Troopergate investigation finds Palin ‘abused her power.’
Troopergate investigation finds Palin ‘abused her power.’
The investigator authorized by the Alaska Legislative Council to examine the “Troopergate” scandal released his report today, and found that Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) “abused her power” by pushing State Police Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire her former brother-in-law Mike Wooten:
For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 2952.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 2952.110(a) provides
“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
The investigation also found that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten “was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety.”
Today's report shows that the Governor acted within her proper and lawful authority in the reassignment of Walt Monegan. The report also illustrates what we've known all along: this was a partisan led inquiry run by Obama supporters and the Palins were completely justified in their concern regarding Trooper Wooten given his violent and rogue behavior. Lacking evidence to support the original Monegan allegation, the Legislative Council seriously overreached, making a tortured argument to find fault without basis in law or fact. The Governor is looking forward to cooperating with the Personnel Board and continuing her conversation with the American people regarding the important issues facing the country.
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Does this mean Monegan can sue her for reinstatement, and damages?
A good friday, for a change.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:44 pmCNN is reporting that Sarah Palin "violated an Alaskan statute", but the banner says she "Broke no laws." I thought violation of a statute was the definition of breaking a law.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:45 pmPalin can't be trusted. Fact.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pm“Troopergate investigation finds Palin ‘abused her power.’”
- - The report also says that Palin did nothing unlawful, she just violated the public trust. So, bupkes.
But tell us again, Sarah, how we can't trust Obama whe you've just been officially "convicted" of violating the oublic trust as a sitting Governor of Alaska.
Hip. O. Crit.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pmMcCrazyF ucker had to defend Obama twice today, and now this...?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pmNo wonder McNumbNuts and Failin' Palin have been blabbering about Ayers, etc. They were launching a "pre-emptive distraction".
Boy, when things started heading downhill for this Dynamic Duo, they sure picked up speed quickly. What could possibly be next . . . a total "exploding head" melt-down by McNumbNuts in the next debate?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pmArtZ -
I read this on CNN too...I'm a bit confused, how can abusing one's governmental power NOT be breaking the law? It will be interesting to see howw this plays out/spun by Repubs...
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pmI think he can still sue her and the state for damages.
The standard for proof is much lower in civil court.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pmO...B...A...M...A.....L....A....N....D....S...L....I....D.....E
October 10th, 2008 at 8:48 pmbarfly Says:
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I think he can still sue her and the state for damages.
The standard for proof is much lower in civil court.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Absolutely
And remember ; he now has legal documentation to back up his claim(s).
Bible Spice has her wink and a smile .................
October 10th, 2008 at 8:50 pmThe investigation also found that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten “was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety.”
Meaning...what?
That Monegan is partially responsible?
How so?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:51 pmDunk her in the water for 15 minutes. If she drowns she's guilty, if she's innocent god will let her live. Praise jeebus.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:51 pmI mean, if Palin broke no laws, does this "The investigation also found that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten “was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety.” mean Monegan can't sue for reinstatement?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:53 pmPalin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:53 pmAs a matter of principle, the GOP does not believe anything like a "public trust" can exist. Therefore Palin could not have violated it.
It's like the concept of "public interest". Republicans laugh at it.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:53 pmShe's been palin' around with the debil.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:54 pmMonegan says he was dismissed as retribution for resisting pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
The legislative panel met for six hours before making a unanimous decision to release the so-called "Troopergate" report. The vote was 12-0 to release the report, except for certain parts they consider confidential.
Alaska lawmakers began reviewing the lengthy and politically sensitive investigative report early Friday focusing on whether Palin abused her authority as governor.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:54 pm- - The report also says that Palin did nothing unlawful, she just violated the public trust. So, bupkes.
-Badmoodman
She broke the law unless the statute was just advice or a suggestion.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:55 pmIMO here's the key portion:
Palin violated the state Ethics Act, Branchflower found.
"The evidence supports the conclusion that Governor Palin, at the least, engaged in 'official action' by her inaction if not her active participation or assistance to her husband in attempting to get Trooper Wooten fired [and there is evidence of her active participation]," he concluded.
"[Palin] knowingly ... permitted [husband] Todd Palin to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office ... in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired."
October 10th, 2008 at 8:55 pmrinse....lather....repeat.....
October 10th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
C'mon everybody! This election isn't about abuse of power or the economy going off a cliff. This election is about one thing only: Bill Ayers.
Sean H.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:57 pmDick Cheney and KKKarl 'Turd Blossom' Rove would be soooo proud of Governor Sarah Palin!
Her Impeachment Award as qualification for running for Vice President of the United States, will rank right up there with her "Alaska's proximity to Russia" as part of her foreign policy experience.
Totally freakin unbelievable...
October 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pmShe is a one way power grabbing wacko fake christo nutjob. What else does anyone need to know. I'd trust any number of death row inmates over the likes of her.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pmListen, the woman wears white after Labor Day, and that was enough for me to find her guilty.
So, Johnny Boy, what now? First you spend the late afternoon trying to quell the riots Princess Wasilla is inciting, and now this?
PEACE
October 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Monegan says he was dismissed as retribution for resisting pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor’s sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
Yes, yes, but since she technically broke no laws limiting her conduct as governor, can he sue for reinstatement?
Will she receive some sort of official reprimand, or is this it?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:59 pmBut her Palin-McCain campaign gave her a clean bill of health. How can this be?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:00 pmChapter 39.52. ALASKA EXECUTIVE BRANCH ETHICS ACT
Article 01. DECLARATIONS
Sec. 39.52.010. Declaration of policy.
(a) It is declared that
(1) high moral and ethical standards among public officers in the executive branch are
essential to assure the trust, respect, and confidence of the people of this state;
(2) a code of ethics for the guidance of public officers will
(A) discourage those officers from acting upon personal or financial interests in the
performance of their public responsibilities;
(B) improve standards of public service; and
(C) promote and strengthen the faith and confidence of the people of this state in their
public officers;
(3) holding public office or employment is a public trust and that as one safeguard of that
trust, the people require public officers to adhere to a code of ethics;
(4) a fair and open government requires that executive branch public officers conduct the
public's business in a manner that preserves the integrity of the governmental process and avoids
conflicts of interest;
(5) in order for the rules governing conduct to be respected both during and after leaving
public service, the code of ethics must be administered fairly without bias or favoritism;
(6) no code of conduct, however comprehensive, can anticipate all situations in which
violations may occur nor can it prescribe behaviors that are appropriate to every situation; in
addition, laws and regulations regarding ethical responsibilities cannot legislate morality,
eradicate corruption, or eliminate bad judgment; and
(7) compliance with a code of ethics is an individual responsibility; thus all who serve the
state have a solemn responsibility to avoid improper conduct and prevent improper behavior by
colleagues and subordinates.
(b) The legislature declares that it is the policy of the state, when a public employee is
appointed to serve on a state board or commission, that the holding of such offices does not
constitute the holding of incompatible offices unless expressly prohibited by the Alaska
Constitution, this chapter and any opinions or decisions rendered under it, or another statute.
Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I'd always heard that for a statute to have the full force of law, it's supposed to be specifically worded "shall," not "will."
Does this mean the statute is weakly written, to allow such abuses of power?
Or are they just stupid?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:06 pmHi, let me introduce myself. I am "the fat lady":
ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..................
October 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pmTime for her to join the unemployed.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pmhttp://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.mccain10oct10,0,7557571.story
John McCain: If your campaign does not stop equating Sen. Barack Obama with terrorism, questioning his patriotism and portraying Mr. Obama as "not one of us," I accuse you of deliberately feeding the most unhinged elements of our society the red meat of hate, and therefore of potentially instigating violence.
At a Sarah Palin rally, someone called out, "Kill him!" At one of your rallies, someone called out, "Terrorist!" Neither was answered or denounced by you or your running mate, as the crowd laughed and cheered. At your campaign event Wednesday in Bethlehem, Pa., the crowd was seething with hatred for the Democratic nominee - an attitude encouraged in speeches there by you, your running mate, your wife and the local Republican chairman.
Shame!
[...]
October 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pmViolating a state statute is a big deal, maybe not criminal, but certainly civil action is possible. That is ususally determined and defined within the statute itself.
That said, she should stay on as VP candidate and help sink the SS TRIETPAUNBILCICAN.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:11 pmIOKIYAR ?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:13 pmDrago: Thought that looked familiar. Went and checked. Hi sleek!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/lawmakers_to_release_trooperga.php#comment-3175190
October 10th, 2008 at 9:13 pmUSUSALLY = usually. /finger dexterity
October 10th, 2008 at 9:13 pmLet's see how they spin this...obviously Nazi Barbi is made of the same stuff as GW Bush, a liar, and is not to be trusted.
McNutz boat has sprung a huge leak here.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:14 pmYeah? and? you think this is gonna matter?
That shadowy, underground, commie-fag-enviro terror group has been committing VOTER FRAUD!
whether true or not, it validates the Puke voter fraud meme and sets the stage to contradict the election theft charges that will surely follow the McPalin 'victory' in Nov...
October 10th, 2008 at 9:17 pmWow - Palin made at least 19 phone calls by this summer to get rid of the guy - barely in office 1/2 year.
Not Gov-nor for a year and already a report finding that she violated the ethics act.
Quite busy !!!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:18 pmWhat the McCain camp will hang their hat on:
Finding Number Two:
I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pmWhether she broke an actual law or not, the findings of this report proves Palin is untrustworthy, immoral and a sleaze. We already know her cruelty towards animals, her constant ability to lie and her insanity = witchcraft, speaks in tongues and ready for the rapture.
All in all this is one fine gopper candidate.... deserves the big R.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pmIf all the truth that's coming about about Obama's intimate connection with terrorists won't get the McCain campaign any traction, then this revelation about Governor Palin won't get the Democrats squat either.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pmHaving just read parts of the report, the findings are that she was within her authority to dismiss Monegan.
But with the vagueness of the statute, he could probably still sue in civil court. Trooper Wooten, as well, I'd imagine.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pmThese are bad times for McCain's campaign,and this one will be the worst he has to face so far.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pmI cannot see how McCain can survive this one,specially when his electability chances are getting lesser and lesser everyday.
There is nothing worse for a candidate,specially running for vice president job, than to be found abusing his power and public trust.
Sarah Palin now is the biggest headache for McCain,instead of helping him as he hoped, she is now his biggest burden.
With 4 weeks left,time is running out for McCain.
Sarah's attacks on Obama demanding his truthfulness regarding something happened when Obama was 8 years old will make her now a big hypocrite,when she said that she has nothing to hide regarding the case of her abuse of power as a governor.
This is the big one for McCain's presidency.
Personally, from all I've heard about the trooper's conduct on the job, he should have been fired! If I were the Governor I would have done the same thing.
What people forget is that with unions and all the civil service protections availabel, it's nearly impossible to get rid of rotten apples.
Just look at teachers.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:22 pmBy the way, TP, your story up top is woefully inadequate and skewed against Palin.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:22 pmBuckie Boy Says:
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"Let’s see how they spin this…"
Just checked the Fox News website on this story. Very short and no mention of breaking any laws.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:23 pmAnd now, for some light humor:
Tim Vaculik Says:
If all the truth that’s coming about about Obama’s intimate connection with terrorists won’t get the McCain campaign any traction, then this revelation about Governor Palin won’t get the Democrats squat either.
A little early to be crying in your beer.
Have another snort on me, Tim.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:24 pmIf enough Senators and Congress critters are also elected, and the sweep flows through to state houses...can you say Constitutional Amendments?
Like:
ERA
FreeMarriage
Curtail Corporate rights
Universal Healthcare as a right
Add your own.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:24 pmSorry, I was wrong. Fox news report does state: "report found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain."
October 10th, 2008 at 9:24 pmWell, I think the point is she probably wouldnt bring integrity back to Worshington
October 10th, 2008 at 9:24 pmJust look at teachers.
Go peddle your rotten bananas somewhere else.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:25 pmjb Says:
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Dunk her in the water for 15 minutes. If she drowns she’s guilty, if she’s innocent god will let her live. Praise jeebus.
LMAO
October 10th, 2008 at 9:25 pmSarah"whichcraft-free since 2005"Palin
Vetters? Vetters? Calling all Vetters! Immediate openings in the McCain campaign! (note: short-term position, no benefits)
Anyone wanna bet the "C" word is being thrown around a lot on the Hate Talk Express tonight?
PEACE
October 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pmAt least she and Cheney have similar thoughts on the power of the office of the vice president. My only question? Would she have a woman sized safe in her office?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pmHey McCain - vetting - heard of it?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pmAnd tonight's the night Palin is dropping the first puck here at the Flyers game.
Palin is getting publicly pucked in more ways than one!
PEACE
October 10th, 2008 at 9:28 pmAnother wheel off the "straight talk express".
October 10th, 2008 at 9:29 pmtarazan,
Dream on! GMAFB...
The Governor HASN'T been trying to "hide" anything, unlike Obama who has been caught in lie after lie after LIE about his past. Talk about issues of trust.
If you were honest, you would admit that if Senator McCain had ANY one of the associations Obama has, he would have already been crucified and had to drop out of the race!
Admit it. The press as well as Democrats, progressives and assorted radicals DON'T CARE about the obvious character issues raised by Obama's past, not to mention his current associations with America haters of all stripes.
It's enough to make me retch.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:29 pmOn the contrary....there is no truth in the reich-wing smears and lies. However, we have undeniable factual proof that McFalin cannot be trusted.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:30 pmWill you commit suicide once Obama wins? Please?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:30 pmbarfly,
Truth hurts, doesn't it?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:31 pmApparently so, because you're imploding over the truth about McFalin.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:31 pmIts looking more like a snowmobile nowadays.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:31 pmPalin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
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Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:32 pmDr. Hussein Matt,
Heck no! I will have a lot to do re-arranging my assets to protect them from the socialists. hehehehe
October 10th, 2008 at 9:33 pm...
RACHEL MADDOW is AWESOME.
her lead in tonight, to the mcPALIN hate and fear mongering story - more accurate, the story about mcCRAZY havind to DEFEND OBAMA - was amazing, a knockout... and uniquely rachel...
she brought up the unspoken history lesson behind all the trash talk and the consequences... in like 20 seconds. (maybe)
get it. pass it on.
.
oh, and mz. palin?
ah hahahahaha! what a su-prise!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:33 pmDr. Hussein Matt,
Keep showing us your I.Q., there genuius.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pmYour shopping cart filled with cans are safe.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pmThe McGrampa campaign has issued a formal response:
"It's Obama's fault".
October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pmAdmit it. The press as well as Democrats, progressives and assorted radicals DON’T CARE about the obvious character issues raised by Obama’s past, not to mention his current associations with America haters of all stripes.
Fake troll.
Use the capslock, for Godsakes, if you want to be convincing.
And misspell some words.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:35 pmWell, I wont add to your post other than to say she certainly isnt acting like a good christian should.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:35 pmKeep showing us your I.Q., there genuius.
Now, that's better!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:36 pmROFL!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pmDr. Matt,
O.K., big mouth. Why don't you give some proof where the Governor lied how she is a hypocrite, and what makes here a "fraud"
I'm sure it all seems true in your twisted little mind, but I think you need to put up or shut up. Please try to stick to the facts...
Oh, I forgot. Democrats and their ilk have no use for the facts. If reality conflicts with their worldview, then it is the facts that must be altered to fit the SITUATION.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:41 pmHere's your proof, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/
Let us know if you need help with the big words, genuius [sic].
October 10th, 2008 at 9:43 pmNow, lets not frighten Tim off. His brethren don't come round' much since the McBush economy started going end up, so he should be commended for venturing out, in these uncertain times.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:43 pmPalin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
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October 10th, 2008 at 9:43 pmbarfly,
Shhhhhh. These folks here don't know I'm really their hero, OBAMA.
hahahahahahahaha
October 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pmOuch
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
October 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pmTim Vaculik,
She is the one who said that she has 'nothing to hide...', but she refused to testify..
Her husband refused to testify after getting his Subpoena from the investigation committee.
What do you call this...?
You will not be silent about Obama,if he did the same thing.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pmAnd now she was found abusing her power as a governor.
Actually, Tim, the burden of proof is upon you. You need to prove how she didnt try to use her position to get her sisters ex husband fired.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:45 pmRepublicans view this type of behavior as a positive.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:45 pmDick C will be impressed if she says "so".
Tim Vaculik Says:
Shhhhhh. These folks here don’t know I’m really their hero, OBAMA.
We don't much go in for hero worship, Herr Vaculik.
That's your side of the street.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pmDr. Matt,
Not so fast, slick. I want to know why YOU say it's so.
You obviously believe it, so see if you can assemble a coherent set of connected thoughts to express yourself in something other than monosyllables.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pmIt seems to go like this ( I just read a bunch of the report)
2005
Wooten and Molly Palin get divorced.
Some time later Palin;s Dad makes a complaint against Wooten which is then investigated.
The Palin's dad and Todd Palin make additional complaints which are also investigated, and this lengthens the investigation.
Palin's dad calls to ask what's happening, why is the investigation taking so long.
He is told it's because of the added complaints but the investigation is being conducted and he can't tell him anything more because of a specific legal statue that he cites that prevents public discussion of personnel issues.
Todd Palin calls with the same question and gets the same answer ( and the specific statute #).
Sarah Palin calls with the same question and gets the same answer. ( and the specific statute #).
Investigation complete, Wooten gets some discoplinary action ( not sure for what)--something like a brief suspension or something. He stays on the force.Case closed.
Todd and Sarah aren't happy about this. They hire a private detective.
Sarah becomes governor, Todd first Dude.
Then Todd askes Moeghan to look over his PI file, compare it to the Trooper investigation to make sure "nothing had been missed"
MOneghan does so and two day later tells Todd that there was nothing new and the case was closed.
Then Sarah calls Moneghan, just to discuss Wooten. Moneghan says you know we can't discuss this.
Then just about every memeber of Sarah Palin;s staff ( about 6 of them) press him on Wooten and he tells them all as they should damn well know, that any such conversations would be 'discoverable' and that there were no firing offenses and the case was closed...
UNLESS said Moneghan you want to charge Wooten with killing the moose without a licence, but then that would bring Palin;s dad into it as he'd help butcher the moose and transport etc and Wooten and a ew other people involved too.
Nope, they just wanted Wooten.
Other charges against Wooten like dropping his kids of at school in a cruiser turned out to be with permission of his supervisor.
The Palins made accusations which were proven crap and the oone issue they could stick Wooten on involeved the Palins themselves too.
Still Todd and Sarah had their staff continue to hassle Moneghan (and his own staff) about Wooten.
It was a personal vendetta and they used the Governor's Office and it's implied and real powers to conduct it.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:47 pmI was always taught that vacuums sucked.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:48 pmtarazan ,
That's pretty simple. Would you go along with a partisan witch hunt as a Governor?
I didn't think so...
October 10th, 2008 at 9:48 pmIt looked like a gym rally in a high school smelling of dirty jock straps….ew….
Like his campaign: return to 1954.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pmO....B.....A......M......A........L......A....N....D....S.....L.....I....D......E......
October 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pm10 republicants and 4 Democrats is a partisan witch hunt against a GOPig Governor? You're desperate and stupid.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pmNote to Tim Viculik...go read the PDF (the link is up there).
October 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pmwell, we know how 'vaculips' got its name...
can't say i missed the stoopid ... it could go away for good...
the lack of troolls has been like the fresh air of this early fall...
October 10th, 2008 at 9:50 pmsatirev,
That's pretty rich! Conservatives can't hold a candle to the left when it comes to threatened violence.
Go do a simple search on Google...
October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pmThat’s pretty simple. Would you go along with a partisan witch hunt as a Governor?
I didn’t think so…
Would you go cruising airport men's rooms if you were a US Senator?
Please.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pmmcPALIN statement: the dems did it!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pmPalin initiated the "witchhunt" Tim.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:53 pmI will take you people seriously when you apply the SAME STANDARD to Obama that you want to judge McCain and Governor Palin by.
Until then, I'm just havin' a little fun with a bunch of left-wing HYPOCRITES on this blog.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:54 pmC'mon Tim, admit that the real reason you support Palin is the M<I<L<F factor.
To be aroused by her sensuality would only be natural - for a disfunctional dweeb.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:55 pmHeck no! I will have a lot to do re-arranging my assets to protect them from the socialists. hehehehe
Don't worry, cupcake. I don't think anyone will foreclose on that cardboard box you call "home".
October 10th, 2008 at 9:56 pmOne last thing you morons forgot - how many of those Republicans on the witch hunt received donations from the oil companies, hmmmm?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:56 pmHey, McNumbNuts. How's that veep-vetting working out for you?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:56 pmoh boy,
the desperate trolls
are finally back!
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thank you.
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more please.
:)
October 10th, 2008 at 9:57 pmNo, thats just your opinion fooling you.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:57 pmTim Vaculik Says:
One last thing you morons forgot - how many of those Republicans on the witch hunt received donations from the oil companies, hmmmm?
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don't you know?
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October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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tarazan ,
That’s pretty simple. Would you go along with a partisan witch hunt as a Governor?
I didn’t think so…
October 10th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I'm positive you felt the exact same sentiment for Bill Clinton , and were just as vociferous as you are here , shitstain ............
October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pmTim Vaculik
October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pmJohn mccain has poopie pants and sarah palin has cooties.
Do you understand that?
Tim Vaculik Says:
One last thing you morons forgot - how many of those Republicans on the witch hunt received donations from the oil companies, hmmmm?
None.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pmOne last thing you morons forgot - how many of those Republicans on the witch hunt received donations from the oil companies, hmmmm?
Todd Palin made 94k a year working for them.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pmtom,
Unlike a lot of the folks Democrats got into houses, I am PAYING for my two story in the country.
It isn't easy by any means. Maybe I shoulda painted my face black and got a liar loan, huh?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pmIt isn’t easy by any means. Maybe I shoulda painted my face black and got a liar loan, huh?
Use Tide, to get those pesky bloodstains out, and make your sheets the whitest white!
October 10th, 2008 at 10:00 pmSarah, I can see the end of your political career from my house!
October 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pmXisithrus,
Well, you know what they say about opinions...
At least I know I'm expressing one.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pmSince old Johnnie Mc finally had to tell one of his supporters today, that no, Obama was NOT AN ARAB, and that he was a decent person and family man to boot. I think that the new fascist racist Republican balloon will be quickly deflating... Our middle-aged Mrs. Moose-stepping Brown-Skirt will thus be left to being hung out to dry... Maybe old Johnnie Mc will finally realize that he will lose in November and try to go out with a little style and dignity (we can dream, can't we?)...
October 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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tom,
Unlike a lot of the folks Democrats got into houses, I am PAYING for my two story in the country.
It isn’t easy by any means. Maybe I shoulda painted my face black and got a liar loan, huh?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I'm as "far left" as it gets ; and I've owned my own 3 story home in a section of the US your stupid rube ass could never afford . Modeling your useless existence after McDepends and Chimpy are ya' , underachiever ?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:02 pmIt isn’t easy by any means. Maybe I shoulda painted my face black and got a liar loan, huh? -Tim
I find that your posts are absent of facts. Liar loan or not the investment bank got what they wanted - the asset.
The 'black' or 'poor' or 'underwater' person doesnt hold the title.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:02 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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Xisithrus,
Well, you know what they say about opinions…
At least I know I’m expressing one.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Would be nice if you could use something other than what it is that is stated alongside "opinion" that everyone has while expressing yourself...........
October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pmHmmm. You folks ain't half as bad as I expected. I've only been insulted once or twice and my mama hasn't been brought into it.
Too bad you won't extend the same courtest to someone else you have never met and do not know personally - Governor Palin.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pmThats fine that you express your opinion, but you should put "I think" in front of it.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pmAt least I know I’m expressing one.
Pat Buchanan wants it back.
He only said you could borrow it.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pmWhen scarah goes on SNL (if she does now) they can
October 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pmdress her up in a KKK outfit with her glasses on the
outside of her hood with a big mccain/palin sticker on her
chest.
Monegan may get himself a "golden parachute" Sarah may have given him a cause of action for damages for wrongful termination. It is enough to make out a case for Monegan if the refusal to terminate the trooper was a "substantial" or "motivating factor" in her descision to terminate him. Methlin v. Bartholomew (Alaska 1998) 971 P.2d 151 at page 154. And there are lots of similar cases.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pmSarah Palin will be working full time for Faux on November 5th, 2008
October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pmI am PAYING for my two story in the country.
I am impressed, pant-load! I didn't realize that they were stacking mobile homes now.
Regarding your snide comment about painting your face black and getting a liar loan, you just exposed yourself as a racist and idiot, skid-mark.
Perhaps you are not aware that most "bad" mortgages are occurring in suburban and ex-urban areas -- not the inner city. Predatory lending is an "equal opportunity scam", sweetpea. And much of it is not even the result of home purchase; it is also the result of re-financing by consumers of all shapes, sizes and colors who have been propping this economy up by living beyond the means of their current incomes for years.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pmI have extended that same courtesy to you and Palin not knowing either of your personally, once again your opining and it seems your trying to stick that opinion on others as some sort of truth, when its not. W
October 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pmRichardfromHB Says:
Monegan may get himself a “golden parachute” Sarah may have given him a cause of action for damages for wrongful termination.
Do you have a legal background?
Check post #27.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pmWhy, I was only unethical---and I did it for Tara..uuh--- the children.
Back of hand to forehead. Turn face away from the camera as if avoiding shame. Bite knuckles.
Betcha' she goes Scarlet O'Hara over this. If someone in the press would do us the honor of playing Rhett Butler, it would make me very happy.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Hmmm. You folks ain’t half as bad as I expected. I’ve only been insulted once or twice and my mama hasn’t been brought into it.
Too bad you won’t extend the same courtest to someone else you have never met and do not know personally - Governor Palin.
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have you ever made love
to governor palin?
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didn't think so.
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October 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pmMCMetal,
You actually PAID for your houses? What a putz...
October 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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Hmmm. You folks ain’t half as bad as I expected. I’ve only been insulted once or twice and my mama hasn’t been brought into it.
Too bad you won’t extend the same courtest to someone else you have never met and do not know personally - Governor Palin.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Which makes perfect sense , seeing as how she has extended that same exact courtesy to Barack Obama ; someone whom she has never met nor knows personally ..............
You are such an atypical GOP stooge .
Boy , I truly wish I could buy you for what you're truly worth ; and turn around and sell you for what you believe yourself to be worth.
I'd be able to afford the same number of houses that McDepends has and lose count of them , too........
October 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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MCMetal,
You actually PAID for your houses? What a putz…
October 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pm Yup
Over a decade ago.
They are now worth more than 2 times what I paid for them.
Not a financial expert , are you , dipshit ?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pmWhen scarah goes on SNL (if she does now) they can
dress her up in a KKK outfit with her glasses on the
outside of her hood with a big mccain/palin sticker on her
chest.
I am expecting her to veer off-script and say: "I may not deliver my lines the way that the writers wrote them or the way that main-stream entertainment wants me to, but I'm gonna talk directly to the hockey moms and Joe six-packs of America, dontcha know. You betcha!"
October 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pmTim, I dont watch TV or listen to pundits for that very reason - preconceived notions.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pmPalin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
Palin is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and FRAUD.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:10 pmANCHORAGE, Alaska (Oct 10) - Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain's Republican ticket.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008/10/panel-finds-palin-abused-power.html
October 10th, 2008 at 10:10 pmXisithrus,
O.K., sometimes we all use broad brushes when we paint, sorry.
It's just that the vicious, personal, ugly attacks being made on two good people are sickening to read and reveal the true character of those who make them.
It was fun kids, but I have to go and check my 401k. Have fun at your circle jerk!
October 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pmTim Vaculik Says:
satirev,
That’s pretty rich! Conservatives can’t hold a candle to the left when it comes to threatened violence.
Go do a simple search on Google…
Who is this idiot? His mommy must be out on a date or something. Hey timmy, google tim mcvieh, idiot. As far as proving facist barbie is a liar, explain how she can be against earmarks when she took the money for the bridge to nowhere, and hired an abramoff lobbyist to rake in 28mill for her collection of trailers masquerading as a town. idiot.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pmccokz Says:
A little late to the party there, cc.
We're past 140 Palinposts...
October 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pmI am wondering what you expected and hope you are willing to describe what you envisioned.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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I am PAYING for my two story in the country.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Which country ?
Alaska ?
Tool............
October 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pmHave fun at your circle jerk!
Racism and homophobia go together like PB&J.
Have fun in that decepit dingy you call an intellect.
But don't lean too far...
October 10th, 2008 at 10:16 pmToo bad you won’t extend the same courtest to someone else you have never met and do not know personally - Governor Palin.
Tim Vaculik
Palin is way out of her league; she's not capable of governing this country. She should go back to Alaska and hopefully face impeachment.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Xisithrus,
O.K., sometimes we all use broad brushes when we paint, sorry.
It’s just that the vicious, personal, ugly attacks being made on two good people are sickening to read and reveal the true character of those who make them.
It was fun kids, but I have to go and check my 401k. Have fun at your circle jerk!
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say hi to your
"mama" for me.
:)
October 10th, 2008 at 10:18 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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It’s just that the vicious, personal, ugly attacks being made on two good people are sickening to read and reveal the true character of those who make them.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
2 minutes ago , you were chastising everyone here for not being "courteous" towards Bible Spice , claiming we were being unfair because we didn't "know her" and have never "met her" ; are we to believe your stupid partisan ass travels in the same social circle(s) as McDepends and Caribou Barbie ?
Get lost , you hypocritical moron...........
October 10th, 2008 at 10:19 pmBe the bigger person Tim.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:19 pmXisithrus Says:
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Xisithrus, O.K., sometimes we all use broad brushes when we paint, sorry.
It’s just that the vicious, personal, ugly attacks being made on two good people are sickening to read and reveal the true character of those who make them.
Be the bigger person Tim.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Too late
The turd revealed his partisan and hypocritical nature by lauding 2 deceitful morons as "good people" when he has never met either nor knows either one of them personally , after chastising everyone for saying unflattering things about Bible Spice based upon the same conditions ...........
October 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pmI know, Tim, it's a world of hurt right now for you grasping, pathetic 23%ers. But you need to brace yourself, Tim, because every direction is downhill from here for your precious GOP. The party of hypocrites, liars, thieves and perverts will be smashed on November 4th, and will enter into a political twilight that may well be permanent. Not to mention those pesky indictments, once DOJ gets straightened out.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pmJust the other day I was making vicious, personal, ugly attacks on someone who organized death squads and took the Salvador Option to Baghdad; and some nameless, faceless person I've never met who hires mercenaries to massacre villages that don't want to relocate for a pipeline.
I hate myself.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:29 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Just look at teachers.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Tim,
October 10th, 2008 at 10:30 pmI take a bit of offense at that.
My spouse has been a teacher. She still does volunteer work at learning to read.
After she first retired, a teacher at a nearby school developed acute kidney disease. Said spouse was asked to sub and agreed. It turned out to be a job that lasted until the end of the school term. On the last day, as she was packing up her stuff, she heard little second grade voices singing "We love you Mrs. TheMan." and the entire class walked in with their mothers in tow. She received some nice mementoes that she keeps to this day. Also a video tape that throws her into tears whenever she watches it.
From what I heard on MSNBC tonight, Monehan CAN sue her...she can even be up for impeachment.She lied and violated the public trust of the people of Alaska....not good.Considering she's been going after Obama regarding whether or not he could be trusted, just kind of blew up in her face! What good is she now? Interesting turn of events.They need to own this whole thing. Lock, stock, and barrel.Will be the talk of the rest of the election.Maybe she can plan on packing up and dealing with the muck she's created in Alaska...seems everywhere she goes,S@#t follows...they haven't even touched the story of her owing back taxes of $25,000...that's what "NO VETTING" will get you:)Not a good day for the McCain/Palin campaign.They deserve what they get!
October 10th, 2008 at 10:37 pmI swear to god I'll buy someone a Ferrari if they can convince me (and I promise to be reasonable) how 10 Republicans and 4 Dems is partisan AGAINST Palin?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:53 pmscytherius,
October 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pmThat requires a Vulcan mind warp, or a total loss of reason!
Where can I pick up my Ferrari?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:00 pmscytherius Says:
I swear to god I’ll buy someone a Ferrari if they can convince me (and I promise to be reasonable) how 10 Republicans and 4 Dems is partisan AGAINST Palin?
Well, I suppose its because Palin fought corruption [supposedly] in her own ranks, which makes [weird logic] those republicans non republicans...
So, I speculate.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 pmWow. Missed the troll. But this one was actually articulate... not the usual mouth breather.
As for the integrity of two people I have never met... McCain and Palin...
Actions speak louder than words. They can spin and justify just about any of their actions, but many people see them for what they are.... Typical lying repubs that can't run on the issues so they have to smear Obama with Willie Horton type crud.
I'm voting for the smart guys this fall. The constitutional lawyer and not the "maverick" that cheated on his first and second wives ... (remember when "Character" mattered to the Republicans? Oh that's right, it only matters if a Democrat has an affair and is running for high office).
October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 pmTim Vaculik
had to leave us.
he's going into
his fourth hour
and he's has to
call his doctor.
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pray for him.
viva viagra.
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October 10th, 2008 at 11:06 pmI apologize if you have already seen this - we all need to laugh once in awhile.......
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=7DIc8jdra0o&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_27785
October 10th, 2008 at 11:07 pmoops - all get back with that link
October 10th, 2008 at 11:09 pmOkay - trying again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DIc8jdra0o&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_27785
October 10th, 2008 at 11:10 pmscytherius: I swear to god I’ll buy someone a Ferrari if they can convince me (and I promise to be reasonable) how 10 Republicans and 4 Dems is partisan AGAINST Palin?
OKay. Palin knocked out the incumbent Repub. and got the Governorship.
She hired her cronies, spent most of her time at home and all the remaining Rs had to kowtow to her while doing most of her job. AND they had to tolerate Todd Palin in official meetings.
Then Palin gets to run for VP and becomes a media sensation and talks a lot of brainless crap, you betcha.
So all the established Republicans hate her effing guts for being a successful idiot carpetbagging interloper, ergo their hatred is partisan.
Can I have an Aston Martin instead? Thanks! ;)
October 10th, 2008 at 11:23 pmThe report also illustrates what we've known all along: this was a partisan led inquiry run by Obama supporters...
Wasn't this investigation started BEFORE Palin was selected as the Republican VP?
F ucking liars.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:25 pmZooey Says: F ucking liars.
also fornicating ejaculators of terminological inexactitudes!
October 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pmI can't wait for the Sunday talkers trying to spin this, and the death threats, and Flippy McSpin getting booed for saying Sen. Obama is "decent", and why Bible Spice is unable to answer questions at this time and the polls and...
And then we get to see the heads of all those too unsavory for a Sunday show on Monday. I can hardly wait for that vapid bimbo on Fox and Friends, the other bimbo, and that wretched Gretchen Carlson. Even if Flippy and Chippy win, leading to our country being taken over by mold and fungus, we are going to see some of the most hilarious spin-jobs in political history. And Bill0 or Shamitty might have an aneurysm!
October 10th, 2008 at 11:36 pmWasn’t this investigation started BEFORE Palin was selected as the Republican VP?
Good evening Zooey. Boy, it's getting hard to keep up with the decay of the GOP/Jebus/Chippy/Flippy campaign. And you are correct. The investigation started months before anyone outside Alaska had ever heard of the Bimbo Borealis(TM).
October 10th, 2008 at 11:43 pmPete - they will not win - they might steal it, but there is no possible way they will win. And if another election is stolen I think finally the people will take to the streets and leave their shaky comfort behind.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pm5th Estate Says:
also fornicating ejaculators of terminological inexactitudes!
October 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Yeah, you betcha. ;)
October 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pmHello, pete.
How do you like that troll?
He comes around here and makes snide and racist comments, implying that people who are not him don't pay for our homes (and that one must apply black face to get a loan), and then runs off crying cuz we were mean to him.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:47 pmStapleton failed to respond to the findings. Nobody was charging that Palin lacked to authority to fire a Cabinet member, even for no reason at all. The charge was that she abused her power as Governor by pressuring subordinates to fire Trooper Wooten. The report found her guilty of that charge and said she also violated State ethics laws with her action. The report received a unanimous vote.
The next move should be up to the ethics committee on what action, if any, to take in regard to these serious charges. My guess, though, is that nothing can/will happen before November 4th.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:49 pmTim Vaculik Says:
If all the truth that’s coming about about Obama’s intimate connection with terrorists won’t get the McCain campaign any traction, then this revelation about Governor Palin won’t get the Democrats squat either.
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What you call truth is a bunch of lies and spin you are a liar and a fool. Take that ignorance to FreeRepublicansewer.Moron
October 11th, 2008 at 12:31 amTim Vaculik Says:
The Governor HASN’T been trying to “hide” anything, unlike Obama who has been caught in lie after lie after LIE about his past. Talk about issues of trust.
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Baloney and baseless idiocy. You are a liar and a fool.
If you were honest, you would admit that if Senator McCain had ANY one of the associations Obama has, he would have already been crucified and had to drop out of the race!
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Ludicrous, McStroke-eye has plenty of baggage and it has hardly been talked about the media LOVES McMoron. You are a liar and a fool.
Admit it. The press as well as Democrats, progressives and assorted radicals DON’T CARE about the obvious character issues raised by Obama’s past, not to mention his current associations with America haters of all stripes.
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A weak attempt at a baseless smear mostly weak because you are ignorant and weeks behind the power curve there isnt any character issues involved and all his associations have been beaten to death by the media as weak as they are you are a liar and a fool
It’s enough to make me retch.
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That make us even your stupidity always makes me sick, did I mention you were a liar and a fool?
October 11th, 2008 at 12:37 amTim Vaculik Says:
Dr. Hussein Matt,
Heck no! I will have a lot to do re-arranging my assets to protect them from the socialists. hehehehe
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By which you mean you will finally clean those blowup dolls you keep in the closet of your mommys basement where you live and rearange their order on the shelf. You are such a punk
October 11th, 2008 at 12:41 amTim Vaculik Says:
Dr. Matt,
O.K., big mouth. Why don’t you give some proof where the Governor lied how she is a hypocrite, and what makes here a “fraud”
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Since when do hivemind morons like you recognize facts. To YOU a fact is whatever your Limborg master TOLD you to believe. You wingnut idiots react to facts about like a vampire reacts to sunlight.
Oh, I forgot. Democrats and their ilk have no use for the facts. If reality conflicts with their worldview, then it is the facts that must be altered to fit the SITUATION.
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PURE projection facts have a well known liberal bias. By facts I mean the dictionary definition that is tangible evidence about circumstances that exist or an event that has occurred instead of the wingnut definition what Limbaugh or Hannity TOLD me to think. You are palpably stupid
October 11th, 2008 at 12:47 amTim Vaculik Says:
That’s pretty rich! Conservatives can’t hold a candle to the left when it comes to threatened violence.
Go do a simple search on Google…
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You are SUCH a liar and unbelievably ignorant. Cough up an example of a liberal spokesperson who advocated murdering a Supreme Court Justice like Gangleskank Coulter of dropping daisy cutters at random in the middle east or that we should televise torture as a spectator sport or beat comservatives with baseball bats like the creature ANN has. Or that we kill one hundred million Muslims like the Wienerdog Savage. Only a brainwashed moron could take that statement seriously. You are a liar and a fool
October 11th, 2008 at 12:51 amTim Vaculik Says:
Until then, I’m just havin’ a little fun with a bunch of left-wing HYPOCRITES on this blog.
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No you arent you are lying, trolling, parading your ignorance and basically acting like the loaf you are
October 11th, 2008 at 12:54 amTim Vaculik Says:
It’s just that the vicious, personal, ugly attacks being made on two good people are sickening to read and reveal the true character of those who make them.
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Said the PUNK who slandered Obama. You are an ignorant piece of garbage.
It was fun kids, but I have to go and check my 401k. Have fun at your circle jerk!
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Yeah go break your piggy bank and count your nickles
October 11th, 2008 at 1:00 amMcCain spokeswoman Meg Stapleton released this statement:
Today's report shows that the Governor acted within her proper and lawful authority in the reassignment of Walt Monegan. The report also illustrates what we've known all along: this was a partisan led inquiry run by Obama supporters and the Palins were completely justified in their concern regarding Trooper Wooten given his violent and rogue behavior.
My word, I certainlyhope they can prove that in court, because it certainly looks like the McCain campaign just libeled a private citizen. And if they did, hoo, boy. Wooten isn't a public figure by any stretch of the imagination, so the laws concerning libel, and defamation of character are much more protective of his rights as a private citizen.
I see a big settlement coming for Wooten - and it will come right out of what's left of the McCain campaign coffers.
October 11th, 2008 at 1:04 amThe Alaska report found the Gov. Palin "Abused her power and violated the public trust." And Palin wants America to believe Obama can't be trusted?
October 11th, 2008 at 6:18 amThe McCain campaign blamed the whole mess of Wall Street on Obama,although it is well known that the financial gambling barons on Wall Street were encouraged by lack of regulations which McCain and his buddy ex- Senator Graham granted them in legistlations they sponsered and passed in the Senate.
Now McCain camp is blaming this damaging report about governor Palin on Obama again.
October 11th, 2008 at 8:32 amAlthough the majority of the commission are Republicans,and the investigation started even before Sarah was selected as Vice President,there was no hesitancy on the part of McCain's camp to blame Obama for this report.
Do the handlers in McCain's camp think that people are so stupid to believe such accusations?
ClusterTim Says:
flagged for repeated spamming.
October 11th, 2008 at 9:55 amTim Vaculik Says:
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tom,
Unlike a lot of the folks Democrats got into houses, I am PAYING for my two story in the country.
It isn’t easy by any means. Maybe I shoulda painted my face black and got a liar loan, huh?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse I don't know if this troll is coming back, but a word to the wise: People around here are relatively tolerant of trolls, but once you start spouting bigotry you're dead in the water.
tony and lido
October 11th, 2008 at 10:22 am
WaltTheMan,
No offense intended. What I was referring to was the inability to actually fire tenured teachers due to their strong unions.
There are countless stories of teachers who absolutely needed to be terminated, but were successful in remaining employed due to rules promulgated by teachers unions, etc.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:47 amLibertyLover,
I won't be very far away, but I don't have a lot of time to argue with folks who already have their minds made up.
Your point is taken, but I will repeat my challenge of yesterday: I will take you people seriously when you apply the SAME STANDARD to Obama that you want to judge McCain and Governor Palin by.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:53 amWe will take you seriously when you apply the SAME STANDARD to mccain and bible spice that you apply to Obama.
This thread points out bible spices hypocricy, that is what we will be talking about here today. Join the discussion or go away, your choice. You don't get to dictate the terms here.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:00 amLet's talk a minute about the definition of a "troll" when it comes to blogging.
To simply label anyone who goes against the "politics" of a majority of posters DOES NOT make a person a "troll".
Here's the definition of a "Troll" from Wiki:
"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."
The key phrase here is "...with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response." This means, my friends that if I qualify then a lot of YOU qualify as well!
I'll just say for what it's worth that I spend a majority of time I post on blogs attempting to ENGAGE others with different opinions, not provoke them by making obvious personal attacks.
I invite any of you who have open minds to scroll back now and look at the various posts addressed to me... See any "trolls"??? I do.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:00 amTim Vaculik Says:
I have flagged your posts for racism. You should leave while you are ahead.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:02 amFurther:
"...controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages"
hmmmm. Have my posts been far afield? Not any more than others I see here.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:02 amTim Vaculik Says:
We don't need your definitions. You are a troll. If you want to be taken seriously you should be begging forgiveness for your racial slurs on a progressive board.
flagged.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:06 amlol
This Tim Vacculink dude is providing a public service
He is demonstrating the ignorant racism of the typical right wing moron.
He is unwittingly helping the Obama/Biden cause by showing the people that read these discussions how silly and stupid a person looks trying to defend the McCain/Palin ticket.
Undecides, take note. You do not want to be 'that guy'.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:07 amEugeneDebs,
I can see by your responses I'm getting to you, but you'll have to clean up your act quite a bit if you even care to engage...
BTW... Bite me!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:08 amFred,
O.K., since you are obviously a person who is completely unbiased and fair-minded why don't you explain where I made a "racial slur?"
You can't do it.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:09 amFred,
Yeah, well. I reported you for abuse. Nana Nana bo boooo!
Boo Hoo!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:12 amHey Fred,
Get a grip dude. I'm not trying to "dictate terms" here, only express an opinion.
Now you on the other hand...
October 11th, 2008 at 11:13 amHey FREDDIE, HELLO?
Try not to mis-quote me at a minimum OK (post #194)
Moron
October 11th, 2008 at 11:14 amTim Vaculik Says:
Ok Timmy, how honerable is palen and how is she going to be a reformer when she has just been proven to be just the opposite by a board with a majority republicans sitting in?
October 11th, 2008 at 11:20 amBack on topic, which is why I logged in this morning.
First of all, Governor Palin isn't guilty of the things she's accused of here because she has never lied about it or put forth a standard of conduct she doesn't follow herself.
Now, what the report ACTUALLY says is being mis-construed by most of you here, that's a given. Reasonable people and lawyers will disagree. The legislative panel rendered their OPINION, which isn't the same thing as a court verdict by a long stretch. With respect to the ethics statute, it is questionable that her actions meet the standard required for a violation.
She was absolutely within her rights to terminate that guy. Period, end of story.
Now, I will admit that she let her personal bias affect her decision. So what? That's not an ethical violation per se, it happens all the time in government and private business.
You folks who are excoriating her for this are simply being hypocritical yourselves for not doing the same when it comes to the outright LIES being told by your hero.
Like I said before, I got your number. I know that a lot of what I read here is just overheated rhetoric - something the left is very, very good at!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:25 amFred,
O.K., one can question the Governor's judgement in all of this, but it is not something that rises to the level a lot of folks are ranting about here.
Further, It is very frustrating that the MSM refuses to go after Obama like they should. They are in the tank for him.
One last thing, I don't mean to personally offend by expressing my opnion nor do I harbor any personal animosity toward anyone here.
Gotta go.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:31 amTo set the record straight here, and then I'll let you two to fight it out; The panel said the Governors office followed a proper format in the firing, but in no way did it ethically and in no way is she exonerated. Both Monegan and Wooten have a good case for a major lawsuit against the Governor.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:40 amI knew you would have to run like the coward you are.
We question her judgement because she claims to be the great reformer.....how can she be both? She can't. She is a fraud, period.
As far as not wanting to offend, can you explain these comments by you:
note the racial slur in the last statement above.....you lied and said you didn't say any such thing....why am I not surprised.
following is more of your comments which you say are not designed to offend:
As far as the last one....you truly show your ignorance. Guess you missed the last fifety years of political history in our country.....you know the one that shows that the only people who have been assasinated in our country in the last 50 years are democrats and liberal....please leave before you embarrass yourself anymore.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:49 amMcCain-Palin’s campaign is in the toilet. The question now is how will they exit and be remembered - as someone who tried to focus on the economic wows with real solutions, or as someone who spent all of their time in negativity and divisions. I wonder which one will they choose.
I truly hope everyone will turn the page on this old dirty stale politics, and choose a better path. It's time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It's time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Obama-Biden in 08 and 2012 !
October 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pmThose attacking Senator Obama without cause-not even improbable cause, shows a staggering ignorance even on a sea of readily available facts.
So they go after Obama, an actual Constitutional scholar? Have they no sense of what that means? Does anyone currently _not_ know that Palin-McCain = Cheney-Bush in every important way? Do the trolls even understand the definition of fascism?
Unfortunately, McPalin's supporters unwittingly made important differentiations possible and in an open-minded, Internet world that can be risky. So, while her enablers figure their presence here is productive, it is not. They've only underscored why Liberals are and have been correct about the qualitative aspect of the Cheney-Bush dictatorship, thereby further sabotaging McCain's momentum and making his enablers look foolish.
When placed along side a theological national socialist, like Palin-who considers treasonous Dick Cheney a hero and Rev Muthee an inspiration-all of her unAmerican behaviorisms become explained-except of course to those in denial or engaged in willful distortions of the truth.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/finger_puppets.html
http://www.light-to-dark.com/sarah_cheney.html
October 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pmHey Freddie,
I have a shit-load of stuff to do. I have precious little time even on weekends, so don't waste my time.
If you want to debate - debate.
I'm working on my house today, so GMAFB...
October 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pmWhat's ironic in all this mess with the financial and banking sectors is that you folks are fixing to help elect the very people that caused it.
Don't worry, the MSM will be along later, although belatedly, to point out all the things the buried prior to the election. By then it will be too late.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pmReich-wingers on Faux already calling for civil war when Obama wins:
October 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Except for the fact that you've been on this thread for nearly 17 hours.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pmTim Vaculik Says: I have a shit-load of stuff to do. I have precious little time even on weekends.
Troll-to-English translation: I am so busy collecting aluminum cans all week and now I have to get to the recycling center to cash them in and then hop over to Liquor Depot to buy a case of Master Brew beer. Busy, busy, busy.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:02 pmYeah, give me a break, please and do something constructive for a change.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:35 pmTim is a racist moron, who doesn't own a home, probably beats his wife and most likely has a meth addiction. He is a pathetic waste of space and should do this country a favor and kill himself. Maybe when Obama is elected, he will. An added plus of an Obama election.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pmTim Vaculik Says:
EugeneDebs,
I can see by your responses I’m getting to you, but you’ll have to clean up your act quite a bit if you even care to engage…
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Really? And you see that HOW? With your amazing mind reading powers? Here is a clue you desperatly need since you are a moron, THERE IS NO SUCH THING. I amuse myself with racist morons like you. Nothing else. Go ahead and pretend I am the problem while YOU slander dems in general and Obama in particular. Let me translate from wingnutese for those who dont speak STUPID. WWWWAHAHHHHHHHHHHHH stop treating me the way I treat you WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. You are a liar and a fool. I will not accept your weak troll insults without tossing back the same and I couldnt care LESS what you think about it. You arent bright enough to condescend to me. I have an IQ that puts your little pea brain in the toilet.
BTW… Bite me!
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I dont DO requests especially from racist morons like you.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:19 pmTo TimNutsack
You DEFINITLY qualify as a troll you moron. Your posts are filled with insults to Democrats, on a liberal site, LIES about Obama and racism. You are a troll. Just come to terms with it.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pmTim Vaculik Says:
What’s ironic in all this mess with the financial and banking sectors is that you folks are fixing to help elect the very people that caused it.
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YOu are a liar and a fool and an ignorant hivemind moron who thinks things become true just because you repeat them endlessly. Deregulation was a GOP mantra you idiot. Just because the hateradio moron who does your thinking for you tells you what to believe doesnt mean WE believe anything an idiot like YOU tells us. That is YOUR side of the fence. My GOD you are ignorant
October 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmblue state bob,
Now we're talking! This is what I came to see! The vicious, over-the-top, spittle-strewn, hyperventilating SPEW!
Congrats, you win the prize. As I mentioned on another thread last week, I had always heard this blog was one of the worst when it comes to outright insanity, but I couldn't believe what I was hearing on the John Gibson Show.
You see, they often do a skit with posts from Thinkprogress. The call screener and John's sidekick, Angry Rich read actual posts from here and bring them to life with all the hate and emotions that the authors put into them!!!
It is a RIOT! I just laugh... my ... ass ...OFF listenting to these segments. You people are so far out there you don't even realize how you sound to rational, everyday folks.
Actually, despite the laughs I get, I still realize how sick some of you really are ... and you live and work among us. Kinda sad really.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pmtom,
What the hell is "Master Brew"? I'll have you know that I only buy the best beer!
I drink lattes too... does that get me into the club?
October 11th, 2008 at 10:57 pmHere's how you folks turn reality on its head:
Call Obama a liar = Slander
Call Palin a liar = Speaking the truth
I'm just getting warmed up...
October 11th, 2008 at 11:04 pmSorry, guess I'm still learning so here comes a question:
What the hell is a "hive mind?" Actually, it sounds kinda cool, like sci-fi.
Is it anything like the borg?
October 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pmTim Vaculik Says:
I drink lattes too… does that get me into the club?
I don't drink coffee, so what club are you referring to?
I've heard Hitler liked an occasional schnapps...
Does that make a drunk like me also a nazi?
By the way,brown isn't a good color for me...
October 12th, 2008 at 6:09 amWhat the hell is a “hive mind?” Actually, it sounds kinda cool, like sci-fi.
Is it anything like the borg?
Think Hitler's Germany, circa, 1939.
Helpful?
October 12th, 2008 at 6:11 amYour posts are racist, the one about putting on black face was just over the top. The fact that you watch John Gibson's show is a prima facie proof that you are a complete and utter moron.
You people have ruined this country and the stupidity, racism, arrogance, and cowardice you have shown....sorry, the time to be nice is way past. You are a horrible person and support the worst president in this country's history. The country would be better off without you sucking money out of this economy. As someone who lives and works in NYC, I am sick of supporting red state welfare queens like you.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:19 ambob,
How so? Let's start with this from wiki-
"Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups."
I can tell you that I have never been a racist and you simply have to accept that because you don't know me at all.
It's unfortunate that the mere mention of race gets one "branded" as a racist these days. I suppose you think Geraldine Ferraro is a racist as well? Not too long ago she simply made an observation about Obama that may very well be true and was excoriated and labeled a racist for that.
Each and every day, the left in this country prove that they are the LEAST tolerant of any group. Talk about trying to stifle free speech! The left is no more interested in dissent or free speech than Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Chavez, et al.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:39 pmbarfly,
Aw c'mon, I need a definition as you see it.
I thought about it after I made that post and realized that the reaction I'm getting here might be the best indicator of the "hive mind" mentality. I see it on a number of progressive blogs, but not all. I start expressing opinions and BANG! It's very much like walking unawares into a bee colony, an angry one at that!
My point? Most of the responses I've received here were based on EMOTION - instant, gut-level raw emotion. No thoughtful discourse, no questions, just almost instataneous stinging personal attacks on my character. Kinda like a bee hives response to PERCEIVED danger.
I'm certainly no threat to you folks so why do I get treated this way? Groupthink... Group Politics, a hive mentality!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:45 pmHey Bob,
Since you brought it up, which cities and states have the most people on welfare?
Here's a hint: it's not the so-called red states! Look at ANY city where the DEmocrats have been in power for some time and tell me again about red state welfare and crime!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:48 pmHey Bob,
Here's your basic problem. You stated in so many words that our great nation has been ruined and run into the ground. You are a pessimist, my friend.
I realize that we all resort to labels to try and make a point, but when you start talking about the country as a whole you simply can't ignore the contribution of people and politicians of ALL stripes to any problems you see.
Be honest, now. Tell me what you know about the Democrats in the U.S. Congress and Senate who BLOCKED any efforts by the Bush administration and members of their own legislative bodies to reign in the dangerously risky practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. You might start by recognizing how many times and by whom the alarm was raised. Hint, it wasn't Democrats!
Do you even care about history or know anything beyond what happened last week when you haeard about it from Keith Olberman of Jon Stewart?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pmTim:
Read this, you fool. Red States get a lot more in taxes than they pay in (besides being more crime ridden, higher divorce rates, fatter, basically bad at everything)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/11/wolcott200611
Were democrats clean in the financial collapse, no, but the GOP was much more involved and responsible. Try debating something you know something about, the financial collapse isn't one of them.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pmhttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html
Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
ooooppppssss!!!!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pmBob,
Denial isn't a river in Egypt - it's the state you're in...
October 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pmMatt,
I Read the article, but it doesn't go deep enough to explore WHY commercial banks made the loans in the first place. There were a number of factors, but a big one was the Community Reinvestmant Act passed during the Carter Administration and put on steroids by President Clinton. It is simply a matter of record and historical fact that most commercial lending institutions sucuumbed to the bludgeon applied by the Federal Government to change long-held, financially sound rules for lending.
When I mention the role of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, I'm not talking about the direct loans they made, but the fact they bought tremendous amounts of questionable loans from these commercial banks, re-packaged them into investments and sold them on Wall Street. Commercial banks were all too happy to make the loans because they had a ready market for them in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It's also a fact the these two GSE's had NO credit underwriting standards!
Tell me, what is you opinion of Alan Greenspan? Have you read the transcript of his testimony to the Senate bsnking committee (Democrat majority) in 2005 concerning the risk posed by Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac?
The point of all this of course, is that I'm trying to get you folks to see it wasn't the President's fault! C'mon! How many time did this and prior administrations try to warn Congress of impending disaster? AT LEAST THREE - 1999, 2002, and 2005.
Lastly, which Senator worked on a bill to provide desperately needed oversight for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - that's right JOHN MCCAIN.
Now I realize the truth and facts are just an inconvenient nuisance for some of you, but I'll say it again - you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Here’s how you folks turn reality on its head:
Call Obama a liar = Slander
Call Palin a liar = Speaking the truth
I’m just getting warmed up…
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Here is how your stupidity is paraded around because its more like
Palin is a liar. SHOW LIES
Obama is a liar, crickets chirping as to getting warmed up you were done long ago stick a fork in yourself I have a splendid suggestion where that fork can go.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:56 amTim Vaculik Says:
Sorry, guess I’m still learning so here comes a question:
What the hell is a “hive mind?” Actually, it sounds kinda cool, like sci-fi.
Is it anything like the borg?
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Its more like the LimBORG. None of you can think for yourselves or have ever had an original thought so the AM hateradio screechmonkeys do your thinking for you and you all chant the talking points in unison like a bunch of demented Myna birds
October 13th, 2008 at 6:59 amTim Vaculik Says:
Hey Bob,
Since you brought it up, which cities and states have the most people on welfare?
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Since you brought it up most BLUE states pay MORE in taxes than they get back in revenue and most RED states take in more in revenue than they pay in TAXES. That means most Red States are themselves on wellfare. Since most blue states have BIG populations that statistic is a lot more meaningful than the idiocy you tried to float.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:06 amTim Vaculik Says:
Bob,
Denial isn’t a river in Egypt - it’s the state you’re in…
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The state YOU are in is known as MegaSTUPID and the planet you live on is known as Planet Wingnut
October 13th, 2008 at 7:07 amOh TimmehNutsack. Are you REALLY trying this stupid meme. You really are assimliated into the Limborg and that is what he is telling his minions to think and regurgitate lately. Sure it makes sense that a program started in 1977 is suddenly the problem in 2008 what a moron you are. Especially since about 75 to 80% of the lenders WERENT UNDER CR which only applies to banks. Only the most ignorant of the moron set ever took that stupid meme seriously but you did your propaganda parrot duty and regurgitated it all over is anyway. Why not cut to the chase and just post BBAAAAAA like the brainwashed sheep you are we already KNOW the current talking points.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:11 amEugeneDebs,
Well your last post really shines a light on how much you actually don't know about the CRA and it's effects on the mortgage industry after all.
I guess the last resort of the ignorant is to shoot the messenger. Get a clue!
October 13th, 2008 at 9:27 pmAs I recall, the Legislative investigation did not say she stepped out of bounds by firing Moneghan. What they said was it was an ethical and statutory violation to have pressured him to fire Wooten. That is, they cited her for committing an entirely different act (pressuring to fire Wooten =/= firing Moneghan). So I don't see any actual contradiction here.
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