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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-4/#comment-5258928</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chucky, more education opportunities avail themselves daily.  

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/research-markets-how-carlyle-fund/story.aspx?guid=%7BCC7AB341-931F-4ACF-ACBD-BD0DD3FE2422%7D&amp;dist=hppr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chucky, more education opportunities avail themselves daily.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/research-markets-how-carlyle-fund/story.aspx?guid=%7BCC7AB341-931F-4ACF-ACBD-BD0DD3FE2422%7D&amp;dist=hppr" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/research-markets-how-carlyle-fund/story.aspx?guid=%7BCC7AB341-931F-4ACF-ACBD-BD0DD3FE2422%7D&amp;dist=hppr</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5258928', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: had enough</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-4/#comment-5257920</link>
		<dc:creator>had enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are you better off than you were eight years ago?»&lt;/em&gt;

This means &#039;financial&#039;... but &#039;well being&#039; is most important therefore &lt;strong&gt;F NO&lt;/strong&gt; is the answer.  Never before have I felt so  embarrassed, ashamed over what our country has done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you better off than you were eight years ago?»</em></p>
<p>This means &#8216;financial&#8217;&#8230; but &#8216;well being&#8217; is most important therefore <strong>F NO</strong> is the answer.  Never before have I felt so  embarrassed, ashamed over what our country has done.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257920', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sectionop92</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-4/#comment-5257908</link>
		<dc:creator>sectionop92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Keith Says:&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Wolf Blitzer called on financial expert Glenn Beck to explain the problem. Beck said there is nothing wrong with capitalism, the problem is GREED. I thought capitalism was supposed to run on greed.&lt;/em&gt;

The problem with asking Glenn Beck to talk about economics is that he&#039;s the Sarah Palin of money matters.  It&#039;s like asking a drunk who isn&#039;t off the sauce what&#039;s wrong with drinking...and it&#039;s all the bottles fault for being there and going in the drinker&#039;s mouth.

Senator Glenn wants to blame every entitlement program that could be fixed with just a tenth of that bailout money, but blames those programs instead of his buddies he&#039;s enabled, drank with and played grab a$$ with.  It&#039;s everyone else who screwed up and Glenn wants to make sure all the elderly and incompetent racist kool aid guzzlers and bible thumpers who watch his show don&#039;t hang a$$ clowns like Darrell Issa from a tree.  

In Glenn&#039;s world, if you&#039;re a minority who defaulted on a home loan it&#039;s the minority family who is homeless and not the mortgage company, real estate agent, credit policies, slash and burn percentage cuts to &quot;stimulate&quot; the markets or the rampant deregulation that has gone unchecked.  No.  It&#039;s those crazy people of color and their home loan default pyramid schemes!  If Glenn was any sharper, he&#039;d be cutting playdough in a kindergarten class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Keith Says:</em></p>
<p><em>Wolf Blitzer called on financial expert Glenn Beck to explain the problem. Beck said there is nothing wrong with capitalism, the problem is GREED. I thought capitalism was supposed to run on greed.</em></p>
<p>The problem with asking Glenn Beck to talk about economics is that he&#8217;s the Sarah Palin of money matters.  It&#8217;s like asking a drunk who isn&#8217;t off the sauce what&#8217;s wrong with drinking&#8230;and it&#8217;s all the bottles fault for being there and going in the drinker&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p>Senator Glenn wants to blame every entitlement program that could be fixed with just a tenth of that bailout money, but blames those programs instead of his buddies he&#8217;s enabled, drank with and played grab a$$ with.  It&#8217;s everyone else who screwed up and Glenn wants to make sure all the elderly and incompetent racist kool aid guzzlers and bible thumpers who watch his show don&#8217;t hang a$$ clowns like Darrell Issa from a tree.  </p>
<p>In Glenn&#8217;s world, if you&#8217;re a minority who defaulted on a home loan it&#8217;s the minority family who is homeless and not the mortgage company, real estate agent, credit policies, slash and burn percentage cuts to &#8220;stimulate&#8221; the markets or the rampant deregulation that has gone unchecked.  No.  It&#8217;s those crazy people of color and their home loan default pyramid schemes!  If Glenn was any sharper, he&#8217;d be cutting playdough in a kindergarten class.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257908', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-4/#comment-5257894</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Keith Says:

McCain campaign said it was all Obama’s fault. From Salon.com:

“Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill,” McCain senior policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin said in an e-mail to reporters. “This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, I believe Grampy said this immediately before he said it wasn&#039;t time to cast blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Keith Says:</p>
<p>McCain campaign said it was all Obama’s fault. From Salon.com:</p>
<p>“Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill,” McCain senior policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin said in an e-mail to reporters. “This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I believe Grampy said this immediately before he said it wasn&#8217;t time to cast blame.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257894', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257886</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chucky, more education on Carlyle.  WaPo had a piece on how they plan to make money in the crisis:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802218.html?sid=ST2008092800943&amp;s_pos=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chucky, more education on Carlyle.  WaPo had a piece on how they plan to make money in the crisis:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802218.html?sid=ST2008092800943&amp;s_pos=" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802218.html?sid=ST2008092800943&amp;s_pos=</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257886', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257884</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet he&#039;s trying to respond but has been rendered impotent.  Fortunately that&#039;s a condition he&#039;s used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet he&#8217;s trying to respond but has been rendered impotent.  Fortunately that&#8217;s a condition he&#8217;s used to.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257884', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like Schmucky disappeared.  I hope he got renditioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Schmucky disappeared.  I hope he got renditioned.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257882', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257864</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chucky, what did you find out about off balance sheet items, especially in regard to derivatives, all forms, not just credit.  

And leverage, can you look that up as well?  Publicly traded Carlyle Capital Corporation specialized in mortgage backed securities.  They leveraged their equity 39 or so to 1.  When trends turned unfavorable, that sharp edge turned inward.

Funny, their rollup has a chance of garnering more if the Treasury plan passes.  Yes, that&#039;s the same Carlyle Group, Bush and his daddy once worked for.  George W. was on the board of CaterAir, a Carlyle affiliate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chucky, what did you find out about off balance sheet items, especially in regard to derivatives, all forms, not just credit.  </p>
<p>And leverage, can you look that up as well?  Publicly traded Carlyle Capital Corporation specialized in mortgage backed securities.  They leveraged their equity 39 or so to 1.  When trends turned unfavorable, that sharp edge turned inward.</p>
<p>Funny, their rollup has a chance of garnering more if the Treasury plan passes.  Yes, that&#8217;s the same Carlyle Group, Bush and his daddy once worked for.  George W. was on the board of CaterAir, a Carlyle affiliate.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257864', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257856</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe,

If I tried to make sense of Ms. Palin, even with the help of a troll translator, it would cause me deep psychological harm. Merely hearing, or reading, her words makes my brain cells threaten suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe,</p>
<p>If I tried to make sense of Ms. Palin, even with the help of a troll translator, it would cause me deep psychological harm. Merely hearing, or reading, her words makes my brain cells threaten suicide.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257856', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257850</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chucky, apparently you didn&#039;t look at the graph showing the relative contribution of subprime to other mortgage related securities.  Regular mortgage, commercial and other asset backed securities make up over 80% securitized debt the last 8 years.  

If the problem is restricted to sub-prime securitized mortgages as you suggest, then why is the Treasury bailout taking an &quot;all of the above&quot; approach to buying back distressed assets?  

And why are they buying back credit default swaps?  They&#039;re supposed to be the &quot;peace of mind coverage&quot; for securitized debt.  The credit derivative market is unregulated.  

Poor people didn&#039;t package and sell credit &quot;coverage&quot; and then bail on their commitments.  The big money boys did.

Worldwide central banks pushed $200 billion into the markets today.  But that money won&#039;t move around with the big money boys scared to loan to each other.  

Pay day loan rates aren&#039;t just for poor people anymore.  Goldman, Morgan, and Merrill now get their turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chucky, apparently you didn&#8217;t look at the graph showing the relative contribution of subprime to other mortgage related securities.  Regular mortgage, commercial and other asset backed securities make up over 80% securitized debt the last 8 years.  </p>
<p>If the problem is restricted to sub-prime securitized mortgages as you suggest, then why is the Treasury bailout taking an &#8220;all of the above&#8221; approach to buying back distressed assets?  </p>
<p>And why are they buying back credit default swaps?  They&#8217;re supposed to be the &#8220;peace of mind coverage&#8221; for securitized debt.  The credit derivative market is unregulated.  </p>
<p>Poor people didn&#8217;t package and sell credit &#8220;coverage&#8221; and then bail on their commitments.  The big money boys did.</p>
<p>Worldwide central banks pushed $200 billion into the markets today.  But that money won&#8217;t move around with the big money boys scared to loan to each other.  </p>
<p>Pay day loan rates aren&#8217;t just for poor people anymore.  Goldman, Morgan, and Merrill now get their turn.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257850', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;blue state bob Says:
Maybe the woman from the movie Airplane: “Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive” is available, perhaps she also speaks gibberish&lt;/em&gt;

oh no bob,

it&#039;s&lt;em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;palinese&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.

and only the glue sniffing

right wingnuts respond to it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>blue state bob Says:<br />
Maybe the woman from the movie Airplane: “Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive” is available, perhaps she also speaks gibberish</em></p>
<p>oh no bob,</p>
<p>it&#8217;s<em> <strong>palinese</strong></em>.</p>
<p>and only the glue sniffing</p>
<p>right wingnuts respond to it.</p>
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		<title>By: blue state bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue state bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the woman from the movie Airplane: &quot;Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive&quot; is available, perhaps she also speaks gibberish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the woman from the movie Airplane: &#8220;Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive&#8221; is available, perhaps she also speaks gibberish<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257834', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257826</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete,

i wish chucky was still here.

i want him to translate this for me.

from sarah:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Yeah, well especially in that region, though, we have to protect those who do seek democracy and support those who seek protections for the people who live there. What we&#039;re seeing in the last couple of days here in New York is a President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, who would come on our soil and express such disdain for one of our closest allies and friends, Israel ... and we&#039;re hearing the evil that he speaks and if hearing him doesn&#039;t allow Americans to commit more solidly to protecting the friends and allies that we need, especially there in the Mideast, then nothing will.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

anybody want a crack at it?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete,</p>
<p>i wish chucky was still here.</p>
<p>i want him to translate this for me.</p>
<p>from sarah:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Yeah, well especially in that region, though, we have to protect those who do seek democracy and support those who seek protections for the people who live there. What we&#8217;re seeing in the last couple of days here in New York is a President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, who would come on our soil and express such disdain for one of our closest allies and friends, Israel &#8230; and we&#8217;re hearing the evil that he speaks and if hearing him doesn&#8217;t allow Americans to commit more solidly to protecting the friends and allies that we need, especially there in the Mideast, then nothing will.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>anybody want a crack at it?</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257824</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the OT but, this is too good. Flippy and Chippy decided to explain her Pakistan comment. It was a &quot;gotcha question&quot;.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_PAKISTAN?SITE=PASCR&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the OT but, this is too good. Flippy and Chippy decided to explain her Pakistan comment. It was a &#8220;gotcha question&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_PAKISTAN?SITE=PASCR&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_PAKISTAN?SITE=PASCR&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257824', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257816</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe,

the guilty

climbing the gallows

scream in impotent rage

at those who sought to save them from

their folly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe,</p>
<p>the guilty</p>
<p>climbing the gallows</p>
<p>scream in impotent rage</p>
<p>at those who sought to save them from</p>
<p>their folly<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257816', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257804</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;pete&lt;/em&gt;,

the republican party

is no more.

just as chucky.

*

chucky?

#

see?

*

good luck.

!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>pete</em>,</p>
<p>the republican party</p>
<p>is no more.</p>
<p>just as chucky.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>chucky?</p>
<p>#</p>
<p>see?</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>good luck.</p>
<p>!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257804', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257802</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And ol&#039; Flippy McSpin took credit for stopping the first vote on an unamended bill. Then he took credit for getting the compromise to the floor. Now he wants to blame the Dems for not passing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And ol&#8217; Flippy McSpin took credit for stopping the first vote on an unamended bill. Then he took credit for getting the compromise to the floor. Now he wants to blame the Dems for not passing it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257802', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257798</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wondrous to watch the GOP trying to spin their long-deserved implosion. It might prove worth the price of a panic bailout just to watch the spectacle.

They try to pin bank collapses, banks who trade in billions of dollars a day, on people who are a few grand behind. Then they try to blame the failure of a bad piece of legislation on the Dems when they can&#039;t get half their own delegation to support it. And it&#039;s positively bizarre for the McSpin campaign to fault Obama&#039;s efforts when Flippy&#039;s own party voted against it in bigger numbers.

Another day in the United Surreal States of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wondrous to watch the GOP trying to spin their long-deserved implosion. It might prove worth the price of a panic bailout just to watch the spectacle.</p>
<p>They try to pin bank collapses, banks who trade in billions of dollars a day, on people who are a few grand behind. Then they try to blame the failure of a bad piece of legislation on the Dems when they can&#8217;t get half their own delegation to support it. And it&#8217;s positively bizarre for the McSpin campaign to fault Obama&#8217;s efforts when Flippy&#8217;s own party voted against it in bigger numbers.</p>
<p>Another day in the United Surreal States of America.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257798', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257786</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain campaign said it was all Obama&#039;s fault.  From Salon.com:

&quot;Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill,&quot; McCain senior policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin said in an e-mail to reporters. &quot;This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain campaign said it was all Obama&#8217;s fault.  From Salon.com:</p>
<p>&#8220;Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill,&#8221; McCain senior policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin said in an e-mail to reporters. &#8220;This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257786', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/29/dow-drop-2008-v-2001/comment-page-3/#comment-5257782</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolf Blitzer called on financial expert &lt;strong&gt;Glenn Beck&lt;/strong&gt; to explain the problem.  Beck said there is nothing wrong with capitalism, the problem is GREED.  I thought capitalism was supposed to run on greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf Blitzer called on financial expert <strong>Glenn Beck</strong> to explain the problem.  Beck said there is nothing wrong with capitalism, the problem is GREED.  I thought capitalism was supposed to run on greed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5257782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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