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	<title>Comments on: McCain Proposes A Progressive Housing Policy, But Still Wants To Reward Bankers Who Made Bad Loans</title>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274822</link>
		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

That&#039;s like saying, &lt;em&gt;&quot;I&#039;ll make robing a bank more difficult but if you can rob a bank, keep the money. You deserve it for your hard work.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

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<p>That&#8217;s like saying, <em>&#8220;I&#8217;ll make robing a bank more difficult but if you can rob a bank, keep the money. You deserve it for your hard work.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dae</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274544</link>
		<dc:creator>dae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This plan of McLame&#039;s is nothing new. A very similar proposal has been floated by Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. McLame&#039;s backing of this plan which is simply as stated in the article a reworking of new deal policies is a desperate ploy on his part to curry favor with homeowners. It goes counter to all he stands for and I&#039;m sure would never be put on the table if he and Gramm get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This plan of McLame&#8217;s is nothing new. A very similar proposal has been floated by Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. McLame&#8217;s backing of this plan which is simply as stated in the article a reworking of new deal policies is a desperate ploy on his part to curry favor with homeowners. It goes counter to all he stands for and I&#8217;m sure would never be put on the table if he and Gramm get elected.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274544', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IBTunion4obama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274402</link>
		<dc:creator>IBTunion4obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is stupid. The new bailout bill that was passed states that the feds can renegotiate homes at their new value. He obviously hasn&#039;t done his research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is stupid. The new bailout bill that was passed states that the feds can renegotiate homes at their new value. He obviously hasn&#8217;t done his research.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274402', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: impeachcheneythenbush</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274334</link>
		<dc:creator>impeachcheneythenbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, even better good news for the crooks of industry.  

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Reserve has agreed to provide the insurance giant, the American International Group, with a loan of up to $37.8 billion, on top of one made to the troubled company last month.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09insure.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, even better good news for the crooks of industry.  </p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Reserve has agreed to provide the insurance giant, the American International Group, with a loan of up to $37.8 billion, on top of one made to the troubled company last month.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09insure.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09insure.html?hp</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274334', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: impeachcheneythenbush</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274320</link>
		<dc:creator>impeachcheneythenbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Paulson already has the flexibility to do this in the bill that passed.  Within the $700B.  This is additional money.  Couple of things: where is McCain going to find this money?  And how does he directly order the Sec. of the Treas. to spend money that has not been approved and appropriated by Congress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Paulson already has the flexibility to do this in the bill that passed.  Within the $700B.  This is additional money.  Couple of things: where is McCain going to find this money?  And how does he directly order the Sec. of the Treas. to spend money that has not been approved and appropriated by Congress?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274316</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The following conservatives are up in arms about McCain&#039;s &quot;populism run amok&quot;: Michelle Malkin, Linda Chavez, Mark Steyn, Amanda Carpenter, Stephen Spuiell, Jonathan Garthwaite, and Brian Sullivan.&lt;/em&gt;

Since they and their Free Market boosterism are in part responsible for the current mess, they really have no cause for upset.

They don&#039;t yet realize how marginalized they are about to become, the poor babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The following conservatives are up in arms about McCain&#8217;s &#8220;populism run amok&#8221;: Michelle Malkin, Linda Chavez, Mark Steyn, Amanda Carpenter, Stephen Spuiell, Jonathan Garthwaite, and Brian Sullivan.</em></p>
<p>Since they and their Free Market boosterism are in part responsible for the current mess, they really have no cause for upset.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t yet realize how marginalized they are about to become, the poor babies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274316', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economist, Noriel Roubini, who predicted this crisis in 2004, has dire words today -- he thinks this is a recession that will last into 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economist, Noriel Roubini, who predicted this crisis in 2004, has dire words today &#8212; he thinks this is a recession that will last into 2010.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274312', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/08/mccain-progressive-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-5274298</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m suddenly a McCain supporter.

I&#039;ll quit paying my mortgage this month, so I can qualify for this nifty-sounding program, after the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m suddenly a McCain supporter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quit paying my mortgage this month, so I can qualify for this nifty-sounding program, after the election.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274298', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the ultimate expression of moral hazard.  The companies with the expertise and responsibility to their depositors and shareholders will receive full reimbursement.  Just think what they have learned:

1.  Outrageous CEO and senior executive compensation will not be stopped no matter how it creates extremely short term thinking and a divergence of executive interests versus those of long term investors.

2.  Insane bonus schemes are perfectly fine.  The more money the merrier no matter how this may increase risk taking on the part of executives.

3.  Shareholders need not worry about supervising their investments.  If the market truly goes under and their shares are becoming worthless, the government will step in and rescue them.  Indeed, paying full purchase price of the failed mortgages actually values the reckless mortgage decisions above those of prudent investors by making them fully insured.

4.  If you are average Joe, it is time to grab a crow bar or other weapons and start a holy uprising.  It is the only way that you will ever see justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the ultimate expression of moral hazard.  The companies with the expertise and responsibility to their depositors and shareholders will receive full reimbursement.  Just think what they have learned:</p>
<p>1.  Outrageous CEO and senior executive compensation will not be stopped no matter how it creates extremely short term thinking and a divergence of executive interests versus those of long term investors.</p>
<p>2.  Insane bonus schemes are perfectly fine.  The more money the merrier no matter how this may increase risk taking on the part of executives.</p>
<p>3.  Shareholders need not worry about supervising their investments.  If the market truly goes under and their shares are becoming worthless, the government will step in and rescue them.  Indeed, paying full purchase price of the failed mortgages actually values the reckless mortgage decisions above those of prudent investors by making them fully insured.</p>
<p>4.  If you are average Joe, it is time to grab a crow bar or other weapons and start a holy uprising.  It is the only way that you will ever see justice.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DidHeJustSayThat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DidHeJustSayThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point is getting that additional $100 bil to the banks.  Just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point is getting that additional $100 bil to the banks.  Just saying.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274284', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: McWars</title>
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		<dc:creator>McWars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t be so fast to give credit because this is an attempt to save face by plucking specifics from Obama&#039;s plan. First, it was &quot;Change&quot;, which never had a chance of taking off after Obama clarified the meaning of change between the two camps. 

McCain could be trying to get at those easily impressionable independents in trying to equalize himself with Obama to sway their thinking. &quot;There&#039;s not much difference between the two, so I&#039;ll vote for the white guy and keep tradition alive.&quot;

Won&#039;t work, but that&#039;s what McCain&#039;s handlers are telling him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t be so fast to give credit because this is an attempt to save face by plucking specifics from Obama&#8217;s plan. First, it was &#8220;Change&#8221;, which never had a chance of taking off after Obama clarified the meaning of change between the two camps. </p>
<p>McCain could be trying to get at those easily impressionable independents in trying to equalize himself with Obama to sway their thinking. &#8220;There&#8217;s not much difference between the two, so I&#8217;ll vote for the white guy and keep tradition alive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t work, but that&#8217;s what McCain&#8217;s handlers are telling him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, it&#039;s a great plan, but he&#039;d put the foxes in charge of negotiating with the chickens, always has, always will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, it&#8217;s a great plan, but he&#8217;d put the foxes in charge of negotiating with the chickens, always has, always will.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain: &quot;Roll out the milking machine, I hope to get control of the cash cow (i.e., &lt;em&gt;the middle class taxpayers&lt;/em&gt;).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain: &#8220;Roll out the milking machine, I hope to get control of the cash cow (i.e., <em>the middle class taxpayers</em>).&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274270', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>misshusseinmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud McCain for at least recognizing that something needs to be done -- even though I&#039;m sure this latest proposal came from his handlers, not him.

There appears to be plenty of blame to go around here -- banks and mortgage companies made risky loans (often suckering people into borrowing more than they could afford to), and borrowers went for bigger mortgages than they could handle without knowing all the risks (or perhaps not caring).

It&#039;s only fair then that each party be required to take some of the hit.  Including the lenders.

And then we need some safeguards put into the system to prevent this kind of disaster from happening again.  People should be able to understand mortgages when they enter that world -- and not get all their education on the subject from the party that&#039;s trying to lend them money.  Banks should assume the risk when they make risky loans.  And bankruptcy courts should be allowed to restructure mortgage debt just as they restructure other debt in bankruptcy cases.

These ideas aren&#039;t mine.  They&#039;re on Obama&#039;s website:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership

And they&#039;re simple common sense.  I would imagine Obama isn&#039;t the only one who has come up with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud McCain for at least recognizing that something needs to be done &#8212; even though I&#8217;m sure this latest proposal came from his handlers, not him.</p>
<p>There appears to be plenty of blame to go around here &#8212; banks and mortgage companies made risky loans (often suckering people into borrowing more than they could afford to), and borrowers went for bigger mortgages than they could handle without knowing all the risks (or perhaps not caring).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only fair then that each party be required to take some of the hit.  Including the lenders.</p>
<p>And then we need some safeguards put into the system to prevent this kind of disaster from happening again.  People should be able to understand mortgages when they enter that world &#8212; and not get all their education on the subject from the party that&#8217;s trying to lend them money.  Banks should assume the risk when they make risky loans.  And bankruptcy courts should be allowed to restructure mortgage debt just as they restructure other debt in bankruptcy cases.</p>
<p>These ideas aren&#8217;t mine.  They&#8217;re on Obama&#8217;s website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership</a></p>
<p>And they&#8217;re simple common sense.  I would imagine Obama isn&#8217;t the only one who has come up with them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274254', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa FTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa FTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where will the money come from, if not Joe Q. Public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where will the money come from, if not Joe Q. Public?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5274250', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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