Comments on: McCain redefines the ‘fundamentals’ of the economy as the ‘American worker.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:02:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: hodger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230836 hodger Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:15:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230836 McCain's video just begs the question on what planet seasonal agricultural workers are paid $50 an hour? McCain’s video just begs the question on what planet seasonal agricultural workers are paid $50 an hour?

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230486 Bad Eye Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:57:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230486 Oh really? We just had a small business (locally-owned restaurant) down the road from where I live close about a month ago, citing the ever rising costs of doing business. It had been open about 6 months. McCain can stick his fundamentals where the sun don't shine. Oh really? We just had a small business (locally-owned restaurant) down the road from where I live close about a month ago, citing the ever rising costs of doing business. It had been open about 6 months.

McCain can stick his fundamentals where the sun don’t shine.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230308 joe cantwell Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:44:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230308 hey tracy_5 how'd you like to be the next republican candidate for vice-president? * you're not qualified and you're good at lying. * good luck. :) hey tracy_5 how’d

you like to be the next republican

candidate for vice-president?

*

you’re not qualified

and you’re good at lying.

*

good luck.

:)

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230306 joe cantwell Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:40:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230306 drill, drill, drill. that'll fix everything. # drill, drill, drill.

that’ll fix everything.

#

]]> By: bjhunt http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230230 bjhunt Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:21:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230230 Somebody needs to ask McCain whether "the fundamentals" of the economy were strong in, say, 1932. He really can't say yes without discrediting himself completely in the eyes of anyone who has ever heard of the Great Depression, and he can't say no without dissing the American workers of the 1930s, who as far as I can tell had just as much drive and character as people do today. No way out of this one, John. And the fact that the latest news out of Wall Street makes it look like we may be heading for another crash doesn't exactly help his credibility, either. Somebody needs to ask McCain whether “the fundamentals” of the economy were strong in, say, 1932. He really can’t say yes without discrediting himself completely in the eyes of anyone who has ever heard of the Great Depression, and he can’t say no without dissing the American workers of the 1930s, who as far as I can tell had just as much drive and character as people do today. No way out of this one, John. And the fact that the latest news out of Wall Street makes it look like we may be heading for another crash doesn’t exactly help his credibility, either.

]]> By: stateofthedivision http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5230032 stateofthedivision Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:39:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5230032 Sorry Tracy, the problem originated in America with financial innovation, much of it securitized mortgage obligations. The Wall Street investment houses packaged these things, rating agencies marked them Triple A (high grade), and worldwide institutions purchased them. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guaranteed mortgages as well as sold bonds to finance home lending. Now the highly leveraged house of cards is falling apart, with amazing speed and deadly consequences. We created the mortgage securitization industry which collapsed and sent the world into a tailspin. Of course, high energy prices are putting a deeper chink in the armor of the world's economy. But Western oil companies are making out like bandits. Sorry Tracy, the problem originated in America with financial innovation, much of it securitized mortgage obligations. The Wall Street investment houses packaged these things, rating agencies marked them Triple A (high grade), and worldwide institutions purchased them.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guaranteed mortgages as well as sold bonds to finance home lending.

Now the highly leveraged house of cards is falling apart, with amazing speed and deadly consequences. We created the mortgage securitization industry which collapsed and sent the world into a tailspin.

Of course, high energy prices are putting a deeper chink in the armor of the world’s economy. But Western oil companies are making out like bandits.

]]> By: chiefeditor http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229958 chiefeditor Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:18:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229958 Doesn't really erase <a href="http://www.entertonement.com/clips/25923/John-McCain/John-McCain-On-Economy/McCain-Say-Economy-Is-All-Good/Fundamentals-are-still-strong" rel="nofollow">this</a>, though, does it? Doesn’t really erase this, though, does it?

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229746 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:25:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229746 tracy.....you still here? here's a link of mccain trashing American workers and don't forget their comments about how Americans are whiners, etc. <a href="http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/mccain-furiously-backpedals-on.html" rel="nofollow">mccain trashes American workers</a> tracy…..you still here? here’s a link of mccain trashing American workers and don’t forget their comments about how Americans are whiners, etc.

mccain trashes American workers

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229610 dbadass Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:42:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229610 I don't buy the myth that US citizens are any harder working innovative or entrepreneurial than any other human beings. I don’t buy the myth that US citizens are any harder working innovative or entrepreneurial than any other human beings.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229592 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:39:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229592 tracy, I'll be back later tonight to post after you so you won't get the last word. tracy, I’ll be back later tonight to post after you so you won’t get the last word.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229588 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:36:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229588 Tracy__5 Says: ho hum Tracy__5 Says:

ho hum

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229528 Doc Rock Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:22:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229528 McCain is partially correct--it is the screwed up managements' and look-the-other-way Cheney-Bush Administration government regulators' fault! McCain is partially correct–it is the screwed up managements’ and look-the-other-way Cheney-Bush Administration government regulators’ fault!

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229518 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:18:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229518 Flag tracy and let's move on. Maybe TP will have mercy on us and remove this scab from our skin. Come back and see us when you're 6 or maybe 666. Flag tracy and let’s move on. Maybe TP will have mercy on us and remove this scab from our skin.

Come back and see us when you’re 6 or maybe 666.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229516 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:17:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229516 <blockquote>Tracy__5 Says: “This is the first time he has ever mentioned workers or small business in regard to “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”.” So? The two are connected i.e. the fundamentals of the economy in regards to small business and workers.</blockquote> Last time I engage you today. They are not connected. The economy cannot survive on labor and small business alone. If our economy tanks from above as it is doing now, no amount of wishing and hoping will save us. Small business will collapse too and labor will be long unemployment lines. We are already seeing this. They are not connected. they are just affected. It's a lie, a ruse, you know, something you could believe in.

Tracy__5 Says:
“This is the first time he has ever mentioned workers or small business in regard to “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”.”

So? The two are connected i.e. the fundamentals of the economy in regards to small business and workers.

Last time I engage you today. They are not connected. The economy cannot survive on labor and small business alone.

If our economy tanks from above as it is doing now, no amount of wishing and hoping will save us. Small business will collapse too and labor will be long unemployment lines. We are already seeing this.

They are not connected. they are just affected. It’s a lie, a ruse, you know, something you could believe in.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229498 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229498 by the way tracy, even when you post a link it's weak. There is no mention of any country other than the US in your own link. Annie is right about you. You would forget to breath if you had to do it on your own. by the way tracy, even when you post a link it’s weak. There is no mention of any country other than the US in your own link. Annie is right about you. You would forget to breath if you had to do it on your own.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229492 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:11:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229492 <blockquote>Tracy__5 Says: What is going on is that the investment banks made bad loans AROUND the world.</blockquote> Bullshit, their economies are affected by ours but they are not the ones causing the world economic turmoil, we are, alone. Get your facts straight before posting such crap.

Tracy__5 Says:
What is going on is that the investment banks made bad loans AROUND the world.

Bullshit, their economies are affected by ours but they are not the ones causing the world economic turmoil, we are, alone.

Get your facts straight before posting such crap.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229482 Leftside Annie Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:06:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229482 Tracy: you're truly stupid, and I feel sorry for you. I really do. Tracy: you’re truly stupid, and I feel sorry for you.

I really do.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229442 Fred Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:55:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229442 <blockquote>Tracy__5 Says: McCain has not “redefined” the fundementals of the economy as the workers and small business. He has always pointed out that the American workers and small businesses are the backbone of the U.S. economy…unless you have something to the contrary.</blockquote> just do a google, you do know how don't you. This is the first time he has ever mentioned workers or small business in regard to "the fundamentals of the economy are strong". Just because you want to be stupid don't expect me to dance with you. In addition, don't you feel kinda silly defending them? The dow is at 10968, close to where it was when Clinton left office. Does that spell stability and strength to you? If so then you need to take kindergarden again.

Tracy__5 Says:
McCain has not “redefined” the fundementals of the economy as the workers and small business. He has always pointed out that the American workers and small businesses are the backbone of the U.S. economy…unless you have something to the contrary.

just do a google, you do know how don’t you. This is the first time he has ever mentioned workers or small business in regard to “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”.

Just because you want to be stupid don’t expect me to dance with you.

In addition, don’t you feel kinda silly defending them? The dow is at 10968, close to where it was when Clinton left office. Does that spell stability and strength to you? If so then you need to take kindergarden again.

]]> By: desertflower1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229430 desertflower1 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:53:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229430 http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9718_mccain_lehman_crisis_gramm.html Pretty damning article!! McCain in Florida "forgot to mention" that his friend and advisor, Phil Gramm was to blame for all this mess...read the article:) Now the bast#$% is lying by ommission! It would be like a bad comedy routine, if it wasn't so gravely serious. http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9718_mccain_lehman_crisis_gramm.html Pretty damning article!! McCain in Florida “forgot to mention” that his friend and advisor, Phil Gramm was to blame for all this mess…read the article:) Now the bast#$% is lying by ommission! It would be like a bad comedy routine, if it wasn’t so gravely serious.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/comment-page-2/#comment-5229380 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:34:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamental-workers/#comment-5229380 <em>Mr. Evil Says: With all that we know about McCain and his economic toadie, Phil Gramm, how is it that every poll has McCain at about 45%? How can he be in a virtual tie with Obama? Are the people in this country simply that stupid?</em> No..no...no. They are NOT tied. The polling companies no longer post data on who they interview. They used to interview significantly more Democrats than Republicans because there are 12% more registered Democrats than Republicans in this country. It is believed that they are now polling equal numbers. That means 10-12% of Obama's support has evaporated because they are cooking the books on the polls. I do expect for them to stop doing that soon because it is starting to look really suspect. And if, they do it right up to the election and Obama wins by a landslide, the polling companies will have marginalized themselves. Mr. Evil Says:
With all that we know about McCain and his economic toadie, Phil Gramm, how is it that every poll has McCain at about 45%? How can he be in a virtual tie with Obama? Are the people in this country simply that stupid?

No..no…no. They are NOT tied. The polling companies no longer post data on who they interview. They used to interview significantly more Democrats than Republicans because there are 12% more registered Democrats than Republicans in this country. It is believed that they are now polling equal numbers. That means 10-12% of Obama’s support has evaporated because they are cooking the books on the polls. I do expect for them to stop doing that soon because it is starting to look really suspect. And if, they do it right up to the election and Obama wins by a landslide, the polling companies will have marginalized themselves.

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