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		<title>By: wiley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5276536</link>
		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my lifetime, I would like to see it be common knowledge that our incessant bombing is inherently destabilizing and the results will never be any different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my lifetime, I would like to see it be common knowledge that our incessant bombing is inherently destabilizing and the results will never be any different.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5276536', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5276292</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregor - touche&#039;.  I just can&#039;t make my mouth move to those lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregor &#8211; touche&#8217;.  I just can&#8217;t make my mouth move to those lies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5276292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5276276</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying this for months..You heard it from me first...Betrayus thinks we should bribe the taliban also, which is the logical equivlanent of what we&#039;re doing in iraq. Yeah, when you&#039;re paying everyone from low level thugs to the high level command and control of your enemy, you arent going to have very enemies left....paying our soldiers killers to stop shooting at them is Betrayus&#039;s method of operation, and somehow this makes him an amazing military leader...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying this for months..You heard it from me first&#8230;Betrayus thinks we should bribe the taliban also, which is the logical equivlanent of what we&#8217;re doing in iraq. Yeah, when you&#8217;re paying everyone from low level thugs to the high level command and control of your enemy, you arent going to have very enemies left&#8230;.paying our soldiers killers to stop shooting at them is Betrayus&#8217;s method of operation, and somehow this makes him an amazing military leader&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5276276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275824</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MapleStreet Says: &lt;i&gt;So why didn’t Congress go with partial ownership of the banks as was floated as a Stock Injection Plan?&lt;/i&gt;

Because that would cut into the cronies&#039; bottom line. 

And remember, it&#039;s welfare for the poor, and &quot;incentive package&quot;, and &quot;tax breaks&quot; for the cronies.

C&#039;mon... get with the program... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MapleStreet Says: <i>So why didn’t Congress go with partial ownership of the banks as was floated as a Stock Injection Plan?</i></p>
<p>Because that would cut into the cronies&#8217; bottom line. </p>
<p>And remember, it&#8217;s welfare for the poor, and &#8220;incentive package&#8221;, and &#8220;tax breaks&#8221; for the cronies.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon&#8230; get with the program&#8230; ;-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275824', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275754</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregor,  I remember Bush saying he was going to shrink govt and all he did was move it around to make his pet agencies huge (and didn&#039;t Reagan do the same ?)

To me, the interesting thing is that we are giving the companies money without taking ownership.  Repubs are always saying they want govt to work like a business.  

Well no business is just gonna give another business money for the fun of it.  Instead, a business will give another money but in return get a certain percentage ownership of the business (stock, so to speak).  Then if the recipient repays the money, they get their stock back.

So why didn&#039;t Congress go with partial ownership of the banks as was floated as a Stock Injection Plan (which appeared one day and disappeared the next) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregor,  I remember Bush saying he was going to shrink govt and all he did was move it around to make his pet agencies huge (and didn&#8217;t Reagan do the same ?)</p>
<p>To me, the interesting thing is that we are giving the companies money without taking ownership.  Repubs are always saying they want govt to work like a business.  </p>
<p>Well no business is just gonna give another business money for the fun of it.  Instead, a business will give another money but in return get a certain percentage ownership of the business (stock, so to speak).  Then if the recipient repays the money, they get their stock back.</p>
<p>So why didn&#8217;t Congress go with partial ownership of the banks as was floated as a Stock Injection Plan (which appeared one day and disappeared the next) ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275754', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275558</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in one final ironic twist, the Bush administration is considering going big government liberal -maybe even commie:

&lt;i&gt;The Bush administration is considering taking ownership stakes in certain U.S. banks as an option for dealing with a severe global credit crisis.
An administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because no decision has been made, said the $700 billion rescue package passed by Congress last week allows the Treasury Department to inject fresh capital into financial institutions and get ownership shares in return.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQC8hiYQJGPIlP-U7tAZ_9p2Oe2gD93MS0L00&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White House considers ownership stakes in banks&lt;/a&gt;

I guess being a commie-pinko, big government advocate, regulation-hungry liberal is a bad thing -unless your cronies need taxpayers&#039; money to bail them out of their own inep decisions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in one final ironic twist, the Bush administration is considering going big government liberal -maybe even commie:</p>
<p><i>The Bush administration is considering taking ownership stakes in certain U.S. banks as an option for dealing with a severe global credit crisis.<br />
An administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because no decision has been made, said the $700 billion rescue package passed by Congress last week allows the Treasury Department to inject fresh capital into financial institutions and get ownership shares in return.</i><br />
<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQC8hiYQJGPIlP-U7tAZ_9p2Oe2gD93MS0L00" rel="nofollow">White House considers ownership stakes in banks</a></p>
<p>I guess being a commie-pinko, big government advocate, regulation-hungry liberal is a bad thing -unless your cronies need taxpayers&#8217; money to bail them out of their own inep decisions<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275314</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan Stanley is dog food as the big money boys continue &lt;em&gt;not lending to each other&lt;/em&gt;.  

What upset Hank and company on September 18th, just went into hyperdrive.  Take a look at the cost to &quot;insure&quot; Morgan Stanley debt.  It&#039;s in the stratosphere as of today.

9-10 $300,000
9-15 $450,000
&lt;strong&gt;9-18 $900,000&lt;/strong&gt;
9-19 $560,000
9-22 $498,000
9-24 $790,000
&lt;strong&gt;10-2 $975,000 
10-7 $1,800,000
10-9 $2,500,000&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan Stanley is dog food as the big money boys continue <em>not lending to each other</em>.  </p>
<p>What upset Hank and company on September 18th, just went into hyperdrive.  Take a look at the cost to &#8220;insure&#8221; Morgan Stanley debt.  It&#8217;s in the stratosphere as of today.</p>
<p>9-10 $300,000<br />
9-15 $450,000<br />
<strong>9-18 $900,000</strong><br />
9-19 $560,000<br />
9-22 $498,000<br />
9-24 $790,000<br />
<strong>10-2 $975,000<br />
10-7 $1,800,000<br />
10-9 $2,500,000</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275314', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275276</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very angry over the despicable behavior of McCain/Palin. I&#039;m sick to my stomach with rage, that these evil barstids would tacitly encourage and cheerlead such awful racist lynch mob behavior. I&#039;m just sick at heart over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very angry over the despicable behavior of McCain/Palin. I&#8217;m sick to my stomach with rage, that these evil barstids would tacitly encourage and cheerlead such awful racist lynch mob behavior. I&#8217;m just sick at heart over this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275268</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lone Voice @#25
When you are challenged, you ask the precinct poll worker for a provisional ballot. They are supposed to give you one.
Then, in most states, the next day after the election, you go to the appropriate county office (Auditor in Snohomish, WA) and prove your residency and eligibility, then they are required to count your ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lone Voice @#25<br />
When you are challenged, you ask the precinct poll worker for a provisional ballot. They are supposed to give you one.<br />
Then, in most states, the next day after the election, you go to the appropriate county office (Auditor in Snohomish, WA) and prove your residency and eligibility, then they are required to count your ballot.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275268', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275232</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Witch1 Says: Interesting and disgusting fact’s….Before the bail out vote AIG was found to have 28 BILLION in off shore account’s….Why did they need to be bailed out.?.Why should all these slim bag’s be allowed to have a party on us.?..&lt;/em&gt;

Bush throwing a final perty for his greedy pig friends?

I read last night that AIG has asked for even more money.

Yeah, like the initial bailout that let them spend half a million on massages and booze really helped the economy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Witch1 Says: Interesting and disgusting fact’s….Before the bail out vote AIG was found to have 28 BILLION in off shore account’s….Why did they need to be bailed out.?.Why should all these slim bag’s be allowed to have a party on us.?..</em></p>
<p>Bush throwing a final perty for his greedy pig friends?</p>
<p>I read last night that AIG has asked for even more money.</p>
<p>Yeah, like the initial bailout that let them spend half a million on massages and booze really helped the economy&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;jpmdevildog Says: “Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world.”&lt;/em&gt;

When a grown man or woman says something so delusionally childish, he or she should seek &lt;em&gt;immediate &lt;/em&gt;medical attention.

God luck with your brain injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>jpmdevildog Says: “Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world.”</em></p>
<p>When a grown man or woman says something so delusionally childish, he or she should seek <em>immediate </em>medical attention.</p>
<p>God luck with your brain injury.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275230', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Ho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275226</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TROS, Fred;  I flag clusterphuck every time I see one of his bs posts.  I just flagged this asswhole a minute ago and asked TP to ban the shit-for-brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TROS, Fred;  I flag clusterphuck every time I see one of his bs posts.  I just flagged this asswhole a minute ago and asked TP to ban the shit-for-brains.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275226', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jpmdevildog Says: 

Since you have absolutley nothing to say.
flagged</description>
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<p>Since you have absolutley nothing to say.<br />
flagged<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275214', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upnorth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275212</link>
		<dc:creator>upnorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I forgot to ask why Nancy Pelosi(Democrat-CA) is actually offering up an old REPUBLICAN-BUSH policy that did not work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I forgot to ask why Nancy Pelosi(Democrat-CA) is actually offering up an old REPUBLICAN-BUSH policy that did not work?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275212', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Witch1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/thinkfast-october-9-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-5275204</link>
		<dc:creator>Witch1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and disgusting fact&#039;s....Before the bail out vote AIG was found to have 28 BILLION in off shore account&#039;s....Why did they need to be bailed out.?.Why should all these slim bag&#039;s be allowed to have a party on us.?..

Well it&#039;s Thurday, just another day in Paradise....

Great post&#039;s all.....P.B.&amp; J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and disgusting fact&#8217;s&#8230;.Before the bail out vote AIG was found to have 28 BILLION in off shore account&#8217;s&#8230;.Why did they need to be bailed out.?.Why should all these slim bag&#8217;s be allowed to have a party on us.?..</p>
<p>Well it&#8217;s Thurday, just another day in Paradise&#8230;.</p>
<p>Great post&#8217;s all&#8230;..P.B.&amp; J<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upnorth</title>
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		<dc:creator>upnorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) yesterday recommended a new $150 billion economic stimulus plan...&quot; It didn&#039;t work the first time what makes you think it will now?

“Negotiations with some members of the Taliban could provide a way to reduce violence...Gen. David Petreaus said yesterday&quot;

Hmmm wonder how John McCain feels about his hero David today! Talk about appeasement! I also wonder what exactly is wrong  with talking and finding diplomatic solutions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) yesterday recommended a new $150 billion economic stimulus plan&#8230;&#8221; It didn&#8217;t work the first time what makes you think it will now?</p>
<p>“Negotiations with some members of the Taliban could provide a way to reduce violence&#8230;Gen. David Petreaus said yesterday&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm wonder how John McCain feels about his hero David today! Talk about appeasement! I also wonder what exactly is wrong  with talking and finding diplomatic solutions!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275202', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: livelongandprosper</title>
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		<dc:creator>livelongandprosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;5th Estate Says:

livelongandprosper: What happens to those spas when the ‘junkets’ are cut out? Just pointing out how severe this crisis is and no, I have no solution.

Fair enough, which then begs the question of the value of work and the ratio of service industries to production industries in the US economy.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes 5th, the value of work is a very good question.  Whose work can be worth 50 million a year?  What sort of service industries are people who make &gt; 1 million supporting?  What sort of service industries are people who make &lt; $50,000 supporting?

You can even break down the service industry into local and distant categories.  Local being your restaurant down the street that is suffering because the locals (read - middle class) can&#039;t go out anymore.  Distant being the Spa Resort that is suffering because corporations (read - upper class)  can&#039;t send people there anymore.

How about the source of wealth of America.  It used to be built on making stuff, but America isn&#039;t a nation of makers  like it was.  More and more the wealth has come from banking and making &quot;vehicles&quot; for making banking richer and richer.  Now that has come tumbling down.

Anyway, it&#039;s a mess.  My economic knowledge is next to nothing and I hope that the next administration has the insight to look forward and correct this mess.</description>
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<p>livelongandprosper: What happens to those spas when the ‘junkets’ are cut out? Just pointing out how severe this crisis is and no, I have no solution.</p>
<p>Fair enough, which then begs the question of the value of work and the ratio of service industries to production industries in the US economy.</em></p>
<p>Yes 5th, the value of work is a very good question.  Whose work can be worth 50 million a year?  What sort of service industries are people who make &gt; 1 million supporting?  What sort of service industries are people who make &lt; $50,000 supporting?</p>
<p>You can even break down the service industry into local and distant categories.  Local being your restaurant down the street that is suffering because the locals (read &#8211; middle class) can&#8217;t go out anymore.  Distant being the Spa Resort that is suffering because corporations (read &#8211; upper class)  can&#8217;t send people there anymore.</p>
<p>How about the source of wealth of America.  It used to be built on making stuff, but America isn&#8217;t a nation of makers  like it was.  More and more the wealth has come from banking and making &#8220;vehicles&#8221; for making banking richer and richer.  Now that has come tumbling down.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a mess.  My economic knowledge is next to nothing and I hope that the next administration has the insight to look forward and correct this mess.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275196', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jpmdevildog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At a shocking press conference this morning, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama announced that he has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/obatma/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;half-man half-bat half-brother: Obatma&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At a shocking press conference this morning, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama announced that he has a <a href="http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/obatma/" rel="nofollow">half-man half-bat half-brother: Obatma</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275180', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) yesterday recommended a new $150 billion economic stimulus plan and said “she may call the House into session after the election to pass it.” Pelosi said “the stock market meltdown…was a factor in her recommendation.&lt;/em&gt;

I detect a whiff of desperation...vintage &quot;too little, too late.&quot;

I prefer the &quot;impeachment&quot; variety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) yesterday recommended a new $150 billion economic stimulus plan and said “she may call the House into session after the election to pass it.” Pelosi said “the stock market meltdown…was a factor in her recommendation.</em></p>
<p>I detect a whiff of desperation&#8230;vintage &#8220;too little, too late.&#8221;</p>
<p>I prefer the &#8220;impeachment&#8221; variety.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275164', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uighurs: justice delayed is justice denied, again!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uighurs: justice delayed is justice denied, again!!!!!!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5275148', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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