After Voting For Earmark-Laden Bailout Bill, McCain Seems To Call For Bush To Veto It
After Voting For Earmark-Laden Bailout Bill, McCain Seems To Call For Bush To Veto It
Last night, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) voted in favor of the $700 billion financial bailout bill, saying we “square in the greatest financial crisis of our lifetimes” and that he was “pleased” to be voting for the bill. McCain also told NPR he was “guardedly optimistic” the House would support the new version, which was packed with “sweeteners” aimed to bring House conservatives on board, as TP noted yesterday.
Though those “sweeteners” angered the MSNBC pundits this morning, McCain was hardly bothered, never mentioning them yesterday or during today’s cable news interviews. But when Joe Scarborough asked McCain about the pork projects, McCain flipped back to his standard anti-pork crusade, going so far as to suggest that that President Bush should veto the bill, “no matter what the stakes are:”
SCARBOROUGH: Why did these items have to be in this critical bill?
MCCAIN: Well that’s just the way the system is working in Washington and the reason why it’s got to be fixed, and it’s got to be changed. And no matter what the stakes are, you’ve got to stop this by starting to veto bills that come across the president’s desk. … It’s insanity and it’s obscenity, because it’s a waste of taxpayers’ dollars and it goes on, and until we stop it, until we get frankly a president who will say, I’m gonna veto these bills, I’m gonna make the people famous that put them on there, uh, famous.
Watch it:
Despite McCain’s constant railing against “pork barrel spending,” his actual voting record rarely matches his fiery rhetoric. He has scheduled many campaign events at venues that benefited from earmarked funding. When confronted with the realities of projects earmarks support — such as aid to Israel, military housing, and cancer treatment clinics, he has backtracked from his anti-pork crusade, saying it’s just “the process” he opposes. Even while criticizing the earmarks in an Iraq war funding bill, McCain still voted for it.
If a President McCain would veto the bill because of pork, why was the bill good enough to earn Senator McCain’s vote?
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McCain is Napoleon with melanomas.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 amIT IS MEDICAL RECORD RELEASE TIME.
Seriously.
The man is LOSING it.
He is showing the first signs of either Organic Brain Dementia or Alzheimer’s Disease. It is time for him to release his medical records.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 amQualifications for being a politician in the USA: Being able to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 amI honestly don’t think that’s what it is half the time anymore, Mr. Evil. I really do think there is a possibility that HE DOES NOT KNOW what he’s saying at any given moment.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 amThe Democrats in the Senate set him up for this vote. That’s why they placed all this “pork” in the bill.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 amHe never read the bill, he just voted for it because he thought a yeah vote would help his campaign. Ooo… looks like more boulders have been added to McCain’s sinking campaign.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 amEssentially the man is hoping that different groups of people only pay attention to certain things he says.
The people who are scared will see that he voted for the bill. The hope there is that they don’t bother to look beyond it.
The people who hate it will see that he also hates it. The hope there is that that will override him voting for it.
If anything, I think we’ve seen over the years that people will just listen to whatever is most like their existing beliefs. McCain’s camp tries to play off of this by sending out conflicting messages and being confusing.
Maybe this is giving him far too much credit, though.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 amHis thought process sounds a lot like my grandfather’s after his second stroke. Maybe McCain did have a TIA on stage yesterday. This guy is completely losing it. I doubt he even knows he is contradicting himself.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 amIf a President McCain would veto the bill because of pork, why was the bill good enough to earn Senator McCain’s vote?
In order to pander to both sides of the voting public?
He’s so desperate now that he’s saying what he thinks both sides want to hear in the same monologue.
He’s already been doing it with other issues. Soon he’ll be pro-issue and anti-issue in the same sentence to appeal to the soundbyte crowd…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 amLater in the interview, McCain also bizarrely declared that the bill he voted for is “putting us on the brink of economic disaster.”
If McCain were the family dog, some one would be taking him to the vet to be put out of his own misery…
Seriously, it’s sad watching this man decompose right in front of an entire country.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 amBy the way, nice admission by McCain that earmarks are down the last few years, i.e. since the 2006 elections threw the Republican leadership out.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 amCats r Flyfishn Says: He never read the bill, he just voted for it because he thought a yeah vote would help his campaign. Ooo… looks like more boulders have been added to McCain’s sinking campaign.
I’m really tired of politicians making their voting decisions based on how it impacts their electability. Obama’s FISA vote was no better.
I’ve been on the fence abou term limits, but I think this nightmare has finally swayed me to the side of ‘pro-term-limits’ in order to take a lot of the politics out of the vote.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
Anyone catch the excerpts from McLiar’s interview with the Des Moines register this week? Hysterical stuff, Johnny makes the mavericky claim that he tells the truth 100% of the time, campaign ads included. He got mighty testy when asked about statements that he has made that are less than honest. The way he adamently opposed the questioner’s assertion makes me seriously think that this IS a medical problem. He even dared anyone to prove that he has been untruthful. Politico.com takes him to task:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14208.html
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 amEXTORTION
and any politician who voted for this is part of the fraud.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 am“It’s insanity and it’s obscenity, because it’s a waste of taxpayers’ dollars and it goes on…”
McCurmudgeon knows insanity!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 amSubj: The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning …a message from Michael Moore
Friends,
Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies — who must soon vacate the White House — are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.
No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday’s New York Times and you can see what the real deal is:
“Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it.
“Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages.
“At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees.
“Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury’s proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions.”
Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to “consult” in the bailout.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 amThe problem is, nobody truly knows what this “collapse” is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn’t know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can’t figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone.
And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Falling for whom? NOTHING in this “bailout” package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance.
Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What’s this got to do with the Wall Street collapse?
It has everything to do with it. This so-called “collapse” was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people’s home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it’s because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn’t afford. Here’s the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage “crisis” may never have happened.
This bailout’s mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It’s to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It’s to make sure their yachts and mansions and “way of life” go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars!
I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something — NOW! Here’s what you can do immediately:
1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they’ve made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what’s the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street.
2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC).
3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama.
When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again!
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again.
P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we’ll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say “NO!” If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW.
Old man yells at cloud.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 amWhat absolutely EVERYONE should be doing is finding out who the 25 people who voted against this stupid bill are and write in one of THEM for president next month.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:43 amThis is getting more bizarre by the minute. First we have McCain running against himself by pretending he did not vote with the president 90% of the time. Then we have McCain running against the Washington “establishment” of which he has been a member for 26 years.
Now we have McCain running against himself again by voting for the rescue bill then saying the president should veto it.
Honestly, McCain is no Madonna, he cannot reinvent himself no matter how hard he tries.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 amLater in the interview, McCain also bizarrely declared that the bill he voted for is “putting us on the brink of economic disaster.”
Yesterday he blamed Obama for the House bill not passing…
The next sentence was ‘but now is not the time to place blame’.
I know he’s one beer short of a 6 pack, but this is scary stuff.
Dementia, Alzheimers, Bipolar, Shizoid, all of the above?
If you thought Bush was bad, the RNC has outdone itself with McCain.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 amI have to agree with the folks on the board that are worried about this man’s mental facilities. Whether stroke, senility, Alzheimer’s whatever, I am in the uncomfortable position of feeling sorry for the guy. I know he plays for the wrong team and has partnered up with the most despicable players ever made in America (i.e. Rove, Davis, Kristol, Black, Steve Schmidt, Graham etc.), but being a compassionate human being, I hate to see this type of a dramatic fall. I wish his ‘handlers’ would adress the issue at hand for the good of the country.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 amI suppose if you say enough things about enough things, keeping your opinions all over the place, that you go back later, when there is hind-sight in looking backward, and pull out the quotes that make you look prescient, while ignoring the other crazy sh!t you said that didn’t.
The problem is, he only has a month left…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 amI will give Wall Street creit for one thing though, they managed to do what no one in Washington has been able to do in a very long time – unite American citizens.
Unfortunately, they united us in our hatred for the rich. Pretty much how the French Revolution got started…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 amMy problem with the whole scenario is that the House Republican Conservatives voted against the first bill because there was too much money being given away. In light of that and the BS the Conservatives spout how can the bill be sweetened by adding a $1 Billion in pork (My apology Granny just told me that over $100 Million was for Puerto Rican Rum, an obscene amount for wooden arrows (I guess to shoot the pigs), and a tax give-away to Palin’s fellow moose-hunters? (Parse that sentence you English Profs!)
For once in his life I hope Chicken George WTF is sober enough and has balls enough (actually it will be out of spite) to veto the damn thing if the bipartisan House public-tit-sucking lying clowns pass it.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amAgain, he tries to come down squarely on both sides of the issue.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmAww, poor Granpy, caught in a lie again? Why me? he asks. “Cause life ain’t fair!”
If life was fair we could flush your shit*ty campaign down the toilet like it deserves
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pmGrampy’s favorite color is plaid; his favorite plant is the hedge.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pmHe is becoming a late stage Ronald Reagan without the charisma or wit.
He really has no clue what he is saying.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 pmMcCain is having some moments that make you wonder about the soundness of his mind and how his age may be a factor in that. This is why tonight’s debate is the most critical VP debate ever.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 pmMcCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 pmCrusty Old Bastard Says:
My problem with the whole scenario is that the House Republican Conservatives voted against the first bill because there was too much money being given away.
After all the pork that was added and the fact that they’re now saying those holdouts will vote yes, don’t you really think the only reason they voted nay was because they wanted to hold it hostage for their own pork? bet the House has pork of their own to add and by the time they’re done, it’ll be well past the original $700 billion.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 pmTwice during this interview he went on rants against Obama that had nothing to do with the discussion. The hosts changed to subject I think to help him not look so crazy.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 pmThe GOP hopes and prays that this senile old fart and stupid counterpart get in office because it’s increasingly obvious that they do not have the were-withal to make any decisions themselves. Therefore their handlers will be the ones behind the scenes pulling the strings. And who are the handlers? Rove and cronies, lobbyists, etc.
It would be the perfect scenario for them so they could sell America piecemeal without anyone being able to do anything about it.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pmsatirev, I did notice the ties and I came to the same conclusion you did. But I think the only way you can truly distract from his mental meanderings is if you dress him in plaid and stripes at the same time, maybe with some paisley thrown in.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pmEveryone seems to be using this financial “crisis” to justify their beliefs on any given range of issues… from Michael Moore (really liked that post btw) to Free-Market Conservatives. So, I’ll just add myself to the list with my long-held belief that we don’t need Wall St and we don’t need credit.
Buy what you can afford and don’t buy what you can’t. It’s really pretty simple. I figured it out back when I was 18 when I got a credit card to pay for books while I was in College from which I used only $400 and, through every fault of my own, eventually owed $4,000… I have never gotten a credit card since and I’m doing just fine. Everyone else can be fine, too. Let the whole thing collapse. It’s only been one long weekend at Bernie’s (sorry) since the beginning anyway.
You can not build an entire economy and way of life around the farse of “infinite growth” while existing in a world of finite resources. Shift the priority back from profits to people and we will be fine. That shift will only come from a “crisis” such as this, so I say so be it. Vote every single one of these criminals and terminally victimized arrogant wishy-washy bastards out of office. Write yourself in as the candidate and sit back and enjoy the show.
“It’s the end of the world and I feel fine.” No, really!
(Well, if you collectively promise to stop sending any more puking pumpkin emails this morning, that is. I’m hungover, you jerks! You know who you are.)
/Thanks for letting me rant.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pmbonzo 1958 Says: “…bet the House has pork of their own to add and by the time they’re done, it’ll be well past the original $700 billion.”
Bonzo,
Why do I get the feeling that “pork” means our money in their pockets? Talk about my chops (nothing to chew upon), spare (not extra but skinny) ribs, pickled feet (from walking because I can’t afford gas), and hocks (damn near every thing I could get a dime for at the pawn shop) and you have just described my pork.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm“Has anyone noticed that his handlers are having him wear outlandish, eye-boggling ties lately? Know why that is?”
Ha! I think you’re on to something. They are very reminiscent of those old mesmerizing picknic table cloths from childhood.
Has anyone else noticed that EVERY clip of McCain w/ Palin, you can see McCain fidgeting w/ his wedding band finger? ew
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pmWall Street created the risky sub-prime mortgage market and then turned those risky loans into investment vehicles which they then sold between themselves and holding banks all thanks to the deregulation THEY successfully lobbied the Republicans for.
Having artificially inflated stocks and the value of these mortgages (and taking profits from the transactions), 6 years of stagnant wages combined with a tripling of energy prices and the consequent increase in the cost of goods and services along with tax cuts for the wealthy and foolish rebates for the rest whilst the government borrowed to finance the Iraq occupation and increased spending on semi non-productive agencies (like the DoD) and non-productive agencies (like the DHS and Faith-based Initiatives amongst others), all of which devalued the dollar, led to an inevitable and predictable financial collapse as interest on all the borrowed money compounded and came due, revealing the deficit spending that had been purposely hidden or ignored by the Bush administration, it’s cronies in the Federal Reserve, the rubber-stamp Republicans and their financiers.
Having actually worked to create this financial mess and having profited from it up until now, this same clique now insists that none of this was their fault, that stupid homeowners are really to blame, and that the they deserve to be rescued from their own possible ‘foreclosure’, of their own making, or-else!
Once ‘rescued’ from their own irresponsible actions by a ‘loan’ from the cashed-strapped and already debt-laden general public, they promise not a guaranteed return or even a reasonable expectation of a return but only the possible ’stabilization’ of the economic turmoil they have created which does nothing more than at best than to restore America’s pre-crisis state of stagnant wages, unemployment, deficit spending, rising costs and interest due on borrowed money whilst leaving those who were in charge still in charge but with a trillion-dollar interest free ‘loan’ that they can convert into a gift–leaving the average citizen with the impractical consolation that it is “better to give than receive” when your are being bullied to hand over your lunch-money by the school’s star quarterback whose dad is the lifelong chum of the school Principal and it’s largest donor. And despite handing over the money the next day the situation will be played out again.
This is how I understand the entire “rescue” or whatever turd-polishing expression is used. The newly revised “rescue rescues only the status quo that created the crisis in the first place and in fact invests in it with tax-payer money where of course the tax-payer reaps no return from the ‘investment’ but the middle-men still make a profit on the transaction, just as they did before, and when the accounting is to be done the US taxpayer will have to record a loss whilst the middlemen will record yet another deductible expense that will be charged once again not only to the tax-payer but also to the tax-payers estate.
The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual theory which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology.
The current ’solution’ is based on the exact same demonstrably fallacious arguments that created the crisis in the first place.
I could be wrong of course, but given the past 7 years of arguments and actions by Bush, Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson, Gramm, the entire GOP and the economic history of the tax-cutting deficit-spending deregulating Reagan years I surely can’t be any more wrong than them, can I?
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pmWhen, at what point can someone ask a direct question, i.e., “Senator McCain, if you were President, would you veto this bill?”
It’s not a hard question.
While Mika Brzezinski was right to ask McCain why he voted for the bill in this economic crisis, she gave McCain the answer: “Because of the economic crisis.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm666lattes- Has anyone else noticed that EVERY clip of McCain w/ Palin, you can see McCain fidgeting w/ his wedding band finger? ew
YES AND EWW!! WE CAUGHT THAT THE VERY FIRST TIME WE SAW THEM TOGETHER. YOU KNOW THAT CREEPY OLD COOT JUST ASKED HER TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FLATTER HER TO GET IN HER PANTS. SHE WAS JUST STUPID ENOUGH TO ACCEPT RIGHT AWAY AND I DON’T THINK THE OLD FART COULD BACK OUT. NOT LIKE HE DOESN’T HAVE A THING FOR PAGEANT BIMBOS, EH?
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pmOops! That should read;
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm“The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual theory which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology put into practice by a determined self-affirming privileged financial and political elite that purposely and purposefully feeds and fed from the commonwealth without regard for the common cause. …
So…he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he’s for the bailout before he’s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time…?
Huh…?
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:54 pmHis forked tongues has forks. His thoughts are as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 pmLeftside Annie: “So…he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he’s for the bailout before he’s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time…?”
Oh silly Annie! You should know by now that McCain doesn’t speak for McCain!
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:10 pmWhat he meant to say was that he’s totally behind it, in front of it, on top of it and most importantly all over it.
What is it about “maverick”that you don’t understand? :D
Doc Rock: His forked tongues has forks. His thoughts are as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
And he makes as much sense as a “football-bat”! ( I forget who originally came up with that but it’s BRILLIANT!)
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:12 pmI watched a love one with Alzheimer’s and this is very painful to watch, especially because the mainstream media is not reporting the serious condition of McSame.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:15 pmswordsbane Says:
What absolutely EVERYONE should be doing is finding out who the 25 people who voted against this stupid bill are and write in one of THEM for president next month.
I have a question to all of you who are absolutely opposed to this bailout bill. What would you have Congress do. Sit there and wait for the economy to implode. It’s already doing that. Our colleges were cut off from funds yesterday. They don’t know how they are going to keep their doors open now.
I agree that the bailout is a bad bill. But, what choice do we have? Just wait for the stock market to crash? Some people say that the Democrats need to come up with a bill that favors Main Street and punishes Wall Street. I agree, but I also recognize the fact that such a bill would have zero chance of becoming law. The Republicans would oppose it completely and even if it was passed, Bush would veto it.
I think that Obama doesn’t like this bill any more than we do. But I also think that he is smart enough to know that we need to do something now and this bill seems to be the only option that can be passed. He doesn’t want to see our economy implode and Main Street lose their retirement savings that are now in the Stock Market. And if this bill isn’t passed, there will be no possible hope for the homeowners who are losing their homes. All Obama needs to do is to keep the economy from crashing for three more months, then he will be able to do something constructive to fix it.
So, to all you who are railing about this bailout bill, what do you suggest Obama/the Democrats do?
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:15 pmI wonder if McMoron realized before he voted that one of the earmarks he just voted in favor of is a huge tax break for Alaskan citizens — provisions that would prevent their proceeds from the Alaska Valdez settlement from being considered as taxable income.
Yep, that’s Grampy — voting in favor of earmarks for Miss Piggy’s state while griping out loud about there being too many earmarks in the bill. How mavericky!
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 pmWhether the bailout passes or not is besides the point. Our banking institutions are in trouble. Everyone should start looking ways to protect their money. This basically comes down to either taking your money out of the market and cutting discretionary spending or diversifying and investing some overseas. I personally use offshore bank accounts and they have helped me with diversification and asset protection. If you want to read more on why offshore investing is smarter, feel free to visit my website.
Best,
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 pmFrank Miller
http://www.theoffshorebankaccount.com
> but being a compassionate human being,
> I hate to see this type of a dramatic fall.
I don’t. Mccain has endangered litterlly the entire world in his twisted desparate quest to fullfill his dying wish of being president.
This man, whatever semi-decent person he might have been at some point, has become a world-engandering, dementia riddled monster. I wish him nothing but ill. When he dies I hope I get a chance to spit on his grave.
I say he’s dying of cancer, and he knows it. He knows hes going to put a mildy retarded religious fundamentalist in charge of the most powerful military machine in the world and he doesnt care because he THOUGHT (note the past tense) it was going to help him win.
I’m personally hoping the cancer gets him in the next few weeks, and therefore the media will then be forced to stop ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that if McCain wins, Palin WILL be president..and if that happens does anyone think that all the Neocons who got us into this mess wont be running the show the next time putin “rears his head” ?
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 pmHey Johnny Boy,
What happened to that OLD PEN of yours when YOU VOTED?????
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm5th Estate Says:
What is it about “maverick”that you don’t understand? :D
Uh…*all* of it, I guess. :o/
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm#59 Annie…
That’s okay, I don’t understand it either!
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pmHeh. I called it on the $700B thread last night. :D
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
So he condemns his own vote with his ridiculous campaign rhetoric?
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmWhy does McIIIrd hate McIIIrd?
Supporting a bill in public to scuttle it in private.
Never seen that before, huh ?
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmGuess he isn’t heeding to Lieberman’s statement that the passing of the bill will be good for him.
What utter confusion by Johnny Mac.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm