Comments on: Iraqi women fear going public in elections. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:51:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: wiley http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270496 wiley Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:57:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270496 Before they were "liberated" Iraqi women didn't fear going to the polls, or going out with or without the head covering of their choice, and they were half the professional and collegiate population of the country. IRAQ WAS A SECULAR NATION---NOT A THEOCRACY. Before they were “liberated” Iraqi women didn’t fear going to the polls, or going out with or without the head covering of their choice, and they were half the professional and collegiate population of the country.

IRAQ WAS A SECULAR NATION—NOT A THEOCRACY.

]]> By: SKdeA http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270440 SKdeA Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:29:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270440 Impeach, convict, incarcarate. Impeach, convict, incarcarate.

]]> By: wizard2000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270386 wizard2000 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:15:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270386 What Bush and Cheney (and the crazed neo-cons) did in invading Iraq in 2003 was unleash a bunch of religious serial killers on Iraqi citizens (at least outside the Kurdish areas), religious serial killers who've been terrorizing Iraqi women (and teenage girls) for over five years now. Women who are afraid to run for office doesn't even come close to describing a democracy...a theocratic hell, yes...but hardly a freedom-loving, egalitarian democracy, with respect being shown all members of a society, with equal protection under democratic laws. Iraq is hardly this. In fact, Iraq under Saddam Hussein looked more like a secular democracy than anything we've seen since Bush and Cheney (and the crazed neo-cons) launched the illegal attack against Iraq in 2003. Weep for the women and children of Iraq...and impeach Bush and Cheney NOW. And if not NOW, then impeach them next year so that they'll NEVER be able to serve in public office again. What Bush and Cheney (and the crazed neo-cons) did in invading Iraq in 2003 was unleash a bunch of religious serial killers on Iraqi citizens (at least outside the Kurdish areas), religious serial killers who’ve been terrorizing Iraqi women (and teenage girls) for over five years now.

Women who are afraid to run for office doesn’t even come close to describing a democracy…a theocratic hell, yes…but hardly a freedom-loving, egalitarian democracy, with respect being shown all members of a society, with equal protection under democratic laws.

Iraq is hardly this. In fact, Iraq under Saddam Hussein looked more like a secular democracy than anything we’ve seen since Bush and Cheney (and the crazed neo-cons) launched the illegal attack against Iraq in 2003.

Weep for the women and children of Iraq…and impeach Bush and Cheney NOW. And if not NOW, then impeach them next year so that they’ll NEVER be able to serve in public office again.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270260 MapleStreet Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:23:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270260 23, 24 - lurker and HusseinToasterHead Touche' But you know, I just don't think that ethnic cleansing was quite what Jesus had in mind. ;-) 23, 24 – lurker and HusseinToasterHead

Touche’

But you know, I just don’t think that ethnic cleansing was quite what Jesus had in mind. ;-)

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270140 Chocolate Jesus Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:44:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270140 sorry i didnt finish one of my sentences.. "imagine if they started using women as figureheads just to get votes?" sorry i didnt finish one of my sentences..

“imagine if they started using women as figureheads just to get votes?”

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5270132 Chocolate Jesus Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:44:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5270132 > or that the parties will just find women > to act as figureheads to fill the quota. oh no...and imagine if they went dont we have some brave female figurheads overhere that we could send them..dont we have some that think iraq is a task from god? SEND THEM! > or that the parties will just find women
> to act as figureheads to fill the quota.

oh no…and imagine if they went

dont we have some brave female figurheads overhere that
we could send them..dont we have some that think iraq is a task from god? SEND THEM!

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269936 Bob Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:56:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269936 It took just over a hundred years in this country for women to be alllowed to vote. Having a woman on the top ticket is still a big deal here, especially since a woman's never won. It is so silly to mandate such things when we're not exactly there ourselves. Instant democracy: just add water and mix well. Instant equality: just add water and mix well. That's how it seems the 'planners' see it. It took just over a hundred years in this country for women to be alllowed to vote. Having a woman on the top ticket is still a big deal here, especially since a woman’s never won. It is so silly to mandate such things when we’re not exactly there ourselves.

Instant democracy: just add water and mix well.
Instant equality: just add water and mix well. That’s how it seems the ‘planners’ see it.

]]> By: livelongandprosper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269874 livelongandprosper Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:31:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269874 <em>parties will just find women to act as figureheads to fill the quota. </em> You mean like McCain picking Palin? parties will just find women to act as figureheads to fill the quota.

You mean like McCain picking Palin?

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269872 hussein toasterhead Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:30:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269872 <i>MapleStreet Says: OTOH - I can’t imagine that we would know so little about sociology that we wouldn’t anticipate trouble in suddenly taking a patriarical society and mandating 25% female. October 6th, 2008 at 4:50 pm </i> ______ When we invaded, we didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shi'a. Some people running for President still don't... MapleStreet Says:

OTOH – I can’t imagine that we would know so little about sociology that we wouldn’t anticipate trouble in suddenly taking a patriarical society and mandating 25% female.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
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When we invaded, we didn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shi’a.

Some people running for President still don’t…

]]> By: lurker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269868 lurker Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:24:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269868 MapleStreet Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lurker and Toasterhead - ?Christian Militias??????????? Does it seem unchristian to have a militia? Jesus said this:"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34) MapleStreet Says:
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Lurker and Toasterhead – ?Christian Militias???????????

Does it seem unchristian to have a militia?

Jesus said this:”Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34)

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269862 Buckie Boy Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:23:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269862 Would you? Maybe send old McCancerGonnaDie&NaziBarbiBecomesPres should go over there and lead the way with the Not-so-Straight-Talk-Express. Would you? Maybe send old McCancerGonnaDie&NaziBarbiBecomesPres should go over there and lead the way with the Not-so-Straight-Talk-Express.

]]> By: lurker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269842 lurker Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:08:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269842 misshusseinmolly Says: one portraying Palin giving a motivational speech to Iraqi women about putting “country first” and being a “maverick”. She could also show them her "wink" style too because it won't be long before they have to wear burka's and all anyone will see will be their eyes. misshusseinmolly Says:
one portraying Palin giving a motivational speech to Iraqi women about putting “country first” and being a “maverick”.

She could also show them her “wink” style too because
it won’t be long before they have to wear burka’s and all
anyone will see will be their eyes.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269840 pete Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:08:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269840 U.S. to Iraq: "You're free! To do precisely what we tell you". U.S. to Iraq: “You’re free! To do precisely what we tell you”.

]]> By: raynman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269834 raynman Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:04:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269834 but but but.... the surge worked didn't it?? but but but…. the surge worked didn’t it??

]]> By: tokin librul http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269836 tokin librul Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:04:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269836 <i># hussein toasterhead Says: Well, looks like our plans for bringing American-style democracy to Iraq are going just swimmingly! All we need to do now is teach them voter caging and swift-boating and they’ll be all set! October 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm </i> When you've got 'ethnic cleansing' at the barrel of a gun, voter caging probably seems pretty lame. As for swift-boating, the militias pretty much just kill folks they wanna prevent from running. # hussein toasterhead Says:
Well, looks like our plans for bringing American-style democracy to Iraq are going just swimmingly!
All we need to do now is teach them voter caging and swift-boating and they’ll be all set!
October 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

When you’ve got ‘ethnic cleansing’ at the barrel of a gun, voter caging probably seems pretty lame. As for swift-boating, the militias pretty much just kill folks they wanna prevent from running.

]]> By: An Outhouse http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269832 An Outhouse Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:01:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269832 This is stupid. Women don't make up 25% of elected offices even in the U.S. do they? This is stupid. Women don’t make up 25% of elected offices even in the U.S. do they?

]]> By: tokin librul http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269830 tokin librul Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:01:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269830 This will result in getting a lot of very brave women killed or injured.humiliated by (mainly Shi'a) religious enforcers, and convincing a lot of other women to abandon any such hopes because of the treatment they'll see meted out to the brave ones... I'd feel a lot more confident in USer efforts to spread "democracy" around the world if we were more tolerant and supportive of it here. When I read of the efforts of the "parties" (really, merely competing wings of the same Party of Property; both do it) to disenfranchise people whom they believe hostile--or even not enthusiastic enough--to themselves, I have a hard time taking international initiatives for 'democracy' seriously. But then I have grown entirely cynical about the MAJORITY of claims made by the inevitably exceptionalist apologists for the Murkin Dream... This will result in getting a lot of very brave women killed or injured.humiliated by (mainly Shi’a) religious enforcers, and convincing a lot of other women to abandon any such hopes because of the treatment they’ll see meted out to the brave ones…

I’d feel a lot more confident in USer efforts to spread “democracy” around the world if we were more tolerant and supportive of it here. When I read of the efforts of the “parties” (really, merely competing wings of the same Party of Property; both do it) to disenfranchise people whom they believe hostile–or even not enthusiastic enough–to themselves, I have a hard time taking international initiatives for ‘democracy’ seriously.

But then I have grown entirely cynical about the MAJORITY of claims made by the inevitably exceptionalist apologists for the Murkin Dream…

]]> By: misshusseinmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269824 misshusseinmolly Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:58:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269824 If the problem weren't so serious, I would recommend another Tina Fey sketch -- one portraying Palin giving a motivational speech to Iraqi women about putting "country first" and being a "maverick". If the problem weren’t so serious, I would recommend another Tina Fey sketch — one portraying Palin giving a motivational speech to Iraqi women about putting “country first” and being a “maverick”.

]]> By: misshusseinmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269818 misshusseinmolly Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:55:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269818 ...but...but...but I thought the "surge" made everything so much better over there, didn't it? Isn't it safe now? Why are these women so afraid? Haven't we succeeded in making Iraq just like us? …but…but…but I thought the “surge” made everything so much better over there, didn’t it? Isn’t it safe now? Why are these women so afraid? Haven’t we succeeded in making Iraq just like us?

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5269816 Leftside Annie Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:55:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/iraq-women/#comment-5269816 Oy. "Mission accomplished." ~ Chimpy Oy.

“Mission accomplished.” ~ Chimpy

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