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		<title>By: youtube</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/26/bailout-deal-blunt/comment-page-2/#comment-5615897</link>
		<dc:creator>youtube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dostcafem.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sohbet&lt;/a&gt;Sallie Mae put a hold on that and actually has the nerve to tell you on the phone that it&#039;s not is not good for students to consolidate econmically based on the current rates. So getting 7% instead of 10 to 18+ is bad? Come on lol.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dostcafem.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cet&lt;/a&gt;Companies like that have been pushing deregulation in that market heavily. They&#039;ve removed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dostcafem.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bedava mp3 indir&lt;/a&gt;basic bankruptcy protections entirely. They&#039;ve managed to get things federally guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a>Sallie Mae put a hold on that and actually has the nerve to tell you on the phone that it&#8217;s not is not good for students to consolidate econmically based on the current rates. So getting 7% instead of 10 to 18+ is bad? Come on lol.<br />
<a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">cet</a>Companies like that have been pushing deregulation in that market heavily. They&#8217;ve removed <a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">Bedava mp3 indir</a>basic bankruptcy protections entirely. They&#8217;ve managed to get things federally guaranteed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5615897', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan C. Says: 
Frosty Cupcake, if the situation weren’t so bad I would laugh my ass off remembering squeegeeboo and probably Hacker Bob, that the marke would solve everything. 

Well, if by market you mean the state’s regulation, you got it. 

Now, how did it happen? How is it happen that by mere speculation you have a 700 billion dollar debt? 

I sincerely ask.
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This is how it happens. They got rid of Glass Steagal which allowed the financial markets to get into bed with banks. The banks then went hog wild making any loans they could and didnt care if they would ever be paid back because they bundled them and sold them to the financial institutions. When they ran out of reasonable loans to make they went into poor neighborhoods to find people who were cash poor but equity rich because they bought their homes decades ago and aggressively sold refinances that they KNEW would never be paid back for the same reason they werent going to hold them. The financial institutions also did not CARE if the loans were good when they bought them because as they grew with paper assets they paid themselves unGODLY bonuses and they knew when it all fell down the taxpayers would bail them out because this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. They KNEW it was a house of cards that would fall eventually but they also knew there was no downside for THEM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan C. Says:<br />
Frosty Cupcake, if the situation weren’t so bad I would laugh my ass off remembering squeegeeboo and probably Hacker Bob, that the marke would solve everything. </p>
<p>Well, if by market you mean the state’s regulation, you got it. </p>
<p>Now, how did it happen? How is it happen that by mere speculation you have a 700 billion dollar debt? </p>
<p>I sincerely ask.<br />
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<p>This is how it happens. They got rid of Glass Steagal which allowed the financial markets to get into bed with banks. The banks then went hog wild making any loans they could and didnt care if they would ever be paid back because they bundled them and sold them to the financial institutions. When they ran out of reasonable loans to make they went into poor neighborhoods to find people who were cash poor but equity rich because they bought their homes decades ago and aggressively sold refinances that they KNEW would never be paid back for the same reason they werent going to hold them. The financial institutions also did not CARE if the loans were good when they bought them because as they grew with paper assets they paid themselves unGODLY bonuses and they knew when it all fell down the taxpayers would bail them out because this country has ALWAYS had socialism for the rich. They KNEW it was a house of cards that would fall eventually but they also knew there was no downside for THEM.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5254010', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chiefeditor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.entertonement.com/clips/30368/Roy-Blunt/Roy-Blunt-On-Bailout-Problems/Stopped-the-deal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ouch -- no love lost here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.entertonement.com/clips/30368/Roy-Blunt/Roy-Blunt-On-Bailout-Problems/Stopped-the-deal" rel="nofollow">Ouch &#8212; no love lost here.</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just saying that Blunt&#039;s words were taken out of context.  TP should pull their clip or play the full clip.  Otherwise, it&#039;s not credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying that Blunt&#8217;s words were taken out of context.  TP should pull their clip or play the full clip.  Otherwise, it&#8217;s not credible.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253078', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well gee b-kup. Where&#039;s the multitude of voices saying ol&#039; Flippy wasn&#039;t instrumental in killing the deal? Even if it was just by drawing greater scrutiny through his odd political maneuvering? 

Don&#039;t get me wrong. It&#039;s quite possible that he did us all a great service. But, whether it works to his ultimate advantage or not, he&#039;s getting the blame/credit. And he&#039;s brought it upon himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well gee b-kup. Where&#8217;s the multitude of voices saying ol&#8217; Flippy wasn&#8217;t instrumental in killing the deal? Even if it was just by drawing greater scrutiny through his odd political maneuvering? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. It&#8217;s quite possible that he did us all a great service. But, whether it works to his ultimate advantage or not, he&#8217;s getting the blame/credit. And he&#8217;s brought it upon himself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253070', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second.  Here&#039;s that 5 second clip in a broader context.  5 seconds before Blunt describes McCain as &#039;helpful&#039;.  

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/blunt_blunter_bluntest_mccain.php

There is plenty to go after McCain and republicans without intentionally taking words out of context.

There&#039;s better stuff out there.  TP should pull this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second.  Here&#8217;s that 5 second clip in a broader context.  5 seconds before Blunt describes McCain as &#8216;helpful&#8217;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/blunt_blunter_bluntest_mccain.php" rel="nofollow">http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/blunt_blunter_bluntest_mccain.php</a></p>
<p>There is plenty to go after McCain and republicans without intentionally taking words out of context.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s better stuff out there.  TP should pull this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253038', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What puzzles me is the Democrats assumption that not caving to the bailout would be politically damaging.
It will, only to the extent they allow themselves to be targeted by repukes.
And, if the economy tanks. They have the majority in both houses, and determine what bills get acted upon.
Take the bill that was almost agreed upon, add consumer protections and stimulus actions to it, send it to Bush and let him veto it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What puzzles me is the Democrats assumption that not caving to the bailout would be politically damaging.<br />
It will, only to the extent they allow themselves to be targeted by repukes.<br />
And, if the economy tanks. They have the majority in both houses, and determine what bills get acted upon.<br />
Take the bill that was almost agreed upon, add consumer protections and stimulus actions to it, send it to Bush and let him veto it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play Presidential Debate Bingo tonight:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/debatebingo/azc_bingo.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play Presidential Debate Bingo tonight:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/debatebingo/azc_bingo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/debatebingo/azc_bingo.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253014', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Crusty Old Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusty Old Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment number is true except for the sawdust and Uncle Estel&#039;s degree.  He was an Agriculturist. Daddy had to sell, or eat, the cows because he couldn&#039;t afford the grain or other meat and the same with Uncle Estel. Daddy moved to California, on the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe and we stopped less than 15 miles from where we are now, and finally retired as a small business owner.  Uncle Estel retired from the College in Joplin, MO, and bought another chicken farm.  Neither Daddy nor I ever beat him in a Checkers game!

Thanks for the memories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment number is true except for the sawdust and Uncle Estel&#8217;s degree.  He was an Agriculturist. Daddy had to sell, or eat, the cows because he couldn&#8217;t afford the grain or other meat and the same with Uncle Estel. Daddy moved to California, on the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe and we stopped less than 15 miles from where we are now, and finally retired as a small business owner.  Uncle Estel retired from the College in Joplin, MO, and bought another chicken farm.  Neither Daddy nor I ever beat him in a Checkers game!</p>
<p>Thanks for the memories!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253010', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;POW&quot; is hard to predict, Barfly. He may decide to go off on a string of &quot;lived in a box&#039;s&quot; which would just lead to dispute. Of course, he may end up huddled in a corner and babbling &quot;POW&quot; for the last hour so, I will decline from wagering on &quot;POW&quot;.

But, I&#039;m willing to bet that, given the 9X10 minute format, he will provide at least 17 minutes of babbling nonsense about something other than the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;POW&#8221; is hard to predict, Barfly. He may decide to go off on a string of &#8220;lived in a box&#8217;s&#8221; which would just lead to dispute. Of course, he may end up huddled in a corner and babbling &#8220;POW&#8221; for the last hour so, I will decline from wagering on &#8220;POW&#8221;.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m willing to bet that, given the 9X10 minute format, he will provide at least 17 minutes of babbling nonsense about something other than the topic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253006', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bamboozled</title>
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		<dc:creator>bamboozled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me awhile to see this whole fiasco from a different perspective but the alternative I imagined has thus far at least remained a solid possibility. I believe that this is much more about re-establishing McCain as a &quot;maverick&quot; rather than rendering him as having economic expertise, effective at shaping policy, or really anything else. By having flown back and disrupting the policy discussions he will now be able to claim that he &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; in fact broken with his party and on a crucial issue. This can be explained as the proposal not putting &quot;country first&quot; etc. because it basically doesn&#039;t matter. What matters is that he interfered with the proposal that Republican leadership was in favor of. Therefore McCain is still the maverick that he was in the past and this is just another recent example. I would be willing to wager, well not quite $700 billion, that he presents this way of framing the events during the debate tonight. In sum, this is much more about positioning himself &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; the Republicans and Bush rather than being primarily about anything related to Obama and the Democrats. Recall the absolute lack of mention of the GOP or Republican party as a whole at their own convention. Sadly, this also means that &lt;em&gt;once again&lt;/em&gt; the Democrats have been outmaneuvered politically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me awhile to see this whole fiasco from a different perspective but the alternative I imagined has thus far at least remained a solid possibility. I believe that this is much more about re-establishing McCain as a &#8220;maverick&#8221; rather than rendering him as having economic expertise, effective at shaping policy, or really anything else. By having flown back and disrupting the policy discussions he will now be able to claim that he <em>has</em> in fact broken with his party and on a crucial issue. This can be explained as the proposal not putting &#8220;country first&#8221; etc. because it basically doesn&#8217;t matter. What matters is that he interfered with the proposal that Republican leadership was in favor of. Therefore McCain is still the maverick that he was in the past and this is just another recent example. I would be willing to wager, well not quite $700 billion, that he presents this way of framing the events during the debate tonight. In sum, this is much more about positioning himself <em>against</em> the Republicans and Bush rather than being primarily about anything related to Obama and the Democrats. Recall the absolute lack of mention of the GOP or Republican party as a whole at their own convention. Sadly, this also means that <em>once again</em> the Democrats have been outmaneuvered politically.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5253002', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kuttner/fishing-in-troubled-water_b_129567.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kuttner/fishing-in-troubled-water_b_129567.html&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;A better plan would have two core elements: First, most of the government money goes to refinance mortgages rather than buy up bad paper. Once the mortgage market stabilizes, some value returns to the bonds backed by mortgages. That way, homeowners are the primary beneficiaries, not the incidental ones.&lt;/em&gt;

I think I just said that yesterday. But will the Dems do it? No.
They already caved to the whacked out repugnican thugs who bizarrely insisted that this NOT be a piece of it.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-deal-that-blew-up_b_129521.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-deal-that-blew-up_b_129521.html&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;em&gt;This &quot;requires&quot; modifications on mortgages that are picked up in the bailout. What is missing is the logical authority to allow bankruptcy courts to work out mortgages. It is bizarre that Paulson, Wall Street and Republicans have decided to oppose what would be the most logical way to work out bad mortgages -- a hearing officer on a case by case basis deciding the best way to proceed.&lt;/em&gt;

As an unlettered non-physician, I recommend high doses of antihelminthic therapy for Wall Street and its denizens.
(You know. Anti-parasite drugs. Generic ones, please.)</description>
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<p><em>A better plan would have two core elements: First, most of the government money goes to refinance mortgages rather than buy up bad paper. Once the mortgage market stabilizes, some value returns to the bonds backed by mortgages. That way, homeowners are the primary beneficiaries, not the incidental ones.</em></p>
<p>I think I just said that yesterday. But will the Dems do it? No.<br />
They already caved to the whacked out repugnican thugs who bizarrely insisted that this NOT be a piece of it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-deal-that-blew-up_b_129521.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-deal-that-blew-up_b_129521.html</a><br />
<em>This &#8220;requires&#8221; modifications on mortgages that are picked up in the bailout. What is missing is the logical authority to allow bankruptcy courts to work out mortgages. It is bizarre that Paulson, Wall Street and Republicans have decided to oppose what would be the most logical way to work out bad mortgages &#8212; a hearing officer on a case by case basis deciding the best way to proceed.</em></p>
<p>As an unlettered non-physician, I recommend high doses of antihelminthic therapy for Wall Street and its denizens.<br />
(You know. Anti-parasite drugs. Generic ones, please.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252982', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Crusty Old Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusty Old Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way back during the &quot;Great&quot; one my Dear Departed Daddy and my Unsparing and Unselfish Uncle were old Missouri dirt farmers and Uncle Estel was an Economics Professor as well. Daddy ran a small dairy and Uncle Estel owned a chicken farm that sold eggs.  They were, as expected having trouble making things work as we are today, so they devised a scheme to double their profits.  Bit by bit Daddy substituted sawdust in the grain he fed the cows and his profits increased accordingly.  Uncle Estel found that by selling a few of his laying hens for fryers he could increase his profits. One Sunday they were celebrating their success with fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and gravy when they realized they had just eaten the last of the chickens and used the last of the milk in the gravy.  That is exactly the point we find ourselves at today.  The cows are dead and the chickens have been et up and us old plow horses are too tired to plant taters no more.

Where is FDR when we need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back during the &#8220;Great&#8221; one my Dear Departed Daddy and my Unsparing and Unselfish Uncle were old Missouri dirt farmers and Uncle Estel was an Economics Professor as well. Daddy ran a small dairy and Uncle Estel owned a chicken farm that sold eggs.  They were, as expected having trouble making things work as we are today, so they devised a scheme to double their profits.  Bit by bit Daddy substituted sawdust in the grain he fed the cows and his profits increased accordingly.  Uncle Estel found that by selling a few of his laying hens for fryers he could increase his profits. One Sunday they were celebrating their success with fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and gravy when they realized they had just eaten the last of the chickens and used the last of the milk in the gravy.  That is exactly the point we find ourselves at today.  The cows are dead and the chickens have been et up and us old plow horses are too tired to plant taters no more.</p>
<p>Where is FDR when we need him?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252974', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kasinca</title>
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		<dc:creator>kasinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics as usual with the repugs. They are the root cause of the problem, their man, Dubya is still in the WH and asking for the bailout from their failure.  Now they are trying to find a way to blame their failures on the Democrats.  Nothing new here.  Obstruction and failure...the republican way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics as usual with the repugs. They are the root cause of the problem, their man, Dubya is still in the WH and asking for the bailout from their failure.  Now they are trying to find a way to blame their failures on the Democrats.  Nothing new here.  Obstruction and failure&#8230;the republican way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252970', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUAN C.,

I was for the Bailout until I read this:

DON&#039;T TAKE THE BAIT: How to Lose an Election in 10 Easy Steps 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/23/8591/39629/870/607298

I have two Problems with the Bailout....so far...

1. The Republicans could vote Against it, making political Hay.  A massive bailout of any kind is massively unpopular.

2. It Might Not Work.  NO ONE is on the record saying it WILL so far.

 from the link 
&quot;we&#039;re in an asset devaluation, not a liquidity crisis.  In other words, the problem with the economy isn&#039;t that banks need $1 trillion to feel confident about making more loans.  The problem is that banks leveraged more than the entire world&#039;s GDP in mortgage-backed securities and credit default swaps alone--and that paper is barely worth a fraction of its former outrageously inflated value.  There isn&#039;t enough money to throw at this problem and still make a dent.  And even if you print the money, the rest of the world is likely to call in their chips.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUAN C.,</p>
<p>I was for the Bailout until I read this:</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T TAKE THE BAIT: How to Lose an Election in 10 Easy Steps </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/23/8591/39629/870/607298" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/23/8591/39629/870/607298</a></p>
<p>I have two Problems with the Bailout&#8230;.so far&#8230;</p>
<p>1. The Republicans could vote Against it, making political Hay.  A massive bailout of any kind is massively unpopular.</p>
<p>2. It Might Not Work.  NO ONE is on the record saying it WILL so far.</p>
<p> from the link<br />
&#8220;we&#8217;re in an asset devaluation, not a liquidity crisis.  In other words, the problem with the economy isn&#8217;t that banks need $1 trillion to feel confident about making more loans.  The problem is that banks leveraged more than the entire world&#8217;s GDP in mortgage-backed securities and credit default swaps alone&#8211;and that paper is barely worth a fraction of its former outrageously inflated value.  There isn&#8217;t enough money to throw at this problem and still make a dent.  And even if you print the money, the rest of the world is likely to call in their chips.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If so, take a five point spread.

Mine&#039;s 38-43.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, take a five point spread.</p>
<p>Mine&#8217;s 38-43.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete Says: 

&lt;em&gt;Slightly off topic but…

Is anybody running a contest/pool to accurately predict certain things about tonight’s debate?&lt;/em&gt;

For how many times he mentions his captivity, in a debate answer.

You want in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete Says: </p>
<p><em>Slightly off topic but…</p>
<p>Is anybody running a contest/pool to accurately predict certain things about tonight’s debate?</em></p>
<p>For how many times he mentions his captivity, in a debate answer.</p>
<p>You want in?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252962', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Boehner/Cantor Plan, among other provisions, calls for the removal of “burdensome regulatory and tax barriers” to pull capital into the market:

Instead of injecting taxpayer funds into the market to produce liquidity, &lt;strong&gt;private capital can be drawn into the market by removing burdensome regulatory and tax barriers that are currently blocking private capital formation.&lt;/strong&gt; In short, &lt;strong&gt;too much private capital is sitting on the sidelines during this crisis&lt;/strong&gt;, and it is well past time to unleash it.&lt;/em&gt;

Is he talking about rewriting the tax laws, so that all the companies who went off-shore also can form commercial entities, and offer credit, but with an &quot;insurance&quot; that requires premiums to be paid - to off-shored corporations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Boehner/Cantor Plan, among other provisions, calls for the removal of “burdensome regulatory and tax barriers” to pull capital into the market:</p>
<p>Instead of injecting taxpayer funds into the market to produce liquidity, <strong>private capital can be drawn into the market by removing burdensome regulatory and tax barriers that are currently blocking private capital formation.</strong> In short, <strong>too much private capital is sitting on the sidelines during this crisis</strong>, and it is well past time to unleash it.</em></p>
<p>Is he talking about rewriting the tax laws, so that all the companies who went off-shore also can form commercial entities, and offer credit, but with an &#8220;insurance&#8221; that requires premiums to be paid &#8211; to off-shored corporations?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252956', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Frosty Cupcake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frosty Cupcake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan:

I&#039;m an historian, not an economist, (and pressed for time just now) but I will throw out this:

A constant push for deregulation, starting with Reagan, that has continued through all of the administrations (including Clinton&#039;s) until now.

Hence the &quot;need&quot; for a bailout, mine-safety issues, toxic toys from China, salmonella tainted US produced food, etc. The one thing all these problems have in common is reduced or non-existent oversight and regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an historian, not an economist, (and pressed for time just now) but I will throw out this:</p>
<p>A constant push for deregulation, starting with Reagan, that has continued through all of the administrations (including Clinton&#8217;s) until now.</p>
<p>Hence the &#8220;need&#8221; for a bailout, mine-safety issues, toxic toys from China, salmonella tainted US produced food, etc. The one thing all these problems have in common is reduced or non-existent oversight and regulation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252946', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly off topic but...

Is anybody running a contest/pool to accurately predict certain things about tonight&#039;s debate? Like how many times Flippy says &quot;my friends&quot;? Who will be the first Reichwhiner to claim that the &quot;ultra librul&quot; Jim Lehrer treated the old guy unfairly? And, what&#039;s the over/under on Flippy&#039;s incoherent &quot;senior moments&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off topic but&#8230;</p>
<p>Is anybody running a contest/pool to accurately predict certain things about tonight&#8217;s debate? Like how many times Flippy says &#8220;my friends&#8221;? Who will be the first Reichwhiner to claim that the &#8220;ultra librul&#8221; Jim Lehrer treated the old guy unfairly? And, what&#8217;s the over/under on Flippy&#8217;s incoherent &#8220;senior moments&#8221;?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5252944', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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