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	<title>Comments on: Will The Vote Of &#8216;Joe The Plumber&#8217; Be Counted?</title>
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		<title>By: ThomasMc</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289956</link>
		<dc:creator>ThomasMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he&#039;s stupid enough to actually think he&#039;d be better off under McCain, he&#039;s not smart enough to vote, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s stupid enough to actually think he&#8217;d be better off under McCain, he&#8217;s not smart enough to vote, anyway.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289956', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wearechange</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289704</link>
		<dc:creator>wearechange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe&#039;s mini-pep rally on &quot;victory in iraq&quot; and &quot;spreading democracy in the middle east&quot; was a little over the top. 

not only was his initial topic of discussion (taxes) a stretch, but he&#039;s really milked his 15 minutes for all it&#039;s worth... 

thing is, the vetting of these stooges doesn&#039;t matter. the only goal was to get the 15 minutes and shape the initial opinion. you have to consider that these are kids running the mclame campaign. everything they&#039;ve done has been half-cocked. this gig is spring break in ft. lauderdale for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe&#8217;s mini-pep rally on &#8220;victory in iraq&#8221; and &#8220;spreading democracy in the middle east&#8221; was a little over the top. </p>
<p>not only was his initial topic of discussion (taxes) a stretch, but he&#8217;s really milked his 15 minutes for all it&#8217;s worth&#8230; </p>
<p>thing is, the vetting of these stooges doesn&#8217;t matter. the only goal was to get the 15 minutes and shape the initial opinion. you have to consider that these are kids running the mclame campaign. everything they&#8217;ve done has been half-cocked. this gig is spring break in ft. lauderdale for them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289704', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289640</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olberman had a great vignette on Joe the plumber tonight.  Ends up he isn&#039;t licensed as a plumber, the company he wants to buy makes only about 1/2 what McCain said, and apparently is under some tax liens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olberman had a great vignette on Joe the plumber tonight.  Ends up he isn&#8217;t licensed as a plumber, the company he wants to buy makes only about 1/2 what McCain said, and apparently is under some tax liens.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289640', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Beethoven Rules</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289552</link>
		<dc:creator>Beethoven Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if Joe the plumber can spell the three letter word jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if Joe the plumber can spell the three letter word jobs?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289552', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289512</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...the repubelicans must have really leaned on those appelate judges to get an en banc hearing of this..

do any legal types recall the standard required to get an en banc hearing? is it totally up to the judges discretion? I dont recall...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;the repubelicans must have really leaned on those appelate judges to get an en banc hearing of this..</p>
<p>do any legal types recall the standard required to get an en banc hearing? is it totally up to the judges discretion? I dont recall&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289512', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289446</link>
		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there IS a bright side to this.

Now that voter disenfranchisement has affected an almost-wealthy white guy instead of just poor black folk, perhaps they&#039;ll start realizing that there&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there IS a bright side to this.</p>
<p>Now that voter disenfranchisement has affected an almost-wealthy white guy instead of just poor black folk, perhaps they&#8217;ll start realizing that there&#8217;s a problem.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: johnfyounger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289420</link>
		<dc:creator>johnfyounger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also read this guy is a relative ocf Charles Keating.  Wondering if anyone can attest to the accuracy of this and provide links to documentation if so?  Truth seems stranger than fiction with this dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also read this guy is a relative ocf Charles Keating.  Wondering if anyone can attest to the accuracy of this and provide links to documentation if so?  Truth seems stranger than fiction with this dude.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289420', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289370</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this link:

http://www.courtclerk.org/case_summary.asp?casenumber=DV0301377

If this is the same guy, that isn&#039;t very flattering.  Then click on the &quot;New Name search&quot; on the right and then on Comprehensive Name Search.  Put in JOSEPH WURZELBACHER.  Click on some of the cases.  If this is the same guy, he&#039;s in small claims court a lot.  I wonder if it has something to do with his being unlicensed and not bonded and jobs he has performed.

McCain choosen a skinhead, tax evading, unlicensed plumber who doesn&#039;t know jack about how taxes are applied (Gross vs Net) as his new poster child for the middle class.  This is going to come back and bite McCain the way Sarah Palin has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.courtclerk.org/case_summary.asp?casenumber=DV0301377" rel="nofollow">http://www.courtclerk.org/case_summary.asp?casenumber=DV0301377</a></p>
<p>If this is the same guy, that isn&#8217;t very flattering.  Then click on the &#8220;New Name search&#8221; on the right and then on Comprehensive Name Search.  Put in JOSEPH WURZELBACHER.  Click on some of the cases.  If this is the same guy, he&#8217;s in small claims court a lot.  I wonder if it has something to do with his being unlicensed and not bonded and jobs he has performed.</p>
<p>McCain choosen a skinhead, tax evading, unlicensed plumber who doesn&#8217;t know jack about how taxes are applied (Gross vs Net) as his new poster child for the middle class.  This is going to come back and bite McCain the way Sarah Palin has.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289370', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: abarts</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289358</link>
		<dc:creator>abarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serves him right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serves him right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IBTunion4obama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289328</link>
		<dc:creator>IBTunion4obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe is a non-union scab outfit worker. He&#039;s not licensed, obviously not bonded or certified. Therefore he has no credibility because he shouldn&#039;t have his own plumbing business. 

This is very sad though what my state(Ohio) is doing. Rove, Blackwell, and McCain are trying to hijack Ohio once again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe is a non-union scab outfit worker. He&#8217;s not licensed, obviously not bonded or certified. Therefore he has no credibility because he shouldn&#8217;t have his own plumbing business. </p>
<p>This is very sad though what my state(Ohio) is doing. Rove, Blackwell, and McCain are trying to hijack Ohio once again!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289328', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hivanh</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289300</link>
		<dc:creator>hivanh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand, it is amazing how Americans can be so quickly and utterly distracted by something so stupid. This like &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Sarah Palin II&quot;. &lt;/strong&gt;On the other hand, for how many more decades will we let Ohio make a mockery out of the democratic voting system? But I doubt Joe is gonna vote, anyhow. &lt;em&gt;Shucks. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, it is amazing how Americans can be so quickly and utterly distracted by something so stupid. This like <strong>&#8220;Sarah Palin II&#8221;. </strong>On the other hand, for how many more decades will we let Ohio make a mockery out of the democratic voting system? But I doubt Joe is gonna vote, anyhow. <em>Shucks. </em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289300', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Above the Clouds</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289262</link>
		<dc:creator>Above the Clouds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t ANYONE on the McCain team do ANY vetting or backchecking on ANYTHING? And they take offense to being called erratic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t ANYONE on the McCain team do ANY vetting or backchecking on ANYTHING? And they take offense to being called erratic?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289230</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289230', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nevar</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289228</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Didn&#039;t Nixon also have a plumber or two?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Didn&#8217;t Nixon also have a plumber or two?</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289228', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AngryOne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289218</link>
		<dc:creator>AngryOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the wake of last night&#039;s third and final presidential debate, a media frenzy has surrounded John McCain&#039;s latest human shield, &quot;Joe the Plumber.&quot; But while reporters and bloggers continue to plumb the depths of Republican Joe Wurzelbacher&#039;s voter registration, unpaid taxes, distant links to Charles Keating, business license and other miscellany, one useful nugget for voters has emerged. As it turns out, John McCain and his new best friend for life both hate Social Security. 

For the details, see:
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001268.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;McCain and His Plumber Hate Social Security.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the wake of last night&#8217;s third and final presidential debate, a media frenzy has surrounded John McCain&#8217;s latest human shield, &#8220;Joe the Plumber.&#8221; But while reporters and bloggers continue to plumb the depths of Republican Joe Wurzelbacher&#8217;s voter registration, unpaid taxes, distant links to Charles Keating, business license and other miscellany, one useful nugget for voters has emerged. As it turns out, John McCain and his new best friend for life both hate Social Security. </p>
<p>For the details, see:<br />
<b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001268.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;McCain and His Plumber Hate Social Security.&#8221;</a></b><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289218', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Evil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289216</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe the plumber, meet Joe the fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe the plumber, meet Joe the fraud.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289216', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nevar</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289166</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy is on her way over with a sixpack, Joe.... hope you like Bud...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy is on her way over with a sixpack, Joe&#8230;. hope you like Bud&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Badmoodman Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 6:32 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks, Badmoodman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Badmoodman Says:<br />
October 16th, 2008 at 6:32 pm</em></p>
<p>Thanks, Badmoodman.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heeeyy,,,,I recognize that bald head - IT&#039;S JEFF GANNON!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heeeyy,,,,I recognize that bald head &#8211; IT&#8217;S JEFF GANNON!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289152', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/plumber-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-5289148</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a surprise. The new GOP poster boy is a fraud. His vote was paid for by the same people who fed him his talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a surprise. The new GOP poster boy is a fraud. His vote was paid for by the same people who fed him his talking points.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5289148', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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