McCain Flack Inadvertently Accuses McCain Of A ‘100 Percent Lie’ On Health Care Tax Increase
McCain Flack Inadvertently Accuses McCain Of A ‘100 Percent Lie’ On Health Care Tax Increase
On Sunday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) admitted that his health care plan raises taxes. “[O]nly those with the Cadillac gold-plated health insurance policies today are the ones who might suffer from it,” he claimed. Today, McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds, however, contradicted McCain, claiming that it is a “100 percent lie” to say that McCain’s health care plan would be a tax increase:
First of all, is John McCain’s health care plan actually effectively would do wonders for the middle class. … Health care would get better. It would be more accessible to middle class families … What is campaign is doing is advertising in complete falsehoods. They’ve said that John McCain wants to tax health care. It is a 100 percent lie.
Watch it:
Bounds claimed that the McCain plan would do “wonders for the middle class.” But, because McCain’s tax credits are indexed to inflation — and not the faster growing cost of health care — his initial $5,000 offering depreciates every year, forcing families to pay more for their health insurance. As a recent CAPAF report states, the largest tax hike falls on the middle class.
For a couple earning $40,000 and paying $13,800 for insurance, “McCain’s new tax credit would cut their taxes by $50 in 2009, but because the credit quickly falls behind rising premiums that are the basis of the current tax break, the family would pay $1,169 more in taxes in 2013…[and] would pay $2,809 more in taxes by 2018”:
Perhaps this is yet another case of McCain not speaking for the McCain campaign.
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McCain and Bounds are cut from the same cloth. Let’s hope they’re both toast on November 4.
October 4th, 2008 at 9:51 amOne would think that Tucker Bounds might have concern about his future when speaking with forked tongue every day?
Interestingly, if you parse the (translated) text hermeneutically, the 8th (or 9th, depending) Commandment doesn’t forbid “lying” per se. It forbids “bearing false witness against a neighbor.” Not “lying,” but “slander” is what prohibited by the Lord. Everybody knows (even “God” apparently) that sometimes ya gotta lie to cover your ass…
October 4th, 2008 at 10:18 amBounds certainly does his job very well. His task is a combination of parroting back every talking point to support the McCain campaign perspective and to project every fault they are accused of onto Obama and his campaign, basically claiming that Obama is doing exactly what McCain is criticized for. He has been hired to argue from only that perspective, and I actually think he could argue for any perspective he is hired to espouse just as effectively and stubbornly. That, of course, makes him nothing more than a hack for hire, but I bet his price goes up after this campaign due to his tireless efforts whether they get McCain into office or not.
October 4th, 2008 at 10:25 amDo they really propose to write into their policy a dollar amount? $5,000? It’s inadequate now, but in two or three years it would be inadequate for anybody. Non-group premium have been doubling roughly two years.
October 4th, 2008 at 10:29 amAnd their sneering reference to people with those ‘gold-plated, Cadillac’ insurance coverage,” as if that’s an elitist thing, is just incomprehensible. ‘Look! They have adequate health insurance! Get ‘em!”
Mcain/Palin 08? You can’t afford it.
McCain Flack Inadvertently Accuses McCain Of A ‘100 Percent Lie’ On Health Care Tax Increase -TP
They’ve said that John McCain wants to tax health care. It is a 100 percent lie. -TB
something’s lost in translation?
i don’t get it, TP.
what i hear is bounds saying “it is a 100 percent lie” that obama’s ["is"?] campaign “said that john mccain wants to tax health care”…
he can say that if he wants…
what is “inadvertently” about any of this?
argh! maybe it’s too early for me…
October 4th, 2008 at 10:31 amnow they’re really
starting to eat each other.
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October 4th, 2008 at 10:47 amWhy do the Three Stooges keep coming to mind…?
October 4th, 2008 at 10:52 amkaty Says:
McCain Flack Inadvertently Accuses McCain Of A ‘100 Percent Lie’ On Health Care Tax Increase -TP
They’ve said that John McCain wants to tax health care. It is a 100 percent lie. -TB
something’s lost in translation?
I don’t get it, TP.
Even if you interpret it the way that you do, it is still making McCain out to be a liar. Bounds is saying that the Obama campaign says that McCain wants to tax health care and that is a lie (that McCain won’t tax health care). But it isn’t a lie because McCain admitted that it would end up in a tax increase for some people.
October 4th, 2008 at 10:52 amthank you, bilbo…
oy. my head hurts. but i get it now. and realize i always did, by your explanation, after all…
and there it is, in the first sentence… *sigh*
think i’ll take a drive today… what harm could come from that…?
October 4th, 2008 at 11:09 amlater all…
You know it’s over for the McCain campaign when the biggest on going debates over flip-flopping are all occuring from within.
Palin contradicts McCain weekly, and doesn’t seem to care that she disagrees with him. She acts like she’s the top of the ticket, and it’s okay for her to change little Johnny’s mind (diaper)…
October 4th, 2008 at 11:11 amgood one, un.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:17 amIf you think we’ve seen ugly from the McCain campaign up until now, brace yourselves for the sickest and most vile ads between now and election day.
McCain is desperate now…
October 4th, 2008 at 11:20 amEverything that Tucker Bounds says is one of three things:
Ignorant;
Stupid;
or a complete Lie.
It just doesn’t get any more ridiculous than Tucker Bounds. This guy is going to be selling umbrellas on the sidewalk in a couple of years because his ignorance, stupidity, and mendacity are absolutely toxic to those in whose employ he serves.
To John McSame… drop this guy like a bad habit.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:24 amThe lead political story on MSNBC,
McCain plans fiercer strategy against Obama
GOP plans to focus on Democrat’s judgment, honesty and personal ties
Ready, Set ?
KEATING FIVE, RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS, CAMPAIGN STAFF COMPRISED OF CORPORATE WHORING LOBBYISTS!
KEATING FIVE, RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS, CAMPAIGN STAFF COMPRISED OF CORPORATE WHORING LOBBYISTS!
KEATING FIVE, RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS, CAMPAIGN STAFF COMPRISED OF CORPORATE WHORING LOBBYISTS!
KEATING FIVE, RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS, CAMPAIGN STAFF COMPRISED OF CORPORATE WHORING LOBBYISTS!
KEATING FIVE, RELEASE MEDICAL RECORDS, CAMPAIGN STAFF COMPRISED OF CORPORATE WHORING LOBBYISTS!
Yes, two can play at this McIIIrd.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:27 amI happen to be one of the lucky bastards who gets excellent health care for myself and family for about $350 a month.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:29 amMcIIIrd’s plan will tax me on the value of the package that the employer pays, so he’s raising my taxes.
How does a a couple who earns $40,000 afford $13,800 for insurance?
October 4th, 2008 at 11:31 amTax policy and accounting rules are tools used by business leaders to get their way.
The big money boys loved “mark to market” accounting when everything was going up. It allowed them to borrow more. Now that things flipped, they want to dump it.
Now with estimating hold to maturity values and off balance sheet accounting, a firm’s financial statements could be way off.
There was no sign of SemGroup’s sudden failure. One might expect an oil and natural gas pipeline company to have solid financials, but hedging took them down, virtually overnight.
HCA, the largest for-profit hospital company, has $1.6 billion in investment junk on their books.
Companies just got their bailout. Whether they buy SemGroup’s underwater forward looking contracts or HCA’s auction rate securities remains to be seen.
But the Chamber of Commerce wants to jettison that pesky health insurance benefit and McCain is their best friend. If the employee gets the credit, they’ll soon pay the freight. Employers want to ditch the burden of the benefit so they can compete in a global economy.
It also will boost non-retiring CEO incentive compensation. The poison of greed remains in the system. The bailout bill did nothing structural. It is a one time sloughing off bad risk to the public. Health insurance is the next dump.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:32 amRepugs are desperate. Expect wars or whores…
October 4th, 2008 at 11:33 amIn the end, this is the result of these kinds of internal conflicts:
October 4th, 2008 at 11:37 am
McCain Flack Inadvertently Accuses McCain Of A ‘100 Percent Lie’ On Health Care Tax Increase”
– - Uhhh, no, he didn’t. He accused the Obama campaign of lying. Geeze.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:40 amAlso from the linked article:
October 4th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Who Lied Today? Says:
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How does a a couple who earns $40,000 afford $13,800 for insurance?
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Pay for your largest expenses ( Insurance, rent/mortgage, bills)out of pocket, as much as possible; then, charge your day to day living expenses( food, gas, etc.) while paying the minimum on your credit cards.
October 4th, 2008 at 11:57 amSee a flow chart of Sarah Palin’s debate technique on TheZoo. :D
October 4th, 2008 at 12:04 pmRUCerious Says:
McIIIrd’s plan will tax me on the value of the package that the employer pays, so he’s raising my taxes.
TP, this is the HUGE part of the story that you are leaving out. Maybe you mentioned it a previous day, but it needs repeating.
October 4th, 2008 at 2:23 pmI wonder how many KoolAide trucks it takes to spin these HACKS up every morning?? THAT’S got to cost a bunch and may explain why McSame pulled out of Michigan… (only one MINOR reason)..
It’s been clear for weeks that Tucker Bounds has got the IQ of a bag of hammers and is barely able to be a puppet much less a marketeer for these fools.. Hopefully they have no day job left when this campaign is done…
With this nutbag and Nancy Pfotenhauer on Maddow’s show last night the scum is quickly getting REAL deep…
October 4th, 2008 at 2:23 pmHuckleberry Bounds has the voice, face and demeanor of a cartoon dog. How did he get his position?
October 4th, 2008 at 2:37 pmI’m confused here.
Has John McCain ever spoken for the McCain campaign?
It seems like at least once a week someone comes out and tells us that what John said wasn’t exactly what the campaign is about. Call me foolish, but it is the McCain campaign and John is the “McCain” in the McCain campaign.
Is this going to turn out to be like an episode of the old British spy program “The Prisoner” where #6 wins the campaign to be #2 then finds out it was all a lie and his assistant is actually in charge?
I really don’t want to find Palin in charge. Not enough note cards for her to handle everything with a talking point.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pmSo….the ultimate welfare queen grampy mclame wants to screw the rest of us out of our health care insurance? i say he should put his money where his mouth is and a) refuse the gold plated cadillac insurance being a member of the senate gives him and b) pony up five grand to buy his own.
October 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pmDo Flippy McSpin and “his” campaign have anything in common? Do they even bother talking to each other?
October 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pmI wonder if Michael Cera will play Tucker Bounds in the movie.
October 4th, 2008 at 6:58 pmWhatta twat!
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
McCain-Palin are LIARS, HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:00 pmHow absolutely funny that the repugs are using the word “lie.”
I would die if I were to serve under mcchimpy command.
People have die needlessly under all repug prezidents.
repugs are arrogant, dangerous, liars, and stupid as gosh darn (excuse my french.)
This feeble minded woman (plain) is pressing lies about Sen. Obama. She won’t do interviews but she’s for slinging shit. plain look at your dysfunctional family and your running mate unadulterated bs then STFU hack.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:46 pmThis is done intentionally. McCain is allowed to admit the truth, as long as the sycophant drones can cancel it out later by contradicting it with aa absolute lie.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:48 pmpete Says:
Do Flippy McSpin and “his” campaign have anything in common? Do they even bother talking to each other?
It’s obvious that mcchimpy doesn’t know how to work a radio. It’s too advance for these scrambled brain bullpatties.
The repugs are dangerous jokes.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:50 pmrepugs, negative publicity only works if one is in sports or a movie star.
Besides when the taxman says one will get a 10K exemption bet on the tax chart it won’t make a bit of difference. It’s all bs.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:54 pmTell me health insures wouldn’t cheat this all to hell. How many companies can say every year they will get an automatic winfall (mc5K)?
October 4th, 2008 at 8:10 pmZooey Says:
If you think we’ve seen ugly from the McCain campaign up until now, brace yourselves for the sickest and most vile ads between now and election day.
flamin’ palin came out with the old AYERS theme today… with a new twist:
“palling around with terrorists” (though i’d bet she said pallin’)…
at least they’re recycling…
check this out: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/sarah-palinbill.html
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p.s. i found out, first hand, that there is an effort to, well, in his own words:
“Trust me, my fellow graduates and myself are working on getting this poor excuse for a human being fired from his position at the university.”
Sieg Heil! Go Brownshirts! (my reaction, to myself… other wise, speechless)
(i am sickened that this is a relative, young too, 30, white collar… what to do?!?)
October 4th, 2008 at 8:59 pm