His email is: lou.dobbs@turner.com

They ignorant people are weak and will fail every single time !

And your right about getting out to vote. Regardless of this particular example, conservatives are lacking in terms of being inclusive.

It really is (or should be) a place where all are created equal. At the least, conservatives have failed to convince minorities that they believe in equality and tolerance for diversity. At worst, they actively promote bigotry.

Either way, I believe conservatives are on the wrong side of the diversity issue. And pragmatically, in an ever increasingly diverse society, it is a losing position.

I agree with most of what you say, however the size of his lips or eyes is besides the point, and I don’t think most African Americans, (at least the ones who take pride in their physical features that white supermodels and celebrities are obtaining by cosmetic surgery), offensive.

Who should be offended are: Hispanic voters,where they show him wearing a Mexican sombrero erasing the border to “allow more illegal immigrants” and Muslims, where he is shown wearing a turban.

Actually the two hicks for Kentucky are really to ignorant to distinguish between islamic garb and African garb in the photograph they showed with his relatives. But for Hicks, I can see how the 2 would be one in the same.

African Americans may find the idiotic rap with the overuse of ebonics and the claim to be part of the Ludacris posse offensive, but I must say that AA have been aware of this kind of bigotry far longer than most of the young “libs” in the Barack camp.

All of this is more reason to get your butts out and vote, else find ourselves moving back 50 years as a country, if those righties have their way!!!

It could just be ignorance, but I’m honestly not seeing it. The picture on the front of the box doesn’t look like stereotypical black guy Obama, it just looks like Obama.

And I questioned some of the other characterizations on the box (especially the rap), but, after looking at it, I honestly believe they are satire of him, Obama. If people think he waffles, his face is on a box of waffle mix. If people question his relationship with a controversial rapper, they pen an Obama rap. His stand on illegal immigration, they put him in a sombrero. His possible Muslim leanings, the Arab hat.

In the McCain example. Falling asleep at the wheel or wearing Depends is not specific to McCain, but to seniors. It’s suggesting old people aren’t competent to be entrusted with responsibility (they wet themselves and fall asleep behind the wheel). And the cowboy hat? McCain doesn’t wear one. It’s a stereotypical suggestion that cowboys (typically white and male) act with hubris. They’re reckless, unsophisticated, and unwise.

You’re right about the free speech issue. If people think it’s racist, they should point it out. I agree.

I do think there is jeopardy of finding racism or sexism when it isn’t there (maybe this case, maybe not). And diminishing the credibility of the charge when it may be more warranted.

I don’t want racism or sexism. But, I do want a free exchange of ideas. I feel undecided about this particular example. But, it does provide good fodder for a discussion on the balance between satire and bigotry in a world where political power is becoming more diverse.

It’s McCain. He’s old. He’s white. He’s wearing a cowboy hat (reckless warmongering). He’s at a supermarket buying Depends (old). He’s falling asleep at the wheel of the straight talk express (old). And putting on lip stick to kiss the behinds of Evangelicals. You should watch it. It’s funny.

My point is this: Aren’t those stereotypes of McCain? An old white guy. Wouldn’t they, or shouldn’t they be offensive? Haven’t we had that kind of satire from the beginning?
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Yes they are stereotypes of McCain, you could argue they are unfair, mean and satirical but they are stereotypes of HIM not of his entire race. The Obama charicature is NOT a stereotype of him but an offensive stereotype of his RACE using physical charictaristics HE DOES NOT HAVE.

Maybe some of the Palin attacks have been sexist. Maybe this and other attacks on Obama are racist.
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I havent seen any sexist mysoginistic attacks on Palin, cough them up I will join you in condemning them.

But, is satire off limits when it comes to women and minorities? If you portray a black man as being black in a cartoon, and you give him black characteristics, at what point does it become racist? When you portray a woman in a cartoon and you depict the fact that she has breasts, at what point are they distorted to the point that it’s sexist?
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I love satire and RACIST BS IS NOT SATIRE. Satire is defined as sacrcams and ridicule of vice or folly. Exactly what vice or folly is involved in being black? So it ISNT satire not even CLOSE. To answer your last question when the woman being lampooned has small or average breasts and they are depicted as huge THAT is where it becomes sexist.

The two white guys in the thread clip really don’t believe they are being racist. The characterizations all have some foundation (I may not buy them, but they’re in the news). The charge that he flip-flops. His stand on illegal immigration. The charge that he has Muslim associations. His relationship with the rapper Ludacris.
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I dont believe that. I think they know full well they are being racist and that charicature is NOT based on any reasonable foundation. DOES Obama have big lips? Bulging eyes? Why no HE doesnt its an offensive stereotype based on his RACE not on him. Had they just put him on waffles it WOULD have been legitimate satire of course more fitting for McCain than Obama but legitimate none the less but the racist charicature is flat out racist.

Again, I’m just asking the question. Reconsider the McCain satire. Should it be off limits? It portrays him as a reckless cowboy. Religious sycophant. Senior that wets himself and falls asleep while driving.
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All of which are about HIM not about his race.

I’m proud that we have gotten to a point where minorities and women enjoy more prevalence in leadership. It’s progress.

But, with the new playing field, we have new questions about what is appropriate free speech or satire and what is bigotry.
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There is no free speech issue here at all. No one anywhwere has demaded these people be arrested for their offensive idiocy and that is pretty much all free speech allows. When we criticise them it is as much using OUR free speech as their racist BS is using theirs. As to what is appropriate THAT is the crux of the biscuit. I say racist and sexist BS has no place in the national dialogue and when it rears its ugly head it out to be loudly criticised

Well at least we know that CNN is racist…and all of those people who thought these photos were real.
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WOW, that was REALLY stupid even for you. So someone photoshopped Sarracuda into a bikini holding a gun and that would play into a negative stereotype of white people HOW? Look we know you are ignorant. Your place at the stupid table is secure you dont have to try so hard to keep rasing the ignorance bar post after post. Try something novel, I dont know a cogent argument a well thought out position hell any thinking at all would be a step in the right direction. This knee jerk idiocy that is your stock and trade is just sad and pathetic dont you ever get tired of humiliating yourself so completely?

Guys, please relax and save the energy for important things. I’m not seeing the racist element here. Rather, I see a caricature of Obama
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Really? You see a charicature of OBAMA? A charicature makes exggerations of physical characteristics the person REALLY HAS, so you think Obama has those big puffy lips and bulging eyes? Why in fact no he doesnt, he has rather thin lips and fine features. That is a charicture of a RACISTS idea of what Obama SHOULD look like not of OBAMA

Remember the Jimmy Carter caricatures?
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And the racial stereotype of White people is what again, oh thats right there really ISNT one so its not the same thing but the charicitures of Jimmy exagerated physical charictaristics HE ACTUALLY HAD.

If we really want a colorblind society, we have to stop pulling out the race card every time something offends us.
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If we want a just society in racial terms we cannot buy into the stupid rightwing meme that whenever WE point out racism we are doing something wrong that THEY want to call pulling out the race card. They would have us pretend racism doesnt exist and when we show ANY racist attitude or action then we are pulling out the race card because the problem is NEVER the racism its always pointing the racism out.

Plus, if we go nuts every time we get offended by something that may or may not be there, we’ll turn off the average voter…many of whom are Republicans. Do you really think you can win an election without those voters?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes we can win an election without republicans there are far more Dems and independents than Republicans. We dont need to cater to the racists who are NEVER going to vote for Obama anyway.

It is great that a black man is the Democratic nominee for President. It was great that Hillary was a very serious contender for the top spot. I think it’s great that Republicans have a woman on the ticket. I think that it is something very objective that points out that women and minorities are getting a real seat at the table. That’s progress.

But, it is causing us some growing pains. Since the founding, it’s pretty much been white guys in political office. And it has been those white guys that have been the target of satire.

Let me try this clip to make the point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qha3pZTflzY

It’s McCain. He’s old. He’s white. He’s wearing a cowboy hat (reckless warmongering). He’s at a supermarket buying Depends (old). He’s falling asleep at the wheel of the straight talk express (old). And putting on lip stick to kiss the behinds of Evangelicals. You should watch it. It’s funny.

My point is this: Aren’t those stereotypes of McCain? An old white guy. Wouldn’t they, or shouldn’t they be offensive? Haven’t we had that kind of satire from the beginning?

Maybe some of the Palin attacks have been sexist. Maybe this and other attacks on Obama are racist.

But, is satire off limits when it comes to women and minorities? If you portray a black man as being black in a cartoon, and you give him black characteristics, at what point does it become racist? When you portray a woman in a cartoon and you depict the fact that she has breasts, at what point are they distorted to the point that it’s sexist?

The two white guys in the thread clip really don’t believe they are being racist. The characterizations all have some foundation (I may not buy them, but they’re in the news). The charge that he flip-flops. His stand on illegal immigration. The charge that he has Muslim associations. His relationship with the rapper Ludacris.

Again, I’m just asking the question. Reconsider the McCain satire. Should it be off limits? It portrays him as a reckless cowboy. Religious sycophant. Senior that wets himself and falls asleep while driving.

I’m proud that we have gotten to a point where minorities and women enjoy more prevalence in leadership. It’s progress.

But, with the new playing field, we have new questions about what is appropriate free speech or satire and what is bigotry.

Of course, I’ll listen to those that disagree.

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I mean it is not racists is it?

I DON’T THINK SO.

Something racist and ignorant beyond belief that no one in their right mind wants any part of. Whats wrong ignoramus, bad day at the KKK meeting? Too much starch in your sheets? Tell us something you dumb piece of trash why would it be a free speech issue to run with this racist garbage but somehow NOT be free speech to criticise the racist garbage? Easy now, this will take some higher brain function and we dont want you to strain that substandard brain. Let me help you. NO POSSIBLE READING of the first amendment applies ONLY to what is said and not to criticism OF what is said, you braindead, brainwashed ignorant, racist piece of human debris

Of course, if you want to completely ignore the facts and throw false accusations and label anything said about it as “playing the race card” — you’d probably be perfectly suited to work as a campaign surrogate for McKKKain and Stalin.