McCain Loses Fox News: Megyn Kelly Rips McCain Flack For Claiming Obama Would Raise Middle Class Taxes
McCain Loses Fox News: Megyn Kelly Rips McCain Flack For Claiming Obama Would Raise Middle Class Taxes
On Fox News today, host Megyn Kelly called out McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds for the campaign’s lies about Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) tax proposals. “I want to hold you accountable for what McCain is doing,” said Kelly. “Has your candidate gone too far, has he stretched the truth with the voters?”
Bounds initially attempted to dismiss her question, claiming that McCain has simply “gone to great lengths to discuss Barack Obama’s record.” “It is true that during a struggling economy, he proposes raising taxes,” declared Bounds.
“Not on the middle class,” shot back Kelly, noting that “virtually every independent analyst” has said that the McCain campaign is lying:
KELLY: But you guys have suggested he’s going to raise taxes on the middle class and virtually every independent analyst who took a look at that claim said that’s not true. He’ll raise it on people making $200,000 or $250,000, but not the middle class.
Bounds tried to push back by saying that Obama had voted to raise taxes in the past, but Kelly kept pushing Bounds to admit the McCain campaign was lying. “If that’s false, why would John McCain do that, Tucker? Why wouldn’t he just level with the voters?” asked Kelly:
KELLY: Let’s stay on point, I’m not giving him any credit. I’m saying what the independent analysts say. They say that claim is false. And if that’s false, why would John McCain do that Tucker? Why wouldn’t he just level with the voters and say, “look, he’s going to raise taxes on the wealthy or whatever you consider somebody to be making over $250,000, it’s going to have a trickle down effect. That may not be good for the middle class.” But why say he’s going to raise taxes on the middle class when he’s not?
Watch it:
Kelly is right. Independent analysts such as FactCheck.org and PolitiFact have consistently called out the McCain campaign for misrepresenting Obama’s proposals. As the Tax Policy Center notes, Obama will actually cut taxes for the vast majority of Americans.
Even Karl Rove admits that McCain’s ads have gone “one step too far” in stretching the bounds of the truth.
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Who , what , when and why has this clown , Tucker Bounds , ever possessed any credibility whatsoever ?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:09 amOkay... that's it.
The End Times are upon us.
Someone give Darryl a call... the Rapture is approaching.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:09 amI think EVERYONE needs to shut the fcuk up and realize we're ALL going to be paying more taxes thanks to Dumbya.
Hell, even "read my lips, no new taxes" Bushbot I had to raise taxes after Reagan's great deregulation fiascos.
Same story, different (albeit slightly) characters.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:09 amWhen even Karl Rove and Fox News claim that your message consists of transparent lies that aren't fooling anyone, it's time to change the message.
Will McCain heed the advice? No, he probably figures that his poll numbers are up, so it really doesn't matter what he says. It's up to the American people to call him on this (although it's encouraging that the media lapdogs are starting to show some teeth).
September 15th, 2008 at 10:10 amThe cynic in me is working overtime:
September 15th, 2008 at 10:11 amIs Fox thinking that we are headed for the edge of a cliff as a nation, and they would prefer that a Republican not be in office when the calamity occurs over the coming months, so they can blame the Democrat?
You know you've sunk to the lowest of the lows when FuxNews and Rove are calling you a liar.
And finally, Team Obama has come out with the kind of hard-hitting ad we've been waiting for. With money in the war chest, and more coming in every day, Obama, with the help of the DNC and the too silent 527's is going to keep hitting until November.
Now let's see those polls start to move.
PEACE
September 15th, 2008 at 10:11 am... in other words, trickle-down economics means having to bail out companies unregulated greed.
The "trickle" part is the piss running down the consumer's leg after realizing they're financially fcuked, but Chrysler gets a bail out, or Freddie/Fannie, etc...
September 15th, 2008 at 10:12 amShe'll be sent to Gitmo in 5........4.................3.....
September 15th, 2008 at 10:16 amThe whole McCain campaign is one lie after another. Don't think he's 'lost fox' just because they call him on one of many. When all the rebuplican surrogates that they call analysts change their tune, I'll be impressed.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:19 amohhhhh, smack!
Wonder just what the governor/the senator did over the weekend to raise the ire of both Rove and Fox (not, clearly, separate entities).
Bring on the debates.
. . . but first, Sean Hannity will have a glass of sweetened iced tea with the lovely governor and get down to the interview's nitty-gritty: "Really, Governor, they wouldn't be piling on if they didn't believe you're qualified and a threat to their empty campaign... and they've been just as negative in their campaigning as your truthful ads have been."
September 15th, 2008 at 10:19 amIndependent analysts such as FactCheck.org and PolitiFact have consistently called out the McCain campaign for misrepresenting Obama’s proposals.
- - But then, Karl Rove has said those two organizations have their built-in bias. Isn't this election really just CircleJerk '08?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:20 amThe whole McCain campaign is one lie after another. Don’t think he’s ‘lost fox’ just because they call him on one of many.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:21 amKELLY: But why say he’s going to raise taxes on the middle class when he’s not?
Isn't it obvious , Megyn ?
That's why they're R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S ; they're completely full of shit.....
September 15th, 2008 at 10:22 amMiss Kelly may soon get the opportunity to spend more time with her family...
September 15th, 2008 at 10:22 amPatty Says:
... but first, Sean Hannity will have a glass of sweetened iced tea with the lovely governor and get down to the interview’s nitty-gritty...
__________
Perhaps Sean can give Sarah some tips on wearing makeup for the camera... which shades of lip gloss look good under those harsh lights...
September 15th, 2008 at 10:23 amI'm shocked! Will Kelly be looking for work? Is her resume circulating?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:24 amWeather report: scattered snow showers in Hell this AM.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:25 amGood morning, satirev. :)
I guess I've lost my faith in the American character -- especially after the last 8 years. I hope you're right!
September 15th, 2008 at 10:29 amYou know you are screwed when Fox News calls you out
September 15th, 2008 at 10:29 amDoes anyone have any info on this Tucker Bounds bozo ?
It seems I can't find out anything about him , even using a Google search ...........
September 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amHow are the FOX Fans supposed to process a GOP flack being nailed dead-to-rights on the GOP's home turf?
And how quickly will Tucker Bounds add Megyn Kelly to the McCain media-enemies list?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amThe conclusion has been reached. The cost/benefit analysis has been done. McCain would be bad for business.
Laissez faire is fine until the goose is dead and then what difference does it make how much freedom you have to plunder and pillage. Raping a dead goose is no fun. And the governments ability to bail out corporate f'ups has ended so it's time to reexamine the situation. They need a Dem to come in and run the gov't right for awhile so they can have something to f**k over again. Right now more of the same will start to hurt even those who consider themselves above the fray.
And that my friends is unacceptable.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amHate to be a killjoy (although it IS monday...), but so what if Faux Noise caught the McSame/Miss Piggy campaign in another lie? The sheeple out there simply don't care -- that's why they keep running the ads touting Miss Piggy as a "maverick" for "ending the bridge to nowhere", when every media organization and even reich-wing pundits have said that's an outright lie.
The repugs simply don't care that they're being caught in their lies, because they continue to believe the worst about the American voter -- that voters not only can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but that they don't want to know the difference... The sad thing is, the repugs are probably correct on that...
September 15th, 2008 at 10:32 amhuh... maybe obama's meeting with ailes/fox to work out the oLIElly details had some positive benefits... ya think?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am5th Estate Says: . . .And how quickly will Tucker Bounds add Megyn Kelly to the McCain media-enemies list?
No more cushy leather seat on Mrs. McCain's plane!
September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 amHmmm, Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros., AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, & Washington Mutual are just 'whiners', according to McLiars econ guru, P. Gramm.
Will Slanthead Hannity 'drill' Palin? Not!
September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 amTucker Bounds (what kind of name is that anyway?) gets smacked down again. Wonder if McCain will now cancel Fox interviews.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:34 amMcNumbNuts/Failin' Palin = Unstable/Unable
I don't think there is much chance that their image and reputation can be rehabilitated after this past week.
Little Seanie Hannity will try mightily, I am sure, but even he will walk away from his interview with Sarah today privately muttering to himself, "another airhead . . . when are the republicans going to give me something to work with?".
September 15th, 2008 at 10:34 amLiving in a redneck bible-belt state, I have noticed that many conservatives have stopped noticing Barack Obama's skin color as much as they initially did.
And, once they can see past their racism, really, they are no longer able to deny that Obama is better for America than McCain, who truly represents four more years of Bush.
Even the military supports Obama more than McCain.
The polls are dead wrong.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:34 amMCM: Does anyone have any info on this Tucker Bounds bozo
I tried looking him up when he floated that crap about Obama being an elitist when he was on vacation in Hawaii and I couldn;t find a damn thing about his background then.
He's too young to have done anything other than be a College Republican, is my guess.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:36 amMcMetal-Tucker Bounds is the former spokesman for the RNC.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:36 am-nuff said
This is the time for a bold ad and message. Do a major ad buy and a long ad that goes through the most blatant lies of the McCain campaign using FOX and other conservative news program clips where possible. Then have the simple question asked: ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILLING TO VOTE FOR A PRESIDENT WHO KNOWINGLY, OUTRAGEOUSLY AND CONSISTENTLY LIES TO THEM?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:37 am*GASP* You mean McCain.....LIED!?!?!? It's nice to see some people are finally starting to report this openly, and when it's a comin from your own side you know you're in trouble.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:40 amFox News just solved the global warming problem: Hell froze over.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:41 amApparently, Tucker Bounds has been a campaign spokesman for both Bush/Cheney AND McCain going back to at least 1985. Do a Google News search for "Tucker Bounds" & RNC and you'll find that both Bush and McCain have passed him back and forth like Jeff Gannon at a private party at the White House!
September 15th, 2008 at 10:42 amThe Dogfather Says: Hate to be a killjoy (although it IS monday…), but so what if Faux Noise caught the McSame/Miss Piggy campaign in another lie?
I think it does make a difference - save the retarded 23%ers who would still vote for McCain even if he killed their mother right in front of them.
And, as we know, McCain can't win with only 23% of the vote.
There are a lot of undecided peple, or those who are on the fence. I think this kind of coverage is starting to make them see McCain and his girlfriend a little differently than they did two weeks ago. I see it in the comments sections of the MSM. Many conservatives are now giving $ to Obama (he did pick up 5000,000 new supporters in August).
And, even if FOX Noise telling the truth doesn't help, it certainly doesn't hurt.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:42 amARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILLING TO VOTE FOR A PRESIDENT WHO KNOWINGLY, OUTRAGEOUSLY AND CONSISTENTLY LIES TO THEM?
McNumbNuts -- he's the "feel-good" candidate of the season --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4KY39jLdu4
More BS. "Economy is fundamentally sound. . . We will clean up Wall Street. . . so this will never happen again." Where have you and your friends Phil Gramm, et. al., been for the past two decades?
Sorry, Johnny. We're going to clean up . . . time for you to go home(s).
September 15th, 2008 at 10:45 amI wonder what their plan is? No way is this for nothing, there's something stinky here.
Maybe it's to give them the needed cover to pretend to be unbiased in order to go after obama STRONGLY over his last ads?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:46 amOr amybe it's just to give them cover when the major league rich swiftboaters from TX attack this week.
What the Religious Right doesn't get, and never will, is that the Republicans have royally pissed off corporate America. it has always been an uneasy alliance between corporate America and the wacko religious types but the theocrats have taken over and killed the economy. They did the worst thing possible . . . they cost Corporate America a ton of money. And corporate America is slowly but surely backing the Dems. No way the Dems lose in November. Every corporate type republican with whom I speak is TERRIFIED of a McCain/Palin Administration. I can't tell you the number of times I have heard sentences like "I never thought I would ever vote for a Dem but . . . "
September 15th, 2008 at 10:47 amWhat? fox News challenged a McCain spokesman?
I must still be asleep, dreaming. Or I fell through some sort of looking glass. ..
September 15th, 2008 at 10:48 amI just found this on Bounds ( he's from Hermiston, Oregon):
"He grew up steeped in politics. His family has long been prominent in civic circles in Hermiston, and an older sister, Larissa Bounds, is a longtime congressional aide. Tucker Bounds, who at 6 feet 4 towers over many people, also interned in Walden's office and later worked for Smith.
After his stint with the Bush campaign, he worked for the Republican National Committee and wangled his way onto the McCain campaign in 2007. After the campaign's implosion that summer, he went to work for the American Insurance Association, thinking he was done with campaign politics for a while. "
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2008/08/dynamic_duck_duo_help_propel_m.html
He worked for Bush in Oregon in 2004, so he was 25 then.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:51 amunbelievable Says: There are a lot of undecided peple, or those who are on the fence. I think this kind of coverage is starting to make them see McCain and his girlfriend a little differently than they did two weeks ago.
Here's hoping you're right, unbelievable. I'd like to believe that scenario, and converting the undecideds is certainly what we're all about right now -- but after the last two general elections, my faith in the undecideds in the voting public is a bit low right now...
But I agree that what needs to happen is saturation of the airwaves, the newsprint and the internet with the facts about the untruths of the McSame campaign. Or, to borrow from the old adage, "There's three kinds of lies -- Lies, Damned Lies, and McCain ads...".
September 15th, 2008 at 10:53 amsatirev Says: Unbelievable - Hi! Yes the polls are rigged so I no longer believe any of them.
I read a great editorial on how the Palin 'bounce' doesn't matter, the numbers do, meaning state-by-state electoral numbers, in which Obama is well ahead. The media hides those while trying to show it's unbiased by combining four Republican polls together, even though those polls say that they poll 41% Republicans and 40% Democrats, while there are 11 million more Democrats thn Republicans registered.
The article pointed out the number of new younger voters (much higher than in 2004 due to the coming of age of some of the 'echo boomers'), the increase in black paricipation over 2004, as well as the passing of of the senior baton from staunch conservatives, to moderates who voted for slightly more for Kerry over Bush in 2004. The demographics are in Obama's favor, regardless of how Gallup and Newsweek pad their silly little polls with Republicans.
In fact, if the race is this close with more Republicans being polled, I don't think I'd announce it nationally if I were them....
September 15th, 2008 at 10:53 amA Patriot Acting: since 1985"
ooh don't think so. He's 29.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:55 amEven Karl Rove admits that McCain’s ads have gone “one step too far” in stretching the bounds of the truth.
You know you have honesty issues when Karl Rove is calling you a liar. But like Bush before him, McCain won't back off because it turns out what he's saying isn't true, nor will he back off because his own party is calling him a liar, McCain will back off only when his lies no longer resonate with voters.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
September 15th, 2008 at 10:59 amThe Dogfather Says: Here’s hoping you’re right, unbelievable. I’d like to believe that scenario, and converting the undecideds is certainly what we’re all about right now — but after the last two general elections, my faith in the undecideds in the voting public is a bit low right now…
In early SEpetmber, I saw a group of undecided voters being 'sold' by Frank Luntz in one of his pro-Republican market 'study groups'. Despite his best efforts to sway them to McCain, in the end, only 8 brought the propaganda, while 16 rejected it and favred Obama (he even started out with an equal number of leaning for each candidate).
Most of the Cons I know either think McCain is scary or have stopped defending him and refuse to discuss politics. Short of another steal, I don't see how he can win.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:00 amGive that woman a raise, AND send her flowers! About time somwbody over there started doing their job! Seeing as every right winger in the country thinks FOX is gospel, about time they heard the truth! Good for her...she probably lost her job.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:01 amconsistently called out the McCain campaign for misrepresenting
Ok TP, do you also lack the gene to call a lie a lie. They are not "misrepresenting" Obama's policy, they are lying about Obama's policy.
Kelly didn't stray too far off the ranch. She did make that little dig about the interfering with the "trickle down" effect might not be good for the middle class. I ask Ms. Kelly, "So how's that trickle down affect helping the middle class now"? I haven't seen any help to the middle class that is being pushed down to the poverty level. If giving tax relief to the very rich really worked to create a "trickle down" affect, we would not be in this recession we are in now.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:04 am5th Estate Says:
And how quickly will Tucker Bounds add Megyn Kelly to the McCain media-enemies list?
I'm betting they aren't going to let her anywhere near the bus.
What I am hoping is that the MSM has seen the handwriting on the wall. The Internet is making them more and more irrelevant every day. If they want to continue to make money, they are going to have to become more relevant to the educated masses. There aren't enough "low-information" people out there to sustain their profits.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:10 am5th Estate-
I was going by this Google search:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22TUCKER+BOUNDS%
22+rnc&hl=en&sa=N&sugg=d&as_user_hdate=2004
scroll down to the two links from 1985 from the Grand Junction Sentinel
The links appear to take you to a page without content, suggesting you search their archives. Doing this is mute as their archives seem to go back only as far as 2004
Your probably correct, though. He's way too young to have been involved that far back.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:15 amWow! When Faux Snooze calls you on your BS, you know it's deep...
PS. invest every dime you have in Hip wader factories
September 15th, 2008 at 11:16 amFox isn't guarding the GOOP coop anymore?
September 15th, 2008 at 11:19 amDoes than mean Palin will cancel her love-in with Hannity?
satirev Says: It’s pretty funny actually to watch them scramble to find a technique that works for them - while silently acknowledging to all of us their “achilles heel”.
I truly think they thought they would fool us again, and underestimated that the internet grassroots that started just a few years ago has grown into such a political Revolution that is so formidable that we are even influencing the MSM...
If they steal another election, expect them to kill the internet.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:20 amThat is great news that someone called Bullsh*t on that McCain lackey. But I am both surprsed and dismayed that it is a Fox News host that did so. Surprised because you expect Fox to tow the GOP line, and dismayed because no other network hosts have done so.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:20 amNotes: Data are weighted so that sample demographics match Census Current Population Survey parameters for gender,
age, education, race, region, and population density.
Results based on smaller subgroups are subject to larger margins of sampling error. Sample size and margins of error for
these subgroups are included in a separate methodology statement.
Herein lies the problem with the polls. This is the last Newsweek poll. In the past these notations used to have a section on how the poll was weighted for voter registration. Those notations seemed to have disappeared after the Republican convention.
I suspect that they are soon going to go back to interviewing 10% more Democrats than Republicans like they did in the past because if they keep this up until the election, they are going to make themselves relevant. Imagine what would happen if the polls say they are neck and neck and the election is a landslide for Obama.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:22 amI guess Kelly didn't like being booted off the straight lie express.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:23 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says: Imagine what would happen if the polls say they are neck and neck and the election is a landslide for Obama.
Oh, I do... I most definitely do :)
September 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amI wonder....
Could it be that Sarah Palin scares the bejeezus out of even the guys at Fox News?"
I mean it's one thing to push a somewhat hawkish agenda, but when someone actually advocates fighting a war with RUSSIA!!, maybe that's going just a little bit too far.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:35 amHow crap! The Earth is beginning to move backwards ... Fox News broke from the GOP talking points! Even for just a few minutes!! OMG
September 15th, 2008 at 11:58 am9. MisshusseinMolly
Unfortunately, the system will only let me add one Karma point to your post.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pmWith the collaspe of the market...I'm sure all these newscasters have plenty of money invested in the stock market...Well I guess they are witnessing there investments decline to nothing. So much for the free market. You see...when the one's who were screwing start getting screwed...the truth will come out and it's coming big time. Even the people making $250k don't want to get screwed anymore.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pmFaux Noise just got the memo that McCain is SUPPOSE to lose. The RNC was throwing McCain a bone for getting boned in 2000 by the Bush slime machine. When the RNC chose Palin and the idiot right went nuts it blew up on them. The RNC wants to heap all the blame on Obama and the Democrats for the Bush/Cheney debacle and try to send the Democrats into the wilderness in 2012. They will take a short term loss to steal control. Look how long they have worked in destroying the Constitution, Medicare and Social Security to name just three. The RNC is looking at their play book on their recovery from Nixon/Agnew/Ford by blaming Carter for everything (not just what Carter messed up) which allowed Reagan to start the comeback a lot quicker than it would have been.
Come up with the most devious plan you can, multiply by 100, then add more slime and you will be getting close to the RNC starting point on this. Am I paranoid? Maybe, but that does not mean what I say is not on track.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pmWow. I hear that a Kool-Aid addiction is tougher to break than crack...
September 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pmI've noticed a very gradual shift with some of the Faux folks. Perhaps they see the writing on the wall is in blue ink now instead of red, and are all about honesty if it saves their careers. It will be interesting to see if the ratings will rise or fall.
September 15th, 2008 at 1:56 pmIntegrity in news. What a concept!
September 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pmSurely this must mean that April has come back again and that Hell is rather bloody cold right now?
September 15th, 2008 at 4:22 pmDictionary: Megyn Kelly. To pull a 'Megyn Kelly', is to end your career. Example: "Bob pulled a Megyn Kelly yesterday when he told the boss what an ass he was."
September 15th, 2008 at 4:51 pmJust to make it clear re: #77, I want McCain/Palin and the Republicans to lose and lose big. I also want to make sure Obama/Biden and the Democrats keep it in the public view that it was the Republicans that put us in this mess and it is the Republicans that caused and are causing the pain. Republicans cannot be allowed to form the message.
September 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pmThere's a Fox News Reporter who clearly doesn't want her job anymore. But.. who could blame her.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:55 pmKelly will probably get sent to Nome, AK as the morning anchor for being this tough on a Republican.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pmObama was smart to refrain from the mudslinging match. Now McCain's camp has hurled so many bald-faced lies, that everyone is losing count.
The lies are so transparent, that even the Fox drones have to admit they're lies. Now it would do well if Obama would attack McCain on the substantive issues, and also on McCain's willingness to lie shamelessly and unrepentantly to his own fellow citizens.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:12 pmHave you not seen this before? Look for Tucker to the fall Libby-style...Fox never gives more than they take. McCain will force him to resign, blame Tucker for his nuttjob campaign even though "I'm John McCain and I approve this message" and at the same time, take the media's attention away from the Palin disaster. Sound familiar? Can someone tell me why the f*!$ Rove is not in jail for treason?
When they point up at sky and you look, I'll be the a!&hole waiting to tell you your wallet's gone.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:58 pmI think Tucker is going to be out of a job soon -- though who will McCain get?
September 16th, 2008 at 5:31 pmI had heared about that Kelly is looking for job, i am shoked about this but i cant fous on kelly atm because my focus is on passing my 70-293 which is for Planning and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure and colud be help ful in 70-649 leads to MCSE. on the other hand i am spotlighting on 70-646 to complete my Microsoft certifiaction of MCITP (Server 2008).
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:01 am