No Energy Expert At Senate Hearing Willing To Say That Oil Drilling Is America’s Most Important Issue
No Energy Expert At Senate Hearing Willing To Say That Oil Drilling Is America’s Most Important Issue
Yesterday, the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources held a Bipartisan Energy Summit featuring experts from MIT, Google, Shell, and others. At one point in the hearing, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) tore into the energy protest House Republicans have been holding for the past several weeks. This political stunt was meant to demand a vote on oil drilling and “attack Democrats for leaving town” in August “without doing something to lower gas prices.”
After listening all the problems currently facing the country, Whitehouse asked the experts whether anyone thought drilling was the “number one issue” right now. Almost nine seconds went by with complete silence:
WHITEHOUSE: Gentlemen, we’re in the middle of a near total mortgage system meltdown in this country. We have a health care system that burns 16 percent of our GDP, in which the Medicare liability alone has been estimated at $34 trillion. We’re burning $10 billion a month in Iraq.
This administration has run up $7.7 trillion in national debt, by our calculation. And there is worsening evidence every day of global warming, with worsening environmental and national security ramifications. In light of those conditions, do any of you seriously contend that drilling for more oil is the number one issue facing the American people today?
[NINE-SECOND SILENCE]
WHITEHOUSE: No, it doesn’t seem so.
Watch it:
House Republicans have spent the past month claiming that their political stunt was “America’s greatest hour” and the “2008 version of the Boston Tea Party.” Not only are they out of step with energy experts, but according to recent polls, the majority of the American public believes that the economy — not drilling — is the most important issue facing the nation. More here and here on why drilling isn’t the answer to lowering gas prices. (HT: Get Energy Smart)
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Republicans and their followers can't seem to understand basic math.
We use 25% of the world's oil supply, but only have 3%. As long as we are oil-dependent, drilling here cannot get us the remaining 21% without importing it from other countries.
25% - 3% = 21%.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:03 amHouse Republicans have spent the past month claiming that their political stunt was “America’s greatest hour” and the “2008 version of the Boston Tea Party.”
"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end." ~Maximus
September 13th, 2008 at 11:06 amWHITEHOUSE: No, it doesn’t seem so.
I've been saying for months that McCain is WORSE than Bush.
Bush could have overturned Roe v. Wade, but didn't. McCain-Palin would.
Bush could have attacked Iran, but so far hasn't. McCain-Palin would attack Iran AND Russia.
Bush could have pushed for more offshore drilling, but hasn't. McCain-Palin will.
I never thought we could do worse than Bush Cheney, but with McCain-Palin (or is it Palin-McCain?), we will.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:07 am'Drilling' is the GOP code word for emptying the Department of the Interior before they're thrown out of office.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:08 amThey have already emptied the Department of the Treasury.
GOP brand of willful ignorance will bring the Empire to its end.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:11 amWhoa! How could they hold the event without America's foremost energy expert, Sarah Palin?
Never mind that she characterized the Exxon Valdez spill as 11,000 gallons of fuel when it was 10.8 million gallons of crude.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:19 amAlso, beware of that Trojan Horse T. Boone Pickens !!
Is any one else as sick of him as I am?
¶ AIO
September 13th, 2008 at 11:21 amI think that Mr. Whitehouse put the priorities of the gop in perfect perspective. Too bad the American people will never hear this exchange.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:23 amunbelievable Says:
Republicans and their followers can’t seem to understand basic math.
They also don't understand basic economics. The typical Republican believes that prices can only be moved by increasing supply, not by reducing demand. This belief runs counter to the fundamental law of economics. Rejecting this belief is on par with rejecting Newton's laws of motion, or believing that the earth is 6,000 years old. Mind-numbing stupidity.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:24 amOf course, it’s just another GOP (should be changed to BOP--for Bad Old Party…) diversionary tactic used to distract from the global economy going into the crapper, war-for-profit, the Big Oil rip-off artists (aka as speculators) who over the years have obstructed efforts to make the transition to Solar Energy and other alternative fuels, etc. etc.
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September 13th, 2008 at 11:27 amIn light of the fact that the off-shore wells and the on-shore refineries supplied, in part, by those wells have been shut down for some time due to a series of storms directly related to Global Warming, by what convoluted logic can any reasonable person argue that more wells off-shore can solve the energy problem. The only thing that will be accomplished is that the oil produced by those wells will indirectly add to the Global Warming problem which will produce more and more severe storms which will shut down more wells for a longer period. The only increased drilling that needs to be done is drilling holes in which the deposit the Corporate thieves and their syncophant Repukelian lackeys.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:28 amIt's funny in a comic tragedy kind of way. The bottom line, I believe is that the media is owned by major supporters of the right.
We are the enemy and the media is a powerful tool. They will use it and have no morality to cause them a problem with doing just that.
This did not start recently....it began in earnest when the fairness doctrine was eliminated under raygun.
Take heart that we are holding our own against this powerful machine and the odds are stacked heavily against us. This may be our last chance.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:28 amWhitehouse represents Rhode Island, not Delaware.
Minor error aside, we sure seem to be reaching for new lows in our poor country, thanks to the lame-brained Republican Party (full disclosure: I was once one). Is this the dreaded slide to third world status?
September 13th, 2008 at 11:30 amalphainfinityomega Says: Also, beware of that Trojan Horse T. Boone Pickens !! Is any one else as sick of him as I am?
While he's likely in it just for the $$$ and the celebrity, the fact that he has an admirable message that is swaying Republicans to go green deserves some credit.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:30 amIs it just me or does the panel appear to be laughing at the 0:53 mark when Whitehouse was waiting for an answer?
September 13th, 2008 at 11:34 amVerbalKint Says: They also don’t understand basic economics. The typical Republican believes that prices can only be moved by increasing supply, not by reducing demand.
I hear they are also fond of just printing more money....
September 13th, 2008 at 11:35 amFascism seems to be the global trend. Look at China and Russia. They are Fascist powers. It's really sad. We must elect Obama, he will fight for world peace.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:36 amsatirev Says: There’s a part of me that sides with Whoopie Goldberg’s recent comment about “letting the criminals clean up their own mess” which has a ring of truth to it all.
Unfortunately, they lack the will, the capability, and the impetus to clean up their own messes, and therefore that responsibility falls to those who are responsible (and competent).
Either we elect Obama, or we watch things get much, much worse.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:38 amWHITEHOUSE: In light of those conditions, do any of you seriously contend that drilling for more oil is the number one issue facing the American people today?
**CRICKETS**
WHITEHOUSE: No, it doesn’t seem so.
But, but, but, but.....what does Princess Caribou* have to say about this...?
*HT spencer's mom ;)
September 13th, 2008 at 11:42 amI wish i could say that I voted for Sheldon Whitehouse but my absentee ballot got lost in the mail
September 13th, 2008 at 11:47 amsatirev Says:
I must say that, in my lifetime, I don’t believe that I’ve evern seen so many newscaster’s personal credibility tanked so easily as this past week. Did you notice Barbara Walters’ body language when McCain was lying on the view? She looked totally and profoundly disgusted.
It is disgusting that the best reporting we get is out of the View and the National Inquirer. That interview on the View must be embarrassing for the talking heads in the MSM who call themselves reporters or journalists. Maybe that embarrassment will spur them into action. They have been promising for over a month now that they will start going after McBush the same way they go after Obama.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:49 ami was amazed to find this story in my daily paper:
Oil brokers sex scandal may affect drilling debate
The Associated Press - Sep 11, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) — A scandal involving sex, drugs and — uh, offshore oil drilling. It's a strange mix, and it couldn't have come at a worse time for those in ...
if for no other reason than i hadn't heard that angle on any of the blogs i read...
it really IS one of those "blessings in disguise"...
does nancy & co know?
September 13th, 2008 at 11:51 amAnd for a good laugh, check out McC's website. There is no mention of increasing drilling in any of his policy proposals.
None.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:53 amThe history of 2000 and 2004 should tell you that this is not going to happen. The media is owned by the right and without the fairness doctrine we will not get equal coverage.
The good news is that despite that, Obama is still holding his own and the coverage from this point on will be at debates mostly and the adds....I haven't given up by a long shot.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:55 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says: Maybe that embarrassment will spur them into action.
I think they are too clouded by their virtual tax-exempt status under Fascist rule to care about their integrity. So, perhaps their declining viewership, might be the catalyst they need to be less partisan.
Though, Time Magazine (at least the online version) and AP have actually been honest about McCain-Palin recently, which has been quite surprising...
September 13th, 2008 at 11:56 amFor the Bushes the Cheneys and their Big Oil cronies the world is an oil well and all the people in it little soldier and worker ants born to be suckered exploited worked to death and then flushed down the toilet.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am# 17, unbelievable:
Isn't T. Boone's 'solution' kind of like getting drunk and getting sober at the same time?
I still say it's a ploy to drill whole hog.
(no offense meant to Sarah Palin)
¶ AIO :)
September 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pmalphainfinityomega Says: I still say it’s a ploy to drill whole hog.
He can probably make more $ being a pioneer for natural gas and wind energy, because there is limited competition at this point in those areas, versus a host of 'oil drillers' all clamboring to get their hands on 3% of the world's supply of hard to reach crude.
I don't think most people, with the exception of Dick Cheney, are 100% bad. There is some good in his advertisements. But I suppose time will tell.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:13 pmSome enterprising reporter (assuming there are any left) should ask Sarah Palin "Do you support a windfall profit tax on US oil companies to help the citizens with the price of gasoline". That is truly a "gotcha" question. If she answers "no", then the reporter should ask "then why did you do that in Alaska to get every person an extra $1,200 in their yearly check?" If she says "yes" she is going against the agenda of the Republican party.
I won't hold my breath for that to happen. But, just remember every time you fill up your tank, some of what you are paying at the pump is so that every man, woman and child in Alaska can get an extra $1,200. What a sweet deal that is.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:16 pmalphainfinityomega Says:
# 17, unbelievable:
Isn’t T. Boone’s ’solution’ kind of like getting drunk and getting sober at the same time?
I still say it’s a ploy to drill whole hog.
(no offense meant to Sarah Palin)
Actually, I think you are wrong. T. Boone is smart enough to see that we are on the downside of peak oil. And since he wants to keep racking in the bucks, he has transferred his attention and business resources to natural gas.
I hate to sound stupid, but is natural gas a renewable resource?
September 13th, 2008 at 12:18 pmT. Boone Pickens plan is really a scam to get at water rights.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:20 pmhttp://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/07/the--pickens-plan-and-pickens-water-grab-video-recap.php
New rules would give FBI more freedom in US operations
September 13th, 2008 at 12:21 pmLos Angeles Times - 9 hours ago
Agents would be allowed to conduct physical surveillance in a public location, recruit and deploy informants, and conduct interviews without identifying themselves.
Terror Plan Would Give FBI More Power New York Times
FBI Seeks to Loosen Restrictions Wall Street Journal
Washington Post - ABC News - Kansas City Star - Reuters
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: I hate to sound stupid, but is natural gas a renewable resource?
I know that it's a byproduct of coal, which we have in the ground in massive quantities here, which McCain wants to remove from the ground, for his faux 'clean coal' energy, which will reduce the amount of coal.
What I don't know is if coal can product more natural gas or not. I'll go look.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:24 pmThere's a way to solve this "energy crisis"...
First, watch this short Reuters news video.
Then read thisarticle.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:26 pmI read this article over at TPM. It puts words to something that has been bothering me lately. And that is that the money WE THE PEOPLE gave to try to have an honest election is being used to fund the dirtiest and sleaziest lie fest ever. There should be a rule in public financing and that would be if you are caught telling a lie in a commercial paid for by public fnancing money, then you lose the money, period.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/john-mccain-give-me-back-my-gd.php
September 13th, 2008 at 12:30 pmIt's a fossil fuel, so therefore it is limited in supply, like oil, but because it's more abundant than oil, it's cheaper. However, it requires extraction and refining, so it's definitely NOT clean energy like solar, thoug it is cleaner to burn than crude.
It sounds a lot like oil in terms of how it is handled. But I do think most people see nartural gas as a temporary, intermediate solution while other forms are developed.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
The MSM is an enabler of the re-pukes and their dogma and that includes the MSM Protection society for McPalin and co.Obama has a good plan along Gores alternative energy we can make a go of it here and now.As for drilling,PHUCK that the oil company`s have plenty of capped wells that can be uncapped and tapped and away we go, but no they want more leases to play with and explore that wiil absolutely get us knowhere at this time.We all know drill, drill , drill is not the answer because we will not see any output for five plus years, but hey McPalin says it will have a psychological effect and therefore $4 a gal of gas will psychologically be whatever you think it should be.McPalin will be a lot worse than Bushco if you can believe it, I do.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:34 pmIf somehow they could set up a competition and give up say 1000 acres for offshore drilling and the same area for renewable, alternative energy and measure the direct impact of fueling, say, a comparable amount of homes, and the timeframe that happens, it would be a great demonstration.
Natural Gas is between 85 and 95% methane, but in the context of exploration and production it is not renewable. Methane itself could be considered 'renewable' since it is the basic by-product of carbon-based reactions.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:34 pmThere is something called "biogas" that is renewable, but still not clean like solar:
September 13th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Didn't Boone Pickens invent the Pet Rock...? No...?
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September 13th, 2008 at 12:38 pm#
greenpagan Says:
Didn’t Boone Pickens invent the Pet Rock…? No…?
:)
¶ AIO
September 13th, 2008 at 12:49 pmOf course no energy expert is. Why? Because this was a crisis created by the GOP right before an election because they have no other issues to stand on other than pro-life.
These republican assclowns know just how stupid their supporters are. Create a crisis, sell the lie, show concern but don't remind your supporters that you could have passed offshore oil drilling at anytime while you held the majority in both the house and senate.
This is similar to the faux abortion issue. The republicans claim to be against abortion and yet they could have passed a bill outlawing it when they had a majority in both houses, a republican president and a right leaning supreme court and yet they did nothing and none of the sheople have enough brains to ask why.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pmNow can someone explain to me again why we still haven't simply been asked to use less? I think my mother is sort of proud of her childhood efforts to help out her nation at war by collecting and "recycling" useful metal waste materials around her philadelphia neighborhood. Why has no leader rallied the people round collective conservation? Have we become too spoiled to be bothered?
September 13th, 2008 at 12:55 pmMaybe the general public is coming to realize that no amount of drilling will reduce the price at the pumps so much as a nickel in the foreseeable future, but that any little twitch in the supply, much less a hurricane, causes price jumps up to a dollar or more, not due to the event itself, but due to the "futures" of the market?
Which supposedly explains why prices among all the "competitors" go up and down in almost perfect concert with each other?
Maybe it is even sinking in that this whole system just amounts to an elaborate sham to make price fixing legal for the monopolistic cartel that produces and distributes petroleum.
September 13th, 2008 at 12:57 pmHouse Republicans have spent the past month claiming that their political stunt was “America’s greatest hour” and the “2008 version of the Boston Tea Party.”
"..I wonder where can one find a drug that could make one so delusional?"
September 13th, 2008 at 1:01 pm--Lewis Black
Why has no leader rallied the people round collective conservation?
September 13th, 2008 at 1:03 pmWho? Conservatives?
There are no competitors. You got it right in this part of your post:
monopolies operate well with no regulations.....that's why they don't want to be regulated.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:05 pmWhat good is more oil without the increased production in the refineries? There hasn't been a new refinery built in the US in years but the population continues to grow as well as our consumption of fuel.
Without new refineries this whole argument about the need to drill now is moot.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI agree with this thought I found on Andrew Sullivan's site:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/are-the-netroot.html#more
We do need to stop taking the bait that Rove and the McCain campaign put out there. I know it's fun to blow holes in their lies, but what is important here is getting Obama's message out there for the undecideds to see.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI see others got there before me, but if Sen. Whitehouse wanted to hear from a real "energy expert" why didn't he ask Sarah Palin?
After all, she "knows more abut energy than probably anyone in the United States".
September 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pmBy the time these new 'resources' come on line, we shouldn't even need them.
Elect Obama.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:17 pm#1 - unbelievable . your logic is 100 % , your math not so much
September 13th, 2008 at 1:18 pm25 minus 3 is 22 not 21
Bob, for real is it just that the system is controlled by the very forces which do not want me to conserve? Where are the leaders? I was taught some weird bullshit about US Americans being these righteous git'r done peoples who rally round and do such things as save the world from tyrants and put men on celestail bodies and plant victory gardens and such shit but these same imaginary people can't carpool nor drink water from the tap rather than that petroleum bottle shaped in a cute square...
September 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pmcargod Says:
#1 - unbelievable . your logic is 100 % , your math not so much
25 minus 3 is 22 not 21
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unbelievable was jes' tryin' to make a point, by using Rovian math... kinda like pretending that CO2 from cars is different than CO2 from anywhere else.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:26 pmNice article in today's Seattle Times calling Palin out on her refusal to admit she was for the bridge to nowhere earmark before she was not only against it, but also kept the money.
And a slam on McIIIrd's ridiculous misstatements (lies).
Nice to see a local newspaper is calling BS on these monkeys.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:29 pm#61 Ros , sorry I guess I missed the pun
September 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pmWell, Duhhhhhhh.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:34 pmI weighed in on this topic this morning on The Pond: Craven Dims Supplicate GOPhascist Fux On Off-Shore/ANWR Oil Drilling/Lease Issues
September 13th, 2008 at 1:35 pmcargod Says:
#61 Ros , sorry I guess I missed the pun
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Thas all right... it were a subtle one...
September 13th, 2008 at 1:38 pmCome on, we're at war and they say 'go shop'?? They encourage using more fuel and energy when the fighting has a direct effect on the price of that fuel? Leading us ot of energy independence is not going to come from a WH controlled by oil.
It's exasperating to see these Sht Heads that call themslves conservatives but then talk about driving their hummers just because they can when we're at war that has directly impacted the price of doing that. The whole culture must change to say, Hey, Dumbass, don't waste enegy, it's wrong. I wish we had the culture where whackos like glenbeck, is it, that encouraged waste to cancel out the d convention, were shunned. What an a$$.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pmAmericans have yet to feel the cost of the Iraq war. It was all done with borrowed money and so Americans did not have to sacrifice to make it happen.
The bill is coming due however and there will be no escaping the cost to Amerians.
Will we allow them to frame the debt in a way that makes it look like bush's folly did not incure the debt? That is the question.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm#66 Ros , I better return to lurking for a while
September 13th, 2008 at 2:05 pmthank you
From NPR:
The U.S. buys a lot more from China than China's consumers buy from America each year. Because of that gap in trade, China ends up with about a billion new U.S. dollars every day.
What do the Chinese do with all that money? They lend it back to the U.S. so Americans can buy more from them. China doesn't just give Americans credit cards or a bank loan. Instead, one of the main ways China lends that money to the U.S. is by buying bonds issued by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The agencies were set up solely to help Americans get cheaper mortgages, but they've become key parts of the global economic system.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pmunbelievable Says:
... or is it Palin-McCain?
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UH... MCCAILIN/PAIN '08???
September 13th, 2008 at 2:08 pmIf we're going to depend on oil so completely for our energy needs, it might be pragmatic to move the refining facilities to higher ground.
Houston we have a problem!
September 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pmFred, you mean like continually funding war through supplementals? It's in the culture too that notion of living on credit, and at some point the bill does come due.
All this is tied together by the republican power and the influence of oil in the WH and Congress since the energy crisis of the '70s. We could easily be way down that road of energy independence and alternative fuel had those paths not been stifled. We certainly should not allow energy policy to be a secret conglomerate among oil companies. There seems to be something wrong with 'free market' controlling National Security interests. This country is at record debt and those same oil companies have seen record profits because our leaders are morally bankrupt.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:20 pmI am sure that John Boner is drunk again.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pmVeritas,
Perhaps the MSM is starting to turn on Sen McCain.
MSM's New Meme: JOHN MCCAIN IS A LIAR.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/13/10947/7907/734/597280
"They lean to their corporate masters, yes, but when they smell blood in the water, they just can't help themselves. I have NEVER seen such blanket unfavorable coverage of John McCain on the front news page ..."
September 13th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
unbelievable was jes’ tryin’ to make a point, by using Rovian math… kinda like pretending that CO2 from cars is different than CO2 from anywhere else.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
It is different. The isotopic composition of carbon and oxygen released by burning of fossil fuels is different from the isotopic composition of carbon and oxygen released by natural processes. This is what NOAA's CarbonTracker system is using to measure the human contribution to greenhouse gas.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:32 pmJohn knows how to fix it 'cause he can look out at the ocean from the backporch of one of them houses he's got in Arizona. He probably strums a guitar to the melody of some ditty as he looks to the horizon knowing how to fix evr'thang.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:00 pmrepugs little stunts aren't working as well as it did for rr, gb 1&2. Those annoying mocks at common US citizens are seen by commonsense folks as belittling and arrogrant. It's not funny when some folks finally realized that the repugs are shittin on the Constitution, starting personal wars, denying their secret government, supporting private armies with taxpayers' money and yanking food out our mouths while repugs use money to wipe their flabby, white asses.
Their nasty dangerous tactics is what makes others hate the US.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:24 pmunbelievable Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: Maybe that embarrassment will spur them into action.
I think they are too clouded by their virtual tax-exempt status under Fascist rule to care about their integrity. So, perhaps their declining viewership, might be the catalyst they need to be less partisan.
Though, Time Magazine (at least the online version) and AP have actually been honest about McCain-Palin recently, which has been quite surprising…
I am very disappointed in MSNBC and won't be watching any of the election coverage by David Gregory. I wonder what his ratings were the other night when they had the forum on where Obama and McBush spoke. I bet they were considerably lower than when Olbermann and Matthews moderated. All I watch on MSNBC now is Countdown and Rachel Maddow.
I think that AP is finally doing their job because they were very embarrassed by how it looked like they had taken a hard right turn. Hopefully they will keep it up. I've also noticed that ABC (surprising) has been calling McBush and Palin on their BS, mostly through Jake Trapper.
So now, Obama and the Democrats and maybe Move-On need to start hitting McCain/Palin with hard-hitting ads that will show the people in this country who they really are and put lie to their claim of being "mavericks"
September 13th, 2008 at 3:27 pmHere’s the newest McCain/Failin’ Palin political ad –> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo
Looks like they’re going after the Crusader Rabbit and Ragland T. Tiger fans . . . and the dead-enders, of course.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:35 pmTwo Presidents named Bush have run up as much national debt as all of the other Presidents combined, which even includes the high Reagan budget deficits. Now that is some record.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:39 pmunplug vampire electronics when not in use.... You have plenty of other devices telling you the time...
September 13th, 2008 at 3:51 pmIt’s beginning to appear to me that this country has grasped but a branch (Obama*Biden) along the way with the avalanche directly behind them which will devour us completely.
September 13th, 2008 at 11:29 am
A couple of thin reeds, indeed...We are SOOOOOOOOO Phuqued!
September 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pmIf someone would plaster this on the front pages of MSM newspapers and websites, the whole inane (insane?) "Drill here, drill now!" issue would be dead in one stroke:
http://www.energychallenge.tv/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/por_sept_8_commentary.jpg
Original source: Minerals Management Service, U.S. Dept. of the Interior.
From this article: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/46554
September 13th, 2008 at 4:42 pmCZ-1 Nice work. I'll bookmark those and use them extensively.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pmI can see Russia from here, so I must be better than the experts.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pmI am a Doctor of Carbonination with a BS, MBBS and hold a PHD in the studies of BS!
September 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pmI have come to the conclusion that if all the people around the world would exhale at a 50% rate, instead of the going rate of 100% we could effectively eliminate half of the problems we have today in regards to the greenhouse gas effect. We would notice the results in only one day!
I know it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks, but we have to start somewhere.
Satirev, I totally appreciate your point of view. Why subject two decent men, Obama and Biden, to the losing proposition of turning our Titanic away from the iceberg(not that there are any left). But putting McCain and Palin in charge would be even worse that giving Bush ANOTHER crack. They are like addicts, they know how to control the world...NOT. And they would fake it and continue a path of destruction while saying "I know how to ..." Fill in the blank: already used are "Find Bin Laden" and "win wars".
Four years are too little to have much impact on the disasterous state of affairs. Obama will take the brunt of the voter's ire because he will not be able to accomplish miracles in the short time before the next campaign cycle. But in reality, yes the repugs should clean up their mess.
September 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pmThis is another example that the "old world jounalism of Murrow, Cronkite and Rather is dead and buried. In the case of the Time Magazine reporter Ms Tumulty, she seems to think the finding out the who, what, where, when and how have been replaced with a steno pad, which she records what ABC said in rebuttle to the complaint of Congressman Kucinich. There is a great disconnect with what happened and the points made by ABC. She asks little of no questions to ABC. She takes what is handed to her and repeats it vebatim and then calls that reporting. I call is stenography. Lida Sohbet sohbet sesli chat Gelinlik Modelleri
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