Top McCain adviser insults supporters: We’re not responsible for the ‘occasional nut.’
Top McCain adviser insults supporters: We’re not responsible for the ‘occasional nut.’
In recent weeks, Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) rallies have become increasingly hostile and divisive. Supporters have called Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) a “traitor,” yelled “off with his head,” and accused him of being a “terrorist.” After Obama criticized the McCain campaign for “riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division,” McCain adviser Nicolle Wallace attacked Obama for “insulting” their supporters:
Barack Obama’s assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people Obama called ‘bitter’ and attacked for ‘clinging to guns’ and faith. … Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that’s run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history.
Over the past couple days, however, the McCain campaign has slowly started to back away from these attacks; it now appears that the only people who can criticize McCain supporters are members of the McCain campaign. Today in the New York Times, McCain’s top adviser Mark Salter directly insults the senator’s supporters:
“I think there have been quite a few reporters recently,” said Mr. McCain’s closest adviser, Mark Salter, “who have sort of implied, or made more than implications, that somehow we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
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You reap what you sow, halfwit.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:58 pmI have news for this moron. These are not the people Obama insulted. These are the people Obama said are confused and dscouraged by the same old politics of the past that causes them to rely on guns, family and Bible issues because the same old politics doesn't offer change. If anyone on the right ever tells the truth, please let me know and I will listen to them. The fact of the matter is that for forty years the GOP has run on dirty politics, wedge issues, and lies. Look at what their majority has brought us. You like what Dubya and McSame have brought you, vote for McSame and it will get worse. You want change, vote for Obama.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:59 pmMark Salter: “I think there have been quite a few reporters recently,” said Mr. McCain’s closest adviser, Mark Salter, “who have sort of implied, or made more than implications, that somehow we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
No, you are responsible for responsibly objecting to the inflammatory remarks of the irresponsible people in your specially invited audiences!
If you don't want your campaign to be associated with such reckless supporters then McCain ans Palin should unequivocally say so.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:01 pm“I think there have been quite a few reporters recently,” said Mr. McCain’s closest adviser, Mark Salter, “who have sort of implied, or made more than implications, that somehow we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
When you incite hate, yes, you are responsible for the idiots that cannot think for themselves, who follow your lead and spout hate. You planted that garden and spread the bullsh!t to fertilize it, so it is your bitter fruit.
Deal with it.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pmOf course, you have to remember, Republicans are not responsible for ANYTHING.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:06 pmA female reporter whose name I can't remember said that all rallies have a bit of that fringe element but lately the crazies number at the M&P rallies has been racketing up
October 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pmHey Spencer's mom you live NE of town ? I went to Ursinus in Collegeville
GAME OVER.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pmwhat a reckless pilot
October 12th, 2008 at 3:12 pmmake that ratcheting
October 12th, 2008 at 3:12 pmOr to put it another way, guilt by association! Somehow a present connection with many people invited to McCain/Palin rallies over the past two weeks who shout "terrorist" and "kill him" without chastisement from the candidates is not a relevant connection to a candidate's character whilst a marginal meeting with former domestic terrorist decades later is deemed of present importance?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:13 pmThe old racist man waving a monkey with an Obama sticker around its head is not "the occasional nut" at McCains rallies. Here's what Ana Marie Cox had to say the other night on the Rachel Maddow show
Some colleagues of mine and I we went out in the crowd after this rally today. And I can tell you after covering McCain for a year and a half.. there's always some crazy people at rallies. That's what they do right they go to rallies but you would only find a few of them. But today every single person that I talked to, and a majority of my friends and colleagues in the press talked to, were of the belief that Barack Obama is a Muslim, Barack Obama is not American.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pmHere's the video of the old racist galmud mentions in #11:
Racism rears it's ugly head, again.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:21 pmWith so much at stake, and time running short, [Virginia Republican Party Chairman Jeff] Frederick did not feel he had the luxury of subtlety. He climbed atop a folding chair to give 30 campaign volunteers who were about to go canvassing door to door their talking points — for instance, the connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon," he said. "That is scary." It is also not exactly true — though that distorted reference to Obama's controversial association with William Ayers, a former 60s radical, was enough to get the volunteers stoked. "And he won't salute the flag," one woman added, repeating another myth about Obama. She was quickly topped by a man who called out, "We don't even know where Senator Obama was really born."
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 pmhttp://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/10/occasional-nut.html
The Right are just upset that they spent the years 2000-2006 conferring dictatorial powers on the President, only to see those powers in the hands of a Democrat. They think Obama will declare martial law and arrest all Republicans, and I damn well hope he does.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 pmgalmud Says:
That's the lady I heard as well
October 12th, 2008 at 3:25 pmMcCain would rather incite a riot than lose an election.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:26 pmAnyone who says they are "undecided" at this point should not be allowed to vote.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:31 pmDoesn't anyone find it odd that this kind of behavior has never occurred on either side before in our history.
It is so bad that mccain is even aware of the danger.
This is not the kind of change people are looking for.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:36 pmMcCain campaign managers acting as if they do not know why the nuts are behaving this way.
Managers are trying to tell us that they have no hand in this.
How can one believe them when Sarah Palin repeatedly questioned Obama's patriotism in her speeches and on television in many intreviews insinuating somehow that obama is working with terrorists.
Until this minute they are still making this link.
They cry daily that they want facts from Obama...as if Obama is hiding something regarding Ayers,when Obama was only 8 years old then the time Ayers was involved in illegal activities.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:41 pmI say to these managers, if you think that Ayers story will bring McCain the win he is looking for then,...Good luck.
But I doubt it..because people are tired of this type of campaigns when the country is in two prolonged big wars,and the economy is in big trouble, and the national debt is rising to new levels never seen before in US history,or even world's history.
On the other hand, admitting that their rally attendees are nuts is the first sign of cogent thought from the McCain campaign in at least a month.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:43 pmAccording to one reporter who Rachel Maddow interviewed the other night, all that comes to McCain/Palin rallies any more are the nuts. She called it "quite frightening".
And nowhere has Obama "insulted" McCain's supporters, he is insulting McCain for building his supporters into a hate-filled frenzy that quite likely is going to get someone hurt. The reporter on Rachel's show also said that she noticed that the McCain/Palin rallies are much smaller these days. Probably because the sane supporters are staying away because they are afraid they might get hurt.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:44 pmi remember an obama rally some months ago, 2 actually, where the crowd booed some comment, and obama quieted them with his hands and words... also, the rally where he gave those black protesters time to speak, asking them to let him finish...
they did, then continued to be rude, and were escorted out...
but he took control and set the tone himself.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:48 pmlurker Says:
Anyone who says they are “undecided” at this point should not be allowed to vote.
I so agree. Who are these people and why can't they make up their minds? Don't they have the capability to look at what each candidate has to say and decide which one is closes to their views and values?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pmThe Bottom line is that if you scratch the surface of your typical modern right wing republican you'll reveal a cauldron of hateful, narrow minded prejudice. That is McCain's base and that is all they have.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pmIt is not the occasional nut we see but rather the common variety righty nut that only occasionally overtly reveals his true self and once again it's that damn elite media that just insist on reporting the truth.
katy Says:
i remember an obama rally some months ago, 2 actually, where the crowd booed some comment, and obama quieted them with his hands and words… also, the rally where he gave those black protesters time to speak, asking them to let him finish…
they did, then continued to be rude, and were escorted out…
Of course, later, one of the protesters admitted that he was being paid to protest. The next thing the McCain campaign will do is to say that Obama is paying the people at the McCain rallies to say the awful things they are saying about him. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThat's good, that they at least have characterized these folks as "nuts". So, the ones who are too timid to yell out "treason", "terrorist",etc. , but think those things to themselves... they must be nuts too, right? They're just less vocal about it.
I mean, if it's not nuts to think it, but only to yell it, then they're only calling people nuts for speaking their mind.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:52 pmA guy asks a pointed question a little passionately of former presidential candidate John Kerry, at a speaking engagement... and they taser him, even while Kerry is saying "don't do this... I want to answer his question...". All he did was ask a question, and in no way was he inciting violence or suggesting anyone should be killed.
And all that becomes is a big internet joke. Where are the thugs with tasers when someone actually screams "kill him" about the opponent at a rally for a major party candidate for President of the U.S.?
October 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pmI can't wait for the debate next week. All the wheeles have
October 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmcome off the "hate talk express" and they are pushing it
down the road with sparks flying and Mccain yelling out the window "hurry up my diaper's full".
So, Salter is saying that a guilt-by-association argument is worthless.
I hope people continue to remind him he said this, again and again.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pm"somehow we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
Well that's just great.
Now they're denying all responsibility for either mccain OR palin.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pmOT
Hillary Clinton just gave a KICK ASS speech for Obama in Scranton, PA.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pm"Terrorist","traitor","kill him", and "off with his head". And to top it all off, the blatantly racist "He's an Arab" comment.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pmThe folks who say these things deserve to be insulted.
I am insulted by the fact that logical discourse seems to no longer be a part of the process of choosing who leads our nation.
.
R E M E M B E R:
It wasn't the Democrats that called Obama...
... A Halfrican!
It wasn't the Democrats that called Obama...
... Unpatriotic!
It wasn't the Democrats that called Obama...
... A Muslim!(btw, is being Muslim a bad thing?)
It wasn't the Democrats that refer to Obama...
... As a terrorist!
It wasn't the Democrats that call Obama...
... Osama!
It wasn't the Democrats that call Obama...
... Hussein!
It wasn't the Democrats that said Obama...
... Palled with terrorists!
It wasn't the Democrats that cried...
... Kill him!
.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:15 pmAny chance we can get the repubs to learn the definition of transferrence, countertransferrence and projection.
Rove says attack them on your weak point.
Now the crowd calls for Obama's assasination and that is Obama insulting the McCain crowd.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:22 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins,
I'm one of those undecided...
See, when I'm asked who I'm voting for and am only given two choices, Blue or Red, I immediately have to question...
... Why only TWO choices?
Obama
McCain
Undecided
But I see no choices for McKinney or Barr or Nader and so I choose, undecided. Clearly I'm not going to vote for a warmonger(read Blue/Red) or a charlatan that seeks to strip away my personal Liberty(read Blue/Red). So, what other choices do I have when I'm only given three options? I'm clearly NOT going to opt out... NO? But you know, in a REAL DEMOCRACY, ALL CHOICES would be offered and none would be withheld...
October 12th, 2008 at 4:30 pmGreat Non Sequitur comic today showing what Bush/McCain supporters are like.
http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/client/wpc/nq/
October 12th, 2008 at 4:30 pmOh, but they are responsible. McCain/Palin started it all with nasty smears & lies to provoke the anger in their supporters. Palin was the worst with her totally inflammatory comments; Cindy even joined in with her ridiculous remarks; McCain then added his own. The purpose of their dishonest comments was to bring out anti-Obama anger, and it worked very well. Only when they were highly criticized for their hate-inducing speeches did McCain suddenly decide he should do some calming- and that didn't work. Palin has yet to do anything to make up for her slurs & hate-mongering.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pmSo does that mean they are not responsible for Sarah Palin?
October 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm"...somehow we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
Well, who picked Sarah Palin for VP anyway?
October 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pmHow far do the Palin-nuts fall from the Palin-nut-tree? Not far, my friend, not far at all...
Thanks to constant deregulation by Bush, McCain and Gramm, thanks to Bush for zero oversight in the last eight years and thanks to the unlimited corporate greed of the stupid Wall Street pigs, we have a world-wide depression staring us in the face. Heck of job, morons. These fascist American clowns and criminals are a hundred times more destructive to America than al-queda and the so-called "terrorists."
October 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm"we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
October 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pmYou mean Sarah Pailin?
Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says
You know who is loving all this is OBL.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:00 pmMccain should have picked him for VP.
He knows how to win wars. (cheap too)
He knows how to fix our economy.
He knows how to get himself.
Any chance we can get the repubs to learn the definition of transferrence, countertransferrence and projection.
I think the campaign managers and PR personnel know this all too well, MapleStreet. They have engineered this witch-hunt. The idea that Obama is a terrorist would not be a talking point (once the name Hussein was explained carefully), had the Republican party not drudged up all these obscure charges and made so many intimations, and worked the crowds. This hysteria is the work of experts.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:09 pmkdoug Says:“we’re responsible for the occasional nut who shows up and yells something about Barack Obama.”
You mean Sarah Pailin?
Oh, SNAP! :)
October 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pmdasm Says:
Palin has yet to do anything to make up for her slurs & hate-mongering.
Good post -- Sarah Palin is a classic sociopath.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pmDavis today on Faux News Sunday ( defending McCain-Palin rally rhetoric): Where was John McCain when George Wallace was spreading his hate and segregationist policies at that time? He was in a Vietnam prison camp serving his country with his civil rights also denied."
Umm...anyone else have the time and inclination to tear this screed to shreds?--because I'm too busy laughing and crying at the same time!
October 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pmdasm Says: Palin has yet to do anything to make up for her slurs & hate-mongering.
McWars Says: Good post — Sarah Palin is a classic sociopath.
And thus will do nothing to make up for her slurs also. and her hate-mongering, also, you betcha.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:26 pmOT from the Darkside (redstate,org) here is their top thread"
My Favorite Oxymoron: Tolerant Liberals
There's Not Much Love for Free Speech, Either
There's no defending a comparatively few violent criminals who think molotov cocktails are an acceptable form of political expression. But what do you say about hundreds of liberal Democrats from one Maryland community who want to boycott a business whose owner dares to show his support for John McCain?
Well I say good for them.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pmI regestered to post there got my e-mail from them, but
when I try to login it just keeps going back to the login
screen. My e-mail adress has "windsurf" in it.
I wonder if they think I'm John Kerry?
lurker Says:
OT from the Darkside (redstate,org) here is their top thread”
I hope you used a great deal of brain bleach and brillo pads after letting the redstate pile of feces enter your brain.
That stuff rots the brain and is contagious.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:44 pm“Top McCain adviser insults supporters: We’re not responsible for the ‘occasional nut.’”
I have to agree with this staffer on this one.
The McNumbNuts campaign is not responsible for the occasional nut that show up at their rallies.
But it is responsible for the two usual nuts that always do . . . their names are John and Sarah.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:46 pmWayne Says:
That stuff rots the brain and is contagious.
I put on rubber gloves and wore eye protection.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:56 pmIt seems to be where the occasional nuts come from.
It will be interesting to see how the shriekers who lack the credibility for a Sunday show try to spin the last few days for the Chippy/Flippy campaign.
How long will they let Bible Spice flatly deny the Troopergate findings? Will anyone note that Flippy was booed for calling Sen. Obama "decent"? Will that assbag Rick Davis make the rounds calling on Obama to apologize for "attacks on McSpin's character"? Will Pat Robertson pray for an earthquake to level Philadelphia?
It's gonna be an interesting week that promises to make our existence even more surreal.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:03 pmurker Says:
Well I say good for them.
I regestered to post there got my e-mail from them, but
when I try to login it just keeps going back to the login
screen. My e-mail adress has “windsurf” in it.
I wonder if they think I’m John Kerry
Don't bother to post at redstate.com. If you post something contrary to their view, they will immediately ban you by your IP address. They go so far as to ban your ability to even view the site. When you are banned and you go to redstate.com, you get a blank screen. It happened to me within a half an hour of my polite post disagreeing with someone.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:07 pmlurker: (quote from RedState) But what do you say about hundreds of liberal Democrats from one Maryland community who want to boycott a business whose owner dares to show his support for John McCain?
Well I really don't know; I mean, what would one say about thousands of Fox viewers, Republicans all, "boycotting France" because Bill O'Reilly told them to, and then celebrating the success of their boycott with imaginary statistics form the imaginary Paris Business Review (tm-'Papa Bear' Productions)?
What would one say about thousands of Fox viewers, Republicans all, boycotting retailers large and small for their imagined "War On Christmas" on the say-so of East COast New York Elisits like O'Reilly and or or G
What does one say about
October 12th, 2008 at 6:07 pmdamn it! that slipped...anyway...it;s the community taking action, not being ordered to by a TV demagogue.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pmIt is amazing how the Republicans (Nicolle Wallace in this case) convert facts to fiction, black to white, night to day, and continue to lie with a straight face.
This was clearly a reference to McCain...not to his supporters.
I give up...every Republican spokes person and politician appears to be either corrupt or crazy.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pmMax-1 Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins,
I’m one of those undecided…
See, when I’m asked who I’m voting for and am only given two choices, Blue or Red, I immediately have to question…
… Why only TWO choices?
Obama
McCain
Undecided
But I see no choices for McKinney or Barr or Nader and so I choose, undecided. Clearly I’m not going to vote for a warmonger(read Blue/Red) or a charlatan that seeks to strip away my personal Liberty(read Blue/Red). So, what other choices do I have when I’m only given three options? I’m clearly NOT going to opt out… NO? But you know, in a REAL DEMOCRACY, ALL CHOICES would be offered and none would be withheld…
By all means, vote for McKinney if you want. But don't come here and complain about what is happening to this country if your vote (and others like you) gets McCain elected. You will have forfeited your right to complain by voting in a way that might end up with a very bad outcome.
I refuse to listen to people who voted for Nader in 2000 complain about what has happened to this country since it is their fault we ended up with Bush. If all the people in Florida who voted for Nader had voted for Gore, we would not be in the predicament we are in now.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:12 pmEvergreen2U Says: It is amazing how the Republicans (Nicolle Wallace in this case) convert facts to fiction, black to white, night to day, and continue to lie with a straight face.
And it is worth remembering that almost all of the media bobbleheads will likely still have their jobs in 2012.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:17 pmI'd say 90% of McPalin crowds are made up of said "nuts."
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
October 12th, 2008 at 6:18 pmPalin herself used the terrorist line, so apparently she too is an occasional nut.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:19 pmIt is, always, of course, the wackos clinging tightest to their guns and god who walk into churches and open up with shotguns...
October 12th, 2008 at 6:21 pmIf voting actually mattered, they'd never let you NEAR a ballot.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:22 pm5th Estate In phoenix they went crazy over the "Dixie chicks"
October 12th, 2008 at 6:22 pmthing. Arizona is RED I'm careful about what I say to people.
I was talking to a guy about nuclear power (which I support)
and he assumed I was a rep and started to tell me that there
should be a season on liberals.
But please, all you wackos, don't forget to vote. And make sure to have all your wacko friends vote too.
America needs your participation.
WilyTrax.com
October 12th, 2008 at 6:23 pm. . . but McCain is responsible for putting a mic into their hands.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:44 pmOccasional Nut?
October 12th, 2008 at 7:02 pmlurker...
October 12th, 2008 at 7:06 pmI'm in a Dem part of NJ but I am careful not to talk politics with anyone I don't know and even then I'm cautious--Ill talk "issue" rather than the political dimension of an issue. The price of gas and milk seems to be pretty safe territory. Blame and solutions are something else however! :)
i think it bears mentioning that ana marie cox reported the other day that a greater and greater proportion of the mccain supporters who show up at the rallies and events are apparent nut jobs. i wonder if this is representative of that portion of the population who presumably for some reason still says it will vote for mccain.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:06 pmTo the McCain camp, up is down and black is white. Period. Oh, and they are totally dysfunctional.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:10 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins,
What is demagoguery?
Bilbo Hussein Baggins wrote:
Sure, BLAME the theft of Florida on Nader voters...
Q U E S T I O N:
Who would you prefer I vote for so that YOU don't have an excuse to hang your hat on?
If I vote my conscious, I'm lambasted and chided for wasting my vote...
If I vote my conscious, I'm lambasted and chided for electing "The Other Guy"...
If I vote my conscious, I'm lambasted and chided for giving aid and comfort to your enemy...
Bilbo, why not just say the obviously ridiculous...
... "If all the people who voted for Bush would have voted for Gore..."
Bilbo, What good is calling America a Democracy when in fact(!) votes aren't counted properly, not ALL candidates are considered, and when individuals exercise their Constitutional Right to choose, they're ridiculed for their choices?
If you want a Government where there is only ONE choice for election... Well, America is NOT the country for YOU!!!
.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pmmore like assorted nuts.
^
October 12th, 2008 at 8:09 pmBarak Obama is half white and half black.
Why don't the Democratic pundits point this out????
October 12th, 2008 at 8:10 pmmotorfingaz,
October 12th, 2008 at 8:17 pmWhy does race matter?
It is more than just the "nuts", my wife and I had on Obama T-shirts on Saturday and one of these "nuts" screamed out his truck window, "Socialist Faggots, we are gonna kill all of you"....nice of him and brave too, I have arms the size of most peoples thighs, which I am sure he noticed as he drove away.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:21 pmAnother thing Johnny McCrazy doesn't understand:
The End.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:35 pmJohnny is running out of money. What does that tell ya? Oh that's right. The nuts are the only ones who are supporting McCain and those republicans who are sane and who have money are giving to Barack Obama's campaign instead!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:40 pmmotorfingaz Says:
Barak Obama is half white and half black.
Why don’t the Democratic pundits point this out????
Explain the relevance of this.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:19 pmThey ARE responsible for inflaming the low information/IQ voters like the two who asked questions in rural Minnesota last week. "Obama's an Arab, a muslim. How can I safely raise a child in an Obama let nation."
They reap what they sow.
I'm reminded of the Waco Kid's words:
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."
October 12th, 2008 at 9:22 pmJust saw a pickup with oversize American flag a-flyin', Confederate license plate, eight right-wing bumper stickers including "Bush-Cheney." These are the folks Nicole Wallace is defending; moreover, she's depicting them as victims. She's not carrying water for these troglodytes, she's cleaning their rifles for them. Shut the hell up.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:25 pm#84 Or maybe just explain what it is about this that seems to piss you off.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:25 pmBuckie Boy Says:
It is more than just the “nuts”, my wife and I had on Obama T-shirts on Saturday and one of these “nuts” screamed out his truck window, “Socialist Faggots, we are gonna kill all of you”….nice of him and brave too, I have arms the size of most peoples thighs, which I am sure he noticed as he drove away.
Buckie, was that in Washington State? I know you are or were from this area.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:27 pmDespite living in Michigan where supposedly Raisin McCain has pulled out, the m/p signs are popping up all over the place in my town. Frankly, I'm afraid that's due to the churches in my area overtly promoting the Repugs. (It is frightening to think how some people are so willing to be led by their noses instead of thinking for themselves.) Last presidential election I even had a young woman who was mildly mentally and physically handicapped-due to a car wreck- come to my house TWICE and ask me why I liked abortion because I had a Democrat yard sign in the front lawn and wanted me to remove it. When I asked her who put her up to it she said her pastor did! The sign stayed-obviously-and I told her finally in not a very nice way to never ask me that again. I do expect to get my house and car egged this year. What I am afraid of is that if this behavior escalates... well, who knows? These people are getting rabid with their fears and the repug candidates are doing virtually nothing to stop the fearmongering. I think I would rather go diving with sharks than go near a Palin rally right now.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:33 pm#84? Waiting.....
Hey, I know: explain what this has to do with ANYTHING.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:33 pmLeft Coast Mike Says:
Buckie, was that in Washington State?
Renton, was visiting some friends there.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:01 pmOne question which should be answered within the week is whether Flippy McSpin has any input with the campaign at all. If so, and if there is any honor left within him, we will see his surrogates and Bible Spice tone down the "terrorist" talk. If he's out of the loop and/or has lost his mind? We'll see an escalation of the hateful crap.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:03 pm97. pete: Bible Spice? That's priceless!
October 12th, 2008 at 10:07 pmMotorfingaz:
Okay, I get it. Your comment is relevant to this thread because you're one of the "occasional nuts."
Hey, are you the guy in the video with the monkey?
October 12th, 2008 at 10:08 pmI know it's hard to put your family at risk but I kinda got in a discussion in our local home town pharmacy the other day. I live in the reddest of the red states and they were just talking like everyone is a republican.
I debunked them on Ayres and then they tried to blame the economic collapse on the dems....debunked them on that. Next thing I hear is "Well I aint voting for no jigaboo" OMG. It stopped me in my tracks.
I haven't heard that since I was very young but it struck a nerve. The bad part was that everyone thought it was funny. I just paid my bill and told them I was tired of going backwards and left.
One guy followed me out and I thought I was in trouble but he apologized for the way things went and we started talking about things. In a short while there were 4 more of them who came out and joined the discussion.
I told them I was a little afraid to speak my mind and they told me that if more democrats presented their case as I had that maybe things wouldn't be so bad.
I left feeling like I had kinda stepped in it but came away without losing any hide.
We can't just be quiet. that's what they want us to do.
Most of the people who the republicans have fooled want many of the same things we do. What we are seeing at mccain rallies are extremists. People who spit on the ground when they hear the word liberal and they don't even know why, they have just been taught to hate.
The funny part was when I asked them things like "are you better off now...." "are we headed in the right direction..." Things like that, they agreed that the republicans had betrayed them but they have never been allowed to consider an alternative really........
It was an interesting experience. Not sure I'm willing to do it again but I probably will. We must.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:23 pmMotorfingaz doesn't seem to understand that just one drop of black blood makes you black. There are no white people. It's a lie they tell themselves.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:24 pmGOP Says Vandalism at Offices Prompts Beefed-Up Security
The Republican National Committee said it will spend $2 million to beef up security at campaign offices around the country in response to recent incidents of vandalism.
RNC Chairman Robert M. "Mike" Duncan said in a statement over the weekend that "violent intimidation tactics" have been adopted by some supporters of Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama.
Mr. Duncan cited a break-in at a McCain-Palin campaign office in Missouri and alleged harassment of campaign workers by members of Acorn, an advocacy group that promotes housing opportunities and voting rights for low- and moderate-income groups. Acorn staged a rally outside a McCain-Palin campaign office in Pennsylvania. "It was a peaceful rally," said Acorn spokesman Brian Kettering.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122384581686626811.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
1 million per incident... must be flush with cash...
October 12th, 2008 at 10:28 pmUmmm....
Does the "occasional nut" include the two at the top of the ticket?
October 12th, 2008 at 10:31 pmIs it just me or is McCain starting to get the Palin treatment from the media? By that I mean that it seems like the media (outside of Fox News of course) is at times embarrassed by the questions they have to ask of McCain. As you noted Pete, clearly these incidents beg the question of how much involvement McCain has in his own campaign (along with other issues that raise that point -e.g. earlier thread about N. Korea and Palin/McCain being on the wrong pages). But I get the impression that the media doesn't know how to handle the McCain campaign implosion. They always seem to apologize for him (e.g. McCain is not a racist but...). I get the feeling they are trying to convey the message that while he was once an honorable man (at least as they see it), he has lost his mind, and probably the election.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pmMeanwhile, from the article (and I apologize if this has been pointed out above):
In other incidents, a New Jersey school library removed a book on Sen. Obama from an election display after it was defaced with a drawing of a noose. Campaign officials took down an Obama billboard in Michigan after someone painted Ku Klux Klan and swastika symbols on it. In August, police said vandals broke glass windows and a door to an Obama campaign office in St. Paul, Minn.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:35 pmAs the election draws near, and it becomes increasing clear Obama is going to win, the true racist nutcases will be out in plain sight. Get ready to slap them down at every turn.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:42 pmmotorfingaz Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I think I'd rather point out that you're a stunningly moronic racist.
Dismissed.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:25 amIt's funny, I don't remember any of Barack's audience members shouting KILL JOHN MCCAIN!!! It probably has something to do with the sort of people that get attracted to conservative rallies.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:54 amSeems the McCain-Palin crowd is reduced to the kind of people you hope NEVER sit next to your kid on a bus or subway . . . .
October 13th, 2008 at 1:06 amRUCerious Says:
As the election draws near, and it becomes increasing clear Obama is going to win, the true racist nutcases will be out in plain sight. Get ready to slap them down at every turn.
Shyte yeah!
Sen. Obama is very intelligent, calm, rational and ready.
Every time the repugs throw mug at Sen. Obama, we get a beautiful eloquent speech from him.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:23 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
The people who blame Nader voters for Bush's victory in 2000 remind me of the right-wingers who blame Clinton for...well, everything. There seems to be little relevance to reality for either accusation. It always seemed obvious to me that Gore lost the 2000 election because of his stand-for-nothing and try-to-appease-everyone campaign strategies. Early in the campaign season Gore had a large lead in the polls and then he frittered this lead away through his ineptitude.
I could only shake my head in disbelief when I heard people asking for Gore to run again in 2008. Gore is every bit as much of a loser as is Kerry. Thank God, this time we have a real candidate running for President.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:57 amYeah and bush wasn't a loser at all, right?
Thanks for doing your part to get bush elected twice.
People who say voting for nader had no affect remind me of nader saying America had to hit the absolute bottom and then did his part to make that happen, just to make his point.
Oh, and nader took gop money to run against democrates. Yeah, nader's a heck of a guy, not.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:07 amThis great country of ours... will never be defeated from outside this country. We will, however, (and are, incidentally) destroy ourselves from the inside out.
McCain and Palin are dredging up the worst of us to do just that. How is that putting "Country First"?
And, taken to it's logical conclusion, if McCain wins in Nov. -- increasingly unlikely at this point--- how in the world will McCain be able to govern, how will he be able to heal the wounds that he has inflicted on his trip through the dark side?
October 13th, 2008 at 2:13 ammotorfingaz Says:
Barak Obama is half white and half black.
Why don’t the Democratic pundits point this out????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Um because anyone with EYES can see it? Because it couldnt possibly matter LESS except to racist morons? Because everyonewho hasnt been in a cave in Sri Lanka for the past years already KNOWS? Pick any of those reasons.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:20 amI suspect that somewhere along the way, as the likelihood of McCain winning the election, short of Bush declaring Marshall Law and appointing McCain, dim to invisibility -
October 13th, 2008 at 4:11 amThat Congressional Republicans, and McCain too, are looking at having to repair damages done to any cooperative and respectful relations with the Democrats, whether partywise or on individual levels.
As a party, the Repothugs have a lot of negative baggage already, inheriting a lynch mob from a failed McCain/Palin candidacy, is probably something they would like to avoid.
Fred says:
Fred,
What is ignorance and why did you just remove all doubt? You just proved that you do not know why Bush was "selected" in 2000 and "stolen" in 2004... That's all.
Say, tell me...
... What kind of Democracy do you say you support when the ONLY candidate is the candidate YOU approve of.
I thought that in a Democracy, choices were essential. Why is it so difficult for other people to realize this?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:56 amMax-1 Says:
You call me ignorant. Way to keep it civil there maxi or is it really mini.
You are the fool who doesn't seem to understand that you do have a choice. Obama or mccain.
You show your ignorance by implying that there is any other choice in America todat.
Grow up and smell the reality.
October 13th, 2008 at 11:19 amhttp://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#102501 Go there and watch those videos. Then get them to tell you about the occasional nut again. The McCain/Palin Salem witch hunts! McCarthyism is reborn. When did approximately 1/2 of the American population(Non Republicans) suddenly become Non American?
Remember if you're not Republican, Your Not American! USA! USA! USA! USA! Pssst hey buddy...Did you know there is a terrorist running for President of the USA?
The scary part is that I fear for Obama's life regardless of what party he represents! People usually end up severely hurt or dead when crowds of people start chanting emotional slogans of baseless accusation.
By the way, why is noone talking about John McCain's close relationship to Watergate conspirator, convicted theif and general felon, G. Gordon Liddy. Now there is a real link to a former Republican crook! Just Google G. Gordon Liddy and read. It's rather funny and confusing that the MSM is not all over this in an effort to show true balance!
October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pmIt looks to me like the occasional nuts are standing in line.
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