Months after Supreme Court ruling, detainee cases still unresolved.
Months after Supreme Court ruling, detainee cases still unresolved.
In its landmark habeas corpus decision in June, the Supreme Court ruled that Guantanamo Bay detainees deserve to have their cases heard quickly because “the costs of delay can no longer be borne by those who are held in custody.” However, the New York Times reports that four months later, “none of the scores of cases brought by detainees have been resolved by any judge”:
Since the Supreme Court issued its ruling, lawyers for most of the 255 detainees in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, have pressed ahead with habeas corpus lawsuits, yet most of those cases have been delayed by battles over issues like whether some court sessions will be held in secret, whether detainees can attend and what level of proof will justify detention. [...]
Officials and lawyers inside and outside of the government say the new legal confrontation suggests that the Bush administration will most likely continue its defense of the detention camp until the end of President Bush’s term and is not likely to close the camp, as administration officials have said they would like to do.
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Okay. I am goin’ to pull a Failin’ Palin and not answer that question! I am goin’ right over the heads of the MSB (mainstream bloggers) and talkin’ right to the American people, dontcha know.
Here are two excellent articles:
1) Failin’ Palin said she reads The Economist when she got a “do-over” chance at Couric’s question. I wonder if she read this one comparing economic plans –> http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127
2) and here is an excellent article about the life and times of McNumbNuts –> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print
The Rolling Stone article is very lengthy but well worth the read.
October 5th, 2008 at 9:03 amOh, yes, and by the way, it looks like Failin’ Palin really doesn’t believe that “payin’ taxes is patriotic” –> http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/10/4/175327/777
October 5th, 2008 at 9:04 amI thought Bush had “zero tolerance” for people breaking the law. Thar doesn’t apply to his “Just Us” department. Or to those Wall Street fat cats that sold fraudulent packaged securities and undeliverable credit coverage.
October 5th, 2008 at 9:06 amWho’s there to enforce it, the criminal scofflaws in the executive branch?
October 5th, 2008 at 9:06 amDoc – there is suppose to be other branches too, but the “opposition” has vacated their duties and responsibility.
When pelosi proclaimed “impeachment is off the table” she was really saying, “the door’s wide-open, gang. Come on in and steal what you can while the gittin’s good.”
I understand while the criminals don’t arrest themselves and send themselves to jail.
I don’t understand (or accept) that the folks that ran on “accountability” in 2004 (and won) will not do anything – even when one of their own was sent to prison by the criminal justice department.
October 5th, 2008 at 9:11 amThis is part and parcel of what defines the Bush administration. Here they are defying a Supreme Court ruling. Bush signing statements show him altering bills after they have passed both houses of Congress. Appointing known deregulators to positions dealing with regulation has lead to a financial meltdown in the country. The examples of Bush being a rogue President are everywhere.
October 5th, 2008 at 9:51 amsatirev, Maybe, but it doesn’t matter a bit – they are on the court for life. All the more reason why an “opposition” party must provide diligent oversight.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:31 amI have the right-wing world view down: Congress & Supreme Court decisions are merely suggestions. Thank you for your feedback, do not reply to this email.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:35 amBush will be impeached defacto – before he is sent to prison.
Please, don’t make me laugh – the dems have capitulated to him every step of they way, even when his approval rating has dropped below that of richard nixon just before he resigned.
Even when the public overwhelmingly DID NOT support retro immunity nor a trillion dollar bailout of Wall Street.
If the dems intended to do anything, could have happened long ago – not likely they will start after they vacated their responsibility BEFORE things melted down.
I am afraid obama will pull another bill clinton and give all the criminals from the previous administration a “free pass” on everything.
If he intended to do anything, he would not have lied (i.e. filibuster any bill with retro immunity or help main street not wall street, then vote for wall street) and then capitulated to this most unpopular figurehead in the White House.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:36 amAnother Joe Says:
satirev, Maybe, but it doesn’t matter a bit – they are on the court for life.
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Actually, a SCOTUS justice can be impeached.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:38 amHey, TP…
It’s “Ruling”, not “Ruiling”…
October 5th, 2008 at 10:40 amGood!
Then one of the first things Obama can do when he (hopefully) takes office is… Close Down Guantanimo, Restore Habeus Corpus rights for the ” presumed innocent until proven guilty”, and Begin to Restore America’s Tarnished World Image.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:47 amI think Obama has so many “first things” to do upon taking office that he’ll get around to his first-term agenda when his second term is up.
October 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amtom Says: and here is an excellent article about the life and times of McNumbNuts –> http://www.rollingstone.com/ news/ story/ 23316912/ makebelieve_maverick/ print
That one’s a must read for everyone who is thinking of voting for McCain.
It’s priceless when Rolling Stone says George Bush was a “much better pilot” than Johnny.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:00 am
And that is where the GOP hopes to leave Obama with a Carter -esque legacy: bury the competent president with a mound of problems, set an unrealistic timetable to deal with those problems, and convince the voters after one term that the solution isn’t working fast enough, so it’s time to usher back in the problem.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:04 amMcWars Says: And that is where the GOP hopes to leave Obama with a Carter -esque legacy: bury the competent president with a mound of problems, set an unrealistic timetable to deal with those problems, and convince the voters after one term that the solution isn’t working fast enough, so it’s time to usher back in the problem.
If Obama does enough during his first term to ameriorate the current situtaion, the Cons will, yet again, have miscalculated.
This time, the phrase ‘are you better off?’ will be answered in the positive, and people will re-elect the man who made things better.
If FDR could do it, then so can Obama.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:10 amHi unb.
I have to hope for the sake of moving forward, with all due respect to president carter, that Obama has the better managerial talent. He has a real knack for policy and that will be his strong suit.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:14 amsatirev Says:
More bad news for McCain and Palin: Defrauding the IRS
Interestingly, Moosie’s tax returns did not include the $60,000 per diem as required by law; McGambler’s recently released tax return did not include his gambling earnings.
Two frauds cut from the same cloth.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ martha-miller/ mccains-tax-returns-hide_b_131675.html
Just why isn’t this making the MSM? Wittle Sawah’s fragile gains from passing the first grade on Thursday need to be protected, I suppose.
And they want us to believe that the well-off pay the larger share of taxes the world over.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:20 amTime to release those tax records, time to explain the failure to report gambling winnings, time to explain the failure to report state travel reimbursements, time to release those medical records.
THE FAX MACHINE COULD USE A DAY OF HONEST WORK.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:22 amMcWars Says: I have to hope for the sake of moving forward, with all due respect to president carter, that Obama has the better managerial talent. He has a real knack for policy and that will be his strong suit.
Howdy :)
I think the thing that Obama has finally gotten right is that he’s learned from the past mistakes of others.
I don’t expect him to be perfect, but I do think he’ll give us, at a minimum, a blend of the best traits of the former presidents JFK, FDR, Carter, and Clinton. Unlike Bush and McCain, Obama has learned about history. I think that will matter, just as Bush’s not knowing history has mattered.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:23 amMcWars Says: And they want us to believe that the well-off pay the larger share of taxes the world over.
I love how Conservatives pull out the IRS tax tables as proof of this absurd claim. It’s so easy to debunk with the GAO report.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 amRight on, unb.
Did you hear about the 90-year-old who rightfully had her mortgage forgiven? Dennis Kucinich is a progressive if there ever was one, for putting the word out. Fannie Mae, to their credit, took action.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:28 amMcWars Says: Dennis Kucinich is a progressive if there ever was one
His speech, and Bernie Sander’s, on the bail-out bill were heart-warming. Unfortunately wee have too many voting rednecks in this country to ever promote them beyond their current ranks…
October 5th, 2008 at 11:34 amOn topic…
I seem to remember that when the SCOTUS made it;s ruling the prisoners’ (not “detainee’s”) lawyers were not allowed to tell their clients about the apparent court victory.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:35 amI thought that was outrageous at the time. but now, assuming the order has been adhered-to maybe it’s not so crazy after all. Imagine after all these years being told that you case would be resolved “quickly” only to learn that its complete bullshit. Even one weren’t already insane from the manner of one;s imprisonment and treatment I’d think be jerked around that like would send a person over the edge.
Of all the things Bush does that make my blood boil. Lie about the reasons for wars, lie actually about everything, screw the people to help the rich and so on. THIS is what makes me maddest. The man just doesnt think the law applies to him. He ought to be in an orange jumpsuit by noon.
October 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pmre carter:
It might interest you all to know that whilst the National Debt increased from $719 Billion to $930 Billion in his four years ( say, 30%) the Debt to GDP ratio was reduced from 35.8% to 32.5%
Under Reagan the Debt went from $930B to $1,622B in 4 years and to $2,800B at the end of his 2nd term. Bush 41 took it from that to $4,400B. Debt to GDP under Reagan/Bush went from 32.5% to 64.4%—a 100% increase
That right there is yer deficit spending–Reagan’s economic growth was put on the national credit card and only the minimum was paid each month.
Clinton’s 8 years saw the National Debt rise from $4,400B to $5,800B (about a 30% increase)but the Debt to GDP ratio decreased from a high of 67.3% to 57.4% in his last 4 years.
That’s your economic boom AND paying the interest on it.
And Bush 43? National Debt increased from $5,800B to $10,000B (say a 90$ increase) and the Debt to GDP increased from 57.4% to 70%.(a roughly 50% increase: put McCain in for a term and it would surely get to 100% just like Reagan/Bush41).
Oh yeah and if you want to measure with the DOW, under Carter there was no net gain or loss.
Under Bush 43 there may be no net gain or loss either, but Bush is the one who was supposed to make everyone rich.
Bush had the media behind him insisting that the economy was in great shape and the reason it isn’t, is entirely due to the Bush administration actions of invading Iraq and borrowing for its occupation, deregulating lending (and borrowing), shipping jobs overseas, allowing the shipping of taxable corporate income to overseas tax shelters, refusing to spend on job development and ignoring the national debt he inherited.
Carter actually did a very good job in keeping the US economy stable. Clinton improved the economy AND paid down the debt.
October 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pmBush 43 and the Republicans have managed to increase the debt and destabilize the economy and have established multiple records in doing so.
#31 satirev : And note who hasn’t scored an interview with Sarah Palin (ever) or John McCain lately? Why it’s NBC.
Though why did FOX only get $80 million, I wonder? That might kibosh my instant conspiracy theory somewhat.
October 5th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThe game:
“Delay, delay, delay … then dump in the lap of the next guy along with pardons all around.”
Cheers,
October 6th, 2008 at 1:21 pm