This morning on CBS’s Early Show, McCain-Palin campaign spokesperson Nancy Pfotenhauer attempted to defend Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AK) debunked claims that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has been “palling around” with former radical William Ayers. Referencing a recent New York Times article, Pfotenhauer claimed that if McCain “hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics” it would be a legitimate topic of discussion. She explained:
PFOTENHAUER: The article also concluded is that if Senator McCain had hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics, no one would consider [raising the issue] illegitimate.
Watch it:
Pfotenhauer’s invocation of abortion clinic bombers in defense of McCain is ironic given that McCain has repeatedly voted against protecting Americans from domestic terrorists in the anti-choice movement. On multiple occasions throughout his career, McCain sought to limit the government’s ability to punish violent anti-choice fanatics by:
– Voting against making anti-choice violence a federal crime. As the Jed Report notes, McCain voted in 1993 and 1994 against making “bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics, and shootings and threats of violence against doctors and nurses who perform abortions” federal crimes.
– Opposing Colorado’s “Bubble Law.” McCain said he opposed Colorado’s “Bubble Law,” which prohibited abortion protesters from getting within 8 feet of women entering clinics [Denver Post, 2/27/00]. The law was later upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
– Voting to allow those fined for violence at clinics to avoid penalties by declaring bankruptcy. NARAL Pro-Chioce America notes that McCain “voted to allow perpetrators of violence or harassment at reproductive-health clinics to avoid paying the fines assessed against them for their illegal acts by declaring bankruptcy.”

Well, there’s ‘hanging around with’ terrorists, and then there is tacitly supporting their activities.
Obviously, having an association with a terrorist is far more damning then allowing them to operate with virtual impunity.
snark off
October 6th, 2008 at 2:45 pmThe disinterment of the William Ayres story is clear evidence of how bankrupt of ideas the McSame campaign finds itself.
Is this really the best shot they got?
Americans might be stupid sometimes, but they’re not right-wing stupid.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:47 pmWell, my friends, these aren’t terrists.
They’re god feerin Kristchuns whose love of country spurs them to take corrective action against baby killers.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:49 pmHow can you fight the terrorists over there when you refuse to fight them here?
October 6th, 2008 at 2:51 pmRUCerious Says:
Well, my friends, these aren’t terrists.
They’re god feerin Kristchuns whose love of country spurs them to take corrective action against baby killers.
You betcha!
October 6th, 2008 at 2:55 pmSuddenly, Carly Fiorina magically appears in a golden parachute to dispel any rumors SHE was a domestic terrorist.
Folks, Obama was about 4 when Bill Ayres was a 60’s radical…how old was McCain during the McKeating 5 scandal?…
over 50.
Who probably, at that age, had a better understanding of right & wrong?
Barak Obama
October 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pmDamaging admission by Baroness Pfotenhauer. At this point the Palin/McCain ticket’s support appears to rest mainly with those who approve of abortion clinic bombing.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:58 pmWhen you see all of the common sense things that McCain voted against, it makes you feel better to know that in a few short weeks America will be voting against him.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pmRUC, you sounded so much like Daryll there.
You’re scarin’ me.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pmIt’s not terrorism, because apparently being pro-life means you have to KILL to stop abortion…/snark
October 6th, 2008 at 3:05 pmralph, since Darlyy’s been AWOL here for a while, I thought I’d snark up the snarkerator for him.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:11 pmRUCerious Says:
ralph, since Darlyy’s been AWOL here for a while, I thought I’d snark up the snarkerator for him.
Perhaps he’s been called to his Final Reward: full-blown psychosis.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:17 pmAt this point, I think ThinkProgress is spending way too much time attacking McCain. Oblivious to the fact that the economy is crashing.
The evil scum of the earth George W Bush right now is desperately itching for a chance to declare martial law!
WAKE UP!
October 6th, 2008 at 3:21 pmFolks, for the last time, IOKIYAR.
Amanda, while I applaud your moniker’s humor and agree with you that America is pretty much F–ked economically, and yes I also heard about Sherman and the lawmakers who were pretty much threatend with martial law if the bailout were not passed, I would hardly say that TP is “Oblivious” to any of these facts. There have been plenty of stories here about the current crisis. “Attacking” McCain (i.e. pointing out his lies and those of his surrogates) is also important.
Thank-you, that is all.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pmThank you for calling these people what they are: terrorists.
Free speech is one thing, but allowing people to harass women on their way in or out of a health clinic is absurd. How would these people feel if their right to attend the church of their choice were challenged? How would they react to angry cries and shouts at them for exercising their civil rights?
Anti-abortion protesters who hound and harass women are TERRORISTS. Anti-abortion MURDERERS who target and kill doctors are TERRORISTS. Randall Terry and “Operation Rescue” are TERRORISTS.
Keep that up. Right now most Americans believe that all terrorists are Muslims. Far from the truth! Those who sicced dogs and used firehoses on civil rights protesters during the 1960’s were terrorists. The KKK is a terrorist organization. The lynchers and others who went along with them were and are TERRORISTS. America has had more than its fair share of them, to be sure.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:24 pmJohn McCain is such a Maverick that he considers those who bomb clinics and shoot doctors to be centrists.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:24 pmThis issue of Ayers is not as scarry as the Republicans contenting all of these new registered Democrats, these Reich wing idelogues will stop at nothing.The senate needs to stand up to this Bull$hit from the McPalin camp,stand up America and fight the smears against Obama.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pmNah, he just recognizes that his base is made up of people who listen to Ann Coulter, O’Reilly, Hannity, Savage and the like and think that domestic terrorism is PERFECTLY acceptable as long as it is only perpetrated against Liberals, Democrats, and people who disagree with them because we clearly deserve it, we’re unAmerican.
Except for that whole Tim McVeigh thing…but we don’t talk about that.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:26 pmQuick Quiz: What famous family was partner of Bush Jr in the failed oil company Arbusto Inc, and was flown off the country the day 9/12?
October 6th, 2008 at 3:27 pmHey, Amanda @ #16: It is not “attacking” McCain to point out his many lies, obfuscations and spinning of reality. It is a little something called JOURNALISM. Once upon a time, asking a serious question of a presidential or vice-presidential candidate would not have been out of bounds.
If anything, the corporate media has gone out of its way to be friendly to McCain and especially to Palin. Do you think that a Democrat would have received the deference and compassion that the McCain campaign has demanded for Palin? Give me a break.
“Liberal media”, my ass.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:28 pmOOh OOH, I know this one! I know this one!
It’s the Obama Family right? Cause I heard from this email that Uncle Joe-Bob sent to me that that Obama is really an A-Rab Muz-Lem in Disguise.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pmSo, how are these fanatical Christian abortion clinic bombers different than the fanatical Muslim bombers…?
October 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pmEvil Spaniard @ #22…. Why that would be the BIN LADEN family! Long time buds and business partners of the Bush family.
Here’s another one for ya:
Which US father & son presidential dynasty had a father/grandfather who sympathized with, laundered money for and sold guns to Hitler and Nazi Germany?
Answer: George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush!!
October 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pmHere’s another one for ya:
Which US father & son presidential dynasty had a father/grandfather who sympathized with, laundered money for and sold guns to Hitler and Nazi Germany?
Answer: George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush!!
This guy?
http://www.basehead.org/ files/ shots/ 1-mccain_bush_hug.jpg
October 6th, 2008 at 3:35 pmOh, no, TP, say it ain’t so — there you go again, pointing the finger backwards to all the things John McSame did in the past that, doggone it, appeared to be appeasing domestic terrorists. But that wasn’t it at all — instead, while the rest of the country was trying to prevent domestic terrorism, John McCain was being his mavericky self by protecting domestic terrorists.
You betcha.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:36 pmBut thinking of it, second degree association is mean, what about first degree?
October 6th, 2008 at 3:40 pmYeah, looks as if Republicans hate terrorist ties.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:41 pmBecause they’re doing God’s work, Annie. God’s work.
At least that’s what their Reader’s Digest abridged Bible tells them.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pmI am not real good at it so can someone who is please summon bitblt? This is sort of a “wedge issue” for them.
October 6th, 2008 at 3:47 pmOT
Sarah Palin has now attacked Barack Obama over his association with Reverend Wright — even though John McCain himself explicitly said this spring that Wright was off limits…
Palin made her comments about Wright in a new interview with columnist Bill Kristol, after he asked her whether Wright was a legit issue.
So, that means Rev. Muthee, the witchhunter, is fair also, right? Where are you, msm?
October 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pmmaybe someone should ask the north slope trollop about her association with the alaskan independence party. afterall, she videotaped a nice warm welcome for their 2008 convention now availible on youtube
October 6th, 2008 at 3:51 pmHOW ABOUT:
Who was the only sailor transferred/airlifted off the USS Forrestal after the disastrous explosion and fire in 1967?
Hint: was the son and grandson of Admiral’s with the last name Mc somethingorother.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:04 pmF. Von Schiller stated it quite well, “Against stupidity, the Gods themselves struggle in vain”. The descent of McWorse from stupidity to ever greater stupidity is truly pathetic to behold. However wait till the end of the week. I’m hugely depressed because I Know that McWorse/Pain will top themselves, yet again.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pmImpeach Pelosi, Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
“They’re god feerin Kristchuns whose love of country spurs them to take corrective action against baby killers.”
Good one…
We could argue the same for Ayers. After all he was protesting the Vietnam war and 53K civillians were killed during Operation Rolling Thunder alone (the operation during which McCain was shot down and captured). Who needs guilt by association, we have real guilt… McCain is in fact himself a baby killer!
October 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pmRUCerious,
Better late than never I guess for my response to the Obsession thread, I had to attend to the funeral of my 401k. Maybe Bro Daryll realized somewhere along the line that the supposed “job” he has is worth too much to risk spending company time disseminating hate.
Or maybe somewhere there’s another bunk bed with a corpse in tennis shoes.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pmLet’s hope that Daryll is still amongst the breathing. You may not be aware but he does some fine work messing with that dipshit TPW place…
October 6th, 2008 at 4:21 pm#RUCerious Says:
HOW ABOUT:
Who was the only sailor transferred/airlifted off the USS Forrestal after the disastrous explosion and fire in 1967?
Hint: was the son and grandson of Admiral’s with the last name Mc somethingorother.
And he left while all of his fellow airmen were putting out the fire, pushing planes off the ship to keep more bombs from going off and administering to the wounded and taking care of the dead. Apparently McCain watched all of it in a safe place and then left the scene with a reporter who became a life-long McCain shill. While his buddies were mopping up after the worst naval disaster in history, McCain was at his buddy’s villa.
Everyone really does need to read the Rolling Stone article. It’s a real eye opener. I learned some things I didn’t know and I thought I knew pretty much everything about McCain.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pmTo RUCerious at 35 did you read this?
http://www.rollingstone.com/ news/ coverstory/ make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
October 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins,
I am an Arizona native and thought I knew Johhny pretty well too, but I sure learned some new things in that article. Mean, petty little bastard, just like the dickweed he wants to follow.
October 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pmEgoiste! Terroriste!
October 6th, 2008 at 4:51 pmI think it’s becoming clear that Bible Spice is going to handle the really disgusting slime while Flippy McSpin tries to claim the moral high ground. I bet she doesn’t face a single additional question from a “real journalist”.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/ politicalradar/ 2008/ 10/ palin-plays-fea.html
October 6th, 2008 at 4:57 pmMan, do McCain campaign operatives get lying bonuses?
October 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pmSee what I mean? I think it’s becoming more clear that Bible Spice was selected because she will say ANYTHING they tell her.
http://hosted.ap.org/ dynamic/ stories/ P/ PALIN?SITE=IACED&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
October 6th, 2008 at 5:22 pmclusterphuck-FLAGGED FOR SPAMMING!
October 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pmThe McCain campaign calls Obama a terrorist but when the Keating Five case blows back in McCain’s face he starts singing the blues. IOW — He can dish it out (slinging slime from behind Sarah Palin) but he can’t take it. A great Chief he’d make…
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October 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWhat do you think Ayres was protesting? What was he aiming to stop with his terrorism? The bombing of Vietnam. The killing of innocent civilians including babies. How many millions were killed? raped? maimed?
October 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pmDid Obama protect him? No. When was Obama in touch with him? 20 years after this activity at least. Where’s the connect? Which is worse?
Oh, that’s right, McCain is better than Obama because he was fighting a just war… hey wait, McCain was killing them too… yeah, that’s right.
Let’s see, how many people has Obama killed?
G. Gordon Liddy: John McCain Finds His Own Radical
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 05/ 05/ g-gordon-liddy-john-mccai_n_100134.html
Liddy, advising Branch Davidians how to defend themselves from ATF agents during a radio show:
“If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they’re wearing flak jackets and you’re better off shooting for the head.”
Liddy, on the impact Adolf Hitler had on him as a child:
When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it “made me feel a strength inside I had never known before,” he explains. “Hitler’s sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body.”
oh wait, im sorry, if your right wing, advising people on how to kill federal agents, and admiring hitler, are just part of the resume..
October 6th, 2008 at 6:37 pmMost young people have no idea who Gordon Liddy is and what a truly vile and bizarre character he is. Most young people aren’t going to vote for McCain anyway, but it would be nice to see a synopsis of McCain associations in video—spreading like a virus til it hits the msm. No one could expose Liddy for lunacy better than he himself.
Don’t want to see the alternative press be blinded by the “outsider” mantra (or hypnotic suggestion). McCain has been INSIDE for a long time and surely has far more associations than Obama could rack up in his years (even if he had gotten radical at the age of eight (which is highly unlikely)).
October 7th, 2008 at 2:22 amGive me a break-when is the last time you heard of an abortion clinic being bombed! Never mind, most of these people bomb buildings and abortionists kill people! Never mind, most so called bombers actually make sure no one is in the building as not to destroy life, a building can be rebuilt-a human life can’t. I don’t condone bombing buildigs-of course Obama’s buddy does and he killed 7 people! But let’s not worry about that-after all he is only going to run the country. 60 percent of Blacks have been assassinated by abortion upwards of 17 million Blacks! But do you care about that? 7 people have been killed by “pro-lifers” but 50 million have been killed by pro-choicers. Who do you think is more deadly?
November 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm