Comments on: Anti-war nuns branded as ‘terrorists.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:14:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: republicanSScareme http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5278802 republicanSScareme Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:29:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5278802 The Maryland State Police have obviously been taken over by the American Nazi Party, aka the Republican Party. All good Americans should place the Maryland State Police on their terrorist watch list and be prepared to hang these officers as traitors. The Maryland State Police have obviously been taken over by the American Nazi Party, aka the Republican Party. All good Americans should place the Maryland State Police on their terrorist watch list and be prepared to hang these officers as traitors.

]]> By: one more clue http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5278166 one more clue Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:58:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5278166 How long before those whose names are on the terror lists are refused the right to vote? How long before those whose names are on the terror lists are refused the right to vote?

]]> By: DallasNE http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277838 DallasNE Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:02:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277838 Give a Republican a little power and they all go ape shit. Give a Republican a little power and they all go ape shit.

]]> By: Alejandro http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277750 Alejandro Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:28:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277750 <blockquote>Sounds to me like the typical sad sack argument I hear from people who say it doesn’t matter who we elect. Do you think things would have been the same under Gore?</blockquote> Domestically, no. Do you think that Gore was against the Comprehensive Terrorism Prevention Act in 1995-96? This is the predecessor to the USA Patriot Act. It rolled back search and seizure guarantees as well as legally allowed many surveillance techniques that previously were illegal. Think Gore would have been against the Patriot Act or the institution of the Department of Homeland Security? Hell no. It was Democrats that championed DHS. I don't think that Gore would have invaded Iraq. That's a major difference at least.

Sounds to me like the typical sad sack argument I hear from people who say it doesn’t matter who we elect.
Do you think things would have been the same under Gore?

Domestically, no.

Do you think that Gore was against the Comprehensive Terrorism Prevention Act in 1995-96? This is the predecessor to the USA Patriot Act. It rolled back search and seizure guarantees as well as legally allowed many surveillance techniques that previously were illegal.

Think Gore would have been against the Patriot Act or the institution of the Department of Homeland Security? Hell no. It was Democrats that championed DHS.

I don’t think that Gore would have invaded Iraq. That’s a major difference at least.

]]> By: Alejandro http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277686 Alejandro Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:05:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277686 <blockquote>What a hopeless thing to say. It’s not the left that takes away our rights. You speculate but have nothing to back up such an assumtion.</blockquote> Well, we'll just have to see. I've heard no rhetoric whatsoever from Obama against "terrorist watch lists" or really anything against police state tactics. I'm not saying that he hasn't, but I haven't seen it. Please, if you can maybe link me to a youtube video or something, or an article talking about Obama's direct opposition to terrorist watch lists or anything of the sort.

What a hopeless thing to say. It’s not the left that takes away our rights. You speculate but have nothing to back up such an assumtion.

Well, we’ll just have to see. I’ve heard no rhetoric whatsoever from Obama against “terrorist watch lists” or really anything against police state tactics. I’m not saying that he hasn’t, but I haven’t seen it.

Please, if you can maybe link me to a youtube video or something, or an article talking about Obama’s direct opposition to terrorist watch lists or anything of the sort.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277652 MapleStreet Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:57:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277652 And thus part of the failure of the system. All it takes is one goofy State Patrol cop and you're a terrorist. Now these nuns will have trouble getting on an airplane (?and subjected to strip searches?) at the airport. They will have trouble traveling to meetings. If they go to an international meeting, they may have trouble getting back into the country. They will be singled out for special inspections. They could have trouble making certain financial transactions. If the law is stretched much further, the terrorist list could be added to their financial record interfering with taking out a loan. Contributions made to terrorist groups (I assume they are part of the Catholic Church) may be frozen and/or seized. And thus part of the failure of the system. All it takes is one goofy State Patrol cop and you’re a terrorist.

Now these nuns will have trouble getting on an airplane (?and subjected to strip searches?) at the airport. They will have trouble traveling to meetings. If they go to an international meeting, they may have trouble getting back into the country. They will be singled out for special inspections. They could have trouble making certain financial transactions.

If the law is stretched much further, the terrorist list could be added to their financial record interfering with taking out a loan. Contributions made to terrorist groups (I assume they are part of the Catholic Church) may be frozen and/or seized.

]]> By: veteran http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277646 veteran Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:55:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277646 DAMN! Sure glad I don't live in Maryland. I have participated in numerous anti-war demonstrations, starting before Bush invaded Iraq. And I'm a retired Army officer and disabled Vietnam vet to boot. j Just trying to show my continued support of the US Constitution. DAMN! Sure glad I don’t live in Maryland.

I have participated in numerous anti-war demonstrations, starting before Bush invaded Iraq. And I’m a retired Army officer and disabled Vietnam vet to boot. j

Just trying to show my continued support of the US Constitution.

]]> By: CageyCretin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277582 CageyCretin Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:41:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277582 Oh, and... saying anything that is not in line with the neo-con/fascist model makes you a terrorist. Oh, and… saying anything that is not in line with the neo-con/fascist model makes you a terrorist.

]]> By: CageyCretin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277580 CageyCretin Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:40:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277580 <em>ThomasMc Says: Opposing eternal war for corporate profit now classifies you as a “terrorist”? Gee, and I thought Nazi Germany was a thing of the past…</em> The Nazi dream migrated to America. The Bush family was one of several who held on to that dream, hoping to see it one day realized. (Grandpa Bushie was a HUGE Nazi supporter and sympathizer). Rove is one of those creeps who read Mein Kamph and thought it was the greatest piece of literature ever. Rove is not a strategic innovator: the strategies are the old nazi strategies. He has some talent at implementation, perhaps, but not at innovation. ThomasMc Says:

Opposing eternal war for corporate profit now classifies you as a “terrorist”?

Gee, and I thought Nazi Germany was a thing of the past…

The Nazi dream migrated to America. The Bush family was one of several who held on to that dream, hoping to see it one day realized. (Grandpa Bushie was a HUGE Nazi supporter and sympathizer). Rove is one of those creeps who read Mein Kamph and thought it was the greatest piece of literature ever. Rove is not a strategic innovator: the strategies are the old nazi strategies. He has some talent at implementation, perhaps, but not at innovation.

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277518 Uncle Ho Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:18:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277518 clusterphuckTim; FLAGGED for spamming. you WILL be flagged with EVERY post you make clusterphuckTim; FLAGGED for spamming.

you WILL be flagged with EVERY post you make

]]> By: ThomasMc http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277504 ThomasMc Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:15:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277504 Opposing eternal war for corporate profit now classifies you as a "terrorist"? Gee, and I thought Nazi Germany was a thing of the past... Opposing eternal war for corporate profit now classifies you as a “terrorist”?

Gee, and I thought Nazi Germany was a thing of the past…

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277388 jb Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:32:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277388 The GOP is a terrorist organization. Their secret dream is death to America. The GOP is a terrorist organization. Their secret dream is death to America.

]]> By: CageyCretin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277330 CageyCretin Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:14:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277330 Funny... IF "it doesn't matter who you vote for" then why are you voting AT ALL? Every time I have seen that argument it has been from republicans (or republicans claiming to be something else). Sounds to me more like it is an attempt to disillusion voters who want some sort of change, because -- if it REALLY does not matter who you vote for then there is absolutely no point in voting at all. If you do not believe in democracy, or that there are politicians who might just want to do some good FOR the COUNTRY and the PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY, then don't waste your time participating in what you decry as a sham, as you would be wasting your time. If it REALLY is a matter of "They are all exactly the same" then don't vote. Even a caveman can tell that all politicians are not the same. Dumbest advice I've heard about voting -- EVER! Funny… IF “it doesn’t matter who you vote for” then why are you voting AT ALL? Every time I have seen that argument it has been from republicans (or republicans claiming to be something else). Sounds to me more like it is an attempt to disillusion voters who want some sort of change, because — if it REALLY does not matter who you vote for then there is absolutely no point in voting at all. If you do not believe in democracy, or that there are politicians who might just want to do some good FOR the COUNTRY and the PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY, then don’t waste your time participating in what you decry as a sham, as you would be wasting your time. If it REALLY is a matter of “They are all exactly the same” then don’t vote.

Even a caveman can tell that all politicians are not the same.

Dumbest advice I’ve heard about voting — EVER!

]]> By: Progressive Veteran http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277316 Progressive Veteran Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:11:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277316 Good to see the tax dollars going to a couple fat state cops performing surveillance on a peaceful protest. Good to see the tax dollars going to a couple fat state cops performing surveillance on a peaceful protest.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277290 Fred Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:01:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277290 <blockquote>just john Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @67: And what does that have to do with anything I’ve said? I said I was voting for Obama, but was talking about a specific issue: The Surveillance State.</blockquote> you were talking about a specific issue and trying to lump Obama and all democrats into the same slimy pool that the republicans swim in. They are not the same. buhy buhy.

just john Says:
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@67:

And what does that have to do with anything I’ve said?

I said I was voting for Obama, but was talking about a specific issue: The Surveillance State.

you were talking about a specific issue and trying to lump Obama and all democrats into the same slimy pool that the republicans swim in. They are not the same.

buhy buhy.

]]> By: just john http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277282 just john Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:57:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277282 PS: Bye PS: Bye

]]> By: just john http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277276 just john Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:56:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277276 @67: And what does that have to do with anything I've said? I said I was voting for Obama, but was talking about a specific issue: The Surveillance State. If you're just a Dem mirror of those professional McCain blog trolls we read about in Salon, well, that explains it. But I won't pretend that you're engaging in actual conversation. @67:

And what does that have to do with anything I’ve said?

I said I was voting for Obama, but was talking about a specific issue: The Surveillance State.

If you’re just a Dem mirror of those professional McCain blog trolls we read about in Salon, well, that explains it. But I won’t pretend that you’re engaging in actual conversation.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277262 Fred Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:52:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277262 just john Says: Alejandro Says: Google FDR and depression. If mccain gets elected and we are in the middle of the inevitable depression people will starve. If Obama gets elected those people will be fed. google civil rights. google who initiates these treasonous actions, clue for ya, just like deregulation, it's never a democrat. just john Says:
Alejandro Says:

Google FDR and depression. If mccain gets elected and we are in the middle of the inevitable depression people will starve. If Obama gets elected those people will be fed.

google civil rights.

google who initiates these treasonous actions, clue for ya, just like deregulation, it’s never a democrat.

]]> By: just john http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277256 just john Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:46:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277256 @65: Google "Rockefeller drug laws" And speaking of Rockefellers, the <em>Democratic</em> one, currently in the Senate, was happy to cave in on the FISA thing. @65:

Google “Rockefeller drug laws”

And speaking of Rockefellers, the Democratic one, currently in the Senate, was happy to cave in on the FISA thing.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5277250 Fred Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:42:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/10/anti-war-nuns-branded-as-%e2%80%98terrorists%e2%80%99/#comment-5277250 <blockquote>just john Says: @60: Has Obama said anything about dismantling the surveillance state? If so, I don’t recall hearing about it.</blockquote> Reasonable surveillance was never an issue. It is only the right wing that uses it to spy on Americans and their political opponants....see history. You just see what you want to see. Wake up and smell the difference.

just john Says:
@60:

Has Obama said anything about dismantling the surveillance state? If so, I don’t recall hearing about it.

Reasonable surveillance was never an issue. It is only the right wing that uses it to spy on Americans and their political opponants….see history.

You just see what you want to see. Wake up and smell the difference.

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