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	<title>Comments on: CNN: Palin&#8217;s suggested oil export ban &#8216;not exactly easy to understand.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Iolair</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5240122</link>
		<dc:creator>Iolair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;“Palin for Dummies” Book One:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;“Oil and coal.”&lt;/em&gt;

As you know, oil and coal are both fossil fuels, one of which Alaska has (oil) and one which it doesn’t (coal - at least not in significant quantities). These fossil fuels came from dinosaurs, which everyone knows were saved from destruction by the Grace of God as expressed through His Mercy in Noah’s Ark. But they all died off some 6,000 years ago so that we could have Life in Abundance through burning their remains. 
&lt;em&gt;
“Of course, it’s a fungible commodity…”&lt;/em&gt;

Fungible is a word like fungus, and fungus grows best by keeping it in the dark and feeding it bullshit.

&lt;em&gt;“and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules…”&lt;/em&gt;

I mean, that would be rediculous, putting little American Flags on all those tiny molecules.

&lt;em&gt;“…where it’s going and where it’s not. “&lt;/em&gt;

Just like me and this reply. No one knows where I’m going, and where I’m not. That’s because I’m the world’s foremost expert on energy. And experts are supposed to speak in a language nobody understands. Just like when I speak in tongues at my church.

&lt;em&gt;“But in the sense of the Congress today…”&lt;/em&gt;

And thank God Congress lacks any sense.

&lt;em&gt;“…they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first.”&lt;/em&gt;

Exxon’s profits aren’t nearly high enough. Neither are the other oil companies. Think of all those starving CEO’s….

&lt;em&gt;“So, I believe that what Congress is going to do,”&lt;/em&gt;

Because God told me what Congress is going to do.

&lt;em&gt;“… also, is not to allow the export bans…”&lt;/em&gt;

We’re gonna ship that oil to the highest bidder on the Global Market.

&lt;em&gt;“…to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here …”&lt;/em&gt;

We’re shipping shopping bags overseas, too. That way Americans cannot get stuck holding the bag which is devoid of energy sources.

&lt;em&gt;“pumped here.”&lt;/em&gt;

Now, if I say it, it’s ok. But if Obama says it, it’s sexist. There’s loads of virgin oil fields in Alaska, just waiting to be exploited. And the first to drill is the first to get the thrill of that big gusher.

&lt;em&gt;“It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.”&lt;/em&gt;

And then overseas - to higher profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“Palin for Dummies” Book One:</strong></p>
<p><em>“Oil and coal.”</em></p>
<p>As you know, oil and coal are both fossil fuels, one of which Alaska has (oil) and one which it doesn’t (coal &#8211; at least not in significant quantities). These fossil fuels came from dinosaurs, which everyone knows were saved from destruction by the Grace of God as expressed through His Mercy in Noah’s Ark. But they all died off some 6,000 years ago so that we could have Life in Abundance through burning their remains.<br />
<em><br />
“Of course, it’s a fungible commodity…”</em></p>
<p>Fungible is a word like fungus, and fungus grows best by keeping it in the dark and feeding it bullshit.</p>
<p><em>“and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules…”</em></p>
<p>I mean, that would be rediculous, putting little American Flags on all those tiny molecules.</p>
<p><em>“…where it’s going and where it’s not. “</em></p>
<p>Just like me and this reply. No one knows where I’m going, and where I’m not. That’s because I’m the world’s foremost expert on energy. And experts are supposed to speak in a language nobody understands. Just like when I speak in tongues at my church.</p>
<p><em>“But in the sense of the Congress today…”</em></p>
<p>And thank God Congress lacks any sense.</p>
<p><em>“…they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first.”</em></p>
<p>Exxon’s profits aren’t nearly high enough. Neither are the other oil companies. Think of all those starving CEO’s….</p>
<p><em>“So, I believe that what Congress is going to do,”</em></p>
<p>Because God told me what Congress is going to do.</p>
<p><em>“… also, is not to allow the export bans…”</em></p>
<p>We’re gonna ship that oil to the highest bidder on the Global Market.</p>
<p><em>“…to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here …”</em></p>
<p>We’re shipping shopping bags overseas, too. That way Americans cannot get stuck holding the bag which is devoid of energy sources.</p>
<p><em>“pumped here.”</em></p>
<p>Now, if I say it, it’s ok. But if Obama says it, it’s sexist. There’s loads of virgin oil fields in Alaska, just waiting to be exploited. And the first to drill is the first to get the thrill of that big gusher.</p>
<p><em>“It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.”</em></p>
<p>And then overseas &#8211; to higher profits.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5240122', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rossir</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5239118</link>
		<dc:creator>rossir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I understand why she is no longer a sportscaster.  She must have spoken during a broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I understand why she is no longer a sportscaster.  She must have spoken during a broadcast.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5239118', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237836</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ralph the wonder llama Says:

&lt;em&gt;The quote you pulled from “&lt;strong&gt;an official Obama sight (sic)” &lt;/strong&gt;proposes greater transparency of earmarks, not a widescale elimination of them, as McSame and Caribou Barbie propose.

But the overarching &lt;strong&gt;poit&lt;/strong&gt; here:&lt;/em&gt;

The First Law of Internet posting takes another scalp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ralph the wonder llama Says:</p>
<p><em>The quote you pulled from “<strong>an official Obama sight (sic)” </strong>proposes greater transparency of earmarks, not a widescale elimination of them, as McSame and Caribou Barbie propose.</p>
<p>But the overarching <strong>poit</strong> here:</em></p>
<p>The First Law of Internet posting takes another scalp&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237836', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237892</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what her answer seems to imply (and what we&#039;ve known all along) is that a good portion of the oil we pump out of the ground here in good ol&#039; America, to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, will indeed be sold on the open market.

What pisses me off is that no one in the MSM seems to be interested in pounding the &quot;Drill Drill Drill&quot; crowd over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what her answer seems to imply (and what we&#8217;ve known all along) is that a good portion of the oil we pump out of the ground here in good ol&#8217; America, to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, will indeed be sold on the open market.</p>
<p>What pisses me off is that no one in the MSM seems to be interested in pounding the &#8220;Drill Drill Drill&#8221; crowd over this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237892', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237820</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ralph the wonder llama Says:

IT’S NOT ABOUT THE BRIDGE. IT’S ABOUT THE LYING ABOUT THE BRIDGE.

Why can you not get that?
&lt;/em&gt;

*

because he&#039;s a troll ralph.

underhanded, lying and completely

rovian in his manner and character.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ralph the wonder llama Says:</p>
<p>IT’S NOT ABOUT THE BRIDGE. IT’S ABOUT THE LYING ABOUT THE BRIDGE.</p>
<p>Why can you not get that?<br />
</em></p>
<p>*</p>
<p>because he&#8217;s a troll ralph.</p>
<p>underhanded, lying and completely</p>
<p>rovian in his manner and character.</p>
<p>^<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237820', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237814</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:
joe. Okay. she put palin in front of mccain. It’s a gaffe. But, is it any worse than the man that would be only a heartbeat away, telling a man in a wheelchair to stand up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

Those miracles might be better left to the messiah.&lt;/em&gt;

*

you better look at your own link.

he didn&#039;t tell a man in a wheelchair to stand up.

ha asked him to because he wanted to honor a 

man who had served his country.

*

it was an honest mistake not a freudian slip.

however you put it in the context of a man who&#039;s just

a heartbeat away from the presidency and insinuate that

that he&#039;s deliberately being blasphemous - well backup 

that&#039;s just sick concentration camp guard humor on your part.

*

i know you don&#039;t have conscience but

if you did i&#039;m sure it would being bothering

you now and you&#039;d apologize.

*

thank you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:<br />
joe. Okay. she put palin in front of mccain. It’s a gaffe. But, is it any worse than the man that would be only a heartbeat away, telling a man in a wheelchair to stand up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4</a></p>
<p>Those miracles might be better left to the messiah.</em></p>
<p>*</p>
<p>you better look at your own link.</p>
<p>he didn&#8217;t tell a man in a wheelchair to stand up.</p>
<p>ha asked him to because he wanted to honor a </p>
<p>man who had served his country.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>it was an honest mistake not a freudian slip.</p>
<p>however you put it in the context of a man who&#8217;s just</p>
<p>a heartbeat away from the presidency and insinuate that</p>
<p>that he&#8217;s deliberately being blasphemous &#8211; well backup </p>
<p>that&#8217;s just sick concentration camp guard humor on your part.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>i know you don&#8217;t have conscience but</p>
<p>if you did i&#8217;m sure it would being bothering</p>
<p>you now and you&#8217;d apologize.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: bonzo 1958</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237784</link>
		<dc:creator>bonzo 1958</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/palin-puts-herself-on-top-of-ticket-its.html

palin/mccain 08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/palin-puts-herself-on-top-of-ticket-its.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/palin-puts-herself-on-top-of-ticket-its.html</a></p>
<p>palin/mccain 08<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237846</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the curious, The First Law of Internet Posting states that: Anyone who criticizes another&#039;s typing/editing skills, will invariably make a similar mistake &lt;em&gt;in their original critique&lt;/em&gt;.

It&#039;s inevitible.

[Ok, that one was on purpose]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the curious, The First Law of Internet Posting states that: Anyone who criticizes another&#8217;s typing/editing skills, will invariably make a similar mistake <em>in their original critique</em>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s inevitible.</p>
<p>[Ok, that one was on purpose]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237758</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;backup Says:
This looks like it’s from an official Obama sight. They say they want to ’shine light on earmarks and pork barrel spending’:

Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama’s Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/

If it’s true, then it sounds as if they are making earmark reform part of their platform.

Their support for the ‘bridge to nowhere’ then becomes relevant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

backup, are you mendacious, or stupid?

The quote you pulled from &quot;an official Obama sight (sic)&quot; proposes greater transparency of earmarks, not a widescale elimination of them, as McSame and Caribou Barbie propose.

But the overarching poit here:

IT&#039;S NOT ABOUT THE BRIDGE. IT&#039;S ABOUT&lt;strong&gt; THE LYING ABOUT THE BRIDGE&lt;/strong&gt;.

Why can you not get that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>backup Says:<br />
This looks like it’s from an official Obama sight. They say they want to ’shine light on earmarks and pork barrel spending’:</p>
<p>Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama’s Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/</a></p>
<p>If it’s true, then it sounds as if they are making earmark reform part of their platform.</p>
<p>Their support for the ‘bridge to nowhere’ then becomes relevant.</p></blockquote>
<p>backup, are you mendacious, or stupid?</p>
<p>The quote you pulled from &#8220;an official Obama sight (sic)&#8221; proposes greater transparency of earmarks, not a widescale elimination of them, as McSame and Caribou Barbie propose.</p>
<p>But the overarching poit here:</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S NOT ABOUT THE BRIDGE. IT&#8217;S ABOUT<strong> THE LYING ABOUT THE BRIDGE</strong>.</p>
<p>Why can you not get that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237758', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple version: Earmarks are added to Bills. They are not the Bills themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple version: Earmarks are added to Bills. They are not the Bills themselves.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237744', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the ’scrutiny’ that Charlie gave Obama. &lt;/em&gt;

*

hmmm,

bill o&#039;reilly&#039;s interview with oabama

vs.

sean hannity&#039;s interview with palin.

#

&quot;Check it out&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

!

“If you’re not concerned about credibility - have at it.”

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:</p>
<p>And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the ’scrutiny’ that Charlie gave Obama. </em></p>
<p>*</p>
<p>hmmm,</p>
<p>bill o&#8217;reilly&#8217;s interview with oabama</p>
<p>vs.</p>
<p>sean hannity&#8217;s interview with palin.</p>
<p>#</p>
<p>&#8220;Check it out&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>!</p>
<p>“If you’re not concerned about credibility &#8211; have at it.”</p>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237738</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it’s true, then it sounds as if they are making earmark reform part of their platform.&quot;

No.  Government transparency is the aim but I&#039;m sure they are open to cutting some pork barrel projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it’s true, then it sounds as if they are making earmark reform part of their platform.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  Government transparency is the aim but I&#8217;m sure they are open to cutting some pork barrel projects.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237738', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not &quot;clumsy&quot; but &quot;clueless&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not &#8220;clumsy&#8221; but &#8220;clueless&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237734</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup Says: 

EugeneDebs. If Palin was at a campaign event and asked a man in a wheelchair to stand, the press (and progressives) would be having a field day. The message would be that she’s obviously not ready for prime time. The Biden comment went unnoticed. 

And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the ’scrutiny’ that Charlie gave Obama. Check it out:

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First no she didnt she came off as vapid and uninformed. Second please give up trying to pretend Biden and Obama are getting a pass from the press while McSilly and Paladin are  under a microscope. She is getting bad press now for two reasons she is ducking the press, except for softball interviews and she keeps lying and making idiotic statements. Biden is a smart man who is PRONE to idiotic foot in mouth moments one of them pretty much ended his Presidential campain as soon as it started. None of this IS THE TOPIC. You keep doing this LOOK over there at some democrat somewhere derailing of the thread. THESE threads have topics and its plain trollwork to try the look over there at the Democrat tactic. HAD this been a POLICY issue instead of run of the mill stupidity that would be one thing. It isnt, you have no point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup Says: </p>
<p>EugeneDebs. If Palin was at a campaign event and asked a man in a wheelchair to stand, the press (and progressives) would be having a field day. The message would be that she’s obviously not ready for prime time. The Biden comment went unnoticed. </p>
<p>And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the ’scrutiny’ that Charlie gave Obama. Check it out:</p>
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<p>First no she didnt she came off as vapid and uninformed. Second please give up trying to pretend Biden and Obama are getting a pass from the press while McSilly and Paladin are  under a microscope. She is getting bad press now for two reasons she is ducking the press, except for softball interviews and she keeps lying and making idiotic statements. Biden is a smart man who is PRONE to idiotic foot in mouth moments one of them pretty much ended his Presidential campain as soon as it started. None of this IS THE TOPIC. You keep doing this LOOK over there at some democrat somewhere derailing of the thread. THESE threads have topics and its plain trollwork to try the look over there at the Democrat tactic. HAD this been a POLICY issue instead of run of the mill stupidity that would be one thing. It isnt, you have no point<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237734', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237726</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EugeneDebs.  good point.  thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EugeneDebs.  good point.  thank you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237726', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237716</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup Says: 

EugeneDebs. correct me if I’m wrong, 
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Their votes were for an OMNIBUS SPENDING BILL. Bills are complicated things. Would you have them deny the funding for the several billion dollars of WORTHWHILE projects just to stop the silly bridge? Its just dumb to pretend that a vote on a bill is the end all of whether they support or oppose everything IN the bill. IF the bill had been ONLY about the bridge you would have a point. It wasnt there was also a flaw in the Coburn amendment so THAT also doesnt mean they were supporters of the bridge. Think of it like this. Suppose you SUPPORTED a Medicare drug benifit but DIDNT like the fact it had a 139 BILLION dollar subsidy to the Pharmacuetical industry. So if you vote FOR the bill because you want the benifit does that mean you SUPPORTED the subsidy? If you voted against the bill because of the subsidy does that mean you OPPOSE a drug benfit? It is usually a mistake to oversimplify these things but to just CLAIM that the vote means they supported the bridge is unsupportable unless you can cough up a quote of them ACTUALLY SAYING THEY SUPPORT IT or if the bill had been ONLY about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup Says: </p>
<p>EugeneDebs. correct me if I’m wrong,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Their votes were for an OMNIBUS SPENDING BILL. Bills are complicated things. Would you have them deny the funding for the several billion dollars of WORTHWHILE projects just to stop the silly bridge? Its just dumb to pretend that a vote on a bill is the end all of whether they support or oppose everything IN the bill. IF the bill had been ONLY about the bridge you would have a point. It wasnt there was also a flaw in the Coburn amendment so THAT also doesnt mean they were supporters of the bridge. Think of it like this. Suppose you SUPPORTED a Medicare drug benifit but DIDNT like the fact it had a 139 BILLION dollar subsidy to the Pharmacuetical industry. So if you vote FOR the bill because you want the benifit does that mean you SUPPORTED the subsidy? If you voted against the bill because of the subsidy does that mean you OPPOSE a drug benfit? It is usually a mistake to oversimplify these things but to just CLAIM that the vote means they supported the bridge is unsupportable unless you can cough up a quote of them ACTUALLY SAYING THEY SUPPORT IT or if the bill had been ONLY about it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237716', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237708</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne.

You’re right. My apologies (sincere).

I’ll think about it, and at the least, come back when it’s a more appropriate thread.

see you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne.</p>
<p>You’re right. My apologies (sincere).</p>
<p>I’ll think about it, and at the least, come back when it’s a more appropriate thread.</p>
<p>see you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237708', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237698</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backup,  I  may have to  start flagging   you.

Sometimes  you do show  some  signs  of  intelligence in  your  discussions,  but today  is  not  one  of  those  days.  Today  you  are  just   being  an  annoying   troll.

Your  off  subject  strawmen and  projections  are  getting  a  bit  irritating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backup,  I  may have to  start flagging   you.</p>
<p>Sometimes  you do show  some  signs  of  intelligence in  your  discussions,  but today  is  not  one  of  those  days.  Today  you  are  just   being  an  annoying   troll.</p>
<p>Your  off  subject  strawmen and  projections  are  getting  a  bit  irritating.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-5237700</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Quick look over there, or there, or ANYWHERE at some Democrat SOMEWHERE, anywhere but at Palins abject stupidity. That is pretty much STANDARD trollwork&lt;/blockquote&gt;

EugeneDebs. If Palin was at a campaign event and asked a man in a wheelchair to stand, the press (and progressives) would be having a field day.  The message would be that she&#039;s obviously not ready for prime time.  The Biden comment went unnoticed. 

And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the &#039;scrutiny&#039; that Charlie gave Obama.  Check it out:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=29535</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Quick look over there, or there, or ANYWHERE at some Democrat SOMEWHERE, anywhere but at Palins abject stupidity. That is pretty much STANDARD trollwork</p></blockquote>
<p>EugeneDebs. If Palin was at a campaign event and asked a man in a wheelchair to stand, the press (and progressives) would be having a field day.  The message would be that she&#8217;s obviously not ready for prime time.  The Biden comment went unnoticed. </p>
<p>And, to be honest, Palin held her own with Charlie Gibson, especially when you consider the examination she got vs. the &#8217;scrutiny&#8217; that Charlie gave Obama.  Check it out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=29535" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=29535</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237700', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: spencers mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencers mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone here who follows fivethirtyeight, here&#039;s the latest!

A must see:


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/


The tide has turned, and turned in a HUGE wave!

PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone here who follows fivethirtyeight, here&#8217;s the latest!</p>
<p>A must see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/</a></p>
<p>The tide has turned, and turned in a HUGE wave!</p>
<p>PEACE<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5237690', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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