At troop deployment ceremony, Palin links 9/11 to Iraq.
By on Sep 11th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
At troop deployment ceremony, Palin links 9/11 to Iraq.
Earlier today, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin linked the Iraq war to the attacks of September 11, 2001, “telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would ‘defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.’” “America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11, 2001,” said Palin at the deployment ceremony. Watch it:
As the Washington Post’s Anne Kornblut points out, “The idea that Iraq shared responsibility with al-Qaeda for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself.”
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Linking Iraq with 9/11 is an official zombie meme. That it is demonstrably false means nothing. They are just going to keep repeating it eternally. There is no way to put a stake through its heart, it is undead
September 11th, 2008 at 11:46 pmYep, she’s a dumb f uck.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:46 pmOnce again, there’s a flip side to this story. Those “enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans”, have in fact gotten away with it scot-free. Turns out they happen to be George W. Bush’s bestest oil buddies in the Middle East:
http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
Given that her sole source of expertise on foreign policy is “energy”, as John McCain proclaimed today, I’d love to hear Palin try to explain that to her son.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:50 pmI think she linked 9/11 to “Al Qaeda in Iraq”.
Not very smart either, but it’s not the same as linking Saddam’s Iraq to 9/11.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:50 pmIn other words, she LIED. Go on, TP. Go ahead and say it.
Gov Palin Lies About 9/11-Iraq Link.
It’s not partisan politics, it’s the truth.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pmSven Ortmann Says:
I think she linked 9/11 to “Al Qaeda in Iraq”.
Not very smart either, but it’s not the same as linking Saddam’s Iraq to 9/11.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Then she’d still be wrong (LYING), since al Qaeda was not in Iraq on 9/11/01.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:55 pmthanks to charlie gibson
we now know that palin has a
somewhat limited foreign
policy expertise.
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dorothy lucey would
make a better vice-president.
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and she’s an idiot.
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September 11th, 2008 at 11:56 pmShotgun, hyper-competitive, tied Iraq to 9-11…she’s Dick Cheney!
September 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pmsure she may have limited policy expertise, but she is spunky and has hutz-pah (how is that spelled) and isn’t that what really matters?????
September 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pmLooks like Sarah Plain & Dumb has been holed up in Dick Cheney’s bunker the past week getting schooled by one of the most prolific liars that ever was. And it appears she has learned her lessons well.
Just saying . . .
September 12th, 2008 at 12:04 am#9 dbadass, That’s what my 72 year old neighbor said..”She’s cute so I went down and registered to vote for the first time in 20 year’s”…..There should be some kind of test for people with dementia to take like driving before they are allowed to vote…Ugh….Blessings
September 12th, 2008 at 12:05 amPalin’s the very image of a store-bought candidate. She will say anything the customer wishes, and embrace multiple contradictions on command.
A political waste-pit.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:09 amShe is strickly sticking to those RNC talking points no matter what Bush admits to.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:11 amHey Sven, I believe you’re putting lipstick on a pig.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:17 amHey Sarah, was 911 connected to the disappearance of dinosaurs 4 thousand years ago?
September 12th, 2008 at 12:17 am…telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would ‘defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.’
And mediate a religious civil war…
I’ll bet her son’s fellow soldiers just loved being used as her political props…
September 12th, 2008 at 12:19 amdbadass Says:
Close enough Chutzpah you had the spelling done phonetically.
And yes she does indeed have a lot of it, along with a strong sense of secrecy. She is perfect for the VP slot the way Cheney has made it.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:23 amWitch1 Says:
#9 dbadass, That’s what my 72 year old neighbor said..”She’s cute so I went down and registered to vote for the first time in 20 year’s”…..There should be some kind of test for people with dementia to take like driving before they are allowed to vote…Ugh….Blessings
September 12th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Odd double standard. If you’re demented, you can’t drive because your driving might harm someone in your local community. But if you’re demented, you can still vote even though your vote might harm the nation (or the world).
September 12th, 2008 at 12:26 amShe’s new. She didn’t get the memo. It’s the economy stupid!!
September 12th, 2008 at 12:26 amThe crowd didn’t seem particularly receptive. And she really doesn’t even seem to understand what going to war means.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:28 amNobody told her that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?
Oh, they told her to spout the party line…Right.
Ministry of Truth, at your disservice.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:29 amI grew up in a hyper religious home. I hear the same religious speak and tone I had to endure growing up. It creeps me out when she uses the term ‘Lord’ (”We pray the Lord will bless you”). Yikes, so much for Separation of Church and State. Yikes, that’s scary. Does she know not everyone in the US is Christian?
September 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amI’ve come to the conclusion that the more Sarah Palin the better…for Barack Obama.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:36 amthanks Krazny. Now that I see it I remember but I couldn’t pull it together as I don’t use it much and when I do it is verbal and not written.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:37 am“America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11, 2001,” said Palin
That’s right. Now we have our very own, brand new Post 9/11 False Sense of Security.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:37 amIraq? 9/11? What? I thought it was Mexicans…you know 9-Juan-Juan. Isn’t that why we’re building that fence along the border?
Since Palin knows Russia so well, living so close and all, why doesn’t she just build a fence between Russia and Alaska? After all, good fences make good neighbors….
September 12th, 2008 at 12:40 amPalin, our little Tyrant of the Tundra, digs Mr. Saakashvili, the President of the Republic of Georgia, who recently ordered the intentional slaughter of hundreds of South Ossetians with his shelling, bombing and tank invasion in early August.
Saakashvili has become quite a little tyrant in the last two years: having his police beat up and jailed demonstrators, shutting down opposition newspapers, radio stations and television stations, and even declaring martial law.
Palin is insane for endless wars of U. S. aggression the world over. Even more bellicose than McWar…
September 12th, 2008 at 12:51 am“Then she’d still be wrong (LYING), since al Qaeda was not in Iraq on 9/11/01.”
And the speech wasn’t done in 09/11/08, but TODAY.
TODAY, there’s still a AQ detachment in Iraq.
Her speech was apparently badly misleading, but she did not explicitly link the 9/11 terror to Saddam’s Iraq with that quote.
Seriously; the Republicans tell a lot of nonsense, but copying that just 180° around is not better. Some reports and many comments here are too extreme and misinterpret only to get the worst possible result.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:51 amIt’s good to stick a microphone in her face and not have a ranking McCain campaign worker in sight. People who need style always lose the substance argument. Always!
September 12th, 2008 at 12:56 amThis woman is a menace and an embarrassment. She is worse than Bush. Hasn’t America had enough of this silly shite?
September 12th, 2008 at 12:57 amIs it true that her son joined the military to get out of having to serve jail time?
September 12th, 2008 at 1:00 amSo, the military allowed her to make a speech and she promised not to make it political.
Sarah Barracuda lies once again.
September 12th, 2008 at 1:02 amGOP sentator calls Palin a “cocky wacko”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ 2008/ 09/ 11/ former-gop-senator-calls-palin-a-%e2%80%98cocky-wacko%e2%80%99/
spread that link around folks
September 12th, 2008 at 1:09 amYou know what the difference is between george bush and sarah palin? Lipstick
September 12th, 2008 at 1:12 amEugeneDebs Says: #1
Unless someone that finally grows a pair implicates Dick(head) Cheney and the rest of the PNAC criminal cabal in the 9-11 events. I’m sorry, but no one is ever going to convince me that 19 or 20 losers from mainly Saudi Arabia could evade detection in this country or apprehension for raising several red flags by trying to learn to fly jumbo jets without learning how to take off or land. They couldn’t barely fly single engine Cessna’s. Several FBI agents tried to report them, but were subsequently squashed. The “terrorists” allegedly foiled and eluded every intelligence agency, every investigative agency, every check and balance and somehow arranged for NORAD to stand down. They allegedly flew these jets with world class precision especially the one making the impossible turn into the Pentagon. And then the Bush Administration has the audacity to claim they had no idea what was going on. Anyone that buys that lemon is a fool. I only use lemons for lemonade.
The day the powers that be finally realise that they can make just as much money from science, technology and innovation instead of fear, death and destruction will be the day we finally become human beings worthy of our place on this planet.
September 12th, 2008 at 1:16 amShe was John McCain’s gimmick and it just ain’t gonna work. They had to let her out eventually and the whole world will find out how dumb she really is. Can’t wait for the debates. She’s a loose cannon.
September 12th, 2008 at 1:22 amThe neocons well planned agenda:
Complain incessantly about big government. Purpose is actually to privatize and deregulate every aspect of corporate activities.
Buy as many media outlets as possible to control the content of information (propaganda).
Get rid of the Fairness Doctrine. Critical to facilitate the flow of endless propaganda.
Recruit and implement future plans through bribery and intimidation.
Begin staging false flag events culminating with September 11, 2001.
Promote fear to justify bloating defense budget and removing our freedoms and liberties.
Ruin economy through more deregulation; questionable lending practices, speculators setting gas prices with market manipulation and virtually no oversight, etc.
I could go on and on and on. But, I’ll just ask, is this any to run a country? Is this all we are, just little playthings to be subserviant to the rich and powerful? We are capable of so much yet we still roll over for these self-serving, powermad whackos. And now, today, the republicans are all cooing over Sarah Palin. Just how low can we possibly go?
September 12th, 2008 at 1:36 amWhat a stupid heffer! The Al-Qaida run by a Sunni reiligious zealot from Saudi Arabia contracts some of his buddies from Saudi Arabia with funding from friends in the UAE and Saudi Arabia to crash planes into buildings. I didn’t see Iraq anywhere in that list. So, how are we defending America from the threat of terrorism again? By creating more terrorists? By strategic blunder after strategic blunder that has increased terrorist attacks around the world 600% since 2001? GO BACK TO THE BEAUTY PAGENTS MORON!!!!!
September 12th, 2008 at 2:13 amWe have yet to experience the horrors of post WWII Germany and the revelation that we have allowed concentration camps and genocide in our own backyard.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:47 amChocolate Jesus Says:
Is it true that her son joined the military to get out of having to serve jail time?
Yes. But, for some reason the MSM is not interested in this story.
Track Palin Involved in Vandalism Rampage - Real Reason for Army Enlistment?
September 12th, 2008 at 2:49 am.
Try as these neoCONned-artists can, they’re actually suggesting that reality means nothing to them.
.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:52 ammdbyrne - we elected a C student - twice.
McCain boasts about being lower than that and the audience adores him. Now we get Miss Alaska - runner-up, who stands a 1 out of 3 chance to become President, based on actuarial tables.
Versus
a Constitutional Law Professor.
If the American Public goes for Mr. “I barely passed” over the Law Professor, we deserve everything we get.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:52 am“America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11, 2001
Why not? You have. I have a better chance at getting struck by lightning than being killed by a terrorist.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:07 amOddly enough, ThinkProgress omits the last part of the paragraph in Anne Kornblut’s desperate smear.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:08 amImmigration2008DotCom Says:
___________
Actually, it’s not a smear attempt.
However, what you just did is, and the article you linked to does the same…
Kinda bizarre… you trolls are always doing exactly what you claim others are guilty of.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:43 amYou can put lipstick on Sarah Palin, but it’s still Sarah Palin.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:54 amOT I saw this over at FDL regarding Sarah’s interview:
“The woman doesn’t even know enough to know she doesn’t know enough.”
http://firedoglake.com/ 2008/ 09/ 11/ sarah-palins-embarrassing-interview-and-what-it-says-about-mccain/
Obviously McCain/Palin is the best tick…look at my foolproof argument below:
“Fear, Fear, Terrorist, 9/11, fear, FEAR, POW, 9/11, Terror, 9/11, FEAR, POW”
September 12th, 2008 at 4:58 amThe line that gets me is,
So… regardless of any “success” in the “war on terror”, America can never feel secure again.
Well, that ought to ensure a Permanent Republican Majority.
Whore More Fears!!!
September 12th, 2008 at 6:11 amShe’s self destructing before our eyes.
September 12th, 2008 at 6:21 amTechnically although she mentioned 9/11 the next sentence and said “planned and carried out” and “Americans” not “American soldiers” which implies a specific attack in the past against civilian Americans, I guess its possible to spin this that she meant the thousands of Americans killed in Iraq since 2003
But maybe the McCain campaign has no need for spin anymore? They seem happy to just lie and rewrite history and then make up some phony Obama controversy to distract everyones attention away from the truth
September 12th, 2008 at 6:23 amSo Miss Piggy keeps spewing more and more of the repug talking points — even the ones that have been rejected by BushCo itself? Maybe her handlers on the McSame campaign tried to program the microchip in her head with new talking points, but all she kept saying was “thanks, but no thanks”.
Matt Damon had it right — this has become nothing but a really bad Disney film…
September 12th, 2008 at 6:42 amPALIN :”America can never go back to that false sense of Security that came before September 11,2001″.
Does that include Bush’s presidency of over nine months starting Jan. 2001?
September 12th, 2008 at 7:11 amBriseadh na Faire Says:
We have yet to experience the horrors of post WWII Germany and the revelation that we have allowed concentration camps and genocide in our own backyard.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:47 am
________
Well, not in our own backyard, anyhow.
September 12th, 2008 at 7:28 am“America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11, 2001,” said Palin at the deployment ceremony.
Then-and-Still-President Bush’s predecessor warned him and his administration fervently about the threat posed by bin Laden and his organization. He was even warned five weeks before the 9/11 attacks that something might happen soon. If anyone on the planet had a misplaced “false sens of security”, it was George W. Bush.
September 12th, 2008 at 7:43 amUmmm, if we were to, say, just rein in a bit our enthusiastic worship of all things Israeli, just a little bit, that might go a long way toward having millions of Muslims hate our guts…
September 12th, 2008 at 7:46 amThat’s what we need–another ignoramus in the White House.
September 12th, 2008 at 7:57 am9/11: Distinguishing The Propaganda From The Smoking Guns
September 12th, 2008 at 7:58 amWhat with the campaigns of 2004, 2006 and now 2008, I’m prepared to demand that the Oxford English Dictionary or whoever it is that’s in charge of the English language create a new term to cover the ONLY method of argumentation Republicans have at their disposal, the Regurgitatum ad WTC.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:10 amThe best was Newt, the lizard king, on the Today show. Matt asked him was the selection of Palin a Political one, strategic one, or a choice based on qualifications: and Newt (the lizard king) says “Both”, “Since she was picked, she is qualified.” FLAWLESS Neo-con logic.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:41 amhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/ id/ 21134540/ vp/ 18424824#26672327
Sorry, it starts at the 04:45 mark
September 12th, 2008 at 8:43 amSven Ortmann Says:
“Then she’d still be wrong (LYING), since al Qaeda was not in Iraq on 9/11/01.”
And the speech wasn’t done in 09/11/08, but TODAY.
TODAY, there’s still a AQ detachment in Iraq.
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NO AQ Iraq is NOT Al Queda it is a home grown group using an AQ alliance but they are NOT Ben Ladens AQ. SHE WAS FLAT OUT WRONG. IT is propaganda trying to link Iraq to 9/11 because all the REAL reasons for the invasion have been shown to be BS.
Her speech was apparently badly misleading, but she did not explicitly link the 9/11 terror to Saddam’s Iraq with that quote.
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And some people will bend over backwards to give the benifit of the doubt to those who havent EARNED that. She repeated the old zombie meme.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:44 amsatirev Says:
From this point forward, the only reference I shall make to Governor Palin is: DOA.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:14 am
I just refer to her as Lady McPalin. :)
September 12th, 2008 at 8:57 amSatirev,
The “moniker” is also the name of the song parody I wrote about her. (See link under her name. :) )
September 12th, 2008 at 9:03 amNobody Wants a Charlie in the Box….
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 am’cause
All the kids want the Sara Palin Action Figure Doll!
Thanks, satirev. And keep up the good work. I do not believe that the race is as close as the media says it is, because I believe that the entire premise of their using statistics the way they do is flawed. To believe that almost half this country thinks that McCain is the answer to our problems is to believe that we truly are a nation of stupid, ignorant rubes.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amWho’s stupid? After checking out this blog for several months I’ve come to the conclusion that its denizens are the stupidest a**holes in the world in the world.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:55 amNot only is she lying about Iraq/911 but her son who at every opportunity she says “chose” to serve is a lie also. He committed crimes and was given the option of jail or the army.
She should not be allowed to use her son’s jail option as a way of implying that her family volunteered to serve our country……if she is going to use it then it should be used against her.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:05 am“NO AQ Iraq is NOT Al Queda it is a home grown group using an AQ alliance but they are NOT Ben Ladens AQ. SHE WAS FLAT OUT WRONG. IT is propaganda trying to link Iraq to 9/11 because all the REAL reasons for the invasion have been shown to be BS.”
The foot soldiers of AQ Iraq are new, but the leadership of AQ Iraq was already in AQ in 2001. The same pattern is true for the whole AQ today, including whatever of AQ is today in Pakistan.
And of course was the entire Iraq war BS, the ‘reasons’ weren’t reasons at all, even before they were exposed as lies.
That doesn’t change the fact that she had a misleading instead of flat-out wrong speech.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amFolks, I am now convinced that we have all been gamed; With the comment about 9/11(tm), it is proven that Sarah is really Julie-ani, and does he ever love the wig and wardrobe!!!!!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am“The idea that Iraq shared responsibility with al-Qaeda for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself.”
Sounds like Palin will be an excellent successor to the Vice President, Cheney didn’t let facts get in his way either.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
September 12th, 2008 at 11:08 am#40
“Yes. But, for some reason the MSM is not interested in this story.”
http://sarahpalinexposed.com/?p=517
“A progressive Alaska radio station (Newstalk 1080 Kudo) reported on September 2, 2008 that the 16-year-old boy in the story was actually Track Palin. The station cited an unnamed judicial source. A recording of the radio broadcast is not yet available.”
This constitutes proof? What some no name radio station said eventhough they cite an unnamed judicial source?
Please get some evidence first, otherwise you are just spreading rumors/lies.
September 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am“telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would ‘defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.’”
I didn’t realize that AQI no longer existed.
September 12th, 2008 at 11:49 am“He committed crimes and was given the option of jail or the army.”
Evidence? What some talk show host said on the radio doesn’t constitute any.
September 12th, 2008 at 11:54 amhas since been rejected even by the president himself.”
Whether linking 9/11 to Iraq or Al Q in Iraq, does this mean that Paliin is even more ignorant than the current administration ?
September 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amSo Tracy,
You are denying that Saracudda was tying 9/11 to AQI? If so, they weren’t even in existence when 9/11/01 happened, numb-nutz!
Or maybe you are agreeing that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Either way, you have proven your Repug typical approach to the world; “ignore facts, they just get in the way of my blind beliefs”.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pmDoes she read or know anything about the Iraq war? This is very concerning.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:22 pm#83
“You are denying that Saracudda was tying 9/11 to AQI?”
No. AQI is NOT the same as the insurgents/armed militias in Iraq like al Sadar’s.
If so, they weren’t even in existence when 9/11/01 happened, numb-nutz!”
If you haven’t noticed the date today is 9/12/08. AQI is still active in Iraq. BTW I consider AQI and those like bin Laden and KSM are all part of the same organization…at least al Zarqawi the father of AQI told his followers they were.
This quote TP put up is particularly pathetic in trying to make it look like Palin was trying to link Iraq to 9/11.
“The idea that Iraq shared responsibility with al-Qaeda for the attacks on the World Trade Center…”
Again AQI is NOT the same as the insurgents/armed militias in Iraq.
September 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pm“Or maybe you are agreeing that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.”
Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. TP however is trying to make it look like Palin was trying to link al Qaeda and Saddam for 9/11. The story they provide by Anne Kornblut is a false charge anyway because even in the quote she doesn’t say anything about AQI, which is what Palin was referring to.
September 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pmTracy,
It she wasn’t linking the Iraq invasion and occupation to 9/11/01, Why TF did she bring it up?
Remember, she is the one that said this was a ‘war we were fighting for god’.
I find your defense of this unprepared, globally illiterate and lying person quite telling of your lack of respect for this country and the office of POTUS.
September 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pm“It she wasn’t linking the Iraq invasion and occupation to 9/11/01, Why TF did she bring it up?”
She was reminding people that we are still fighting al Qaeda in Iraq. It’s not worth mentioning anymore that eventhough much of the violence in Iraq is down al Qaeda still operates in Iraq and al Qaeda is probably still plotting another 9/11?
Remember, she is the one that said this was a ‘war we were fighting for god’.”
I am glad you brought that up because President JFK kinda said the same think when he was president…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ suzanne-omalley/ what-do-jfk-and-huckabee-_b_85543.html
“For the record, the second sentence in JFK’s Inaugural is: “For I have sworn before you and Almighty God the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago.” Kennedy mentions God three times in his brief speech and ends by telling Americans “here on earth God’s work must be truly our own.”
Or President FDR….
http://www.americanthinker.com/ 2007/ 05/ rediscovering_god_in_america.html
September 12th, 2008 at 2:17 pmIf you want to hear JFK mentioning God….
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkinaugural.htm
September 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pmTracy,
AQI was never, and is not now planning an attack on the US, they are just trying to get the illegal occupiers out of the country.
And the Palin “god” comment was about her referring to the Iraq invasion as “god’s work”. Kennedy’s was not about god supporting an illegal war. BIG difference, but then you wouldn’t understand, as you are still too full of the Repug NeoCon Kool-aid to see the truth.
September 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pmHere is part 2…JFK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s6U8GActdQ
September 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm“AQI was never, and is not now planning an attack on the US, they are just trying to get the illegal occupiers out of the country.”
You think that AQI are “freedom fighters”? That’s funny. As if their cause is noble. AQI is trying to get the U.S. out of Iraq so they can take it over and establish a new base of operations by establishing an Islamic caliphate.
“Kennedy’s was not about god supporting an illegal war.”
That is your OPINION about Iraq being an illegal war.
JFK mentioned in his speech that the entire Western hemisphere will be under the guarded watch of the U.S….
“Let all our neighbors know that we shall join with them to oppose aggression or subversion anywhere in the Americas. And let every other power know that this hemisphere intends to remain the master of its own house.”
…so no matter what kind of coup is going on in say Central America the U.S. will intervene to up hold it’s national interests including the squashing of communist aggression and/or subversion.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:08 pmTracy__5 says:
That is your OPINION about Iraq being an illegal war.
Yea, mine and about 80% of the rest of the world.
Give it up, no one but a few of the 23%ers can still support this entire clusterfcuk.
Go back to Redstate where someone might actually agree with you.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pm“Yea, mine and about 80% of the rest of the world.”
As if the rest of the world is responsible for the security of the U.S.?
Go back to Redstate where someone might actually agree with you.”
I am not here to get you approval boy.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:28 pmI find it interesting the eventhough JFK said that no matter what is going on in the Western Hemisphere, the U.S. will supress any “aggression or subversion”. Sounds like to me that he had no problem going into other countries where U.S. interests were being threatened.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:30 pmlast I checked, Iraq wasn’t in the Western Hemisphere, boy.
But being a Repug, like with Sarahcuda, knowledge of Geography isn’t a requirement to be POTUS.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm“last I checked, Iraq wasn’t in the Western Hemisphere, boy.”
Why does the geographic location of Iraq have anything to do with JFK advocating stopping aggression and/or subversion? Are you suggesting that JFK would only do something if and only if it happened in the Western Hemisphere? I seem to notice that Vietnam isn’t in the Western Hemisphere.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pmGee tracy then you must agree that it’s the right thing to :
September 12th, 2008 at 4:37 pmhave attempted to overthrow Chavez in venezuala, a democratically elected leader ,
create a civil war in Bolivia ,
and go all out to influence elections in el salvador’s last elections which has been recently admitted to .
Your assuming on top of that that a democratic presidency from 40 years ago reflects the opinions of the bloggers here .
The US would never stand for the subversion of it’s democracy or foreign influence in it’s elections and as Pat Buchanan pointed out recently about our actions in georgia , we probably wouldn’t be to pleased if the Russians were conducting War exercises with the Mexicans on our border or allowing a missle system to be erected in Canada .
WHat does JFK have to do with anything Tracy ? He’s been dead for 40 years plus . Black and white democrat/ republican , may make the world seem less complicated for U but it doesn’t make for a very accurate inquiry into present day affairs .
September 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pmMost of the 3rd world is living without running water or adequate food , in tin shacks !
September 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pm911 1973 is the day the US government overthrew the government of Chile which caused the deaths of 30 000 innocent people whose greatest crime was believing in democracy as a vehicle for change , inorder to improve their lives .
Silly them .
“Your assuming on top of that that a democratic presidency from 40 years ago reflects the opinions of the bloggers here.”
Well I can see that it doesn’t reflect yours. That’s OK.
“…have attempted to overthrow Chavez in venezuala, a democratically elected leader”
If Chaves was in support of Democratic principles I wouldn’t have a problem with him…but his isn’t…he is a dictator.
“…create a civil war in Bolivia”
But it’s OK for Chaves to attempt to spread his brand of communism and supression of free markets in Bolivia but the U.S. has no right to support the opposition?
September 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pmTracy,
Your bringing up Vietnam, another clustrfcuk of an immoral and needless war is par for your course.
Vietnam never attacked us and neither did Iraq, so get over it and accept that your butt-hole bodies, Dubya and Darth, were wrong, but they did have to defend the NeoCon States of Amerrika, right?
Are you this brainwashed or are you this stoo-pid?
September 12th, 2008 at 4:55 pmThey lied before about 9/11 and Iraq conction and continue to do so now. Liers. The victmis of 9/11 deserve the Truth! Also the victimis of another 9/11 deserve respect and the truth. That is 9/11/73, when the US supported and financed a brutal and criminal military coup which killed thousands and installed the animal Pinochet in power. Allende was an democraticly elected president which the US didn’t want, so they took him out. It has to be remembered because today, as we speak, the criminal government of the USA is conspiring and attempting in doing the same with Evo Moales. A democraticly elected president of Bolivia. North America’s embassador to Bolivia has been expeled from Bolivia for conspiring against its legitimate government.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:56 pmSorry I misstyped Evo Morales above… Viva Evo Morales!
September 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm“WHat does JFK have to do with anything Tracy ?”
His vision and support of spreading TRUE Democracy and freemarkets is just as important today as it was back then. Remember communism, which is basically what Chaves tries to peddle in Central and South America, isn’t freedom or democracy.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pmsacopenada,
We are wasting our time with tracy, it has its mind made up and facts will NEVER get in the way!
September 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“Most of the 3rd world is living without running water or adequate food , in tin shacks !”
Thank to dictators like Chaves who surpress their own people.
“..is the day the US government overthrew the government of Chile which caused the deaths of 30 000 innocent people whose greatest crime was believing in democracy as a vehicle for change , inorder to improve their lives .”
What is the economic status of Chile today?…compared to other countries in Central and South America?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:02 pm“Your bringing up Vietnam, another clustrfcuk of an immoral and needless war is par for your course….”
I was just stating that Vietnam was Kennedy’s war…and others. According to your logic the Cold War was another “needless war” because it was really none of our business that the Soviets wanted to expand their empire and their influence around the world.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pm“We are wasting our time with tracy, it has its mind made up and facts will NEVER get in the way!”
What “facts” have you presented? All you have presented is your opinion(s).
September 12th, 2008 at 5:09 pm“Sorry I misstyped Evo Morales above… Viva Evo Morales!”
So you are support of a supplier of coca to rest of the world?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:15 pmWhere are YOUR facts that Iraq was involved in 9/11? All we have are you opinions.
And Vietnam started under Eisenhower, and I was in that war and, trust me, it was an unneeded and immoral war, just like Dubya’s ego war in Iraq.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pmTracy Chavez is a dictator ? Funny he lives in a country where the news media and TV attacks him endlessly on prime time and yet there has been no attempt to quell it !
September 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pmThe Columbian cartels control cocaine but then of course you knew that .
The US would never stand for the actions we have taken in south and central america if they were done in our own country and for good reason ! They are immoral !
Oh and lastly , it is obvious to me that your arguments are either disingenuous or you are seriously mis informed . I’d place my money on the former.
The status of chile today is dirt poor largely ,except for a few lighter skinned families with the right names . Other than perhaps parts of Santiago ( los condes) most citizens can only get a hot shower if they time it perfectly because their on demand water heaters don’t cope well with the changes in water pressure during periods of demand , that is when there is water pressure .
September 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pmMost people there are very poor and by the way every dictator in central and south america was helped into power and aided by the CIA , much as Saddam Hussein was the expence of their people ,inorder to provide “American corporations cheap labor and resources .
You don’t get around much do you .
The elections in el salvador coming up could mean that the US has only the drugged out columbian military to play ball with in south america .
September 12th, 2008 at 5:52 pmDemocracy for all without foreign influence of elections !
Tracy__5 Says:
“..is the day the US government overthrew the government of Chile which caused the deaths of 30 000 innocent people whose greatest crime was believing in democracy as a vehicle for change , inorder to improve their lives .”
Couldn’t bring yourself to repeat the date we overthrew the democratically elected government of Chile ?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1q3NkGvzPM
September 12th, 2008 at 6:43 pm“And Vietnam started under Eisenhower, and I was in that war and, trust me, it was an unneeded and immoral war, just like Dubya’s ego war in Iraq.”
And considering you think that “Kennedy’s was not about god supporting an illegal war.” then why did he continue an “illegal” war? Or was Vietnam “legal” and Iraq “illegal”?
September 13th, 2008 at 12:39 pmFunny he lives in a country where the news media and TV attacks him endlessly on prime time and yet there has been no attempt to quell it !
Now this is funny, i.e. you utter ignorance of current events.
http://www.usatoday.com/ news/ world/ 2007-05-28-venezuela-tv-protest_N.htm
“Oh and lastly , it is obvious to me that your arguments are either disingenuous or you are seriously mis informed”
As for you knowing very little about Chaves and his communist garbage here is one more for your limited education…
http://wasteofmyoxygen.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 12/ 03/ venezuelans-shutdown-chavez-bid-for-absolute-power/
…I just wonder if he will go quietly when his term ends.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:49 pmThe status of chile today is dirt poor largely ,except for a few lighter skinned families with the right names .”
The facts tend to disagree with your socialist propaganda…
Chilie..
https://www.cia.gov/ library/ publications/ the-world-factbook/ geos/ ci.html
“Population below poverty line: 18.2% (2005)”
You want to see the effects of Chaves’s socialist policies…
https://www.cia.gov/ library/ publications/ the-world-factbook/ geos/ ve.html
“Population below poverty line: 37.9% (end 2005 est.)”
September 13th, 2008 at 1:03 pmTracy Tracy Tracy… I’m not going to argue with you because your level of ignorance is to high. I’m not going to waist my time with people who don’t know history and does not atempt to do so. You are on the level of the “American Idol”… and I’m not sorry that I can’t share with you what I can share with good American citzen in this blog, who have known what the United States of America government has done in Cetral and South America. Go back to your FOX news…
September 13th, 2008 at 1:30 pm“…and I’m not sorry that I can’t share with you what I can share with good American citzen in this blog”
I don’t have the time to argue with a propagandist for the dictators of Central and South America. You see historical events from the leftist point of view and you conveniently disregard what has been proven to be a failed system, i.e. government controlled and run economies. Go back to your failed Chaves enclave and those who don’t seem to know what socialism/communism leads to which is dictators and despots.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:08 pmSven Ortmann Says:
September 13th, 2008 at 10:42 pmYou are WRONG and you have no idea what you are talking about. In 2001 the NIE listed 60 countries that AQ was active in. LET ME REPEAT SIXTY COUNTRIES. Iraq WAS NOT ON THAT LIST. So the people who planned 9/11 were NOT in Iraq in 01. She was definitly trying to link Iraq and 9/11 spin all you want to appologize for this dishonest meme we all know what was being said and it has been debunked a thousand times. INCLUDING by the 9/11 commission
Tracy__5 Says:
I didn’t realize that AQI no longer existed.
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Medium sized libraries could be filled exclusively with things YOU DONT KNOW. Apparantly including who AQ Iraq IS. They are a successor group to Zarqawi’s jihad group. They ARE terrorists, they SHOULD be hunted down what they ARENT is in any way the people that planned 9/11. They ALLIED themselves WITH them in 04 but they are NOT them, never have been and despite ALL efforts at your rightwing propaganda they NEVER WILL BE.
September 13th, 2008 at 10:48 pm