Graham on bailout negotiations: ‘You can’t phone something like this in.’
Graham on bailout negotiations: ‘You can’t phone something like this in.’
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) praised Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for returning to Washington to help the bailout negotiations, saying his presence was vital to the negotiations:
John didn’t phone this one in. … You can’t phone something like this in. Thank God John came back.
Watch it:
Of course, though McCain made much of his rushing back to Washington after Friday’s debate, it turns out that he never went to Capitol Hill, where lawmakers stayed late working on the bailout. The New York Times reports that McCain was at his apartment “until 12:30 p.m. Saturday, when he emerged and made a one-minute trip in his motorcade to his campaign headquarters around the corner.” A McCain aide explained that “he can effectively do what he needs to do by phone.”
UPDATE: On ABC’s This Week today, McCain said, “I came back because I wasn’t going to phone it in.” Watch it:
UPDATE II: Politico reports, “As his colleagues worked on the deal at the Capitol Saturday night, McCain and his wife, Cindy, dined with Sen. Joe Lieberman and his wife, Hadassah, at Cafe Mozu inside Washington’s Mandarin Oriental Hotel.”
UPDATE III: The Washington Post has more details on McCain’s disengagement:
In the wake of Thursday’s “disaster,” McCain was no longer interested in remaining locked in negotiations. He spent only 90 minutes on Capitol Hill on Friday, most of it in conversations with House Republicans, trying to persuade them to rejoin talks with Democrats.
House Minority Leader John A. Boehner was “really pissed,” said one participant in the meeting with McCain. Boehner felt as if he had been set up for an “assault” at the White House, the participant said.
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The only thing worse than mclame proclaiming he can lead by making a phone call is when a corrupt political hack that was part of the Savings & Loan shame thinks he can lead in person.
With all of the (still current) connections between mcclame and the deregulation that created this mess – he cannot be part of the solution.
Hey john, how about you just take your wife to some biker strip party instead – you don’t have to wait until Sturgis comes around again.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:03 amNothing like living it up while the “little people” work.
John Wayne McCain to the rescue.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:06 amThis whole fiasco will come to be known as McNumbNuts’ “Suspension Bridge to Nowhere”.
The republicans are necessarily very quiet about his little grandstand stunt right now; however, after the November massacre at the polling booth, they will squeal like pigs about how inept and self-aggrandizing this little twit truly is and has been.
“Country First”? Bullsh!t. This campaign has always been about little Johnny as far as he’s concerned.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:13 amEasy now, Lindsey Graham is my state Senator!! LOL!! What an idiot!!! We need more Dems to move down here like I did to turn this state blue and get rid of Graham and Jim Demint. Both are so far to the right that we can’t even see them anymore.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:16 amI don’t know who’s in charge of vetting the McSame Campaign talking points, but perhaps you’d think they wouldn’t push the “phone it in” line if it had already come out in the media that McSame had actually phoned it in.
Just a thought.
And what’s with the motorcade for going around the corner? I thought we were in the grip of an energy crisis as well. Maybe that’s what they’re saying he’s not going to phone in?
September 28th, 2008 at 10:20 amApparently where the phone is plays a huge role in leadership This guy obviously has a problem walking and chewing gum at the same time God forbid the LIVs elect this moron and 2 things happen at the same time.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:23 amIt was suggested that he text but he didn’t understand the technology.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:23 amSatirev, there’s interesting reading in this link:
http://www.campaignwatch.org/more1.htm
September 28th, 2008 at 10:23 amMcNumbNuts is on “This Week” right now and he is twisting in the wind. I’ll say one thing for him — he has a remarkable capacity to dismiss his own history when it doesn’t serve his purpose. And to make up Obama’s history so that it does serve his purpose. What a complete and total two-faced snot!
And again this morning, he’s not wearing a made-in-China flag pin . . . as was also true during the debate. What’s with that? I know he can’t put it on himself (because he was a POW and was tortured, you know). But, geez, can’t someone take a minute off from cramming Failin’ Palin for her mid-term exam and help the poor guy out?
September 28th, 2008 at 10:26 amlindsey graham reminds me of forest gumps rejected brother.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:31 amSo McStain refused to just “phone it in” until he decided to “phone it in”.
I find it interesting that the McStains dined with J. Sidney’s new running mate, Lieberman, in public.
Will we see Bristol’s shotgun wedding this week? Will Sarah suddenly discover that she has a special needs newborn and have to drop out? Can’t wait to see the theatrics!
PEACE
September 28th, 2008 at 10:33 am>>McCain and his wife, Cindy, dined with Sen. Joe Lieberman and his wife, Hadassah<<
September 28th, 2008 at 10:43 amMcCain always Lieberman as his #2. The political people who own John McCain forced Palin down his throat. Do you think John cast loving eyes toward Joe from across the table at this dinner? No doubt!
I was completely disappointed when George didn’t follow up his last question regarding “former” lobbyists on McCain’s staff no longer benefiting in anyway. McCain outright lied and George gave him a pass. Pitiful.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:45 amBack to the first part of the story: Lindsey Graham is an illiterate. I have no idea how he got elected in the first place and I doubt he has viable transcripts from anywhere but a web store on ebay. His speech at the RNC was incoherent and defied understanding or explanation. If this imbecilic pig wants any more face time with the general public, he had better put on a lot more lipstick. The statements these McCain surrogates make are simply appalling in their assumptive arrogance. Do you suppose Graham understood what I just said?
September 28th, 2008 at 10:55 amThis old guy needed his sleep. Old people do. Makes me wonder what they’re giving him to keep him going. Every page of his medical records need to be made public. Republicans have to ask themselves, would I be nervous and afraid if Grandpa or Great Grandpa was in the White House? How much do the Republicans really care about this country?
September 28th, 2008 at 10:56 amTrixie,
September 28th, 2008 at 10:57 amGeorge Snuffelupagis is an old Clintonista, and I truly feel tat he wants McCain to win so Hillary can run in 2012. Just my opinion.
AMERICA REDUCED TO THIRD WORLD STATUS
By Joan Veon
September 22, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
World history is spotted with stories of political conquests: Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, the Pharaohs, Alexander the Great, and Roman Caesars, each who seized physical control of a country, its economy and assets. History holds no story of a take over based solely on a country’s assets, until now. The modern day Attila’s, Genghis Khan’s, Pharaoh’s, and Caesar’s are the men who own and control the Central Banks of the world. America’s Central Bank is the Federal Reserve, which controls our monetary system, is not part of our governmental system, and, although its name would imply, it has no reserves.
The 13th month of America’s credit crisis may hold its own in history as a country whose economic power and bulk of wealth overnight become the assets of the Federal Reserve. This may well be the finest coup d’état.
For more than a week the news media has been a buzz, clamoring for the need to change our regulatory system. The passage, by Congress, of “The Treasury Blueprint for a Modernized Financial Regulatory System,” will hand over to the Federal Reserve the last vestiges of our financial sovereignty: savings and loans; state chartered banks; thrifts and credit unions; the entire mortgage and insurance systems, as well as oversight of the Payment and Settlement System of Wall Street. In addition, the Feds would gain oversee rights to all of America’s financial markets. (Read “The Treasury Blueprint for a Modernized Financial Regulatory Structure,”).
Most Americans can’t fathom what is really happening. How could something like this happen in America? How did people who lived through the 1929 Crash and Great Depression manage when everything they knew changed overnight? The answer is: they were not in debt the way Americans are today. Multi-generations lived together, all working to pay off the mortgage. Additionally, a great many families lived on farms where they could raise their own food. Today, we are dependent on large banks for our mortgage and debt and big grocery stores for our food rather than our own farm.
We know from various historians that when the stock market crashed in 1929, the Federal Reserve was at fault because they did not put liquidity into the system but took it out, thus exacerbating the Crash and causing the Great Depression. In response, on the day he was sworn in, newly elected President Franklin D. Roosevelt took control of all private ownership of gold when he closed the banks down. He also instituted a number of socialistic measures to put Americans to work with infrastructure projects. Today, the Federal Reserve is putting billions of newly printed dollars into the American and global financial system which will increase the interest on the debt that Americans owe to the Federal Reserve. We have no idea, at this time, what that will do to our purchasing power, but you can be sure that it will drop. In fact, the value of the dollar could drop so low that we will have to merge our currency with Canada, Mexico, and the other countries of this hemisphere, or even forego the proposed Amero for the Special Drawing Right-SDR, a basket of five currencies: the dollar, the Swiss Franc, the British pound sterling, the euro and the yen. The SDR is the currency used by the IMF/World Bank and adopted several years ago by the Bank for International Settlements when they changed from the gold franc to the SDR.
I am grateful to geopolitical expert Terry Hayfield, who introduced me to the writings of Harvard economist Joseph Schumpeter. Schumpeter came up with the idea of creative destruction as a way of saving capitalism, or should we say, transferring the value of capitalism from many to a few powerful insiders? Since capitalism is an ism, like Marxism, socialism, or fascism, you need to prop it up by destroying in order to “save.” Our economy has been propped up by debt: mortgages, credit cards, home equity loans, lines of credit, auto loans, tuition loans, medical loans, Treasury bills, notes and bonds, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, commercial loans, business loans, etc. We must also keep in mind that for every loan interest or a usury is being collected. We are a debtor nation.
Creative Destruction is the key component, as seen in most of this past weeks headlines. The Financial Times screamed: “CREDIT PANIC HITS HISTORIC LEVELS;” “FAR REACHING CHANGES LOOM IN US;” “PUSH FOR CRISIS BREAKTHROUGH;” and “GLOBAL MARKETS ROAR IN APPROVAL, US Rescue Plan Sparks Record Rises for Equities.” The Washington Post reiterated: “STOCKS PLUMMET AS LENDING FREEZES UP, Lawmakers Left on the Sidelines as Fed, Treasury Take Swift Action;” “US PROPOSES $500B BAILOUT, Bush’s Shifting Ideology,” and “PRESIDENT SEEKS HISTORICALLY BROAD MARKET INTERVENTION.” This mornings,(Sunday) The Washington Post headlines read: “WASHINGTON READIES SEA CHANGE FOR WALL STREET, Cultural and Structural Shifts Rise Out of Risk-Taking Titans’ Hard Fall” and “RESCUE PLAN GROWS TO $700B, Similar Measurers Urged Overseas.”
If you listened to the commentators on CNBC business news, what you heard from time to time from the mouth of Erin Burnett is “creative destruction” and “Schumperterism.” The following is a dialogue from September 15 with Larry Cudlow, Mark Haines and Erin Burnett:
Mark Haines: “Is this another example of creative destruction for the failure of government?”
Larry Cudlow: “Lots of mistakes but the role of creative destruction and Schumperter play a role here.”
Erin: “We have a philosophy of –a veil of uncertainty and Schumpertism….”
As I have written before, our entire economy and all of our assets are in the process of being transferred to the Federal Reserve, who now appears to be running the United States of America. We have had a bloodless coup by a very, very powerful group of ruthless men who not only control the United States of America but in unity, control the world in conjunction with all of the other central banks. Furthermore, they have united to intervene in global markets. Their apex: the Bank for International Settlements, (BIS), located in Basle, Switzerland. During this past week, as they acted in concert with liquidity to the tune of $600B, opening up their discount windows for 24 hour loans to any banking institution in trouble, it may be fair to say a world or global central bank was birthed.
For America, it began in 1913 when those who opposed a central bank went home for Christmas. In 1913, on December 24th, at 11:45 p.m., after their colleagues left to go home for the holidays, greedy politicians pushing for a central bank garnered enough votes to pass it. What is a central bank? The idea began originally in Sweden who decided that they would set up a private corporation to lend monies to the government at interest. The government would pay interest on the principal borrowed forever. Interest in perpetuity! Can you imagine interest being paid to you forever? This is usury par excellent and is known as bondage. This brilliant idea was adopted by Holland which transported it to England, and little by little around the world. While America had its own central bank which was formed at the time of our Independence, it was closed by Andrew Jackson and never renewed until 1913.
Ever since the Federal Reserve Act was passed, Congress voted over 195 times to give the Federal Reserve more power. In essence, Congress has voted away all their authority and power to protect us. If they don’t vote for the emergency package, i.e. Resolution Trust and Blueprint, the market will crash. If they do vote for it, the American people are reduced to serfs and slaves in the New World Order which will be run by the real financial center of the world, the City of London. Either way they will be blamed. Basically they should be tried and hanged for treason along with every president and Congress before them down to 1913.
With most Americans up to their eyeballs in debt, it is as if we have been led to the slaughter. First the $7T crash of the NASDAQ in 1999 where the value of our stocks and bonds dropped which was followed by 9/11 where the government told Americans to support our economy by “going out to spend.” The Fed accommodated Bush by dropping interest rates to 45 year lows. Naive and happy Americans bit the apple and went out and purchased the American Dream. The level of debt rose astronomically. Then there were home equity lines of credit. Wow! All this for us. No—we have been thrown into the lion’s den—be it Daniel’s Lion’s Den or the Coliseum. Now, using the credit crisis which, in my opinion was created, these 21st Century Attila the Huns, aka the Federal Reserve, is coming in for the kill.
These carpet-baggers are going to clean up and become the new royalty in America, owning homes across the land that they were able to purchase for two cents on the dollar. The first time they did this was in 1980 with the Savings and Loan Crisis when the same kind, but different types of events were orchestrated to bring down the institutions that held commercial real estate. Do you remember that Congress authorized the Resolution Trust Corporation which was financed by our tax dollars to get rid of all the “worthless” commercial real estate? The problem is that we never had any accounting and no public disclosure about who bought what assets as it was all very clandestine. Now 28 years later, we have the same situation, except it is our mortgages. What happened between then and now?
The price of homes rose substantially. In 1970 before Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, you could buy in the Washington, D. C. area, a three bedroom all brick house on ½ acre for $32,000. today that same home sells for a reduced price of $450,000 – $500,000, depending on where it is located. Our currency has been devalued substantially. That is the real reason for inflated prices along with the situation that was created after the 9/11 tragedy. The Federal Reserve lured Americans into their dream house which is now their worst nightmare by dropping interest rates to 45 year lows and creating the mortgage bubble. In the Washington, D. C. area, you could not find a house to buy cause of all the activity. Prices for homes doubled in a very short period of time.
What can we expect, now that we are in the Lion’s Den? Congress will pass the legislation that the Federal Reserve wants as early as Monday morning to clam the markets. Please see the accompanying article on “The Blackmailing of Congress.” This legislation will not tell us everything we want or should know. I can only assume the following based on fourteen years of research:
First of all, as a result of the International banker turned Treasury Secretary and the Federal Reserve chairman’s actions to rescue AIG without Congressional or Presidential approval, those actions set LEGAL precedence for replacing and changing the Constitution. Never before in the history of America has a president delegated total Presidential authority to a non-elected official.
Secondly, International banker Hank Paulson said Sunday morning in an interview with Tom Brokow regarding the complexity of the mortgage market and the securitization process by which mortgages are sold to investors, “We have over-complexity. Securitization is putting [mortgages in] tranches and selling them all over the world and that is the risk.” On another Sunday morning show, the host, Chris Wallace said of Paulson, “[He] will accept some provision to let people to renegotiate mortgage to stay in home or other huge packages. But there will be a Main Street renegotiation in this bill because we are scared of the consequences.”
I believe there will be major changes in the mortgage market here in America. It will be globalized and changed to the same kind of feudalistic structure that the Europeans and Commonwealth countries have. According to my research, America’s move to feudalism is in the process of being finalized. The backbone of the middle class is home ownership which also includes the property under the building. I believe that the new system will change America’s entire mortgage structure to leasehold, a system used all over Europe whereby individuals will pay a monthly rent to the owner of the property that their house sits on. There will be a total restructuring of property rights in America to fit our new third world status. All of the rights of property ownership will be changed forever—gone with the wind. If you don’t have a mortgage you do not need to worry.
The need to pass massive legislation by Monday morning or by Friday afternoon the latest, is indicative of the high stakes of what will change and the assets that are about to transfer from the American taxpayer to the Federal Reserve. Congress is being blackmailed. The Treasury Blueprint lays this all out.
Thirdly, President Bush tried to recommend a flat tax in 2003. I wrote extensively on this back then. The truth of the matter is that if you are going to have a global currency, you are also going to have a global tax. America is the only country NOT to have a tax on services or a Value Added Tax-VAT. The repercussions of this takeover of America is that our cities, states and federal government are broke. One of the ways to “bail us out” is to create an “Infrastructure Corps” similar to the various programs Roosevelt created in the 1930s. To pay for it, we will need a VAT tax. Obama has already alluded to the “Infrastructure Corps” and he has talked about a capital gains tax on the sale of property.
Lastly, from Sunday’s talk shows, it appears that New York City Mayor Richard Bloomberg will head up the newly proposed Resolution Trust Corporation. We are being given major promises about how fair it will be. However, if history is any indication, we will receive nothing and end up holding the bag for the worthless paper that supports the assets. The bottom line is that you and I have always gotten the crumbs from the table, if congress does not approve what we are being told is the solution, we will not even have the crumbs. We are no longer in America but AmeriKa. It is time to hit our knees and repent for our own sins and ask God to save us
September 28th, 2008 at 11:00 amCan you imagine if McCain ran the country the same way he runs his campaign?
September 28th, 2008 at 11:03 amosama bin laden wins!!!
that was one of his goals, to bankrupt the usa… looks like he had some help from the inside.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:10 amJohn didn’t phone this one in. … You can’t phone something like this in. Thank God John came back.
Yeah
Because heaven knows there isn’t enough political grandstanding and drama queens in DC………And speaking of queens , Lindsey…………
September 28th, 2008 at 11:15 amFor many weeks now the McCain campaign has issued a non-stop stream of exaggerations, fabrications, and outright lies, even though the Internet and the 24 hour news cycle make it trivial to debunk the lies and publicize the truth. So I wonder whether this is because McCain and his campaign managers simply don’t understand the Internet (certainly the case for McCain personally), or whether they are really that cynical about their base of low-intelligence supporters. I suspect that the problem lies with McCain himself, that he impulsively spouts these things to the groans of his handlers, who then rush around trying to clean up (or call attention away from) his latest pooh pooh.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:21 amI watched the McCain/George Stephanopoulos interview this morning and when George asked him half way decent question, McCain weasled out by reverting to talking points, changing the subject, or giving long winded irrelevant answers to run out the clock. Pitifully, George kept letting him off the hook.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:38 amC’mon folks, the McCain campaign’s proximity lifeline is renewable. John was much closer to Capital negotiations than Alaska is to Russia. Now, that’s deep involvement!
And George W. is smart because the White House is near the Library of Congress…
September 28th, 2008 at 11:41 amStupid goddamn Repukes where doing everything in their power to push this calamity into next year onto the next Preznut’s watch.
SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:42 amQuestion: Who is the bottom in this McCain/Graham love affair?
September 28th, 2008 at 11:42 amYears ago when Don McLean sang about the day the music died. Our country died today.
The long protracted death began before Bush took office. But it got it’s jump start on the a sunny day in September when a shadow gov’t decided attack itself on 9/11.
And we have been on a reckless, xenophobic foreign policy ever since. Bush The Great Destroyer has done more damage to this country than any other president in the history of the United States. And he will go down in history as the worst president of all time.
But, folks he’s making sure his Wall St. Buddies coffers are all full and that includes Republicans and Democrats alike.
Time and time again I come on here and say that we no longer live under a Civilian Economy. We are living in a Military Economy. The Military contractors are the only ones flourishing in this current economy.
Where is the palpable anger re: this 700B (at least that’s what they are saying the cost is) sellout of the American people?
Where are the pitchforks?
America died today.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:45 amJohn didn’t phone this one in. … You can’t phone something like this in. Thank God John came back.
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Yeah, uh huh, sure Lindsay now go service Gramps before he gets agitated and starts breaking things.
John didn’t phone this one in…He tried to, he really did but sadly he thought his shoe was the phone…Hello, hello this is Senator POW calling, hello, hello, #%*#ing phone! I’ll try the other phone (Picks up other shoe)
September 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am….when he emerged and made a one-minute trip in his motorcade to his campaign headquarters around the corner.
OMG, McCain is so feeble he can’t walk around the corner and has to take a motorcade instead. Unbelievable.
I’m certain that the Republicans in the committee negotiating the bailout told McCain to stay the hell away. What does he have to contribute. Last I heard, he hadn’t even read either proposal. And with his lack of knowledge regarding economics, there’s nothing substantial he could contribute. The only reason for McCain being there is so that he could say that he “negotiated the bi-partisan agreement”. The problem with that is, since he has been back in Washington he hasn’t contacted any Democrats at all. He has only contacted Republicans.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:49 amNeil Bush-Silverado Savings & Loan
More recently, Neil got in trouble in Japan, something to do with a hooker.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A35297-2003Dec27?language=printer
John McCain-Lincoln Savings & Loan
September 28th, 2008 at 11:50 amThings like this are enough to make one’s head spin:
New York Times reports:
Asked why Mr. McCain did not go to Capitol Hill after coming back to Washington to help with negotiations, [McCain adviser] Mr. Salter replied that “he can effectively do what he needs to do by phone.”
September 28th, 2008 at 11:51 amSadly the republicans are desperate at this point. Now all they have left is pointing out that Obama was in North Carolina campaigning while Johnny McCuckoo was sequestered in some undisclosed part of DC sitting in a chair, rolling silver ball bearings in his hands, mumbling something about strawberries.
New flash to republicans! Barack Obama can campaign and still use 21st century technology to remain in contact with everything going on at the Capital building…IT’S CALLED MULTI-TASKING BIOTCHES!
September 28th, 2008 at 11:52 amoops…news flash…
September 28th, 2008 at 11:55 amFan of Man Says:
osama bin laden wins!!!
that was one of his goals, to bankrupt the usa… looks like he had some help from the inside.
Every time some neoCon person tells you that Bush is protecting us because we haven’t been hit since 911, your response should be: “Why should he. His goal is to bankrupt this country. Bush has done it for him”.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:56 amMcCain: This God damned Blackberry isn’t f**king working (slams it down on the desk)
McCain aid: Um Senator…that was your calculator sir.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:57 amthis bailout folks is called extorsion. and to have paulson, ceo of goldman sachs, as our treasury speaks volumes of this administration and its cronies and corporate rule. the audacity this prick as to tell the american people give me $700 billion with no questions asks is outrageous and all those pricks need to fired immediately.
people the ONLY reason why the congress needs to be done with the package by monday at opening bell is because the jewish(zionists) are leaving monday back to israel for the beginning of their holiday. folks bump your head and wake up to the zionist control of our government. we the people have been hijacked by the state of israel. get them out of our government now.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pmWHY, WHY havent these wimpy o’l democrats not bringing the fact of mccains 26 years of deregulation and the mckeating scandal. this is important due to the age of our voters this year. the influx of young voters are NOT going to know about the mckeating s$l scandal with john mccain and his voting record with the deregulation. the dems are wussies plane and simple and that will be the reason why obama loses, hes wimpy.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pmNO, no phone call for this “IMPORTANT DECISION”
He leaves phone calls for the “REALLY IMPORTANT DECISIONS” You know, the REALLY IMPORTANT DECISIONS” that will follow and haunt him forever like…A VIce Presidential pick.
“John McCain met his new V.P. once and talked to her, only on the phone,”
Phones are remarkable tools nowadays Lindsey. Please tell John that it no longer requires him to only go so far as the string allows.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pm#41
she’s a flippin bimbo. she talks out the side of her ass. id mop the floor with her over international policies, domestic policies with her fake tan and inflated boobies.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:09 pm.
McCain calls govt. officials handling bailout deal
By BETH FOUHY
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD93FC0G00
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September 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pmThey should have allowed John McCain to use a video conference call to do the debate. I think they should BOTH have been allowed to do that. It would show the true fool the McSame is. He wouldn’t have know who to look at, or how to act, more so than the tirade and hissy fit he did on stage.
And bs, wussies, how about the REPUBLICUNTS being afraid to talk to rogue states. Oh no, they are too powerful to talk to. If we talk to them, then we are loosing our power and transfering it to them. See what McWussie said on Friday night. Why are the Republiwussies so afraid to sit down with ANYONE to talk. If you are the last SUPERPOWER on earth, then NO ONE has the ability to push you around, as McPussy professed on Friday. What a whimp.
Ask Johny why he keeps his War record locked up. If there is nothing to hide Johnny, open up the War records. Or were there STILL LIVING POW’ left behind, yo traitor you.? Of course there were guys still left behind and were then useless to the Vietnamese who eventually executed them.
OPEN UP THE WAR RECORDS!!!!!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 12:15 pmRE: America Died Today
Kay, that was good writing. Well done. Thanks for not ranting.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:22 pmtwice this morning i heard the “he suspended his campaign” myth slide -
first it was obama himself, and I let that slide… but he COULD have repudiated” that claim in 5 seconds with “his campaign went on as usual – the surrogates and the ads”, but he didn’t. bummer.
then stephanopoulis makes not mention of those surrogates and ads and the obvious fact the mcLIAR did NOT “suspend his campaign”.
wtf?
September 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pmhe emerged and made a one-minute trip in his motorcade to his campaign headquarters around the corner.”
boy, that 10 minute walk would’ve done him some good…
or killed him…
oh.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:29 pmshoot - i don’t mean ANYthing other than heart failure.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:30 pmAlecto….
i agree when it comes to mcpains war record. i so agree when it comes to talking to the so called “terrorist nations” im a vet and he has not helped us vets out at all in deed hes voted against us.
…..but that is not what gets us kicked in the teeth when it comes to elections. sometimes the dems need to kick someone when they are down.
the reason why we call them terrorist nation is because iran, venezuela, cuba, n.korea will not allow the U.S. EMPIRE to invade and take over their country. if so you will have a million plus charlies kick our ass as in vietnam. we can not beat them militarilly…the only way we can is by dropping nukes…a cowards way as we do in all wars whether its the
September 28th, 2008 at 12:35 pmA-bomb or depleted uranium laced bullet heads. why is iran rogue? anyone? why not america the rogue? iran has never ever invaded a country or dropped nukes. we the u.s. has the most dangerous weapons and the most stockpiles of missiles and the most nukes and guess what we don’t have oversight. this is called the makings of the N.W.O. MISSION IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED ALL IN THE NAME OF ZIONISTS AND THE JEWISH RELIGION. I CALL BS.
So bs, what about the WAR RECORDS?
September 28th, 2008 at 12:37 pmwe will never ever win a military war with iraq, afghanistan, pakistan etc…..
its a political war that has us in this mess. the makings of the zionist international policies against the middle east. we deemed the entire nation of afghanistan and iraq as terrorist nations, not just certain pockets of people folks. this war and the financial mess we are in is linked. no nation can have trillion dollar war and counting and not feel anything economically. the outsourcing of our economy and privitization as helped in this raping of the american people.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:45 pmAlecto Says:
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So bs, what about the WAR RECORDS?
September 28th, 2008 at 12:49 pm_____________
i agree with you alecto. i believe he pulled a bushie during his days. its been inflated and facts eliminated when it came down to the pow’s. “leave no man behind” as always rubbed me wrong with mcpain but who will find out if the records are sealed to protect the soldier and that is only done when something shady has happened.
….and a “maverick” that right there is the cover-up. all the little nicknames he calls himself is to fabricate who he really is. why don’t we challenge him on the vietnam? that is why i want obama to chew him up and spit him out with all of his falicies including his war record…..so tell me when are the dems going to grab their gonads and through some grenades his way….?
September 28th, 2008 at 12:55 pmSo bs,
you REALLY thought that it would go well for Obama to come into Mississippi and rip the head off of the white guy McCain? I don’t think so. Obama would have been the ultimate uppity NI**ER. It needs to be a gradual ripping off of the scab that covers the black hole that is the Republican party. Little by little, the gapping hole of logic that is the Republican mindset will be opened for all to gaze into the void. It can’t be done in one fell swoop, it is a dance that requires the full measure of finesse.
Its a tango.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:01 pmWasn’t there a troll call bs here on TP once?
Are you that bs? A concern troll?
September 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pmno……..there was someone that took my name i guess and folks thought it was me. but i have always posted anti-republikkkan here. im just waiting for a democrat that is going to do a 1-2 punch on these peckerwoods and hoping it’s obama. maybe it will come when its closer to voting to elimiate the talking heads skewing the facts. we’ll see……
September 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pmThe Reaper visited Wall Street the week of September 15th. He tried to make them pay for past sins, but Uncle Sam intervened.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pmRE: America Died Today
Kay, that was good writing. Well done. Thanks for not ranting.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pmI guess you are being sarcastic.
McCain and Obama…Together on this Sopranos Extortion Bailout Scam.
“Change” my ass!
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/09/dallas-federal-reserve-bank-president.html
September 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pmoooo…….whether it’s good or not..i think it could go both ways. i’d like to see the white to black ratio. personally the white folks in mississippi that will not vote for obama are racist so he lost those and will NEVER get em back. so to hell with those peckerwoods. and from what i saw during pre-game was that there were alot of white folks voting for obama. let’s also remember the voting demographics are different. there are alot of 18-40 voting this year and those are the liberal thinkers. the ones that hold no prejudice with sex, race, religion.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pmBrain From Planet Arous Says:
McCain and Obama…Together on this Sopranos Extortion Bailout Scam.
“Change” my ass!
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obama should listen to the vast majority of american folks and vote NO. this is what i do not like about the man of “change”.
he also voted NO with letting the telecommunications off the hook……but……when it came down to the last vote he “changed” his mind and voted YES on the last bill to let them off the hook with NO repercussions.
he is also vying, begging the jews for their vote….holding private meetings and licking the dust off of zionists shoes. change? these pricks beg more for the jewish vote than the american vote….its a farce.
the fact that when obama travels he gets travel pay of 50.5 cents a mile with NO deductible….room and food payed for by the government….as he sits on millions. i the vet gets 28.5 cents a mile with a $16.00 deductible with no food rations when the va sends me all over the place for medical care. and folks he accepts his rations. he gets better health care than i do and payed for by the government and uses it while we the vets are used and abused by the system that says it loves its vets. folks this is a government problem and ALL the bureaucrats are doing it.
this is two mob families going at it and it is our job to pick the lesser of two evils.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:33 pmMe thinks you ARE bs. The one and only concern troll.
Cna you tell me how much McCain takes for his being AWOL since April 16 fom the Senate?
You only bash Obama. If you had truly been concerned about the “needs” of the country, you would have bashed them both, if beig up the topic at all.
What about the WAR RECORDS….?
http://www.truthout.org/article/mccain-and-pow-cover-up
September 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pmUncle fester @31
Does McStain know how to use a phone? Most phones have microchips today similar to the one in his head. I can see ho that would confuse him.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:46 pmAlecto Says:
Cna you tell me how much McCain takes for his being AWOL since April 16 fom the Senate?
none….which is crap. he than comes to the congress with his dramatic entrance because obama is kicking his butt and sits silent for 45 min without uttering a word. maybe because he is a deregulator and one of the members in the mckeating s&l scandal. i mentioned my reservations on the war record already earlier. common sense and intuition have already told me one who brags about it has something to hide. my problem with obama is that he is running on a campaign of change and to change what? he is siding with the zionists and pro, pro pro israel….why? he has sided with the governament?telecommuncations to save their butts for ilegally tapping americans when in fact he was against it. NO PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING THEY SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE ONES RUNNING THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. as soon as the american folks understand that then they will call out both sides. that is the patriotic way and obama does NOT go unscathed. he is the lesser of two evils. so i question those who are bashing on mcpain on here and not questioning obama “change” persona. im a realist….i don’t need to jump on a party bandwagon to be someone. i don’t need a group because NOT everyone in that group believe and think alike…..THOSE ARE SHEEPLES and we have a nation of them.
my point is if this man is going to be the man of change and do what the american folks want since it is our government then he would NOT be afraid of the zionists. that is why im upset with him.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pmthe MSM is part of the zionist machine that is why they don’t say anything. but that is no secret……..
September 28th, 2008 at 2:24 pmAlecto Says:
What about the WAR RECORDS….?
now what else do you want me to say that i havent mentioned earlier…..hes a fraud. i don’t and havent believed his “maverick” stance from the beginning but obama and the rest of the ass kissers or zionist crusaders called politicans praise him over his record why don’t you have beef with obama over that? but your arguing with me over something i side with you on and don’t channel your anger to a man of “change” that you are voting for that does everything to salute him about his vietnam record but publically lick his booty hole. that is what i question.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:32 pmOnly when it suits their purpose, to cover McCain’s butt. Hannity has been mocking Obama over the phone thing since Thursday on tv and radio, and again last night.
Sept. 25 ‘08 PAT CADDELL, FORMER DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: The worst thing Obama needed to do, I thought, was say — was go out there and say, “Hey, I have a telephone. Call me if you need me.”
McCain took an action very, very…
HANNITY: He said that, “Call me. I’ll be there in a hurry.”
CADDELL: And take a risk, take a risk. McCain took a risk. I’m sorry, what did you say?
HANNITY: I was singing Diana Ross.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:34 pmPferdscheiss!
September 28th, 2008 at 2:38 pmbeing a patriot is being an individual thinker. noone thinks the same way as a republican or democrat. i question those democrats that don’t look at their own party, if you belong to one, and question what they are doing and stand for. as if obama is pure and going to save us all from this tyranny…..come on folks.
elections are about picking the lesser of two evils. in that case it is obama.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pmif your going to run a “change” campaign you better be ready to revolt against this imperialist, socialistic, zionist, nazi regime the americans call our government or the only thing your doing is changing to a democrat president from a republican one and your dirty drawers.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pmand not to mention i went to a town hall meeting of his(obamas) strictly for the vets…..hahahahah…..what a joke. not to mention it was a personal invite only…obama doesn’t know anyone personally in the community. first off it was a cold morining and the meeting to start at 10am. guess when he starting walking up…at 1045. he was no more than 50 yards away and kept ww11 vets, vietnam vets, gulf war vets waiting…and some on oxygen. mmmmm…arrogance maybe. but the folks that did get the invite were political pundits….the 5 “special” folks that did, did not ask one question just spewing useless statements. matter of fact the “questions” were pre-screened with folks picked out before hand to comment on va affairs with NO questions asked….and that is a man of change. ONLY 1 VET (pre-screened)WAS CALLED UPON AND SPOKE AT THAT JOKE OF A “VET MEETING”.
i had my hand up ready to ask some good, hard questions. why i didn’t get picked was because i raised hell with the first va meeting of about 200 with sec. peake and our senator….which was about 6 months before that. so when the senator seen me and shook my hand, there was no chance. why wouldnt you call on vets since it is the vets system and i being a young vet at that.
my frustration has to do WITH ALL POLITICIANS and their self serving ways.
September 28th, 2008 at 3:14 pmThe McCain campaign can’t even get its lies coordinated. You think they can’t possibly be more contradictory & at odds within their own campaign– but there’s always tomorrow, when they outdo themselves.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pmActually, “phoning it in” is only “phoning it in” if it’s a Dem working the phones. If you’re a Republican, “phoning it in” is means you’re “dynamic,” “engaged”, “effective,” “wired-in” and “willing to go the extra yard.”
Whatever McCain’s campaign says, you can be assured the exact opposite is true.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
September 28th, 2008 at 9:31 pmThanks for swooping in and saving America, SuperMaverick!
AND you somehow miraculously squeezed in time for that debate after all, the one with that unsavory African American man that you can’t even stand to look in the eye, though all the odds were against you! Hooray!
Financial Wizard… Master Debater… Is there anything the SuperMaverick CAN’T do?
September 29th, 2008 at 12:49 amMcDepends couldn’t phone it in cause he forgot how to work his Jitterbug
September 29th, 2008 at 7:42 amThe government is also working on to repair the mess of the economy now. Timothy F. Geithner, the Obama nominee for Treasury Secretary, had owed a large sum of money to the Internal Revenue Service. I wonder if he needed a payday loan to help pay off his $42,000 debt with the IRS. Apparently Geither’s tax mistakes occurred during the time he worked for the International Monetary Fund back in 2001-2004. It seems that U.S. law mixed with working for an international company was too complicated for Geithner. Fortunately, getting a payday loan is absolutely simple. Obama and his team are defending the nominee, stating that the errors were an honest mistake and there is no good reason why Geithner should not be the next United States Secretary of the Treasury. When you really think about it though, the incident happened five years ago. By now, he is probably a lot better with his taxes. In addition, he did pay back the money he owed plus interest. However, I am a bit hesitant to put a man who was unable to handle his personal financial dealings in charge of the entire country’s finances. You could read more about Timothy Geithner and the Barack Obama administration through this article on the payday loan money blog at PersonalMoneyStore.com.
January 19th, 2009 at 12:46 am