On Fox News today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) discussed the downturn in Sen. John McCain’s presidential prospects, saying McCain “is behind now because of the economy.” Lieberman then said that he hopes the House passes bailout legislation tomorrow because “it will be good for our country.”
“But frankly, it will be good for John McCain too,” added Lieberman, explaining that “it will get people back to comparing the two candidates free of a sense of crisis that may make them want to turn against Republicans.” Watch it:
Lieberman is right that the focus on America’s financial problems has been bad for McCain, but it’s not because the “sense of crisis” has confused voters. It’s because of the way McCain has handled himself during the crisis of the past two weeks:
Sept. 15: On the same day that two of Wall Street’s major banking institutions collapsed, McCain declared that he “still” believes “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.”
Sept. 16: During a round of network interviews, McCain flip-flopped on his support for “excess regulation” in less than an hour.
Sept. 16: Attempting to talk about the financial crisis, McCain twice incorrectly referred to the “SPIC,” when intending to refer to the SIPC (the Securities Investor Protection Corporation).
Sept. 17: After saying the day before that he opposed it, McCain flip-flopped and said he supported the bailout of insurance giant AIG.
Sept. 18: McCain declared that if he were president, he would fire the chairman of the SEC, which the president doesn’t have the constitutional authority to do.
Sept. 19: Attempting to walk back his SEC gaffe, McCain said that that “the chairman of the FEC” — not the SEC — should resign.
Sept. 21: In a 60 Minutes interview, McCain defended his past support for deregulation, saying “I think the deregulation was probably helpful to the growth of our economy.”
Sept. 21: Despite the looming $700 billion bailout legislation, McCain told CNBC that he “can still balance the budget” during his first term.
Sept. 25: After McCain abruptly suspended his campaign in order to inject himself into bailout negotiations, the bailout talks broke down during a “contentious” White House meeting called for by McCain.
At this point, anything would be better for John McCain than talking about the economy.
Any time I think about spending $700B of other people’s money, John McCain is first in my mind.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmI think that Everyone should go to http://www.votenic.com and see what America thinks.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:37 pmPosted earlier…
2 observations on McCainiac…
-He laughs at the wrong time. He even smiles at the wrong time.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pmThis is typical of sociopaths, who aren’t able to process social ‘norms’, because they don’t possess any.
-His temper goes from 0 to 60 in 1 second.
Again, sociopathic. Rather than taking time to process auditory / visual stimuli, he jumps to conclusions that he’s the victim, immediately blames the stimuli source and proceeds to demean, demand or defend.
why is lieberman still in the Dem caucus? his vote isnt going to be the tiebreaker come november……get rid of this guy, hes a traitor and doesnt deserve to be taking a seat in any government except the foriegn powers he serves
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmI’m so sick of morons with power thinking it’s OK to manipulate people. And I’m so sick of people being so easily manipulated.
The polls are like a rollercoaster ride, but worse. I’ve never gotten sick on a coaster, but I feel ill when I see Obama’s numbers going south for no substantive reason.
If anyone thinks John McCain had anything to do with the passage of this bill – shame on you, you haven’t been watching what’s happening.
Thank goodness for David Letterman. Keep on the attack, Dave!
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmIn a sense Lieberman is right. People didnt like how McCain conducted himself and handled this crisis. McCain failed the test
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmSomeone help me out — does Joe Lieberman still pretend to be a Democrat?
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pmHopefully the Democrats will kick Lie-man to the curb after the elections. He needs to be kicked off every Committee and his office moved to the basement next to the unused jail cell down there.
Then again move his office to the jail cell and “accidentally” lose the key.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:45 pmLIEBERMAN: If you can find it in your hearts to give just 5 dollars, or even as little as 700 billion dollars, so that little Johny McCain here can raise his arms all the way above his head once again.. well then… )choke) this fear driven panic inducing finance-athon will have all been worth while…”
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Someone help me out — does Joe Lieberman still pretend to be a Democrat?
Its not really much of a pretense any longer.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmCareful Joe, this is not the time for politics. It’s a time to put the Country First — er, first on the docket in China’s bankruptcy court.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmNobody in the MSM has called him out on the fact that during the RNC convention he mocked the democrats by saying he was a ” democrat on stage ” . Now he he’s still being introduced as an ” independent ” The number of flip flops this phony has done is amazing .
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmLieberman: We Need To Pass The Bailout Because ‘It Will Be Good For John McCain’
– - Absolutely. After all, McCain is not a rich man.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmIt would be good for John McCain and therefore good for Joe Lieberman. The only one he really cares about.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmA string of Dumb Questions:
So the economic woes are only a political stunt ? I thought McSame decried folks politicing on the crisis ?
Isn’t a quality we want in a prez the ability to handle a crisis ? So isn’t their actions in a crisis one of the best auditions we can provide ?
Can the economic crisis be seen as a result of certain policies. And if so, should we see if the candidates follow those same policies or not ?
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:51 pmI think votenic should eff-off with its opportunistic meaningless internet poll.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 pmMcCain = Collapse
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:55 pmsatirev… I hear you. Not jumping to conclusions but I hear you.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:55 pmIronic, n’est pas? :)
ah , I see votenic has been effed-off by the fine administrators of Think Progress.
Well done, fine administrators of Think Progress!!
(I had to mention that otherwise #21 would make no sense)
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmTraitor Joe of course wants it to be good for McCancer, he wants to have a seat at the table…because when Obama wins Joe isn’t even going to get the table scraps.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmOld tired and irrelevant Lieberman is not only a traitor to his party but also indulges in treasonous behavior against the USA. This guy loves the illegal and terrorist state of Israel more than his country of birth!
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:00 pmA hidden microphone only helps McPalin if somebody on the other end can feed her something intelligent to say. Who would that be? McCain? Tucker Bounds? The Incredible Vanishing Carly Fiorina? Nancy What’s Her Name? Not seeing too many functioning brain cells on that side of the room. On the other hand, to finish Letterman’s thought from last night, after spending debate camp in Arizona McPalin is now an expert on Mexico as well.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pmIf Lieberman is a self professed Democrat (even if he is an independent), why should he be concerned about people turning against the Republican Party? His comment makes no sense.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pmThis man is a sanctimonious egotist who has no tools to be a competent or respected political leader, and survives only on his ability to confuse the Connecticut Democratic Party voters, and convince the Connecticut Republicans that he is better than a genuine Democrat.
This stinks of another excuse to pass this Wall St. Welfare bill quick: another scare tactic aimed at the republicans. “Our guy is not doing well, BUT… if we can swiftly get this money out there then people might turn around on it and us republicans can stay in power, just like we might get some of this money back, maybe, if it is in the good and generous hearts of those we will give your… I mean this money to.” Puhleeezze!!! They are using any and all means to steal this load of taxpayer money (well, borrowed on the backs of the taxpayers), and probably because they are facing the realization that they might not have enough pull to fix this election — I didn’t say that they COULDN’T steal this one, too, but it would be pretty amazing if they did from what I am seeing (that is, the continued diligence in stopping their cheating, thieving, illegal voter fraud tactics). There are more than a few of us who won’t be caged again.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 pmI wonder if an earpiece would help, or hurt, Bible Spice? I haven’t seen anything to suggest that she can process information quickly enough to be able to cope with a “hidden” source of input.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pmLieberman needs McCain to win because he needs/wants to be appointed to the McCain cabinet. If not, he won’t have a job come 2012.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:12 pmSpot on. If Obama wins, Rape Gurney Joe is totally hosed. He gets booted from the Senate Dem Caucus, loses his seniority and chairmanships and has to slum it with the Republicans, who don’t really like him either.
If McSame wins, none of that matters to him, because he’s bolting the Senate anyway for a slot in the McSame cabinet.
The McSame cabinet… think about that for a minute… Holy Joe Lieberman, Phil “Gramm Larceny”, Sarah Palin… there’s a real brain trust.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pmsatirev Says:
**Beware the Hidden Earphone Prompts!
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
True, so true. The unfortunate thing: there are “ear inserts” virtually undetectable. We can only hope for electrical interference should the hidden ear piece be part of the “feminine look” this evening.
Body language, timely responses and the wording of those responses will be the telling points…
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmBible Spice…good one, Pete!
Lieberman & Graham are on McCain like flies on shit.
Graham comes across as this seasoned, above it all lawyer-like Senator…he’s been a Senator exactly as long as Obama.
Droopy Dog Lieberman will suck up to anyone he thinks will elevate his current status. At this moment, it’s McCainiac.
I think these ‘bestest friends’ pretty much expose ‘The Real McCain’.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pmMcCain/Palin needs to stay away from the supposed “gaff” that Biden made about FDR appearing on tv. Turns out he did.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmIf a $700B bailout of greedy Wall Street piggy corporations is good enough for Bush and McCain, it’s good enough for me…
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmMy. sheesh.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:27 pmMt thought exactly ralph.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:27 pmDo you think she’ll blurt, “let me finish” in the middle of an answer, when she is the only one talking?
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 pmWell, that’s weird.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
McCain/Palin needs to stay away from the supposed “gaff” that Biden made about FDR appearing on tv. Turns out he did.
– - But in 1939, not 1932 as Biden claimed.
And Biden was never “shot at” in Iraq either. He’s been talking to Hillary too much.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pmWouldn’t it be funny if, as the candidates came on stage, a stage hand ran an electronic sweeper wand over them and removed any live tranceivers from their person!!???!
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pmOh please oh please oh please…
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pmRUCerious Says:
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Wouldn’t it be funny if, as the candidates came on stage, a stage hand ran an electronic sweeper wand over them and removed any live tranceivers from their person!!???!
If she wears a device as the ignorant Bush did, judging from the lump on his back during his debate, it should be considered a WMD
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pmi think joe and hadassa are about ready to head on down to del boca vista on a permanent basis anyway…
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pmI understand that but McCain has said that at least he has a vp candidate that knows that FDR never appeared on tv and he did.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 pmWouldn’t it be funny if, as the candidates came on stage, a stage hand ran an electronic sweeper wand over them and removed any live tranceivers from their person!!???!
Wouldn’t it be funnier if Bible Spice trailed off in mid screed and started tapping her ear and saying, “hello” “hello”?
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pmHeh. Sarah Palin’s “Milli Vanilli” moment. :D
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:49 pmJoe and his wife walk down main street, Tel Aviv…media reaction = oh how nice and quaint!
Barack and his wife walk down main street, Nairobi…media reaction = they are anti-American, courting terrorists, blah, blah.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pmHoly Joe: “We’re gonna be in the pool… we’re gonna be in the clubhouse… we’re gonna be all over that shuffleboard court — AND I DARE YOU TO KEEP ME OUT!”
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pmSpose there’s room for Hadassa in the wooden crate?
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmralph ~ channeling George’s dad again, eh?
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm(wink)
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 pmWTF? Countdown to Nov. 4 when Lieberman will be put out to pasture by the Democratic leadership and he will have no job in a McCain administration because there will not be a McCain administration.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pmSERENITY NOW!
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pmLieberman has to be the most brazen politician in a corrupt and declining system.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmIf there is ANY argument against bailing out Wall Street, Joe LIE-berman just told why.
OT; I haven’t been on the threads much the last few days. Projectile vomiting and keyboards don’t mix.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmvotenic Says:
I think that Everyone should go to http://www.votenic.com and see what America thinks.
I think you should not be spamming this thread publicizing your website since it is a violation of TP’s TOS.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm#5th Estate Says:
I think votenic should eff-off with its opportunistic meaningless internet poll.
Report him like I did. It is a violation of TP’s rules to advertise here.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:32 pmIt’s nice that he finally spit it out: “But frankly, it will be good for John McCain too,” added Lieberman, explaining that “it will get people back to comparing the two candidates free of a sense of crisis that may make them want to turn against Republicans.”
A “Democrat” who worries about voters turning against Republicans? He’s not even pretending to be talking about “conservatives.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:37 pmHey Jumpin Jack Joe, the bailout/rescue whatever you want to call it isn’t good for anybody….especially the de-regulator/regulator McCain Brain Drain.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:43 pmWhat a traitorous dog Assholierthanthou Joementum is. The Dems must get senatorial supermajority so they can send Lieberman to “Siberia”. He’s a friggin’ DINO anyway. Isn’t there a move to censure him? You don’t need to do that, just win big so you don’t have to depend on the bastard. Some of these politicians have absolutely no idea how they appear to the public. Like that dildoheaded lout Phil Gramm. Could you imagine Deputy Dawg as President? WTF…! I think Lieberman is just trying to be a macher so his wife Griselda or whatever the hell her name is can kvell…
An Obama landslide would be nice as well as big long wide congressional coattails. Then his only problem will be the Rightwing Reactionary Roberts-Scalia Court declaring everything the Dems pass unconstitutional. In which case Obama should move to pack the Court!
The invert Von Clausewitz: Politics is war by other means.
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October 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pmif the Democratic party doesn’t send Droopy Dog out on his a**, i have lost all faith. when you start worrying about the opposition, you ARE the opposition. as if that’s the only reason to give him the boot….
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:06 pmoff topic: ever noticed that McCain and Lieberman both talk with a wicked underbite? like leathery old piranha?
Lieberman is a completely repulsive critter. Although he is right that passage of a bailout- oh, I mean rescue- might help McCain if the markets don’t crash and burn. I think that all of the posturing by these clowns and the extortion that passed for honest negotiations is a disgrace and we will all be paying for this for decades to come. Check out this piece; the logo really rocks.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 pm.
7 Houses…
13 Cars…
Private plane…
… How deep a portfolio?
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October 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 am