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	<title>Comments on: Media Dismiss Palin&#8217;s Ignorance Of The Bush Doctrine Because &#8216;Many Americans&#8217; Don&#8217;t Know What It Is</title>
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		<title>By: Jackie Morgan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5226778</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may have inadvertently hit upon the problem: Our media doesn&#039;t  know what the Bush Doctrine is, and if they don&#039;t know, how can they inform the viewing public?

I absolutely love Juan Williams&#039;s comment.  It seems obvious that he and the rest of the on air personalities had been spun by the McCain camp before going on the air with the &quot;freshly pulled from the ass&quot;-line that &quot;the American people don&#039;t know what the Bush Doctrine is&quot;.  They were probably urged to personalize it, with the McCain campaign telling these reporters, &quot;I didn&#039;t know what the Bush Doctrine was; Did you know?&quot;  

Juan Williams&#039;s ego, however, wouldn&#039;t let him do that.  He had to add the only circumstance he could think of in which he wouldn&#039;t know what the Bush Doctrine is: &quot;if you ask me in the middle of the night, I would have been: &#039;What? What?&#039;&quot;  If awakened from deep sleep in the middle of the night, that would be the only way that Juan Williams wouldn&#039;t have known right off the bat what the Bush Doctrine is.  

The problem is, however, Sarah Palin wasn&#039;t asleep.  She may have been daydreaming about what color carpeting to have installed in the VP&#039;s offices in the Old Executive Office Building, or selling Air Force Two on Craigslist (or how to get a per diem for the kids), but she definitely wasn&#039;t asleep.

If the media is saying the American people don&#039;t know what the Bush Doctrine is, then it&#039;s the media who is elitest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have inadvertently hit upon the problem: Our media doesn&#8217;t  know what the Bush Doctrine is, and if they don&#8217;t know, how can they inform the viewing public?</p>
<p>I absolutely love Juan Williams&#8217;s comment.  It seems obvious that he and the rest of the on air personalities had been spun by the McCain camp before going on the air with the &#8220;freshly pulled from the ass&#8221;-line that &#8220;the American people don&#8217;t know what the Bush Doctrine is&#8221;.  They were probably urged to personalize it, with the McCain campaign telling these reporters, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know what the Bush Doctrine was; Did you know?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Juan Williams&#8217;s ego, however, wouldn&#8217;t let him do that.  He had to add the only circumstance he could think of in which he wouldn&#8217;t know what the Bush Doctrine is: &#8220;if you ask me in the middle of the night, I would have been: &#8216;What? What?&#8217;&#8221;  If awakened from deep sleep in the middle of the night, that would be the only way that Juan Williams wouldn&#8217;t have known right off the bat what the Bush Doctrine is.  </p>
<p>The problem is, however, Sarah Palin wasn&#8217;t asleep.  She may have been daydreaming about what color carpeting to have installed in the VP&#8217;s offices in the Old Executive Office Building, or selling Air Force Two on Craigslist (or how to get a per diem for the kids), but she definitely wasn&#8217;t asleep.</p>
<p>If the media is saying the American people don&#8217;t know what the Bush Doctrine is, then it&#8217;s the media who is elitest.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5226778', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80 &amp; 81 BUNK. Whatever butt covering Krauthammer is doing NOW the Bush doctrine HAS a well established meaning to both the press and to the people of the US it comes from his speech at West point when he  said  &quot;If we wait for threats to fully materialize, we will have waited too long.&quot;  It is about preventative rather than pre-emptive war. The people who coined wheres the beef werent responsible for what it became commonly used for AFTER they coined it. What the Bush doctrine is to anyone marginally keeping up with foriegn policy is quite clear and it ISNT UP TO KRAUTHAMMER. You guys are weak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 &amp; 81 BUNK. Whatever butt covering Krauthammer is doing NOW the Bush doctrine HAS a well established meaning to both the press and to the people of the US it comes from his speech at West point when he  said  &#8220;If we wait for threats to fully materialize, we will have waited too long.&#8221;  It is about preventative rather than pre-emptive war. The people who coined wheres the beef werent responsible for what it became commonly used for AFTER they coined it. What the Bush doctrine is to anyone marginally keeping up with foriegn policy is quite clear and it ISNT UP TO KRAUTHAMMER. You guys are weak<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5226572', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Copano_Texian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copano_Texian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Gibson&#039;s Gaffe

By Charles Krauthammer
Saturday, September 13, 2008; A17



&quot;At times visibly nervous . . . Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of &#039;anticipatory self-defense.&#039; &quot;

-- New York Times, Sept. 12

Informed her? Rubbish.

The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.

He asked Palin, &quot;Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?&quot;

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, &quot;In what respect, Charlie?&quot;

Sensing his &quot;gotcha&quot; moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine &quot;is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense.&quot;

Wrong.

I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, &quot;The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism,&quot; I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush declared: &quot;Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.&quot; This &quot;with us or against us&quot; policy regarding terror -- first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It&#039;s not. It&#039;s the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush&#039;s second inaugural address: &quot;The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world.&quot;

This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was consciously meant to echo John Kennedy&#039;s pledge in his inaugural address that the United States &quot;shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.&quot; It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson&#039;s 14 points.

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the Bush administration.

Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.

Not the &quot;with us or against us&quot; no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed &quot;doctrines&quot; in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Sarah Palin didn&#039;t know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson. And at least she didn&#039;t pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and &quot;sounding like an impatient teacher,&quot; as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes&#039; reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Gibson&#8217;s Gaffe</p>
<p>By Charles Krauthammer<br />
Saturday, September 13, 2008; A17</p>
<p>&#8220;At times visibly nervous . . . Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of &#8216;anticipatory self-defense.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; New York Times, Sept. 12</p>
<p>Informed her? Rubbish.</p>
<p>The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.</p>
<p>There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration &#8212; and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.</p>
<p>He asked Palin, &#8220;Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?&#8221;</p>
<p>She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, &#8220;In what respect, Charlie?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sensing his &#8220;gotcha&#8221; moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine &#8220;is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, &#8220;The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism,&#8221; I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.</p>
<p>Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush declared: &#8220;Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.&#8221; This &#8220;with us or against us&#8221; policy regarding terror &#8212; first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan &#8212; became the essence of the Bush doctrine.</p>
<p>Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush&#8217;s second inaugural address: &#8220;The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was consciously meant to echo John Kennedy&#8217;s pledge in his inaugural address that the United States &#8220;shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.&#8221; It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson&#8217;s 14 points.</p>
<p>If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume &#8212; unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise &#8212; that he was speaking about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the Bush administration.</p>
<p>Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.</p>
<p>Not the &#8220;with us or against us&#8221; no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.</p>
<p>Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.</p>
<p>Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed &#8220;doctrines&#8221; in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.</p>
<p>Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.</p>
<p>Yes, Sarah Palin didn&#8217;t know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson. And at least she didn&#8217;t pretend to know &#8212; while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and &#8220;sounding like an impatient teacher,&#8221; as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes&#8217; reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5226542', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: scotth</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Badger-

Krauthammer coined the term &quot;Bush Doctrine.&quot; I think he might know a bit about it. And by your own admission, there are many aspects to that &quot;doctrine.&quot;  It was natural for her to ask for a clarification. Feel free to also ignore the other WaPo article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badger-</p>
<p>Krauthammer coined the term &#8220;Bush Doctrine.&#8221; I think he might know a bit about it. And by your own admission, there are many aspects to that &#8220;doctrine.&#8221;  It was natural for her to ask for a clarification. Feel free to also ignore the other WaPo article.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: oscarmadison</title>
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		<dc:creator>oscarmadison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonder why?
  the stoopid factor?
  or was the msm too busy telling americans that saddam blew up twin towers?
  or was msm too busy telling is the significant quanties of uranium were being bought by saddam?
  or the drones of death over cleveland
or was judy miller allowed to blow chalibi to get all the scarorisim/wmd stories.
is this why dumb and dumber american,and palin have no fookun idea what bush docterin is?
  wonder why</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonder why?<br />
  the stoopid factor?<br />
  or was the msm too busy telling americans that saddam blew up twin towers?<br />
  or was msm too busy telling is the significant quanties of uranium were being bought by saddam?<br />
  or the drones of death over cleveland<br />
or was judy miller allowed to blow chalibi to get all the scarorisim/wmd stories.<br />
is this why dumb and dumber american,and palin have no fookun idea what bush docterin is?<br />
  wonder why<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225748</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotth trots out the RNC talking points, via the Neocon Charles Krauthammer.

Charlie Gibson was Unfair to Gov. Palin, because ther are actually FOUR Bush Doctrines.

1.the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol.(Leading to Unilateral action by Russia in Georgia, and stirrings in Bolivia and Venezuela.  Cuban Missile Crisis II???)

2.Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. (Just like in Pakistan)

3.the  doctrine of preemptive war (The one Gibson was referring to)

4.The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world. (Just like in Saudi Arabia)

Fair Enough...Charlie Gibson should have qualified his question.... and said...The Bush Doctrine that got over 4000 Brave Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis Killed, by attacking the WRONG COUNTRY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotth trots out the RNC talking points, via the Neocon Charles Krauthammer.</p>
<p>Charlie Gibson was Unfair to Gov. Palin, because ther are actually FOUR Bush Doctrines.</p>
<p>1.the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol.(Leading to Unilateral action by Russia in Georgia, and stirrings in Bolivia and Venezuela.  Cuban Missile Crisis II???)</p>
<p>2.Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. (Just like in Pakistan)</p>
<p>3.the  doctrine of preemptive war (The one Gibson was referring to)</p>
<p>4.The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world. (Just like in Saudi Arabia)</p>
<p>Fair Enough&#8230;Charlie Gibson should have qualified his question&#8230;. and said&#8230;The Bush Doctrine that got over 4000 Brave Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis Killed, by attacking the WRONG COUNTRY.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225748', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: scotth</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091203324.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091203324.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091203324.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: techsong</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many Americans&quot; are not running for the second highest position is America.  She should know, it shows her ignorance. She is a gimmick candidate and last ditch effort for McCain to save the republican party for the next four years at least. As long as more light is shined on her incompetence McCain should lose any bounce the &quot;hugs and smiles&quot; Palin got him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many Americans&#8221; are not running for the second highest position is America.  She should know, it shows her ignorance. She is a gimmick candidate and last ditch effort for McCain to save the republican party for the next four years at least. As long as more light is shined on her incompetence McCain should lose any bounce the &#8220;hugs and smiles&#8221; Palin got him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225702', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate media strikes again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate media strikes again!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225686', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, MOST AMERICANS aren&#039;t running for Vice Pucking Fresident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, MOST AMERICANS aren&#8217;t running for Vice Pucking Fresident.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225658</link>
		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Scarboro went after the messenger (Gibson) by calling him condescending. Others quickly got on board. Accountability is not a word that Republicans understand. People like Scarboro should stop making excuses for ignorance like this. &quot;His worldview&quot; was a pretty good guess but like most guesses it was wrong. It looks like we are still vetting Palin and it isn&#039;t working out to well. This was almost like a &quot;potatoe&quot; moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Scarboro went after the messenger (Gibson) by calling him condescending. Others quickly got on board. Accountability is not a word that Republicans understand. People like Scarboro should stop making excuses for ignorance like this. &#8220;His worldview&#8221; was a pretty good guess but like most guesses it was wrong. It looks like we are still vetting Palin and it isn&#8217;t working out to well. This was almost like a &#8220;potatoe&#8221; moment.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225658', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225634</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;which if you ask me in the middle of the night, I would have been: “What? What?”&lt;/i&gt;

Funny, because those of us who have been following the news during the last eight years (disastrous years, I might add) know what in the world the &quot;Bush doctrine&quot; is. 

Are we supposed to believe that the people &lt;i&gt;whose job is to read those news to us&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t bloody know what &quot;Bush doctrine&quot; even means? 

Maybe Williams was thinking of the 23%ers, who have supported this (mis)administration through all their contradictory propaganda, but whose heads didn&#039;t explode trying to believe all the claptrap coming out of the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>which if you ask me in the middle of the night, I would have been: “What? What?”</i></p>
<p>Funny, because those of us who have been following the news during the last eight years (disastrous years, I might add) know what in the world the &#8220;Bush doctrine&#8221; is. </p>
<p>Are we supposed to believe that the people <i>whose job is to read those news to us</i> don&#8217;t bloody know what &#8220;Bush doctrine&#8221; even means? </p>
<p>Maybe Williams was thinking of the 23%ers, who have supported this (mis)administration through all their contradictory propaganda, but whose heads didn&#8217;t explode trying to believe all the claptrap coming out of the White House.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225634', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upside99</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225592</link>
		<dc:creator>upside99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;So, now the Repug standard for POTUS has been lowered to anyone that has visited more than 4 international countries and has earned their undergraduate degree in less than 6 years.
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&lt;strong&gt;AWESOME!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>So, now the Repug standard for POTUS has been lowered to anyone that has visited more than 4 international countries and has earned their undergraduate degree in less than 6 years.<br />
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<strong>AWESOME!!!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Praedor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Juan Idiot Williams, most Americans who don&#039;t know shit are NOT running to be President and Vice President of the USA.  

Usually, one doesn&#039;t desire just some oily hayseed with no working brains to be the one in charge.  USUALLY you want the smart, competent person to be placed into positions of authority.  Ya know your freakin&#039; moron?  

Juan Williams needs to be fired and go back to checking tire pressure at some gas station.  That&#039;s all he&#039;s qualified for...same with all the other idiots that think ignorance and stupidity are just dandy attributes for a Prez or VP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Juan Idiot Williams, most Americans who don&#8217;t know shit are NOT running to be President and Vice President of the USA.  </p>
<p>Usually, one doesn&#8217;t desire just some oily hayseed with no working brains to be the one in charge.  USUALLY you want the smart, competent person to be placed into positions of authority.  Ya know your freakin&#8217; moron?  </p>
<p>Juan Williams needs to be fired and go back to checking tire pressure at some gas station.  That&#8217;s all he&#8217;s qualified for&#8230;same with all the other idiots that think ignorance and stupidity are just dandy attributes for a Prez or VP.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225584', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Todd</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225578</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicago Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naively, I thought the press would be all over the fact that she did not know about the Bush Doctrine.  This doctrine is what drove us into the greatest strategic blunder our country has ever made.  

The American public may not know what the Bush Doctrine is, but they certainly know the results – a war without end, a war that is shifting money badly needed for hurting Americans to the war effort, over 4000 soldiers dead, over 20,000 soldiers injured – a lot very severely, and estimates of over 100,000 innocent Iraqis dead with millions more displaced and living in squallor.  

So the pampered Candy Crowley, Jessica Yellin, David Gergen, and Juan “I don’t know what the Bush Doctrine is either” Williams – with absolutely no skin in the war and making a very good living – are only implicating their own bad journalism – because if they had been doing their frickin’ jobs for the last eight, miserable years, the American people would know what a radical and un-American doctrine this is. 

The hubris of these people to shrug this off when it has been the absolute worst disaster this country has seen.  Unbelievable these people call themselves journalist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naively, I thought the press would be all over the fact that she did not know about the Bush Doctrine.  This doctrine is what drove us into the greatest strategic blunder our country has ever made.  </p>
<p>The American public may not know what the Bush Doctrine is, but they certainly know the results – a war without end, a war that is shifting money badly needed for hurting Americans to the war effort, over 4000 soldiers dead, over 20,000 soldiers injured – a lot very severely, and estimates of over 100,000 innocent Iraqis dead with millions more displaced and living in squallor.  </p>
<p>So the pampered Candy Crowley, Jessica Yellin, David Gergen, and Juan “I don’t know what the Bush Doctrine is either” Williams – with absolutely no skin in the war and making a very good living – are only implicating their own bad journalism – because if they had been doing their frickin’ jobs for the last eight, miserable years, the American people would know what a radical and un-American doctrine this is. </p>
<p>The hubris of these people to shrug this off when it has been the absolute worst disaster this country has seen.  Unbelievable these people call themselves journalist!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225578', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BaxterJ</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225574</link>
		<dc:creator>BaxterJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about the subject you know most about or are most passionate about -- your favorite sports team, band, television show, author, whatever. Don&#039;t you know a lot about it? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.entertonement.com/collections/3369/First-Palin-Interview-Pt-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shouldn&#039;t Palin know as much about foreign affairs&lt;/a&gt; if she wants to be a heartbeat from the President?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about the subject you know most about or are most passionate about &#8212; your favorite sports team, band, television show, author, whatever. Don&#8217;t you know a lot about it? <a href="http://www.entertonement.com/collections/3369/First-Palin-Interview-Pt-1" rel="nofollow">Shouldn&#8217;t Palin know as much about foreign affairs</a> if she wants to be a heartbeat from the President?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225574', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225566</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t the leader of the free world be someone above average ?

Let&#039;s See.  Bush....Gentleman&#039;s D avg......McCain almost last in his class.......Palin not too long ago asked what the Veep did (but her family discussions trained her well for policy)......

Is this some kind of weird Dostoevsky comedy ?  (The Village Idiot is already taken)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the leader of the free world be someone above average ?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s See.  Bush&#8230;.Gentleman&#8217;s D avg&#8230;&#8230;McCain almost last in his class&#8230;&#8230;.Palin not too long ago asked what the Veep did (but her family discussions trained her well for policy)&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this some kind of weird Dostoevsky comedy ?  (The Village Idiot is already taken)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225566', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hawkeye</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225546</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawkeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politicians and media think the country is stupid. The scary thing is they may be right considering McSame is even close in this race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians and media think the country is stupid. The scary thing is they may be right considering McSame is even close in this race.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225546', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: helenahandbasket</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225532</link>
		<dc:creator>helenahandbasket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear that Palin is in Bush in lipstick.  Geez, in 2000 bush, wouldn&#039;t have known what any foreign policy doctrine was either and look how he did. (snark on)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear that Palin is in Bush in lipstick.  Geez, in 2000 bush, wouldn&#8217;t have known what any foreign policy doctrine was either and look how he did. (snark on)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225532', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/media-palin-bush-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-5225482</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorant talking heads who are on TV for how they look, not what they know certainly would be sympathetic with SP.  We are in a new era of neo &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Know-Nothings&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorant talking heads who are on TV for how they look, not what they know certainly would be sympathetic with SP.  We are in a new era of neo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing" rel="nofollow">Know-Nothings</a>!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5225482', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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