 at 9:45 amPat robinson’s are just what is wrong with America. Vote him out!
September 10th, 2008 at 11:15 am