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	<title>Comments on: After Voting For Earmark-Laden Bailout Bill, McCain Seems To Call For Bush To Veto It</title>
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		<title>By: squidbilly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-2/#comment-5263798</link>
		<dc:creator>squidbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess he isn&#039;t heeding to Lieberman&#039;s statement that the passing of the bill will be good for him.  

What utter confusion by Johnny Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess he isn&#8217;t heeding to Lieberman&#8217;s statement that the passing of the bill will be good for him.  </p>
<p>What utter confusion by Johnny Mac.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263798', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-2/#comment-5263492</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supporting a bill in public to scuttle it in private.

Never seen that before, huh ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supporting a bill in public to scuttle it in private.</p>
<p>Never seen that before, huh ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he condemns his own vote with his ridiculous campaign rhetoric?
Why does McIIIrd hate McIIIrd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he condemns his own vote with his ridiculous campaign rhetoric?<br />
Why does McIIIrd hate McIIIrd?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263444', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  I called it on the $700B thread last night.  :D

&lt;blockquote&gt;Zooey Says:

katy Says:

well zooey, i hear we’re wrong…
mcLAME did vote YES.
October 1st, 2008 at 9:54 pm

&lt;em&gt;He’ll take it back tomorrow. &lt;/em&gt;:D
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  I called it on the $700B thread last night.  :D</p>
<blockquote><p>Zooey Says:</p>
<p>katy Says:</p>
<p>well zooey, i hear we’re wrong…<br />
mcLAME did vote YES.<br />
October 1st, 2008 at 9:54 pm</p>
<p><em>He’ll take it back tomorrow. </em>:D<br />
October 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59 Annie...

That&#039;s okay, I don&#039;t understand it either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59 Annie&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay, I don&#8217;t understand it either!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263312', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;5th Estate Says: 

What is it about “maverick”that you don’t understand? :D&lt;/em&gt;

Uh...*&lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt;* of it, I guess. :o/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>5th Estate Says: </p>
<p>What is it about “maverick”that you don’t understand? :D</em></p>
<p>Uh&#8230;*<strong>all</strong>* of it, I guess. :o/<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263270', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lapdogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>lapdogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Johnny Boy,

What happened to that OLD PEN of yours when YOU VOTED?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Johnny Boy,</p>
<p>What happened to that OLD PEN of yours when YOU VOTED?????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263248', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; but being a compassionate human being,
&gt; I hate to see this type of a dramatic fall.

I don&#039;t. Mccain has endangered litterlly the entire world in his twisted desparate quest to fullfill his dying wish of being president.
This man, whatever semi-decent person he might have been at some point, has become a world-engandering, dementia riddled  monster. I wish him nothing but ill. When he dies I hope I get a chance to spit on his grave.

I say he&#039;s dying of cancer, and he knows it. He knows hes going to put a mildy retarded religious fundamentalist in charge of the most powerful military machine in the world and he doesnt care because he THOUGHT (note the past tense) it was going to help him win.

I&#039;m personally hoping the cancer gets him in the next few weeks, and therefore the media will then be forced to stop ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that if McCain wins, Palin WILL be president..and if that happens does anyone think that all the Neocons who got us into this mess wont be running the show the next time putin &quot;rears his head&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; but being a compassionate human being,<br />
&gt; I hate to see this type of a dramatic fall.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t. Mccain has endangered litterlly the entire world in his twisted desparate quest to fullfill his dying wish of being president.<br />
This man, whatever semi-decent person he might have been at some point, has become a world-engandering, dementia riddled  monster. I wish him nothing but ill. When he dies I hope I get a chance to spit on his grave.</p>
<p>I say he&#8217;s dying of cancer, and he knows it. He knows hes going to put a mildy retarded religious fundamentalist in charge of the most powerful military machine in the world and he doesnt care because he THOUGHT (note the past tense) it was going to help him win.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally hoping the cancer gets him in the next few weeks, and therefore the media will then be forced to stop ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that if McCain wins, Palin WILL be president..and if that happens does anyone think that all the Neocons who got us into this mess wont be running the show the next time putin &#8220;rears his head&#8221; ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263206', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JDSalinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDSalinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the bailout passes or not is besides the point.  Our banking institutions are in trouble.  Everyone should start looking ways to protect their money.  This basically comes down to either taking your money out of the market and cutting discretionary spending or diversifying and investing some overseas.  I personally use offshore bank accounts and they have helped me with diversification and asset protection.  If you want to read more on why offshore investing is smarter, feel free to visit my website.  

Best,   
Frank Miller  
http://www.theoffshorebankaccount.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the bailout passes or not is besides the point.  Our banking institutions are in trouble.  Everyone should start looking ways to protect their money.  This basically comes down to either taking your money out of the market and cutting discretionary spending or diversifying and investing some overseas.  I personally use offshore bank accounts and they have helped me with diversification and asset protection.  If you want to read more on why offshore investing is smarter, feel free to visit my website.  </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Frank Miller<br />
<a href="http://www.theoffshorebankaccount.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoffshorebankaccount.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263176', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Dogfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dogfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if McMoron realized before he voted that one of the earmarks he just voted in favor of is a huge tax break for Alaskan citizens -- provisions that would prevent their proceeds from the Alaska Valdez settlement from being considered as taxable income.

Yep, that&#039;s Grampy -- voting in favor of earmarks for Miss Piggy&#039;s state while griping out loud about there being too many earmarks in the bill.  How &lt;em&gt;mavericky!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if McMoron realized before he voted that one of the earmarks he just voted in favor of is a huge tax break for Alaskan citizens &#8212; provisions that would prevent their proceeds from the Alaska Valdez settlement from being considered as taxable income.</p>
<p>Yep, that&#8217;s Grampy &#8212; voting in favor of earmarks for Miss Piggy&#8217;s state while griping out loud about there being too many earmarks in the bill.  How <em>mavericky!</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263170', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;swordsbane Says:
What absolutely EVERYONE should be doing is finding out who the 25 people who voted against this stupid bill are and write in one of THEM for president next month.&lt;/em&gt;

I have a question to all of you who are absolutely opposed to this bailout bill.  What would you have Congress do.  Sit there and wait for the economy to implode.  It&#039;s already doing that.  Our colleges were cut off from funds yesterday.  They don&#039;t know how they are going to keep their doors open now.

I agree that the bailout is a bad bill.  But, what choice do we have?  Just wait for the stock market to crash?  Some people say that the Democrats need to come up with a bill that favors Main Street and punishes Wall Street.  I agree, but I also recognize the fact that such a bill would have zero chance of becoming law.  The Republicans would oppose it completely and even if it was passed, Bush would veto it.

I think that Obama doesn&#039;t like this bill any more than we do.  But I also think that he is smart enough to know that we need to do something now and this bill seems to be the only option that can be passed.  He doesn&#039;t want to see our economy implode and Main Street lose their retirement savings that are now in the Stock Market.  And if this bill isn&#039;t passed, there will be no possible hope for the homeowners who are losing their homes.  All Obama needs to do is to keep the economy from crashing for three more months, then he will be able to do something constructive to fix it.

So, to all you who are railing about this bailout bill, what do you suggest Obama/the Democrats do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>swordsbane Says:<br />
What absolutely EVERYONE should be doing is finding out who the 25 people who voted against this stupid bill are and write in one of THEM for president next month.</em></p>
<p>I have a question to all of you who are absolutely opposed to this bailout bill.  What would you have Congress do.  Sit there and wait for the economy to implode.  It&#8217;s already doing that.  Our colleges were cut off from funds yesterday.  They don&#8217;t know how they are going to keep their doors open now.</p>
<p>I agree that the bailout is a bad bill.  But, what choice do we have?  Just wait for the stock market to crash?  Some people say that the Democrats need to come up with a bill that favors Main Street and punishes Wall Street.  I agree, but I also recognize the fact that such a bill would have zero chance of becoming law.  The Republicans would oppose it completely and even if it was passed, Bush would veto it.</p>
<p>I think that Obama doesn&#8217;t like this bill any more than we do.  But I also think that he is smart enough to know that we need to do something now and this bill seems to be the only option that can be passed.  He doesn&#8217;t want to see our economy implode and Main Street lose their retirement savings that are now in the Stock Market.  And if this bill isn&#8217;t passed, there will be no possible hope for the homeowners who are losing their homes.  All Obama needs to do is to keep the economy from crashing for three more months, then he will be able to do something constructive to fix it.</p>
<p>So, to all you who are railing about this bailout bill, what do you suggest Obama/the Democrats do?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263152', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kasinca</title>
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		<dc:creator>kasinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a love one with Alzheimer&#039;s and this is very painful to watch, especially because the mainstream media is not reporting the serious condition of McSame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a love one with Alzheimer&#8217;s and this is very painful to watch, especially because the mainstream media is not reporting the serious condition of McSame.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263150', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc Rock: &lt;em&gt;His forked tongues has forks. His thoughts are as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.&lt;/em&gt;

And he makes as much sense as a &quot;football-bat&quot;! ( I forget who originally came up with that but it&#039;s BRILLIANT!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Rock: <em>His forked tongues has forks. His thoughts are as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.</em></p>
<p>And he makes as much sense as a &#8220;football-bat&#8221;! ( I forget who originally came up with that but it&#8217;s BRILLIANT!)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263136', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leftside Annie: &lt;em&gt;&quot;So…he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he’s for the bailout before he’s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time…?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Oh silly Annie! You should know by now that McCain doesn&#039;t speak for McCain! 
What he &lt;em&gt;meant &lt;/em&gt;to say was that he&#039;s totally behind it, in front of it, on top of it and most importantly &lt;strong&gt;a&lt;em&gt;ll over it&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. 
What is it about &lt;em&gt;&quot;maverick&quot;&lt;/em&gt;that you don&#039;t understand?    &lt;strong&gt;:D&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leftside Annie: <em>&#8220;So…he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he’s for the bailout before he’s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time…?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Oh silly Annie! You should know by now that McCain doesn&#8217;t speak for McCain!<br />
What he <em>meant </em>to say was that he&#8217;s totally behind it, in front of it, on top of it and most importantly <strong>a<em>ll over it</em></strong>.<br />
What is it about <em>&#8220;maverick&#8221;</em>that you don&#8217;t understand?    <strong>:D</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His forked tongues has forks.  His thoughts are as crooked as a dog&#039;s hind leg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His forked tongues has forks.  His thoughts are as crooked as a dog&#8217;s hind leg.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he&#039;s for the bailout before he&#039;s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time...? 

Huh...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;he was against the bailout before they added the pork to it, and now he&#8217;s for the bailout before he&#8217;s against it, or is he for it and against it at the same time&#8230;? </p>
<p>Huh&#8230;?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263066', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-5263048</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  That should read; 
&quot;The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual theory which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology &lt;strong&gt;put into practice by a determined self-affirming privileged financial and political elite that purposely and purposefully feeds and fed from the commonwealth without regard for the common cause. &lt;/strong&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  That should read;<br />
&#8220;The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual theory which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology <strong>put into practice by a determined self-affirming privileged financial and political elite that purposely and purposefully feeds and fed from the commonwealth without regard for the common cause. </strong>&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the Lone Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-5263042</link>
		<dc:creator>the Lone Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>666lattes-  Has anyone else noticed that EVERY clip of McCain w/ Palin, you can see McCain fidgeting w/ his wedding band finger? ew

YES AND EWW!!  WE CAUGHT THAT THE VERY FIRST TIME WE SAW THEM TOGETHER.  YOU KNOW THAT CREEPY OLD COOT JUST ASKED HER TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FLATTER HER TO GET IN HER PANTS.  SHE WAS JUST STUPID ENOUGH TO ACCEPT  RIGHT AWAY AND I DON&#039;T THINK THE OLD FART COULD BACK OUT.  NOT LIKE HE DOESN&#039;T HAVE A THING FOR PAGEANT BIMBOS, EH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>666lattes-  Has anyone else noticed that EVERY clip of McCain w/ Palin, you can see McCain fidgeting w/ his wedding band finger? ew</p>
<p>YES AND EWW!!  WE CAUGHT THAT THE VERY FIRST TIME WE SAW THEM TOGETHER.  YOU KNOW THAT CREEPY OLD COOT JUST ASKED HER TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FLATTER HER TO GET IN HER PANTS.  SHE WAS JUST STUPID ENOUGH TO ACCEPT  RIGHT AWAY AND I DON&#8217;T THINK THE OLD FART COULD BACK OUT.  NOT LIKE HE DOESN&#8217;T HAVE A THING FOR PAGEANT BIMBOS, EH?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263042', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gooderservice</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-5263028</link>
		<dc:creator>gooderservice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When, at what point can someone ask a direct question, i.e., &quot;Senator McCain, if you were President, would you veto this bill?&quot;

It&#039;s not a hard question.

While Mika Brzezinski was right to ask McCain why he voted for the bill in this economic crisis, she gave McCain the answer:  &quot;Because of the economic crisis.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When, at what point can someone ask a direct question, i.e., &#8220;Senator McCain, if you were President, would you veto this bill?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a hard question.</p>
<p>While Mika Brzezinski was right to ask McCain why he voted for the bill in this economic crisis, she gave McCain the answer:  &#8220;Because of the economic crisis.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263028', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/mccain-veto-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-5263022</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wall Street &lt;strong&gt;created &lt;/strong&gt;the risky sub-prime mortgage market and then turned those risky loans into &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;investment &lt;/strong&gt;vehicles &lt;/em&gt;which they then sold between themselves and holding banks all thanks to the deregulation THEY successfully lobbied the &lt;strong&gt;Republicans &lt;/strong&gt;for.

Having artificially inflated stocks and the value of these mortgages (and taking profits from the transactions), 6 years of stagnant wages combined with a tripling of energy prices and the consequent increase in the cost of goods and services along with tax cuts for the wealthy and foolish rebates for the rest whilst the government borrowed to finance the Iraq occupation and increased spending on semi non-productive agencies (like the DoD) and non-productive agencies (like the DHS and Faith-based Initiatives amongst others), all of which devalued the dollar, led to an inevitable and predictable financial collapse as interest on all the borrowed money compounded and came due, revealing the deficit spending that had been purposely hidden or ignored by the Bush administration, it&#039;s cronies in the Federal Reserve, the rubber-stamp Republicans and their financiers.

Having actually worked to create this financial mess and having profited from it up until now, this same clique now insists that &lt;em&gt;none &lt;/em&gt;of this was their fault, that stupid homeowners are really to blame, and that the they deserve to be rescued from their own possible &#039;foreclosure&#039;, &lt;em&gt;of their own making&lt;/em&gt;, or-else!

Once &#039;rescued&#039; from their own irresponsible actions by a &#039;loan&#039; from the cashed-strapped and already debt-laden general public, they promise not a guaranteed return or even a reasonable expectation of a return but only the possible &#039;stabilization&#039; of the economic turmoil they have created which does nothing more than at best than to restore America&#039;s pre-crisis state of stagnant wages, unemployment, deficit spending, rising costs and interest due on borrowed money whilst leaving those who were in charge still in charge but with a trillion-dollar interest free &#039;loan&#039; that they can convert into a &lt;em&gt;gift&lt;/em&gt;--leaving the average citizen with the impractical consolation that it is &quot;better to give than receive&quot; when your are being bullied to hand over your lunch-money by the school&#039;s star quarterback whose dad is the lifelong chum of the school Principal and it&#039;s largest donor. And despite handing over the money the next day the situation will be played out again. 

This is how I understand the entire &quot;rescue&quot; or whatever turd-polishing expression is used. The newly revised &quot;rescue rescues only the &lt;em&gt;status quo&lt;/em&gt; that created the crisis in the first place and in fact invests in it with tax-payer money where of course the tax-payer reaps no return from the &#039;investment&#039; but the middle-men still make a profit on the &lt;em&gt;transaction&lt;/em&gt;, just as they did before, and when the accounting is to be done the US taxpayer will have to record a loss whilst the middlemen will record yet another deductible expense that will be charged once again not only to the tax-payer but also to the tax-payers estate. 

The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual &lt;em&gt;theory &lt;/em&gt;which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology. 
The current &#039;solution&#039; is based on the exact same demonstrably fallacious arguments that created the crisis in the first place.

I could be wrong of course, but given the past 7 years of arguments and actions by Bush, Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson, Gramm, the entire GOP and the economic history of the tax-cutting deficit-spending deregulating Reagan years I surely can&#039;t be any &lt;em&gt;more &lt;/em&gt;wrong than them, can I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wall Street <strong>created </strong>the risky sub-prime mortgage market and then turned those risky loans into <em><strong>investment </strong>vehicles </em>which they then sold between themselves and holding banks all thanks to the deregulation THEY successfully lobbied the <strong>Republicans </strong>for.</p>
<p>Having artificially inflated stocks and the value of these mortgages (and taking profits from the transactions), 6 years of stagnant wages combined with a tripling of energy prices and the consequent increase in the cost of goods and services along with tax cuts for the wealthy and foolish rebates for the rest whilst the government borrowed to finance the Iraq occupation and increased spending on semi non-productive agencies (like the DoD) and non-productive agencies (like the DHS and Faith-based Initiatives amongst others), all of which devalued the dollar, led to an inevitable and predictable financial collapse as interest on all the borrowed money compounded and came due, revealing the deficit spending that had been purposely hidden or ignored by the Bush administration, it&#8217;s cronies in the Federal Reserve, the rubber-stamp Republicans and their financiers.</p>
<p>Having actually worked to create this financial mess and having profited from it up until now, this same clique now insists that <em>none </em>of this was their fault, that stupid homeowners are really to blame, and that the they deserve to be rescued from their own possible &#8216;foreclosure&#8217;, <em>of their own making</em>, or-else!</p>
<p>Once &#8216;rescued&#8217; from their own irresponsible actions by a &#8216;loan&#8217; from the cashed-strapped and already debt-laden general public, they promise not a guaranteed return or even a reasonable expectation of a return but only the possible &#8217;stabilization&#8217; of the economic turmoil they have created which does nothing more than at best than to restore America&#8217;s pre-crisis state of stagnant wages, unemployment, deficit spending, rising costs and interest due on borrowed money whilst leaving those who were in charge still in charge but with a trillion-dollar interest free &#8216;loan&#8217; that they can convert into a <em>gift</em>&#8211;leaving the average citizen with the impractical consolation that it is &#8220;better to give than receive&#8221; when your are being bullied to hand over your lunch-money by the school&#8217;s star quarterback whose dad is the lifelong chum of the school Principal and it&#8217;s largest donor. And despite handing over the money the next day the situation will be played out again. </p>
<p>This is how I understand the entire &#8220;rescue&#8221; or whatever turd-polishing expression is used. The newly revised &#8220;rescue rescues only the <em>status quo</em> that created the crisis in the first place and in fact invests in it with tax-payer money where of course the tax-payer reaps no return from the &#8216;investment&#8217; but the middle-men still make a profit on the <em>transaction</em>, just as they did before, and when the accounting is to be done the US taxpayer will have to record a loss whilst the middlemen will record yet another deductible expense that will be charged once again not only to the tax-payer but also to the tax-payers estate. </p>
<p>The current financial crisis is not an unfortunate confluence of random events but the result of decades of economic theorizing (not actual <em>theory </em>which requires independent proof) based on selective assumptions made according to self-referential political and social ideology.<br />
The current &#8217;solution&#8217; is based on the exact same demonstrably fallacious arguments that created the crisis in the first place.</p>
<p>I could be wrong of course, but given the past 7 years of arguments and actions by Bush, Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson, Gramm, the entire GOP and the economic history of the tax-cutting deficit-spending deregulating Reagan years I surely can&#8217;t be any <em>more </em>wrong than them, can I?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5263022', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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