War in Afghanistan is now ‘15 times more’ deadly than Iraq.
By on Sep 24th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
War in Afghanistan is now ‘15 times more’ deadly than Iraq.
Brandon Friedman at VetVoice writes today that “one year ago — last September — the hostile fire death rates in Iraq and Afghanistan were roughly equal. But now, in terms of hostile fire death rates, what was once seen as the ’safer’ theater, Afghanistan has now exploded to the point that it’s nearly 15 times more dangerous for American troops than Iraq.” Using causality figures from the last 30 days, Friedman finds:
Hostile fire death rate in Iraq: 7 deaths per 146,000 troops (.005 percent)
Hostile fire death rate in Afghanistan: 7 deaths per 10,000 troops (.07 percent)
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Please note that the administration is going to keep the soon-to-be completed NIE on Afghanistan classified until after the election.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:38 pmIs it 15 times more deadly because the rate has gone up in Afghanistan or because the rate has gone down in Iraq.
This would be more meaningful with last September's rates.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:45 pmMission Accomplished! Zone No. 2 is beginning to destabilize in rapid fashion.
And who said we shouldn't put anything into Afghanistan?!
Oh yeah, it was Bush and his enablers.
Maybe the third time will be the charm. Wait a minute...
September 24th, 2008 at 11:58 pmYes, once again Obama was/is correct, and Bush/McStain are just catching up.
I hope this gets the attention it deserves, especially given the politically timed release of the NIE - after the election in November.
PEACE
September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 amThe republican party is disaster for American and humanity!!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 ambackup Says:
This would be more meaningful with last September’s rates.
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And leave it to the hideously self-important twit in the smoking jacket to try and turn someone else's death into a "statistical issue". You embarrass yourself every time you show up here, backdoor.
So, what's up w/ the over-sized corncob pipe and aviator shades? That's quite a get up now.. w/ the epaulets and fake medals... channeling your "inner Douglas McArthur"???
September 25th, 2008 at 12:25 amI'm guessing this is the reason why the new report is being kept a secret?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:26 amFolks behind these war crimes, crimes against humanity, and treason really don't care about the number of dead or wounded.
They just count greenbacks and they are rakin' it in hands-over-fist.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:45 amAnd the MSM will dutifully "catapult the propaganda" that this is good, very good, because we have to be "fair and balanced" before the election.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:47 amUS out of Afghanistan and Iraq now.
How to fix up our good old USA: let's just turn the clock back on the last thirty years of right-wing GOP deregulation, outsourcing of our jobs, both manufacturing and technical, and return to making "Made in USA" a world-standard label. We need to return to fair trade. We need to rebuild our tariff walls so that shoes and televisions made in China cost the same amount as shoes and televisions Made in USA." Countries have been using protective tariffs for hundreds of years to protect their own vital industries. Even making shoes could be considered a vital industry, if you don't want to walk barefoot... To learn more about rebuilding our own manufacturing base, listen to Thom Hartmann on the progressive radio dial or check out his website, http://www.thomhartmann.com/.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:57 am"15 times more deadly" and, I'm afraid, just as pointless whilst this administration is still in charge.
And just as pointless if the next administration ( which will have A LOT on its plate) doesn't make the effort to thoroughly review the US and NATO presence there and what the hell it's supposed to accomplish.
(aside: Hi, Another Joe, short time no see! :)
September 25th, 2008 at 12:58 am.
http://act.truemajority.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=l2RVJd%2FVX5x4imNRQd0lPq9OT0omqdOr
Act now of forever loose your pursuit of happiness...
Oh, BTW...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnPS2ho-_6w
O C T O B E R
S U R P R I S E!!!
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September 25th, 2008 at 1:00 amwell I'm off to 'BEDfordshire' so goodnight all, and what a crazy day, huh? Laters.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:11 amCome Nov. 4, McCain is the mop and Palin is the bucket. Best of all, the GOP is going to get put through the wringer!
I get the feeling Rush, Billo and Senator Glenn will be dragged kicking and screaming on air November 5...trying to get a recount in the biggest a$$ whomping we've seen in a long time.
September 25th, 2008 at 2:20 amOff-topic, but does anyone find ThinkProgress.org basically unavailable for long periods, at least during evenings and nights, on a consistent basis? I can go for several hours without access to it from my corporate desk, but it's not blocked (as some sites are -- you'll immediately get a "SITE BLOCKED" page), the site simply won't come up, while other sites are readily available. It might be extended downtime for ThinkProgress backing-up their servers at night, but it seems broader than that, going on for hours sometimes, at least for me. Thanks.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:49 amGreat! Another unwise land war in Asia. When will our generals, who unlike aWol himself have studied military history, finally revolt??
September 25th, 2008 at 7:07 amIsn't this a NATO war? Wasn't it supposed to be a multilateral, UN approved operation? Where's NATO?
September 25th, 2008 at 7:56 amRepublic. Okay, think about what you're saying and then take another look at the headline of the thread. Does your criticism of 'turning someone elses death into a statistical issue apply to Vetvoice and Thinkprogress?
I'll assume your smarter than your moniker and that you understand how statistics are manipulated. They mean little without comparison.
Here's the stats for jobs deaths in the U.S. (I think 2007)
http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/20/news/fewer_workers_die_on_job/index.htm
fisherman die at a rate of 111 per 100,000 (annual). Iraq soliders 7 per month per 146,000. Check my math, but I think I could say this:
Commercial fishing is nearly twice as dangerous as fighting in the War in Iraq.
All I'm asking for is the numbers from September of 2007 for comparison. To be objective. To get a more accurate assessment of the trends in Afghanistan and Iraq.
September 25th, 2008 at 9:53 amI support Obama's position to add addition troop levels and other resources to stabilize the situation in Afghanistan and address combatants in Pakistan.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/07/20/obama_urges_increase_in_us_for.html
September 25th, 2008 at 10:00 amOh yeah, George. Your legacy is firmly cemented at this point!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:25 pm