Lawmakers Would Prefer McCain Butt Out Of Their Bailout Negotiations
Lawmakers Would Prefer McCain Butt Out Of Their Bailout Negotiations
Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) abruptly announced that he was suspending his presidential campaign in order “to return to Washington to help forge an agreement on a proposed $700 billion bailout of financial institutions before Congress.” Top McCain aide Mark Salter told the Washington Post that McCain wanted to lock himself “in a room for the next 100 hours” with Sen. Barack Obama, congressional leaders and administration officials until they can “achieve some kind of consensus on something that will have the congress’s support.”
But lawmakers on Capitol Hill are not enthusiastic about the presidential candidates injecting themselves. Time’s Jay Newton-Small reported last night that “leaders from the left and the right rejected the idea of McCain and Obama taking over the talks”:
But leaders from the left and the right rejected the idea of McCain and Obama taking over the talks. When asked by reporters if he wanted McCain sitting in blow-by-blow negotiations Rep. Adam Putnam, the No. 3 House Republican, simply smirked, mute for ten seconds as reporters laughed. Democrats were more voiciferous in their rejection of McCain-Obama negotiations; New York Senator Chuck Schumer and Rep. Jim Clyburn, the No. 3 House Dem, both said if McCain had really cared where have he — and his staff — been in the negotiations thus far.
Putnam told Politico that “McCain and Obama were most valuable in speaking to the need for action rather than getting into the legislative details.” Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL), the ranking Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, indicated he didn’t want McCain’s help, pointing “McCain away from the House and toward the Senate.” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said the candidates return would “not be particularly helpful.”
House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA), who is one of the chief negotiators of the bailout proposal, derided McCain’s “late entry into the negotiations“:
“McCain is Andy Kaufman in his Mighty Mouse costume – ‘Here I Come to Save the Day,’” Frank said as he left a Thursday morning caucus meeting with House Democrats, saying the Republican presidential candidate’s decision to enter the mix “is not helpful.”
“He hasn’t been involved,” Frank said. “He doesn’t know anything about it.”
Frank also mocked the idea that McCain could help with the details, quipping, “I guess if I wanted expertise there, I’d ask Sarah Palin.” One anonymous Republican ridiculed McCain’s plan to jump into negotiations, telling the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank, “Daddy’s coming home.”
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McCain, after flailing miserably, is trying to save his image in this last ditch ‘photo-op’… and its not working.
September 25th, 2008 at 11:54 amWhen asked by reporters if he wanted McCain sitting in blow-by-blow negotiations Rep. Adam Putnam, the No. 3 House Republican, simply smirked, mute for ten seconds as reporters laughed.
You can’t buy this kind of advertising!
September 25th, 2008 at 11:54 amDamn, these guys are good! They know how to throw the bombs so that the MSM looks their way …
This is all attempt to again get Obama to debate on McCain’s terms in his only style that works: townhalls. Remember McCain also said that he would stop negative ads if Obama would debate him his townhall style?
What exactly would McCain accomplish in Washington?
September 25th, 2008 at 11:58 amAs I wrote elsewhere:
I’m poring back in memory, over all the touchstones of McCain’s recent public life, and it’s all starting to make sense: his “stands” on tobacco litigation, campaign finance, immigration, taxes, even (briefly) torture. All ultimately about a self-dramatist creating a drama at which he is the center.
All failed efforts, but one now sees that success or failure – or principle – was not at all the point, ever. Who cares about those things when you get to be at the center of a great drama?
So now, as with canceling the first night of his own convention (over a storm, incidentally, that inconvenienced no one), he is lurching from one dramatic centerpiece to the next, trying to upset the metrics of this election, trying to recapture that old magic. In a moment when calm is called for, he sets his hair afire.
September 25th, 2008 at 11:58 amObama has been meeting daily with economists and party officials to keep abreast of what’s going on with the negotiations. McBush did absolutely NOTHING until he decided that Congress needed his help to figure things out. Right….
Obama has said that he doesn’t want to inject presidential politics into the deliberations and that he is available any time they want to talk to him.
Now that’s presidential….
September 25th, 2008 at 11:59 amBadmoodman Says:
I’m poring back in memory, over all the touchstones of McCain’s recent public life, and it’s all starting to make sense: his “stands” on tobacco litigation, campaign finance, immigration, taxes, even (briefly) torture. All ultimately about a self-dramatist creating a drama at which he is the center.
If you want to know what McCain’s motivations are, read this excellent article:
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/848709 (this is the print version, easier to read without all the ads, just close the “print” window).
The author points out that McCain’s morph into a “maverick” was shortly after the Keating 5 scandal. It was his way of trying to rehabilitate his image. The problem is that all these years he has talked the talk, but not walked the walk. If you look at his voting record, there is no “maverick” in it.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmDelightfully, McCainiac’s idea has fallen quickly on its face.
Sorry pal, get your ass down to Mississippi, on Friday, September 26th.
No candidate will debate on their own terms. They will do so on our terms in conjunction with the University of Mississippi.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmTop McCain aide Mark Salter told the Washington Post that McCain wanted to lock himself “in a room for the next 100 hours” with Sen. Barack Obama…
… it was the only way Grampy could think of to keep Obama from further extending his lead in the polls.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmKeep the bull out of the china shop!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pmMcCain thought he could get in a jab with his Country fist.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pmHey, how ’bout letting Ms. Pit-bull Lipstick sit in for McBailout in Friday’s debate? LOL
¶ AIO
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pmWell, McCain did claim that only he knows how to solve the economic problems that we are facing. As I recall, he made the same claim about finding/capturing Bin Laden. Maybe he’ll have to postpone the second debate because he is needed on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border region. Tell Palin to pick up your cape and tights at the dry cleaners Johnny, up up and away!!!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:06 pmYea, we really need Johnny Boy and his vast Keating-5 experience to help bail us out now.
I bet that McCindy doesn’t even let him have the check book or any credit cards in his own name.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:08 pmLet’s not forget that he also “knows how to win wars” and that he will “wipe out greed!”
September 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pmDoc Rock Says:
Keep the bull out of the china shop!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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Wouldn’t the Capitol be more of a bull shop?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pmmk3872 Says:
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What exactly would McCain accomplish in Washington?
I don’t know. Maybe he will unveil a new plan to deregulate the financial sector.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:12 pmFor those familiar with McCain’s role in causing the USS Forrestal disaster one would think this was another of his “Wet Start” antics. However, I think we will find that it isn’t even a credible “wet dream.”
September 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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Top McCain aide Mark Salter told the Washington Post that McCain wanted to lock himself “in a room for the next 100 hours” with Sen. Barack Obama…
… it was the only way Grampy could think of to keep Obama from further extending his lead in the polls.
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——————————————————————————–There isn’t enough lexapro in the world to keep me in the same room as Mcliar for 100 hours.
tony and lido
ps. He just ran two campaign ads in 10 minutes. Liar about everything.
tony and lido
September 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
McCain: “but…but…guys — you don’t understand! I need an excuse to get out of this debate!”
Other Senators: “Sorry, Johnny — you’ve been gone too long, and we just don’t have the time to get you back up to speed on things.”
September 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pmmk3872 Says:
What exactly would McCain accomplish in Washington?
September 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am
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I’m guessing he’s going for personal reasons. As a seven-fold homeowner, John McCain does have a vested interest in propping up the mortgage industry.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pmLet me just say that I love Barney Frank.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pmThis is blowing up in mccains face. Just as the palin choice did…..it just took a little longer for the palin choice to be proven to be a big mistake.
If this guy thinks we want him running our country as he has run his campaign then he is wrong.
Funny to watch even his own party snub him for this grand gesture with no legs.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pmMcCain in the Financial meetings:
September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
mk3872 Says:
What exactly would McCain accomplish in Washington?
McCain wants to get everyone in a romm for 100 hours. That way, he won’t have to go to the debate. So, his goal is obvious. McCain is going to Washington to throw a monkey wrench into the negotiations in order to delay an agreement.
McCain said Wednesday that he would skip the debate in Oxford, Miss., if a deal on a bailout plan was not reached by Friday.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080925/NEWS09/809250388/-1/ENT06
September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pmMcCain to Palin, “Sarah, my financial senses are tingling! Hand me my cape and mask, I’m needed in Warshington!”
Palin, “Should I call The University of Mississippi and tell them “thanks, but no thanks for the debate”?
McCain, “Oh shit, was that this week? Yeah Sarah, see if they’ll reschedule it for October 8th, I should be done saving the economy by then.”
Palin, “We’ll have to postpone the Vice Presidential debates John, are you sure?”
McCain(standing on the window ledge wearing a hotel sheet around his neck, tighty-whities on the outside of his trousers), “Of course I’m sure, Sarah, COUNTRY FIRST! Up up and …..ah damnit, I shit myself again!”
Palin, “Come on maverick, get down from there and climb up onto the changing table like a good boy.”
McCain (lying prone, holding his feet in the air), “OOH it’s a stinky one. Can I have some warm milk when you’re done? WHOO COLD HANDS YOU TROLLOPY C#NT!!”
September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pmbush and mccain want Obama to meet to pick his brain for solutions, sure funny that Obama speaks and bush uses those ideas a few weeks later. Lame mccain, guess Goldwater was right about mccain years ago. And don’t forget mccain will hold his breath if he doesn’t get his way.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:25 pm> said that he would stop negative
> ads if Obama would debate
> him his townhall style?
SO glad obama never did this. you KNOW they were going to set him up with mc-caine-ites asking loaded, emotionally charged “when did you stop being a muslim” type quesion…
September 25th, 2008 at 12:26 pmSo, to hell with Mississippi 5.5 million cost to prepare for this debate, a debate that would take about 2 hours. Country first you know. Wonder how that feels that deciders don’t want you in their meetings deciding.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pmtexaslady, you make a good point. Once an agreement is reached, McCain wants to be in Washington to take credit for it.
However, he better watch out while he is in Washington. I’m sure Jim Webb is still pissed about McCain taking credit for Webb’s GI Bill.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:29 pmThe Media need to push for answers how Rick Davis can continue to draw $15,000 a month for lobbying, when he is working for mccain ? Running money probably. Even if mccain were an honorable man which I don’t think he is, doesn’t his lack of good judgement regarding his staff make anyone else wonder ?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pmalphainfinityomega Says
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Hey, how ’bout letting Ms. Pit-bull Lipstick sit in for McBailout in Friday’s debate? LOL
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That’s been suggested several times — usually as a joke, but some have actually been serious.
While it would no doubt show how woefully unprepared Palin is for the second highest office in the land, it’s basically a no-win for Obama.
First, Obama would have nothing to gain by this. The expectation would be that he would clean Palin’s clock (which he could do handily with no problem), but there’s no way for him to exceed expectations.
Second, Obama debating Palin would be like a Maserati never getting out of first gear. Obama wouldn’t get a chance to show his top performance. At least McCain would present a slightly greater challenge.
Third, McCain would score more political points by NOT showing up at the debate and sending Palin instead. There are some who would see that as McCain having such disdain for Obama’s abilities that he would send in his second stringer. Most of us wouldn’t be fooled by that stunt, but McCain would do better with that than he would by actually participating in the debate.
And fourth, after Obama got done completely exposing Palin’s unfitness for office, the McCain spinmeisters would go to work. They would brand Obama as cruel, bullying, and sexist. Not that any of that would stick, but that wouldn’t stop them from trying.
Obama would have nothing to gain from such a scenario. Yes, he could crush Palin. But Palin seems to be doing a good job of that all by herself.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pmTop McCain aide Mark Salter told the Washington Post that McCain wanted to lock himself “in a room for the next 100 hours”
I have a better idea. How about McNumbNuts locks himself in a room for another five and a half years. We know he can do it — he was a POW you know.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pmGrampy McGonnaDieSoon says – My friends congress needs my Economics expertise, I may not be an expert on economics but I know how to fix wall street, I have been part of fixing wall street for many years, you just get some duct tape, that’s right duct tape, that stuff will fix anything, just duct tape the whole place and everything will be fine, see, that was easy, I need to stay in Washington because Obama will kick my butt in a one on one debate, and after this last week with reporters and the public saying “WTF?” on just about every move I make, I have to use this crisis thing to keep from tanking in the polls even more, and maybe I can get the VP debates cancelled also, Moosejaw couldn’t win a debate with a 12 year old, much less that mean old Joe Biden…..I think I sat on a caribou burger….
You would get sooooo pwned in a debate, chickensh!t McStain.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:35 pmJohn McCain expressed confidence Thursday that Congress and the Bush administration can reach consensus before markets open Monday on a $700 billion bailout plan to rescue financial institutions from crippling debt.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/mccain
Yes, an agreement can be reached after the threat of the debate is past.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:37 pmShoeless – Jim Webb is a different breed than mccain, he understands decency and honor earning his way on his own. Jim Webb said in his book, that after winning the primary the repubs had been so nasty he felt like he needed a shower. Repubs can’t play using issues, only lies and deceit.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:38 pmYou summed it up well, missmolly.
I think a better alternative — if McChicken Little makes good on his threat — would be to swap the VP debate into tomorrow night’s slot.
Oh, the humanity! Even NASCAR, WWF and Ultimate Fighting fans would be entertained by the carnage. Can you just imagine? A moose named Sarah would be disemboweled, eviscerated and field-dressed right there on national TV.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:39 pmPalin won’t reveal her finances until after debate
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/palin_finances;_ylt=ApU2hXcyK1C.GG.eMdgbOSnCw5R4
September 25th, 2008 at 12:39 pmWell now that mccain spoke I can start to breathe again, so glad, mccain solved the problem, in just a few hours too. Wow amazing ! IDIOT !
September 25th, 2008 at 12:40 pmWell then time for the Friday debate is open again right ?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:40 pmI say Obama’s team tell McCain’s team “We’re willing to consider swap the first presidential debate with the V.P. debate, but that will be the only concession.”
Put it back on McCain. Palin’s not ready this week, but she won’t be ready next week, either.
Either McCain debates Obama tomorrow, or Palin debates Biden. All other options are off the table.
PEACE
September 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pmspencers mom Says:
Either McCain debates Obama tomorrow, or Palin debates Biden. All other options are off the table.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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Or Obama debates an empty podium, which would be a substantial improvement over debating McCain.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pmSpeaking of Failin’ Palin, here’s a peek at her personal diary from her “coming out party” with all the world leaders in NYC this week:
8:00 am – Greeted by Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. Korean, I guess. (It’s always so hard to tell.)
8:11 – Met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai; the guy could pass for Ben Kingsley. Discussed post-war plans, modernization, tons of stuff.
8:12 – Met with President Alvaro Uribe; compared Columbia’s cocaine with Wasilla’s meth problems.
8:13 – Met with Israeli Ambassador Daniel Carmon. Clever comb-over; couldn’t spot one horn on his head. Still beats the hell out of me why God chose that particular people.
8:14 – Breakfast with the U.N.’s Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin. Didn’t mention I watch him get undressed every night.
9:00 am – Posed for new passport picture. No reporters were allowed.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pmThis stunt suggest to me a new nickname: John Drama-McQueen
but never mind that. As this farce unfolds it seems McCain is simply planning to vote NO on the bailout plan.
Why?
Because ‘Plan A From Outa Paulson’s Ass’is really bad?
Not at all.
Yesterday instead of hunkering down with his fellow congress critters to at least get an idea about The Plan, McCain was instead busy not-suspending his campaign with a photo-op and an interview with Catie Couric.
McCain is apparently planning to vote against The Plan without actually knowing what it proposes.He’s not voting on principle or from informed opinion but purely from political calculation–he HAS to vote NO to get his poll figures back up.
Ironically though Palin repeated the new official Republican talking point that if The Plan was NOT approved we’d have another Great Depression!
So if McCain votes NO, then he contradicts Palin and if he votes YES he contradicts popular opinion. What do you bo, McDramaQueen…what do you do?
September 25th, 2008 at 1:05 pmThank You Barney Frank for speaking the truth without mincing words, oh, and for injecting humor where needed -
“McCain is Andy Kaufman in his Mighty Mouse costume – ‘Here I Come to Save the Day,’” Frank said…
“He hasn’t been involved,” Frank said. “He doesn’t know anything about it.”
September 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pmI swear you guys are cracking me up. It’s so obvious mcchimpy is not prepared for the debates or for the presidency.
Stevie, Ray and three blind mice can see mcchimpy’s is putting on another bad stunt.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pmUh oh, the bill is now finalized.
What will be the excuse du jour for Ole Johnny now?
PEACE
September 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pmmcchimpy needs some down time to catch up on his sleep so he’s going to washington.
Ok mcchimpy who is going to answer the 3am call when your old ass can’t be up at 8:30 in the morning?
September 25th, 2008 at 1:22 pmThey have just come to an agreement on the bailout.
Now I wonder what excuse Grampy will have.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pmWell, it became quickly evident what McBush is up to. He wants to reschedule the Presidential debate on October 2 and then find a new date (like never) for the Vice Presidential debate.
I suspect after seeing clips of Palin’s Katie Couric interview they realized they need to keep her as far away as possible from any more interviews or debates.
And then there’s the inconvenient truth of the fact that McCain’s numbers are tanking.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pmMcMightyMouse!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
September 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pmDemocrats don’t have to do a thing, McDrain is destroying himself quite well.
Even his own party wonders what he could possibly do to contribute the resolution of the rescue package – except hang around DC and spew some more monsensical statements, maybe get some pointers from Shrub…
September 25th, 2008 at 1:42 pmYou can’t say McCain wasn’t working the problem. See
this for example.
McCain pushed reform in 2006.
McCain said:
Congress did not act.
What legislation did Obama support? Any? He voted against the bill!
September 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pmWhat a pitiful excuse of a candidate to ride in after a week of work both sides have done and try to take the glory for something he has nothing to do with. Does he think the whole world is as crazy as he and his running mate and their base, of course. This is laughable. McSame can’t spell banking committee for which he is not a member.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:54 pm#55 Rick Y Says:
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You can’t say McCain wasn’t working the problem. See
this for example.
McCain pushed reform in 2006.
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Please look up the words reform and regulate in the dictionary so that you will quit confusing them. McSame has never supported regulation. McSame is the great deregulator. You can reform a bad thing into another bad thing. Don’t confuse the words. Only conservatives are that stupid.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:56 pmI’d prefer he “butt out” period.
desperate, naked grasping ambition, with 0% honesty to back it up. old, opportunistic hack of the highest order. makes Boehner look talented and forthright.
only in Arizona (or Alaska) could someone so bad persist for so long
September 25th, 2008 at 1:57 pmRick Y
Today, the Hill reports that McCain “has not introduced any banking or housing bills in the 110th Congress, while Democratic rival Barack Obama has proposed five”
September 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pmtombaker
“only in Arizona (or Alaska) could someone so bad persist for so long”
Or in the White House
September 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pmGODDAMN CRIMINAL LIARS, LOOTING OUR TREASURY AGAIN:
NEW YORK (CNN) — “I have great, great confidence in our capital markets and in our financial institutions. Our financial institutions, banks and investment banks, are strong. Our capital markets are resilient. They’re efficient. They’re flexible.”
– Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, March 16, 2008
“Our policy in this administration — laws shouldn’t bail out lenders, laws shouldn’t help speculators.”
– President Bush, May 19, 2008
“Our economy has continued growing, consumers are spending, business are investing, exports continue increasing and American productivity remains strong. We can have confidence in the long-term foundation of our economy…I think the system basically is sound. I truly do.”
– President Bush, July 15, 2008
September 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pmA call to arms for progressive bloggers!!!!
Liberals, please come to Speak Free Politics it’s an easy to use message board blog dominated by right wingers. My name there is osamabinforgotten. I need to recruit some lefty bloggers as i am being ganged up on and called a terrorist for being a liberal. All bloggers are invited to come there and check it out.
Johnny B. Goode!
Deep down in Arizona close to Mexico
Way back up in the cactuses where it never snows
There stood an ancient mansion made of gold and wood
Where lived a a corrupt politician named Johnny B Goode
Who’d never learned the difference between Sunni or Shia so well
But he could pretend to chase Osama to the gates of Hell
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
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Go! Go! Johnny B. Goode!
He used to carry his bribe money in a gunnysack
Go sit beneath a tree and count his Keating kickbacks
Old lobbyist on K street would see him sittin’ in the shade
Laughing at the doubletalk and flip flops he made
The people passed him by they would stop and say
Oh my but that little old mummy really hates the gays
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
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Go! Go! Johnny B. Goode!
Once upon time the state of Arizona couldn’t host a superbowl
Because it was legislated by a group of white supremacist trolls
The bigots were led by an angry fascist who was a goose-stepping man
A millionaire, senator who belonged to the Klu Klux Klan
Johnny B Goode was a maverick when it came to recognizing MLK
So the old cracker donned his klan robe and voted against a holiday
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
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Go! Go! Johnny B. Goode!
His mother told him someday you will be an old man
And you will be the leader of a murderous criminal clan
Many people will be blown to bits from miles around
To see you launch the nukes and take us all down
Maybe some day you will make mushroom clouds so bright
Sayin’ “Johnny B Goode pushed the button tonight”
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
September 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pmGo! Go! Go! Johnny!
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
Go! Go! Go! Johnny!
Go! Go! Johnny B. Goode!
And yet McIIIrd is using this as an excuse to not show up for a debate on Friday?
September 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pmHe doesn’t want his mini stroke to be shown on national prime time, obviously.
Rick Y Says:
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You can’t say McCain wasn’t working the problem. See
this for example.
McCain pushed reform in 2006.
McCain said:
“If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
Congress did not act.
What legislation did Obama support? Any? He voted against the bill!
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Hey Ricky you are an idiot. This was 05 NOT 06 and NO ONE voted against this bill since it never made it out of comittee. This hivemind talking point has been destroyed a half dozen times you are spewing defunct propaganda here try to keep up. Try to remember being a moron is not contagious we are not going to catch it from reading your idiocy. It only makes YOU look dumb it doesnt spread to and convince actual human beings
September 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pmWhen asked if being a buffoon would handicap his presidency, McCain said, “I don’t know why it would. It hasn’t hurt George, has it?”
September 26th, 2008 at 2:20 am