Fiorina clarifies: ‘I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.’
Fiorina clarifies: ‘I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.’
Earlier today, McCain spokeswoman Carly Fiorina told a St. Louis radio program that Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) was not qualified to run a business. This afternoon, she reiterated her comments on MSNBC, this time clarifying that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) — or any other presidential candidate — couldn’t run a major corporation either. Watch it:
Fiorina said that “it’s a fallacy” to compare the presidency to running a company, and thus McCain’s inability to run a corporation shouldn’t matter. Similarly, this morning campaign spokesman Douglas Holtz-Eakin seemed to suggest that McCain’s understanding of the economy was not important, since he’s “not running to be treasury secretary.”
Transcript:
FIORINA: Well I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand, a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States. It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company. So of course, to run a business, you have to have a lifetime of experience in business. But that’s not what Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama are doing.
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So, she can’t run a corporation either. Why does anyone listen to what this woman has to say? And why is she saying it. I guess she’s lobbying for a job in the McCain administration if, god forbid, he was to be elected.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:36 pm“Ms. Fiorina will be suspending her relationship with the McCain campaign in order to spend more time with her family.”
PEACE
September 16th, 2008 at 2:36 pmFiorina clarifies: ‘I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.’
And neither could you , obviously ; so how does that make the wrinkled old liar qualified to run the country in any way ?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pmLemme get this straight — it’s not necessary for the President or the Vice President to be able to run anything because they will have underlings to do that?
For the past eight years, we have had a puppet president, and everybody knows it. But this is the first time that I’m hearing Republicans actually admit this is all the job should be.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pmFiorina clarifies: ‘I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.’
I don’t think he could run a bath.
PEACE
September 16th, 2008 at 2:39 pmIs it just me or does it look like the whole McDepends campaign is in full self-destruction mode?
I think all we have to do is just sit back and let them implode on their own!
September 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pmWell, I guess that brings to an end the era of “let’s run government like a business.”
September 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pmHello Carly!! did you not read the memo HP sent to you…You apparently can’t run a corporation either. Which begs the question, why on earth are you advising McCain, on anything? Why are you even getting air time? These people make my ears bleed, the amout of BS they can shovel and not even be fazed by their lies and self righteousness. Country First My Ass!
September 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pmspencers mom Says:
“Ms. Fiorina will be suspending her relationship with the McCain campaign in order to spend more time with her family.”
You are just too quick – that was my first thought when I read this post…followed by, “Ms. Fiorina does not speak for the McCain campaign.”
Pay no attention to the idiots behind the curtain.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pmJust like any normal mortal human, Carly can’t keep all the different lines of BS straight and all McSame’s campaign is running on is old Republican garbage. Too many spins going at the same time.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pmLest we forget, Fiorina had paid spies spying on her own employees at HP. Talk about a homegrown NSA program, eh?
Carli lies for a living, & has done quite well, thank you.
The inherent hurdle to lying is you have to remember every detail of every lie you ever told.
Now McLiesalot is reaching critical mass with the volumes of lies he has to remember.
Is Las Vegas running odds on when he melts down?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pmFiorina clarifies: ‘I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.’
Nor could you , but that obviously hasn’t stopped you from running your stupid mouth ………………
September 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pmGood lord, I know you all want them to implode, but unfortunately they aren’t going to. The way things go, they’ll probably win anyway.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pmRunning the federal government is simpler than running a major corporation. Let me get the subtext: “President’s do not need to be capable of running anything, they just need to know who their corporate masters are and do what they are told.”
September 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pmYou can’t criticize Fiorina! That’s sexist!
And if anyone would know for a fact who is and is not qualified to run a company, that would be Ms. Fiorina. She has personal, high-level hands-on experience with THAT talking point.
Pure Comedy GOLD, baby!
September 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pmOMG
September 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pmShe will have to take a few days off the campaign, say that she was misquoted, misinterpreted, and then finally admit she misspoke and would step down. Then a week from now, she will be back on the campaign as if nothing had happened.
Isn’t that what happened to Gramm?
The Soviet Union should have taught us that no one person, no group of people, no matter how scientifically trained, can arbitrarily set prices and not expect economic havoc. Why do we assume any administration can ‘run an economy’. The economy is suppose to be run by entrepreneurs, financed by savings, and regulated by the government.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pmWell at least for once the figure in the McCain campaign who is denounced as “not speaking for the McCain campaign” will be an advisor, and not McCain himself.
So that’s a step forward for them.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:53 pmThis is what happens when you have to keep track of multiple lies and spins. McCain has so much doo-doo floating around, some of it is bound to fall on some of his own people.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:56 pmToday it was Fiorina’s turn
The McCain campaign, appealing dearly to the top 1%, won’t like her comments. How can you be the party of government for the rich when you have no experience working for the snobbiest, wealthiest clients?
Any government that promotes the general welfare flies in the face of reason.
***SNARK***
September 16th, 2008 at 2:57 pmIIRC, HP’s stock price jumped seven percent when news of her firing leaked. The market speaks.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pmDaddy-O Says:
You can’t criticize Fiorina! That’s sexist!
Not at all sexist – Carly’s not really a woman. (Have you seen that Adam’s apple?)
I mean, has anyone seen Martin Short recently – I am beginning to think this is just another one of his annoying characters, like Jiminy Glick.
And he’s just having a good yank, right?
*crickets*
September 16th, 2008 at 3:00 pmCrap. I don’t think McHoover could run a friggin’ hotdog stand…
September 16th, 2008 at 3:00 pmMCMetal,
I was going to say, “Well, if anybody should know about not being able to run a major corporation…”
September 16th, 2008 at 3:00 pmOkay. Now let me see if I understand this. McNumbNuts doesn’t need to have experience — he can just “hire” the right people to run various aspects of the government. So we should no longer be concerned about (1) Obama’s “lack of experience” or (2) Mrs. Palin’s “vast executive experience” as Princess of Wasilla and Iron Maiden of Alaska. Okay, Carly.
By the way, Carly. I am sending you an extra shovel. That way, you’ll be able to dig that hole you’re in twice as fast.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pmjohnfive Says:
The Soviet Union should have taught us that no one person, no group of people, no matter how scientifically trained, can arbitrarily set prices and not expect economic havoc. Why do we assume any administration can ‘run an economy’.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
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Who is talking about “arbitrarily setting prices?” Nobody here. Nobody in either campaign. We don’t want a planned economy, just one that’s regulated and boosted by good fiscal policy and a competent government.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pmHey Fiorina – Dick Cheney ran a Fortune 500 Company after spending his entire adult life as a DC politician.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pmBoy, we just need to buy air time for this woman to talk. She is single handedly beating the bejesus out of mccain/palin
September 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pmAnd, damn, if that didn’t work out really, really well for those stockholders, huh?
September 16th, 2008 at 3:07 pmJeesh, after listening to her it is no wonder HP is in the toilet. What a train wreck. Says something stupid, then eclipses it with something even stupider.
Carly, here’s a helpful tip: Engage brain before operating mouth.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:10 pmOh dear. I thought watching Carly was depressing, until I read these comments. Everyone seems to be right in their own right. Carly can’t run a big rig, either and HP proved that. She is not running out of political capital: she never had any and has been living on the borrowed type that just crashed Wall Street. My ears are bleeding, too, and hypocrisy has reached new levels. I simply do not understand why anyone gives this airhead any air time. And whoever said she would step down as Ms. MsSpoke and reappear only days later with a new halo was absolutely correct. Is she sleeping with Phil Gramm?
September 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pmone thing is perfectly clear, Big Liar John can’t run a campaign – he surrounds himself with idiots. Just think what that means for the Cabinet were he to become POTUS.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:16 pmTired of being lied to Says:
Carly, here’s a helpful tip: Engage brain before operating mouth.
Without removing both feet from her mouth first, that won’t work.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:17 pmWell, kudos to Carly for proving Steve Martin right when he said, “I believe the Republican party can return this great country to what it once was, a barren wasteland covered with ice.”
September 16th, 2008 at 3:18 pmImpeach Palin, Pelosi, Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
I noticed last night on the cable news channels that they are really starting to point out the outright lies that McGonnaDieSoon and Caribou Nazi Barbie are telling.
I had almost lost hope of them pointing out the lies these scum bag, fascist, mafiaoso, repukians are telling.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:23 pmFiorina is just establishing her bona fides for running for president in 2112…She couldn’t run a company either..which is why she was booted from Hewlett Packard
September 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pmAt the very least both campaigns will allow an arbitrarily set federal funds rate, the rate at which banks in the Federal Reserve System loan funds to each other. By setting this rate the Federal Reserve inhibits the actions of market participants coming together to determine a market interest rate. The Federal Reserve and the federal government do not deign to interfere in setting the price of houses, the interest rate on mortgages, or the prices of wood and steel. The Fed’s actions in setting the federal funds rate however, because it reflects the price of money to a borrower and thus affects demand for money, affects prices throughout the economy in a manner less pervasive but just as damaging as direct price controls.
NEITHER campaign will even discuss restoring the power to set market interest rates back to the people. Instead it will be set by unelected central bankers – a Fascist’s dream. You can thank the duopoly that is the democrat AND republican party.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pmThe major lesson from the Cheney/bush years: A president doesn’t need to know anything. Just sign the papers.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pmThis is just becoming too comical! You can’t write this stuff!
September 16th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThere are just too many holes appearing in McCain’s dyke every day and not enough fingers to plug them.
Hmmmm… it just occurred to me, was that sexist?
It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company.
Carly Fiorina
Okay, now square that claim with the whole ‘first MBA President’ line from the 2000 election cycle. Oops, can’t – can you? Your bad.
@johnfive: …the economy is supposed to be run by entrepreneurs, financed by savings, and regulated by the government.
Well said, and absolutely correct. Unfortunately for the trolls, you did not take the extra time to point out that two of the three legs—savings, and government regulation—are nearly non-existent in the current business environment. So, they will have a tough time applying your observation to the current meltdown.
Hey, remember ‘privatized’ social security accounts? Now there was one hell of an idea! It’s bad enough watching 401.k contributions and earnings melt away. Can you imagine privatized social security?
September 16th, 2008 at 3:39 pmTracy__5 Says: #44
Then why does the government waste time with legislation governing how companies conduct business in this country? Or maybe he meant to say ‘ruin.’ You know, the word that will forever be a footnote whenever Phil Gramm’s name appears in print.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:41 pm““it’s a fallacy” to compare the presidency to running a company,”
But isn’t that a major conservative talking point? MBA president, no child left behind runs schools like a business, and so on.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:41 pmTracy__5 Says: that he’s an idiot.
We all know you are an idiot Tracy, you don’t need to post it for us to know.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:42 pmMr. Evil Says:
Tracy__5 Says: #44
Then why does the government waste time with legislation governing how companies conduct business in this country? Or maybe he meant to say ‘ruin.’ You know, the word that will forever be a footnote whenever Phil Gramm’s name appears in print.
Just don’t forget to add Dubya and Darth to that wall of shame. Look whose watch this is all happening under!
September 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pmThe truth is that running a warm bath is probably beyond Flippy McSpin’s intellectual capacity.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pmYeah, Buckie, but sometimes it’s good to know that things haven’t changed with our Tracist.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:45 pmWTF? Is today a school holiday? Or is Mommy drunk again?
Damn kids these days should relearn to go lay outside.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pmOops! “play outside”
September 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pmTracy does have a point; Republicans clearly know how to run the U. S. economy.
Into the ground.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pmWhat’s that old saying, something like, you don’t have to prove a stupid person is stupid, just let him keep talking. Anyway, something like that. Tell us some more John, Carly, Sarah, Douglas and Tracy__5 the wonder troll.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pmLike Fiorina, the only time Tracy_5 opens its mouth is to change feet.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pmDang! My flagging finger hasn’t hurt this much since TribblePrick_6. Or 7.
Hey TP! Is there a moderator in the house? You’re letting vandals crap all over your site again.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:51 pmjohnfive Says:
NEITHER campaign will even discuss restoring the power to set market interest rates back to the people. Instead it will be set by unelected central bankers – a Fascist’s dream. You can thank the duopoly that is the democrat AND republican party.
September 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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So what are you proposing? A nationwide referendum on the prime rate? Or a commodity market in which bankers and homeowners and mortgage brokers and economists establish the rate via open outcry?
September 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pmFiorina should know: she tried to run a company and GOT FIRED!
September 16th, 2008 at 3:54 pmSeems the Chinese might be the ones who run the US Economy. Oops maybe I mispoke. Run/own whatever…
September 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pmI actually agree with her that it’s a fallacy that running the government is the same as running a business. Absurd, really.
That said, apparently HP didn’t want her to run it, either.
September 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pmTracy_5
Keating_5
Fantastic_5
Bush_8
Which one is the comic book here, anyway?
September 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pmSix feet deep and digging!
September 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pmZimzone Says:
Tracy_5
Keating_5
Fantastic_5
Bush_8
Which one is the comic book here, anyway?
They are all comic books, but 3 of the 4 are NOT funny, just pathetic.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:00 pmWho in their right mind would link to that cluster f uck?
September 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI seem to remember that GW Bush said that he was going to run the country like the CEO of a corporation. And look what he did with it.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:18 pmA government is easier to run than a corporation.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:19 pmIn the government balancing the budget is optional and you can pee on the share holders.
I don’t think MacCain can run at all. If he walks a little faster he may have a stroke!
September 16th, 2008 at 5:21 pmJeepers dbadass. Have you forgotten that trolls don’t have human minds? Right or wrong doesn’t matter without a certain minimal number of synapses to fire. Or a point of reference.
And even if they had the synapses, they are so frightened of the non-existent “Leftists” that, anything but “fight or flight” is beyond the poor twisted little freaks. Typical Reichwhiner mentality. They get so worked up about imaginary threats that they can’t see our society collapsing all around them.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:22 pm“So it’s safe to say that nationalizing the U.S. economy wouldn’t be a good thing to do.”
It worked for the Soviet Union didn’t it?
September 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pmSilly tit. Can’t even tell the difference between a question and a declaration. Very sad, if it were human.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pmTracy_5:
What are you talking about? Show us where.
Oh sorry I just reread and noticed the magical “believe” word which seems to exempt its users from any fact checking…
September 16th, 2008 at 5:40 pmDo yourself a favor stupid troll. (Yes. I know the “stupid” is implied.) Look up “question”: as in, “Why not nationalize etc”? Then look up “declaration”: as in, “We should etc.”
Then you might want to look up “nationalize” and “communist”.
These words don’t mean what you seem to think they mean. Ignorant troll. (Sorry. The “ignorant” is implied as well.)
Then, if you don’t need to lie down with a cold cloth on your forehead, you might want to consider; how could one misinterpreted quote from a dissatisfied common citizen represent the policy of a candidate for President?
Then, assuming that the stuff in your head hasn’t run out your ears, try to explain why asking a question is a “threat”.
Good luck. I won’t bother waiting because, I have grown bored with the whole bed-wetting lot of you cowardly traitors.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pmWell she obviously couldn’t run a corporation without firing a major part of it’s workforce and spying on her employees. It seems the only thing she had was an MBA, the one thing she didn’t have was any common (business) sense.
September 16th, 2008 at 6:20 pmI’ve run a few business’s and have always been the most productive, brought in the most business, and the highest revenue (granted not on the scale of HP).
What do I have that she doesn’t, common sense.
Tracy_5:
So where is that place where I said what you “believe” I said? Come on now. If you can’t find it, the right thing to do is to acknowledge your mistake.
Tell us what you think wrong means….
September 16th, 2008 at 6:24 pmOops sorry Tracy_5, I missed #84.
See how easy it is to acknowledge one’s mistakes.
Don’t take my word for it, I wasn’t the one that made the mistaken claim. You did. Why not take some ownership of your errors?
September 16th, 2008 at 6:27 pmI have no interest in pursuing this any further but “I’ll take your word for it” versus “I was wrong/mistaken” are two entirely different things. No disrespect intended. I just hate when people use weasel words/phrases to distance themselves from their own errors.
September 16th, 2008 at 6:35 pmWow are you are cracked? I was the one who used the words I, and sorry and noted specifically how and where I made a mistake. which mets the I was wrong requirement while you shifted your mistake to a muddled I will take your word for it. Notice the use of personal pronouns.
It isn’t semantics it is the hubris which prevents some from being straight shooters…
September 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pmFiorina really screwed the pooch on this one.
September 16th, 2008 at 7:27 pmt5, for all of your pomp and bluster and bullshit you fail to recognize what is happening with fannie and freddie as exactly what you would love to accuse the left of doing…….guess what, it was somone on the left’s idea and bush has no choice except to go along with it.
bush is nationalizing our economy and mccain is all for it.
September 16th, 2008 at 7:52 pm.
The dog bit the hand that feed her…
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September 17th, 2008 at 1:33 amjohnfive Says:
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The free market is NOT religious dogma sent on gold tablets by GOD. It is an arbitrary system set up by people and can very WELL be regulated by people. In fact the unfettered market continually eats itself. The whole idea of Laisee Faire had PROVEN to be disasterous. We deregulate the S&L and then taxpayers bail it out. We deregulate the link between financial institutions and banks and taxpayers bail out them out and we get a mortgage crisis. When will you guys learn that money and power is brainwashing you with this just free us of the chains rhetoric. When freed up the unfettered greed causes PROBLEM it doesnt create solutions. The dirty little secret of the American economy is we have ALWAYS had socialism for the rich and they KNOW it. Its time for the American electorate to STOP BUYING THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE
September 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pmTracy__5 Says:
So it’s safe to say that nationalizing the U.S. economy wouldn’t be a good thing to do.
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It is safe to say that is a stupid strawman argument since NOBODY anywhere near this race is advocating nationalizing the economy.
September 17th, 2008 at 12:55 pmTracy__5 Says:
“I just hate when people use weasel words/phrases to distance themselves from their own errors.”
So how is….
“Oops sorry Tracy_5, I missed #84.”
the same as “I was wrong/mistaken”?
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In that it aknowleges he made a mistake that is MISSING #84 Whereas saying I will take your word for it does NOT aknowleeg any mistake but puts it on the other poster it is saying if you say so. You are a weasel but we all knew that
I hate it when people get too involved in semantics.
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Of course you do. Anyone that makes as many stupid arguments as you do naturally would.
September 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pmWell jeepers, you tit, I told you I wasn’t going to stick around. Are you so stupid you didn’t realize that meant I wasn’t going to be here to answer your question? Or, are you so dishonest you thought I would lie about something which is so inconsequential, like the GOP’s ticket is so prone to do?
But, I’m in a generous mood so I’ll answer your question now. “Nationalization” means that a government takes over the administration and/or ownership of a business or industry. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp, whether one thinks it’s a good idea or not. And, while some so-called communist economies have practiced nationalization to varying degrees, communism and nationalization are not synonymous. In fact, to a purist, they are mutually exclusive.
In short, communism is a political theory (which has never been truly implemented, but that’s a different discussion) while nationalization is a means of regulation.
You’re welcome. Stupid troll.
September 17th, 2008 at 5:41 pm