Connecticut Supreme Court rules that gay couples have the right to marry.
Connecticut Supreme Court rules that gay couples have the right to marry.
In a 4-3 decision released this morning, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled in favor of marriage equality, stating that same-sex couples have the right to wed. Citing the equal protection clause of the state constitution, the justices ruled that civil unions were discriminatory. From the ruling:
Interpreting our state constitutional provisions in accordance with firmly established equal protection principles leads inevitably to the conclusion that gay persons are entitled to marry the otherwise qualified same sex partner of their choice. [...]To decide otherwise would require us to apply one set of constitutional principles to gay persons and another to all others.”
The Hartford Courant notes that “the court’s ruling today will likely be the final judicial judgment in the case because it it based on the state constitution, rather then the U.S. constitution.”
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And somewhere, in an undisclosed location somewher in the D.C. area Vice President Dick Cheney's head has exploded.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:57 amThat explosion was darryl's empty head popping ........
October 10th, 2008 at 11:58 amIt's good to see that after years of decrying state's rights over federal government intervention have bitten the GOP square in the buttocks! Congratulations Connecticut and welcome to the party!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThis thread ought to ring Daryll's chimes. Daryll posting in 3...2...1...
October 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pmThere was a case decided on the same grounds in Hawaii years ago. Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg, (actually especially her because she often spoke about the discrimination she faced) voted to hear the case and to strike down the decision. I wouldn't hold my breath on the state law prevents review theory.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:02 pmCan Lindsay Graham finally pork Joe Lieberman legally now?
October 10th, 2008 at 12:04 pmJoe Lieberman???
October 10th, 2008 at 12:05 pmA great victory.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pmHURRAH!!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:07 pmThe one good new's item during the bull shit bush/ dark prince cheney's administration....BTW where has the dark prince been lately.? Off to Dubi with suit cases of our cash maybe.? Manning huge shredder's in the basement of the white house.? Humm....Blessings
October 10th, 2008 at 12:08 pm@ 5:
It's not a 'state law prevents review theory' issue.
It is the long held belief that the law which affords greater protection trumps that which provides less. In this case, the greater protection is afforded the individual right and not some amorphous protection given at the Federal level to the 'institution' of marriage, as traditionally held.
It's the reason that in Hawaii, for example, greater protection against 'unlawful' search and seizure procedures are afforded by the Hawaii Supreme Court's Joao decision, which is squarely at odds with the United States Supreme Court's decisions regarding 'plain view' exceptions to the 4th Amendment protections regarding search and seizure.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pmYay!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pmThis is really good news. The bad news is that the proposition in California to overturn the rights of gays to marry is looking uncomfortably like it may pass.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:13 pmOpponents were obviously disappointed in the ruling. "The court has just usurped democracy in Connecticut and redefined marriage by judical force,'' said Peter Wolfgang, executive director of the Family Institute of Connecticut.
de·moc·ra·cy
the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
These backwards ass shitheads really need to start reading books other than the Bible ...................
October 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pmNow that New York state will recognize any legally performed gay marriage (even though gays still cannot legally marry in NY), I imagine that Connecticut didn't want to see Massachusetts getting all the NY wedding business without some competition.
No matter. The wedding industry makes money, gays get the same rights as straights, and the world won't fall apart (despite the dire warnings of the Darylls of the world).
That's three states now that have legalized gay marriage (California, Massachusetts, and Connecticut), and two that have legalized gay civil unions (New Jersey and Vermont). And a sixth state -- New York -- that promises to recognize all these relationships.
Six down, forty-four to go. Progress is being made.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
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Now that New York state will recognize any legally performed gay marriage (even though gays still cannot legally marry in NY), I imagine that Connecticut didn’t want to see Massachusetts getting all the NY wedding business without some competition.
No matter. The wedding industry makes money, gays get the same rights as straights, and the world won’t fall apart (despite the dire warnings of the Darylls of the world).
That’s three states now that have legalized gay marriage (California, Massachusetts, and Connecticut), and two that have legalized gay civil unions (New Jersey and Vermont). And a sixth state — New York — that promises to recognize all these relationships.
Six down, forty-four to go. Progress is being made.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Pretty sad and disturbing how every state named outside of California , are ALL northeastern based ones .........
JERSEY REPRESENT , BTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:21 pmlast night I had a Dream I was in McCain's prison. weird ass dreams man
October 10th, 2008 at 12:21 pmUncle Ho @#4 ~ Ya beat me to it. Darlyy's been seriously AWOL around here for the last few weeks.
If he's trying to emulate the chymp, he's doin a heckuva job!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pmRU; perhaps the troll has been banned? Yes?
If so, we need to target clusterphuck next for his constant ad-spamming.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pmThe Repigious Right is dying just like the segregationists of the 60s. The battle is far from over, but 20 years from now people are gonna wonder why anyone ever cared about gay marriage.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:52 pmOh that silly Connecticut Supreme Court ruling for equal rights.
What do they think this is America?
It hasn't been America for 8 years, it is now Fasict States of AmeriKKKa.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:53 pmClearly, the Connecticutt State Supreme Court is nothing but a bunch of "commie faggots"
October 10th, 2008 at 12:54 pmI guess respect goes out to Governor Rell for pledging to do her job...
I can't believe that the bar is so low now that I feel compelled to applaud people for PERFORMING THE DUTIES OF THEIR ELECTED OFFICE even though they disagree.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:57 pmGay marriage is a straight-up, two-handed 14th Amendment slam-dunk, and always h as been. As long as the state ratifies ANY union, it must ratify any mutually consenting union. duh...
October 10th, 2008 at 12:58 pmI've said it before and I'll say it again:
I don't (and no one should) give two flying ratfu(ks what people do in their own bedrooms as long as children and animals aren't involved, no one gets hurt, and both parties (or all parties in the case of swingers) consent.
Beyond pedophilia, beastiality, and rape no one has any business telling anyone who they can and cannot bang or marry.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pmPerhaps the trolls are needed elsewhere. Could they be the "fill-ins" at the g.o.p rallies? The ones yelling for the dismemberment a/o death of Obama?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:03 pmHey Rupture Ready Darlyy, I guess you might as well continue pissing into the wind. Checked out Intrade lately? No? OK, well, y'see the gamblers in that market are betting 78.8% to McIIIrd's 21.5% that Obama is our next president.
BTW, your wife isn't a beast, is she?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:08 pmRaptureReady Says:
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I guess Connecticut might as well let man marry beast.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
And why is that exactly ?
Are you ready to mate ?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:12 pmRUCerious Says:
OK, well, y’see the gamblers in that market are betting 78.8% to McIIIrd’s 21.5% that Obama is our next president.
Before the election, God will strike down those who intend to vote for Obama in order to punish those gamblers for their sin.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:12 pmLook at our economy. It is completely horrible because the Democratic congress didn’t create provisions to regulate the market.
You're pathetic. These derivative markets and loan scams were put in place from about 2002 thru today.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:15 pmDon't tell me you don't remember who was in control at that time...Yes, your Republican heroes are CROOKED!
Democrats received a large sum of funding from financial and mortgage firms.
Got citations?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pmUh Daryll, the Democrats created many provisions to regulate the markets, beginning in 1933.
The Republicans systematically dismantled those regulations over the past 25 years.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pmRaptureReady Says:
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Somehow, someway, I believe that McCain and Palin will win. She is save and sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Wasn't the same nonsense said about Gomer Pyle Huckleberry , too , dimwit ?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:20 pmWhy do you want to marry a beast?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:22 pmDaryll, why didn't God stop Phil Gramm from passing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 which removed regulation and allowed trading of mortgages as securities.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:27 pmRantingTommy Says:
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RaptureReady Says:
I guess Connecticut might as well let man marry beast.
Why do you want to marry a beast?
Because he doesn't believe in sex before marriage.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:30 pmRaptureReady Says:
I guess Connecticut might as well let man marry beast.
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I guess anyone who equates homsexuality with beatiality is ignorant, perverted, devoid of decency and sexually repressed. Find a girl that you dont have to blow up and stop worrying about how OTHER people comport themselves you sick piece of garbage
October 10th, 2008 at 1:32 pmNOW I finally understand why all these backwoods rednecks are so afraid of legalized gay marriage. They really believe it will lead to a culture in which they are pressured to marry the object of their sexual desires, and she can't say anything but 'moo' or 'baa'.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pmGreat news for the gay couples I know! They all married in 'civil unions' but this is better of course.
I heard a rumor awhile back that McCain was considering Jodi Rell for his VP and I thought, "Oh no!" - reason being that he would have had a good shot with her, well more of a shot anyway.
Jodi Rell is well thought of in Connecticut even though she's a Republican. I know a lot of people who voted Democratic across the board in the last election, except that they voted for her. She's a good administrator, can appeal to both sides and has been a steadying force in Connecticut.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:35 pmBtw - that's pretty funny Darryl blaming the Dems for the financial crisis because they didn't regulate more. Wow.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:36 pmRaptureReady Says:
Somehow, someway, I believe that McCain and Palin will win. She is save and sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost. We need are morals and values changed in this nation. Look at our economy. It is completely horrible because the Democratic congress didn’t create provisions to regulate the market. Democrats received a large sum of funding from financial and mortgage firms. CROOKED!!!
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YOU are a liar and a fool. First there is no reason in the world to believe that Palin is any more Christian or any more saved than Obama. Second it is the GOP mania for deregulation that got us into this mess. While there may be enough blame to go around it isnt equal and blaming it on Democrats exclusivly is both lying AND being ignorant. Both of which you do quite often. You are an astonishingly brainwashed and ignorant moron
October 10th, 2008 at 1:36 pmmary Says:
Btw - that’s pretty funny Darryl blaming the Dems for the financial crisis because they didn’t regulate more. Wow.
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His capacity for self delusion is astonishing
October 10th, 2008 at 1:38 pmGood.
And they don't have time for a dumb ballot initiative. There are six "Yes on 9" signs in my SoCal neighborhood this morning. I am having to restrain myself from spray painting "haters" across them.
So I went and bought a bunch of "No on 8" bumper stickers at
http://www.noonprop8store.com/eshop
Handing them out to my friends when I get them...
October 10th, 2008 at 1:40 pmEugeneDebs - He may be feeling particularly cranky with his investments in oil tanking, to use a bad pun.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:41 pmSomehow, someway, I believe that McCain and Palin will win
Good luck with that. Blind faith is nothing to be proud of Daryll.
She is save and sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost
Yep, which is why she's following the teachings of Christ and allowing people to call Obama a terrorist at her rallies, allowing people to chant "kill him" about ANYONE at her rallies, showing ZERO compassion after Biden's response to her callous insinuation that he doesn't understand hardship and he had to remind her he lost his wife and daughter, and very nearly both his sons.
We need are morals and values changed in this nation
I believe you meant to say "OUR" morals and values changed, and I couldn't agree more. We need to stop bombing the world into oblivion, stop discriminating against our fellow citizens due to sexual orientation, race, and creed, stop giving untold sums of money to the super rich while the poor and middle class twist in the wind (As a supposed Christian you should agree with me on this, Jesus was pretty socialist), provide health care to all, stop imprisoning and torturing innocent people, stop invading countries for profit...etc etc etc. Glad we agree.
Look at our economy. It is completely horrible because the REPUBLICAN congress and White House removed provisions to regulate the market.
There fixed that for you.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:46 pmGood to see The Performance Artist Known as Daryll™ is back and posting with his new band, but it doesn't really seem like his heart is in it, does it?
Seems to be phoning it in.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:50 pmThis is fantastic. My heart soars every time I read about the good loving couples who will now be able to marry. This is a great day for them, a great day for their children, a great day for Connecticut, and a great day for America!
I hope that next time Biden and Obama are asked whether they support the basic civil rights of gay people their answer will have evolved from the soft bigotry they peddle now. I hold no hope for Palin or McCain.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:54 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Good to see The Performance Artist Known as Daryll™ is back and posting with his new band, but it doesn’t really seem like his heart is in it, does it?
Seems to be phoning it in.
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Actually sad as it is this is probably the best he can do
October 10th, 2008 at 2:03 pmclusterphuckTim; FLAGGED!
October 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pmOoops! There goes heterosexual marriage and Western Civilization!
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October 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pmArizona allowed Cindy to marry TRex, that trumps your man on beast fears Bro Daryll.
McFrothing is praying that Jesus will get involved in this election in the form of some demented supporter (sorry for the redundancy) who will climb a tower and do the Lord's work.
The Tanya Harding gambit, it's all they have.
October 10th, 2008 at 2:50 pm"I do not believe their voice reflects the majority of the people of Connecticut."
WHO CARES? Why on earth does that matter? This issue is not the same as a SPLOST proposal or who will serve as governor. This issue is about BASIC HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS. Such rights CANNOT be put up to the popular vote. Does anyone really think that blacks would have been given the right to vote if white people got to decide on it in an election?
Screw the majority. They aren't going to be affected by same-sex marriage. No one is going to force anyone to marry someone of their own gender. The theocrats and social fascists will go insane over this, screaming how "unfair" it is that people didn't get to vote on it.
Congratulations to the gay and lesbian citizens of CT who will now have their marriages recognized by the state government.
Three states down.... 47 more to go!
October 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pmRaptureReady Says
October 10th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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"Somehow, someway, I believe that McCain and Palin will win."
-- Then you have more faith than even the GOP party leadership. Even they are saying McCain is a long-shot at this point.
"She is save and sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost."
-- You claim you are, too. Does this qualify you to be Vice-President? Actually, all four of the top candidates on both major tickets claim to be Christians. What makes Palin more special than the other three in that department?
"We need are morals and values changed in this nation."
-- I couldn't agree with you more. The current values held by our leadership -- make the rich richer, throw the poor by the wayside, wage war whenever and wherever possible, trample on the U.S. Constitution, lie to the people, and grab as much money for cronies as possible -- are bankrupting us financially and morally. We need to restore our moral standing in the world, and we need to do it now.
"Look at our economy. It is completely horrible because the Democratic congress didn’t create provisions to regulate the market."
-- You've GOT to be kidding. Even if Congress had focused on regulating the market as their number one issue, they wouldn't have gotten far with the obstructionist GOP. And even if they had, Dubya would have vetoed anything that even SMELLED like it might end the gravy train for the greedheads. In the past eight years, the ONLY power (real OR perceived) the Democrats have had is a technical majority in both houses of Congress (not a functional one). Yet that doesn't stop you from pointing your finger at the Democrats for all our ills. Nice try, but the ownership of the collapse of this house of cards is on your side.
"Democrats received a large sum of funding from financial and mortgage firms. CROOKED!!!"
October 10th, 2008 at 2:54 pm-- They probably did. Financial and mortgage firms (like many other industries affected by regulation or the lack thereof) give generously to both parties. I would still be willing to bet the GOP got significantly more. But hey -- if you have some actual data proving that the Democrats got money and the GOP didn't, by all mean -- provide it.
greenpagan Says
October 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Ooops! There goes heterosexual marriage and Western Civilization!
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How many people here are in a heterosexual marriage? Show of hands?
How many of you believe your marriage will dissolve as a result of the Connecticut decision or if Proposition 8 fails in California? Or maybe more states have to legalize gay marriage before significant erosion occurs in your own? What's the magic number of states to greenlight gay marriage before it's splitsville for you and your spouse?
October 10th, 2008 at 2:58 pmMarriage is and will continue to be a relationship between a man and a woman. Marriage carries, and will continue to carry, the divine imprint of the Creator who, as Jesus said, intended that a man and a woman would be “one flesh.” This “one flesh,” which is marriage, is a relationship that can only be achieved between a man and a woman.
There is not a court in the world that has the power to change what constitutes a marriage.
Further, the U.S. Constitution was not written to condone immorality.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pmbitblt Says:
YOU are an idiot. Fortunatly we dont allow IDIOTS to define the law OR constitution OR morality for us. Marriage has NOT always been between a man and a woman that is one of the many delusional fantasies that you have made up in your head and like regurgitate like the fool hiveminder you are. WE are not bound by your delusions not those of us on this board nor our society in general. I urge you to get over yourself. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER that the courts have every RIGHT to decide the legal definition of marriage. Churches can continue to keep their own definitions. What is NEVER going to happen is that YOU are going to define for the courts what is legal in this country. You are a moron a bigot and severely brainwashed the wingnut trifecta
October 10th, 2008 at 3:52 pm"liberal traitor said: Clearly, the Connecticutt State Supreme Court is nothing but a bunch of “commie faggots”.
Wow, most of them (the majority) were appointed by Republican governors. Only 3 (Palmer, Vertefeuille and Norcott) were appointed by a Democrat.
"commie faggots", indeed!
October 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm