McCain seemingly rejects Spain as an ally.
McCain seemingly rejects Spain as an ally.
According to Spain’s El Pais, John McCain would not answer this week whether he would be willing to meet with Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. “Would you be willing to meet with the head of our government, Mr. Zapatero?” the questioner asked multiple times. Five months ago, McCain said he would be willing. But in the interview earlier this week, McCain could not offer a coherent and logical response:
McCain proceeded to launch into what appeared to be a boilerplate declaration about Mexico and Latin America — but not Spain — pressing the need to stand up to world leaders who want to harm America. “I will meet with those leaders who are our friends and who want to work with us cooperatively,” according to one translation. The reporter repeated the question two more times, apparently trying to clarify, but McCain referred again to Latin America.
Finally, the questioner said, “Okay, but I’m talking about Europe – the president of Spain, would you meet with him?” The Senator offered only a slight variance to his initial comment. “I will reunite with any leader that has the same principles and philosophy that we do: human rights, democracy, and liberty. And I will confront those that don’t [have them].”
Josh Marshall observed that one possibility is that, since the questioner “asked about Castro and Chavez,” McCain didn’t know who Zapatero was and assumed he “must be some other Latin American bad guy.” Yglesias has the audio.
UPDATE: Listen to the audio:
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Josh Marshall observed that one possibility is that, since the questioner “asked about Castro and Chavez,” McCain didn’t know who Zapatero was and assumed he “must be some other Latin American bad guy.”
That’s sure what it sounds like.
Dang. McSame fumbled this one, and he’s been in the U. S. Senate for twenty-some years. Imagine how badly his running mate would have bungled it. I mean, it’s not like she can see Spain from her house, is it?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:22 amSomething tells me McCain would love Spain if they had a conservative president. Remember how the reich attacked France for 6 years and now that they have a conservative president the republicans gush and call France our new bestest friend. Hurl!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:25 amImagine how many times McLame “mis-spoke” (i.e. fcuked up) up in the senate for 20+ years.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:26 amralph the wonder llama Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 amImagine how badly his running mate would have bungled it. I mean, it’s not like she can see Spain from her house, is it?
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But, but she does watch the Spanish channel once in awhile.
Now this is a completely unfair attack, TP. In case you’ve forgotten, John McCain was a Prisoner of War. He didn’t have kitchen tables, he didn’t have seven houses, and he certainly didn’t have the luxury of meeting with Latin Americans and other Hispanics!
Oh wait…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 amSpanish language cable channel…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am“I will reunite with any leader that has the same principles and philosophy that we do: human rights, democracy, and liberty. And I will confront those that don’t [have them].”
WTF? That’s right out of the mouth of George “W is for warmonger” Bush. Will John McCain soon be announcing who comrises his “Axis of Evil”?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 amYou can’t see Spain from Alaska, so how could we expect McSame to be an expert on Spain?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:29 amYeah TP leave the POW alone! :)
September 18th, 2008 at 10:29 amHTH, you’re absolutely right. I too forgot that McSame was a Prisoner of War.
I hereby retract all of my criticism.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:29 am“McCain could not offer a coherent and logical response”
There’s the problem – you can’t expect “logical” or “coherent” from Grampy.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 amPerhaps he was confusing Zapatero with Zapateria, and letting us know that he doesn’t need any new shoes at the moment.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 amOther bizarre things that have come from John McCain’s decomposing brain:
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Deference TP, show some deference. Always.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 amralph; Sara may not be able to see Spain from her house, but she did see a slide show travelogue about Spain once.
snark
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am#8 Lungman, this is no excuse, he is familiar with the hispanic immigrants that come into his home state of AZ Doesn’t that give him a leg up? gawd help us
September 18th, 2008 at 10:32 amAnd to be fair, I can understand McCain’s apprehension in dealing with the Spanish. During McCain’s youth, they had a quite massive armada indeed.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:32 amThe MSM will give the POW another pass for his senior moment. Voters won’t care since they don’t know that factoid either.
Now, if Barack Obama had made that gaffe….
September 18th, 2008 at 10:34 amunbelievable, it’s shocking sometimes how much McSame sounds like Bush, espercially for a guy who claims he wants to bring “change”. I doubt if he even realizes it. That event at Saddleback nailed it for me. I had never before heard McSame sound so much like the WPE™.
McSame is in a pickle, to be sure; in order to fire up his base now that the shine is fading on the Sarah bling, he’s got to speak their language. Only problem is, that language pushes away the moderates and undecideds who give Bush the highest disapproval rating in the history of disapproval ratings, and who McSame needs to court in order to win.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:35 amhussein toasterhead Says:
And to be fair, I can understand McCain’s apprehension in dealing with the Spanish
– - Because…
….NOOOOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!….
September 18th, 2008 at 10:36 amMaybe he just doesn’t know where Spain is or what it is . . . any more? We don’t need another four years of a president with advancing dementia.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:39 amPoke her with the Soft Cushions!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am“I will reunite with any leader that has the same principles and philosophy that we do: human rights, democracy, and liberty. And I will confront those that don’t [have them].”
So the leaders he will meet with allow torture, civil rights abuses, no habeus corpus, government the friend to the rich and enemy of the poor, gosh sounds like the standards are low enough to include all.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:41 amHFS!!! God help us all if this demented old man steals the presidency.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:41 amI’d like to see him with a BBC interviewrr who gets into the whole UK, Great Britain, Northern Ireland, English, Ireland, Ulster, British, etc. thingy.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:42 amCastro, Chavez, Zapatero …
they’re all the same… not?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:43 amHe didn’t expect the dot-com bubble to collapse, but maybe does expect the Spanish Inquisition. Except that NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:44 amIt’s quite obvious that Sen. McCain is not up to the mental rigors required of the leader of the most powerful nation on earth (arguably, depending on your def. of powerful).
September 18th, 2008 at 10:46 amHow many times has he misspoke during the campaign? Countless; and the intervals between are decreasing.
I would say a full set of neuropsychological testing would be in order.
Put him in the COMFY CHAIR!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:46 amSo it took three repetitions of the same question before McIIIrd figured out that the questioner, who had to actually tell him the country that Mr. Zapatero was president of, and still couldn’t put the question into a rational context?
Crikeys, he’s lost it. What was it again?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:46 amJosh Marshall observed that one possibility is that, since the questioner “asked about Castro and Chavez,” McCain didn’t know who Zapatero was and assumed he “must be some other Latin American bad guy.”
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OK, Johnny — back to the flashcards!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:47 amralph the wonder llama Says: McSame is in a pickle, to be sure; in order to fire up his base now that the shine is fading on the Sarah bling, he’s got to speak their language. Only problem is, that language pushes away the moderates and undecideds who give Bush the highest disapproval rating in the history of disapproval ratings, and who McSame needs to court in order to win.
So far, his judgment has also paralleled Heir Chimp’s. I suspect it will continue to tie him to Bush, no matter how much he pretends that he is the champion of ‘change’.
I think the swing in the polls is those undecideds and independents who, the more they learn of McCain and his girlfriend, the more they like Obama.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:48 amYou have to be kidding ???? McCain with his forien policy credentials doesn’t even know that Spain is not in South America. IDIOT!!!! Then he thinks the president is an enemy of the state. IDIOT!!!
ARE AMERICANS THIS STUPID????? THIS IS GOING TO BE A WIPE OUT BY NOVEMBER. WAIT TIL THE DEBATES.
WHAT A MORON, IDIOT AND COMPLETE DUMBASS.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:49 amI’m betting McStain thought they were asking about Zawahiri. You know, one of the numerous al Qaeda #2 men we’ve taken out over the years. In fact, we’ve gotten al Qaeda’s #2 man as many times as we’ve “turned the corner” in Iraq!
And since Monty Python has made its appearance here on TP this morning, please remember that Princess Wasilla believes that “every sperm is sacred.”
PEACE
September 18th, 2008 at 10:51 amDoes it seem to anyone else that the RNC must be pulling back resources to consolidate their effort in swing states, thus leaving the Troll Dept. high and dry?
I hope those guys are doing okay. It’s a tough economy out there, very difficult conditions in which to lose one’s job.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:52 amBut in the interview earlier this week, McCain could not offer a coherent and logical response:
Okay. This is no longer funny. This is no longer a “senior moment”.
This is truly scary, as it appears McCain has begun the unfortunate downward spiral associated with Alzheimers.
The reporter had to ask the question THREE times!
This is not a momentary lapse of forgetfulness.
This man could be president! Hello?
And who’s left in charge if he dies or becomes more incompetent? Why, Hell-bent for rapture Palin! Hello? McFly?
(I think I now know why they haven’t released his medical forms. And it appears to have nothing to do with carcinomas!)
September 18th, 2008 at 10:53 amCan’t we PLEASE elect someone who is smart this time? I like having a beer with someone as much as the next person, but I don’t trust the people I drink with to run the country.
How about electing a nice Constitutional Scholar instead?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 amNOLIESPLEASE Says:
“ARE AMERICANS THIS STUPID?????”
yes
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 amMaybe someone should ask John McCain if he knows what the Bush doctrine is.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:57 amThere will be more wars, my friend.
And I’m still trying to figure out who’s first on the list? Chavi boy, Morales, that new guy in Paraguay, is his name Zapatero? Who gives a hoot, they all have oil & gas…
September 18th, 2008 at 10:59 amOff the MSNBC First read…
IOWA: “McCain’s decision to hold an airport rally while skipping a tour of a city still reeling from summer flooding has some in Cedar Rapids grumbling. McCain, they say, is only the latest official to ignore their city’s pain. ‘That’s exactly what’s happening,’ said Lee Clancy, a Republican and a former mayor who is coordinating flood recovery efforts. ‘I don’t know if his advance team is making him aware that there are significant needs here.’”
“McCain’s schedule for Thursday calls for him to land at the Eastern Iowa Airport about five miles outside of Cedar Rapids, hold a rally at a private flying service with running mate Sarah Palin, then wing off to his next event. ‘He’s in and out,’ said David Roederer, chairman of McCain’s campaign in Iowa. There had been ’some discussion’ about touring the flood-ravaged city, he said, but scheduling pressures barely six weeks before the election prevailed.”
In and out…of touch.
With campaign management like this, he should also be flying the plane.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:00 amRalph, you’ve got a point, but….
Truck the Folls.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 amMcCain is a simpleton and we need an intelligent person as leader of our country.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:04 amOops, there goes the Spanish/American voting bloc in one fell swoop. Next!!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:07 amand this is the one with
foreign policy experience?
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September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 amMcCindy is probably in a room right now bouncing off the walls repeating, “I’m Cornholio, I need TP for my bunghole!”
September 18th, 2008 at 11:10 amNOLIES; What do you expect when McIdiot keeps talking about Czechoslovakia, a country that has not existed for 15 years and talks about the Iraq-Pakistan border, which does not exist at all.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am#40 state says:And I’m still trying to figure out who’s first on the list? Chavi boy, Morales, that new guy in Paraguay, is his name Zapatero? Who gives a hoot, they all have oil & gas…
And most of them have told the US to f@#k off. Nobody and I mean NOBODY gets away with that.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:16 amAfterwords, the mav thought to himself:
“hmmm….Spain – that must be where the rest of the damned houses that c**t bought are!!”
September 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am“What about Europe?”
September 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am“Oh! I’m up? I thought Gehrig was in the batting order before me!”
dareme,
vp dick cheney’s allowed to
tell the u.s. to f@#k off.
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but for everybody else it
is against the rules.
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September 18th, 2008 at 11:20 amAt least GWB habla espanol…
September 18th, 2008 at 11:21 amSo he doesn’t know who Zapatero is, doesn’t know where Spain is and doesn’t know what form of government Spain has. This is still the most coherent set of answers I have seen from McCain all month.
Perhaps he still bears a grudge over his five and a half years of captivity during the Spanish-American War?
September 18th, 2008 at 11:23 amthomthum Says:
At least GWB habla espanol…
September 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am
True history: our previous Prime Minister had to change its accent to MEXICAN in order to be understood by Bush.
So maybe GWB speaks Spanish (Mexican?), but doesn’t understand it.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:37 amJosh Marshall observed that one possibility is that, since the questioner “asked about Castro and Chavez,” McCain didn’t know who Zapatero was and assumed he “must be some other Latin American bad guy.”
So in the case he’s President in some future time, and a call at 3:00 am let’s him know that (hypothethical) Prime Minister Smith has started war with the USA, he’ll decide to bomb Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand or Jamaica at random, simply because he has an English last name?
September 18th, 2008 at 11:41 amI’m going to give McSame the benefit of Extreme Doubt and suggest that this is an example of just how incompetent the McSame campaign staff is. I suspect it’s chock-full of Young America’s Foundation and College Republicans dipsh*ts.
Someone incompetent — and thus impossible to identity within McSame ranks — surely wiki’d Zapatero and learned that he’s the leader of the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party (PSOE).
Eegad! “Socialist!” “Workers!” And that’s all Grampa McSame could keep in his dusty old brainpan.
Heh-heh-heh-heh. Socialism, my friends. That’s not an ideology we can believe in. Heh-heh-heh.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:41 amWhy must we continue to be embarrassed by the people who are considered leaders in this country? We all know that Bush 43 is a moron, and we’ve gotten used to his confused and addled meanderings. Now we have McCain, who is looking more and more like a sad, bitter old man, showing his ignorance of the world. He’s been in the US Senate for 26 years! He should know full well that Spain is not in Latin America. He should also know the name of the head of state of Spain – an ally of the United States.
Please America – elect a REAL man to the White House for a change!
Obama/Biden 2008!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:46 amHemlock for Gadflies Says:
I’m going to give McSame the benefit of Extreme Doubt and suggest that this is an example of just how incompetent the McSame campaign staff is.
Very Extreme, considering that the few Socialism as known by Marx left in the PSOE is the social (with no capital letter) policies. Economically, they’ve embraced capitalism fully.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:48 amAssuming this is only dementia is giving McCain the benefit of the doubt. I suspect if we saw his school records they would make Bush’s ‘C’ average look stellar. I suspect the guy has been dumb his whole life and is just really, really lucky.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:49 amMcsane might consult Sara Palin on this subject, as she can see Spain from her cellar window.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:50 amWell, maybe he IS confused about the location of Spain. Irrespective of that, I offer the following comment:
I am certainly not a supporter of McCain, quite the opposite, but if he does not want to meet with Zapatero of Spain, I agree with him wholeheartedly! I live in Spain, and have for many years. Zapatero is a liar, opportunist, knows less about economics than McCain, knows little about the outside world, and is ruining Spain. The man only won reelection with the help of the Communist party here in Spain. Even representatives in the European community avoid even sitting with the man during his few visits to Brussels. (The man continuously smiles, even at funerals!) Some of the programs he pushes in Spain border on the asinine. One typical example: he recently laid a tax on all electronic devices that are capable of reproducing music with the revenues to go to those poor artists whose discs are being copied illegally. Truth is, no one buys the trash those so called artists put out. The tax was simply to garner the vote of thousands of those “failed artists” and nothing more. I could go on, but this is just a sample of the man’s mentality! So, McCain, Obama, or any other Government person should continue to shun this borderline idiot like the plague! The man makes Bush look like a genius!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:54 amThis is why they haven’t released his medical records fully–it’s quite obvious that he is beginning to suffer from dementia. The GOP really wants a puppet administration to hide behind while they do their dirty work and he gets the blame–and if he dies in office (God help us not to have him elected!) then Palin in her uninformed mental maturity will be another puppet to control. They did it with Reagan except his vp had all his faculties.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:57 amThis is not age discrimination, just simple observance. I do not feel he can withstand the rigors of presidency or the run for office and it is taking its toll in front of everyone when he’s on stage. He’s not capable of being misused by those he surrounds himself with even having full mental capacity.
jpopphan Says:
He should know full well that Spain is not in Latin America. He should also know the name of the head of state of Spain – an ally of the United States.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Especially considering some facts: we have troops in Afghanistan right now, we have lost soldiers there, our previous Prime Minister was one of the only three of Western European countries (with Italy and UK) who helped Bush in Iraq with troops (not that I’m proud of it, it’s a fact), members of the NATO, etc.
Oh, and Javier Solana, Spanish, and member of the (feared?) PSOE is the High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) and the Secretary-General of both the Council of the European Union (EU) and the Western European Union (WEU):
Francisco Javier Solana de Madariaga, Ph.D. (born July 14, 1942 in Madrid, Spain) is the High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) and the Secretary-General of both the Council of the European Union (EU) and the Western European Union (WEU). He was named Secretary General of the 10 permanent member Western European Union in November 1999. Solana was a physicist who became a political minister for 13 years under Felipe González before serving as Secretary General of NATO from 1995 to 1999.
So much for Mc”My Strenght is Security and Defense”
September 18th, 2008 at 11:58 amVietnamVet Says:
Well, maybe he IS confused about the location of Spain. Irrespective of that, I offer the following comment:
I am certainly not a supporter of McCain, quite the opposite, but if he does not want to meet with Zapatero of Spain, I agree with him wholeheartedly! I live in Spain, and have for many years. Zapatero is a liar, opportunist, knows less about economics than McCain, knows little about the outside world, and is ruining Spain. The man only won reelection with the help of the Communist party here in Spain. Even representatives in the European community avoid even sitting with the man during his few visits to Brussels. (The man continuously smiles, even at funerals!) Some of the programs he pushes in Spain border on the asinine. One typical example: he recently laid a tax on all electronic devices that are capable of reproducing music with the revenues to go to those poor artists whose discs are being copied illegally. Truth is, no one buys the trash those so called artists put out. The tax was simply to garner the vote of thousands of those “failed artists” and nothing more. I could go on, but this is just a sample of the man’s mentality! So, McCain, Obama, or any other Government person should continue to shun this borderline idiot like the plague! The man makes Bush look like a genius!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:54 am
This guy is so badly treated here that he prefers to live here than in the USA. Logical.
Either you’re a Republican posing as Independent, or you’re no American at all. You sound far more like a PP rightwinger trying to slime Zapatero in foreing blogs.
BTW, do you believe that corporations like Sony, Walt Disney, etc asking for the taxpayer money have less influence in the USA than in Spain? Where have been more Police raids in homes of illegal P2P users? In the USA or Spain?
Too bad Aznar was kicked out of office, uh?
September 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pmGrampy McGonnaDieSoon says – My friends if you have a latin sounding name then you are a terrorist and you hate our freedoms that we have left, yes that name Zapatero is sorta like Zappa sounding and he made fun of republicans, called us crooks and liars, and we don’t like people that point that out, those foreign sounding names are bad for our economy, and our national security because they are hard to spell and say, all those latin guys think they live in latin america, well I tell you they are trying to steal our good name, America is for Americans not those dark skinned latin guys, what? Canada is in North America? Well, see their you go, now Canadians are trying to steal our good name now also, Watch the Palin, watch the Palin, watch the Palin, you are getting sleepy, don’t ask about real issues watch the Palin….Zzzzzzzzz.
Good golly miss Molly, this idiot is running neck and neck with Obama, this country is retarded to the max.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pmBuckie Boy Says:
September 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
McIdontlikespics must have some serious issues with Alberto Gonzales, Antonin Scalia, or the name Condolezza, isn’t? They’re not applepieOK.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pmWhat’s the matter with John McSpain?
September 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pmIf Spain is not an ally then they must be an enemy. Why does John McCain think that Spain is an enemy, and will he invade Spain if elected?
September 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pmHey, Hey, Hey,
Just a few years ago, Spain was a clearly conservative fascist state. So it seems like McCain could feel right at home there.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pmMay I add that one of the largest terror attacks occured on Spain’s transportation system. So by the Bush doctrine, they are our friend.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pmMapleStreet Says:
Hey, Hey, Hey,
Just a few years ago, Spain was a clearly conservative fascist state. So it seems like McCain could feel right at home there.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
“Only” 33 years ago… but for McFossil, it must feel like yesterday.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pmEvil Spaniard said:
This guy is so badly treated here that he prefers to live here than in the USA. Logical
Either you’re a Republican posing as Independent, or you’re no American at all. You sound far more like a PP rightwinger trying to slime Zapatero in foreing blogs.
BTW, do you believe that corporations like Sony, Walt Disney, etc asking for the taxpayer money have less influence in the USA than in Spain? Where have been more Police raids in homes of illegal P2P users? In the USA or Spain?
Too bad Aznar was kicked out of office, uh?
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For what it is worth to you, my friend, folks live overseas for various reasons, none of which should concern you! And, I certainly don’t live here because I was mistreated in the USA!
Your deduction from my post that I am a Republican clearly shows what you DO NOT know of Democrats and Republicans, OR your understanding of the English language is as bad as Zapatero’s. No one needs to “slime Zapatero.” He does a pretty damn good job of that himself! You can check with the American Embassy in Madrid if you doubt I am from the USA.
Your last comment is simply trash and does not even warrant a reply.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pmVietnamVet Says:
For what it is worth to you, my friend, folks live overseas for various reasons, none of which should concern you! And, I certainly don’t live here because I was mistreated in the USA!
I’m not your friend. BTW, you realize you’re using the exact same verbal mannerisms than McCain?
Your deduction from my post that I am a Republican clearly shows what you DO NOT know of Democrats and Republicans, OR your understanding of the English language is as bad as Zapatero’s. No one needs to “slime Zapatero.” He does a pretty damn good job of that himself! You can check with the American Embassy in Madrid if you doubt I am from the USA.
Probably Zapatero hasn’t a great command of English, but boy, Bush is a riot, isn’t? Nu-Ku-Larr. And the constant backtrackings of McCains over his own declarations? That’s a laugh, for sure! He’s the Deciderer II.
BTW, you claim to live in Spain, but have’nt uttered a word in Spanish. Is your knowledge of the idiom so dim that you can’t even understand what is going around you? Are your only sources of information right wing papers? Or foreing ones? Or both?
Slime
5. to cover or smear with or as if with slime.
Smear
4. to sully, vilify, or soil (a reputation, good name, etc.).
“To slime”, yes.
Your last comment is simply trash and does not even warrant a reply.
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You mean
Too bad Aznar was kicked out of office, uh?
I see where your sympathies are.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pmEvil Spaniard:
I do not plan to further address your asisine comments; half of them do not even make sense.
But one final shot: why should I be posting here in Spanish? If I wanted to do that, I would go to a Spanish blog site.
Finally, you just like to nit pick what posters write, without providing any relevant information. You probably should restrict yourself to Spanish sites where you might be better understood?
Take care no, and good luck, you probably need it!
September 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pmI just think McCain looks like a confused old man.
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