California teachers union donates $1 million for marriage equality.
By on Oct 17th, 2008 at 9:58 am
California teachers union donates $1 million for marriage equality.
This week, the California Teachers Association donated $1 million to defeat Proposition 8, a ballot measure to ban same-sex marriage. The donation “comes on the heels of an internal poll by opponents of Proposition 8 showing that the campaign to defeat the measure was in trouble.” “For us, it’s a civil rights issue,” said CTA President David Sanchez. “We don’t believe people should be treated differently.” More on the No On 8 initiative here.
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For the life of me I don’t understand this. California is a liberal state. How can someone walk into the voting booth and vote for Obama and against marriage equality? I just wish Gavin Newsom had kept his d a m n mouth shut.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:01 amTeachers is smart. ;)
October 17th, 2008 at 10:05 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says
October 17th, 2008 at 10:01 am
How can someone walk into the voting booth and vote for Obama and against marriage equality?
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It DOES boggle the mind. But remember that Obama himself opposes gay marriage (I truly don’t know if he is against it personally or if he just feels he can’t endorse it publicly because it would be political suicide).
I suspect there are more than a few people out there who are voting for Obama because they are tired of the economy the way it is, tired of high gas prices, tired of the middle class being crapped on while the rich get all the breaks, and tired of getting into endless unwinnable wars — BUT still don’t want to see Brad and Steve get the same legal protections enjoyed by Dick and Jane.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:10 amThose lib teacher’s unions – the enemies of out times!!!
snark
October 17th, 2008 at 10:14 amFrom what I understand the Mormon Church is donating heavily to the Yes campaign… And even though Califonia is a liberal state, the airways are filled with “yes” advertising filled with lies and scare tactics. If this passes it will be devastating. NO on 8!
October 17th, 2008 at 10:15 amSame-sex marriage is coming. It is only a matter of time. The hate-filled right has lost every major battle it has fought against gay people’s rights. Sometimes it has taken a few years, but sooner or later they lose. To my knowledge, not one of their boycotts has caused a major corporation to back away from offering same-sex partner benefits once the decision has been made (correct me if I’m wrong about this). The reason is this: it isn’t so easy to hate the people you already know and like. I have seen several older relatives of mine go from being openly homophobic to accepting homosexuality in just a matter of years, and only because they realized they already had gay friends.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:15 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
Obama, I think, is one of two things on this issue:
1) He’s against it for religious reasons, which is fine because he doesn’t hide behind his religion when he says he’s against it (for as much as I like Edwards, when he did that during the primaries I was infuriated)
-OR-
2) More likely, as you say MHM, he is doing it for political purposes. However, at least he supports equal marriage RIGHTS via Civil Unions etc. The people who just don’t want the word marriage used to describe gay couples, as maddening as it is, is at least somewhat reasonable. He doesn’t demonize gays, he doesn’t say that gay marriage would lead to bestiality or pedophilia.
ALSO, Obama is more likely to allow/sign into law something on the national level that legalizes gay marriage if the PEOPLE demand it loudly enough. I don’t think he’d stand in the way unlike Bush and McCain (who cares if 75% of the country is against the war now, we’re stayin’!)
Does anyone know Obama’s stance on DADT? I can’t remember.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:18 amThere are a number of lies employed by the proponents of 8 as scare tactics — including the myth that if Proposition 8 doesn’t pass, then clergy will be forced to perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples.
This is nonsense, of course. No member of the clergy is currently forced to perform any marriage ceremony, and they can decline to perform any ceremony they feel would violate their doctrine. Most of the time these objections have to do with marrying people outside their faith, or similar reasons.
Hopefully, this large contribution from the California teachers will help dispel some of the myths.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:18 amCue Darlyy with his usual homos are evil = teachers are homos crap…
October 17th, 2008 at 10:19 amDoes this mean teachers van now marry their students before having sex with them? :)
October 17th, 2008 at 10:21 amRUCerious Says
October 17th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Cue Darlyy with his usual homos are evil = teachers are homos crap…
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Daryll (or RaptureReady, or whatever he’s going by these days) hasn’t been around much lately, and when he is, he’s rather anemic. Like the rest of the trolls, it’s as if he’s just given up.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:24 amTeachers is smart! Join them in supporting equality — and turning back the tide of theocratically-inspired homophobia.
Help now! Go to equalityforall.com.
The future thanks you.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:25 am5th, only if they’re the same gender…/snark
October 17th, 2008 at 10:25 amMissHMolly, he showed up the other day for a single turd drop and left without wiping…
October 17th, 2008 at 10:25 amJebus is telling teachers to get a weel job. My jebus, my oral roberts, my savior, my government contract that expires in 2017, my personal responsibility for being a cretin, my chevy tahoe tells me that jebus wuvs me and hates hippies and hungry people.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:26 amMcWars, thank you for your standing in for Darlyy. Don’t forget the baby deer heads hung up on his daddy’s basement wall…
October 17th, 2008 at 10:27 amWhy do California bigots hate the wedding industry?
October 17th, 2008 at 10:27 amLess socialism, more sociopathism!
October 17th, 2008 at 10:29 amZooey Says:
Why do California bigots hate the wedding industry?
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When Hussein started being a muswim!!
October 17th, 2008 at 10:32 amMcWars Says:
When Hussein started being a muswim!!
October 17th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Ack! Not a muswim!
**runs screaming from the room**
October 17th, 2008 at 10:50 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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For the life of me I don’t understand this. California is a liberal state.
California has a huge red streak from Orange county down to San Diego.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:55 amI received my sample ballot in the mail this week here in Florida and they have added a constitutional amendment to be voted on saying that marriage is lawfully between a man and a woman or some such crap as that.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:03 amIm all for allowing adults to marry whomever the hell they want, but this is not a good use of union money. They should pick their battles more closely in allignment with their organization’s purpose, namely advocating for TEACHERS.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:05 amHow many times are the American people going to fall for these stupid stupid wedge issues.
The hell with ‘defining marriage’, let’s just ban it altogether. domestic partnerships for everyone. Anything to stop this periodic right wing circle jerk.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:08 amBilbo Hussein Baggins says: For the life of me I don’t understand this. California is a liberal state.
shoeless says: California has a huge red streak from Orange county down to San Diego.
Isn’t that interesting?
The power of propaganda and the pitfalls of the assumptions derived therfrom, right there in that exchange.
From the national perspective CA is liberal, and yet it gave us Reagan and gave itself Schwarzenegger (though there’s significant difference between the one and the other).
October 17th, 2008 at 11:11 amFor myself I’m constantly amazed at how conservative New Jersey is. It’s all about scale and districting.
misshusseinmolly Says:
Daryll (or RaptureReady, or whatever he’s going by these days) hasn’t been around much lately, and when he is, he’s rather anemic. Like the rest of the trolls, it’s as if he’s just given up.
Actually, he was very active yesterday afternoon on the Obama bucks thread.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:26 amNot to mention pretty much all of the Central Valley (Bakersfield, Fresno, etc.)
October 17th, 2008 at 11:32 amAnd I have to give him some props for that performance. He didn’t make a great effort, it wasn’t his best work, but he was still entertaining.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:32 amI had a discussion with a ‘yes on 8′ supporter at my local farmers market. She tried to make it sound like teachers will be forece to teach children how to be homosexuals. I called her on her lies and that I was under the impression religion taught tolerance rather than hate. I also told here if her marriage was in jeopardy it was because of her and her husband and not because two same sex people loved each other. My wife showed up with two ‘no on 8′ stickers and seconded my statement. The woman was speachless – for a moment anyway.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pmSorry for the mispellings
forece = force
October 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pmspeachless = speechless
5th Estate Says
October 17th, 2008 at 11:11 am
From the national perspective CA is liberal, and yet it gave us Reagan and gave itself Schwarzenegger (though there’s significant difference between the one and the other).
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Don’t forget — California also gave us Richard Nixon.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:49 pmGood point, missM — California has given us as many right-wing presidents as Texas has. And Texas also gave us LBJ, one of the more progressive Dems we’ve had in the oval office in the last half-century.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:58 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
For the life of me I don’t understand this. California is a liberal state. How can someone walk into the voting booth and vote for Obama and against marriage equality? I just wish Gavin Newsom had kept his d a m n mouth shut.
This is actually a misnomer in some ways. Certain parts of the state are highly liberal and almost always in dense urban areas that keep it out of the hands of a person like McCain, but certain parts are highly conservative as well, where the unrelenting religious, senior citizens and country folk get all paranoid and stuff. Where I live, Brian Bilbray is our Representative and is the southern tip of one of the biggest neocon bases in the nation. Central California is also a big area that is full of do-gooder neocons who are at the driver’s seat to get Prop 8 to pass.
Stuff like this is how the conservatives cause trouble for everyone for not being allowed to gerrymander the districts and being spited in the courts.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:46 pmMuch of LA and the Bay area is Blue… the rest of CA is pretty darn Red. And theres a lot of God-people in the blue parts.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:48 pm