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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5303946</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well unlike those at ACORN, the election FRAUD is intentional. But I like how you&#039;re trying to diminish the effect of it by claiming it&#039;s a few individual election boards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well unlike those at ACORN, the election FRAUD is intentional. But I like how you&#8217;re trying to diminish the effect of it by claiming it&#8217;s a few individual election boards&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5303946', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5299118</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Tracy__5 Says:

If it hadn’t been going on for so MANY years, the same complaint over and over, i.e. hired workers faking registration forms, I might have some sympathy. Why haven’t they taken steps to correct this?…because over the years it has gotten WORSE not better.&lt;/em&gt;

Funny, election fraud with the help of voting machines has gone on for several years and I&#039;m wondering if your sympathy for that has diminished over the years...</description>
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<p>If it hadn’t been going on for so MANY years, the same complaint over and over, i.e. hired workers faking registration forms, I might have some sympathy. Why haven’t they taken steps to correct this?…because over the years it has gotten WORSE not better.</em></p>
<p>Funny, election fraud with the help of voting machines has gone on for several years and I&#8217;m wondering if your sympathy for that has diminished over the years&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5299118', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5298838</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic but:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122455027730552509.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bernanke Endorses Obama &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

This is much bigger than Powell endorsment. This was gw bush’s apppointee…..now that’s funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic but:<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122455027730552509.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow"><strong>Bernanke Endorses Obama </strong></a></p>
<p>This is much bigger than Powell endorsment. This was gw bush’s apppointee…..now that’s funny.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5298838', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5298768</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fish on.  Damn, someone hand me a beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fish on.  Damn, someone hand me a beer.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5298768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There he is, set the hook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There he is, set the hook<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5298750', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5298652</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t5 bait....you suck at this t5.


lets see if the little fishie comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t5 bait&#8230;.you suck at this t5.</p>
<p>lets see if the little fishie comes out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5298652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Tracy__5 Says: 
 Why do you fail to mention that the reason Joe has a good paying job that pays (thru taxes) for ALL of the things you mentioned are a result of some evil conservative promoting a free market system that makes Joe’s job possible to have in the first place?
October 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm&lt;/em&gt;

You make it sound like in our country&#039;s early history there was communism until brave conservatives fought for capitalism!  Truth is there were indentured servants, slavery, robber barons and the vast majority below the poverty line before those left-of-center fought for progressive policies!  Originally, only white Protestant land-owning men could vote.  And you probably think living under a monarchy is leftist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Tracy__5 Says:<br />
 Why do you fail to mention that the reason Joe has a good paying job that pays (thru taxes) for ALL of the things you mentioned are a result of some evil conservative promoting a free market system that makes Joe’s job possible to have in the first place?<br />
October 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm</em></p>
<p>You make it sound like in our country&#8217;s early history there was communism until brave conservatives fought for capitalism!  Truth is there were indentured servants, slavery, robber barons and the vast majority below the poverty line before those left-of-center fought for progressive policies!  Originally, only white Protestant land-owning men could vote.  And you probably think living under a monarchy is leftist!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297906', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
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		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>giving ACORN the benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giving ACORN the benefit.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297874', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5297840</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, Tracy, how your standards of innocent until proven guilty are not applicable to ACORN...You&#039;re too busy expressing your outrage that you don&#039;t have the chance to see that maybe it&#039;s not an intentional fraud ACORN is trying to do, but rather they need to do a better job in vetting who they hire.

I&#039;ve seen these dirty tricks that signature gatherers utilize myself. For example, there was one about protecting children from sex offenders, but I noticed there were more that he was trying to get me to sign without reading them. One involved Prop 73 which was Parental Notification a few years ago. I will never forget the blatant dishonesty and the feeling that he wanted to hide something. After all, he was on a community college campus and perhaps he felt he wouldn&#039;t get as much support. Perhaps this was a case of bad apples but you are not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, Tracy, how your standards of innocent until proven guilty are not applicable to ACORN&#8230;You&#8217;re too busy expressing your outrage that you don&#8217;t have the chance to see that maybe it&#8217;s not an intentional fraud ACORN is trying to do, but rather they need to do a better job in vetting who they hire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen these dirty tricks that signature gatherers utilize myself. For example, there was one about protecting children from sex offenders, but I noticed there were more that he was trying to get me to sign without reading them. One involved Prop 73 which was Parental Notification a few years ago. I will never forget the blatant dishonesty and the feeling that he wanted to hide something. After all, he was on a community college campus and perhaps he felt he wouldn&#8217;t get as much support. Perhaps this was a case of bad apples but you are not<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297840', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tracy__5 Says:
No, I am trying to get the ostriches like yourself to pull your head out of the sand and quit turning a blind eye on a serious problem…even if it mostly affects your party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


What you have pointed out is that acorn has been policing itself and has resolved problems when they arise.

You should be more concerned about the gop&#039;s people who were actually training people to commit voter registration fraud and got caught and arrested, handcuffed and perpwalked.  

You are such a loser.  How much do we owe you for making the right look so dumb?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tracy__5 Says:<br />
No, I am trying to get the ostriches like yourself to pull your head out of the sand and quit turning a blind eye on a serious problem…even if it mostly affects your party.</p></blockquote>
<p>What you have pointed out is that acorn has been policing itself and has resolved problems when they arise.</p>
<p>You should be more concerned about the gop&#8217;s people who were actually training people to commit voter registration fraud and got caught and arrested, handcuffed and perpwalked.  </p>
<p>You are such a loser.  How much do we owe you for making the right look so dumb?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5297542</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tracy__5 Says: 
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“This threads not about acorn. You are the only one trying to distract from the topic of the thread with lies and warped facts.”

No, I am trying to get the ostriches like yourself to pull your head out of the sand and quit turning a blind eye on a serious problem…even if it mostly affects your party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

wastin your time and making yourself look bad.....progressives should pay you to post, you make righties look like doofus&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tracy__5 Says:<br />
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<p>“This threads not about acorn. You are the only one trying to distract from the topic of the thread with lies and warped facts.”</p>
<p>No, I am trying to get the ostriches like yourself to pull your head out of the sand and quit turning a blind eye on a serious problem…even if it mostly affects your party.</p></blockquote>
<p>wastin your time and making yourself look bad&#8230;..progressives should pay you to post, you make righties look like doofus&#8217;s&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297542', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/20/gop-voter-fraud/comment-page-5/#comment-5297510</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tracy__5 Says: 
I suggest you go read back thru this thread see that ACORN.....bla, bla, bla....no one arrested&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This threads not about acorn. You are the only one trying to distract from the topic of the thread with lies and warped facts.

Are you sure you&#039;re not really a progressive who was sent here to make the righties look bad.  You certainly are doing that effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tracy__5 Says:<br />
I suggest you go read back thru this thread see that ACORN&#8230;..bla, bla, bla&#8230;.no one arrested</p></blockquote>
<p>This threads not about acorn. You are the only one trying to distract from the topic of the thread with lies and warped facts.</p>
<p>Are you sure you&#8217;re not really a progressive who was sent here to make the righties look bad.  You certainly are doing that effectively.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297510', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t5, you replied to my question:



&lt;blockquote&gt;“…but what about the gop guy who was arrested and handcuffed? Guess you got nothing.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


with this:



&lt;blockquote&gt;I would say put the guy on trial and see what happens instead of convicting him in this thread….but then again you guys seem to always subscribe to the guilty untill proven innocent when it comes to the “other side”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



You are guilty of what you accuse us of and no one from acorn has even been arrested.

as I said before, read back through the thread, you look like a total bafoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t5, you replied to my question:</p>
<blockquote><p>“…but what about the gop guy who was arrested and handcuffed? Guess you got nothing.”</p></blockquote>
<p>with this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I would say put the guy on trial and see what happens instead of convicting him in this thread….but then again you guys seem to always subscribe to the guilty untill proven innocent when it comes to the “other side”.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are guilty of what you accuse us of and no one from acorn has even been arrested.</p>
<p>as I said before, read back through the thread, you look like a total bafoon.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297352', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t5, read through the thread, you look like a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t5, read through the thread, you look like a fool.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297338', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy__5 Says: 

but what about the gop guy who was arrested and handcuffed?  Guess you got nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy__5 Says: </p>
<p>but what about the gop guy who was arrested and handcuffed?  Guess you got nothing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297210', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just keep talking to yourself t5, I will be back later to call you a liar again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just keep talking to yourself t5, I will be back later to call you a liar again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5297074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tracy__5 Says: 
What lie specifically are you referring to?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


the lie that Obama gave 800 thou to Acorn...specifically, but mostly all of your statements are just lies.


for you to ponder fool:




&lt;blockquote&gt;Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans.

The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tracy__5 Says:<br />
What lie specifically are you referring to?</p></blockquote>
<p>the lie that Obama gave 800 thou to Acorn&#8230;specifically, but mostly all of your statements are just lies.</p>
<p>for you to ponder fool:</p>
<blockquote><p>Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.</p>
<p>All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance &#8211; now Joe gets it too.</p>
<p>He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.</p>
<p>In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.</p>
<p>Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.</p>
<p>He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.</p>
<p>Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union.</p>
<p>If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.</p>
<p>It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.</p>
<p>Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.</p>
<p>Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.</p>
<p>He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans.</p>
<p>The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.</p>
<p>He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.</p>
<p>Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to t5:
Your posting has no relevance to the purpose of the forum which is a discussion about a specific issue. The difficulty the Poster has with relevance shows also from the contents of his or her message. Poster uses this forum to ventilate unsubstantiated political messages. This is rather inappropriate since he or she does not intend to answer the question. Instead, it uses the question as a vehicle to influence or impress an assumed gullible audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to t5:<br />
Your posting has no relevance to the purpose of the forum which is a discussion about a specific issue. The difficulty the Poster has with relevance shows also from the contents of his or her message. Poster uses this forum to ventilate unsubstantiated political messages. This is rather inappropriate since he or she does not intend to answer the question. Instead, it uses the question as a vehicle to influence or impress an assumed gullible audience.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5296984', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t5 suck it up, you lose big time in so many ways.  See nov 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t5 suck it up, you lose big time in so many ways.  See nov 4.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5296976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I would revisit this thread knowing full well that t5 would come back after everyone was gone and refute everthing and somehow claim a win.

t5 you have proven only that you are a total fool.

You have lied and lied.  even your last point is a lie.  Obama never gave 800,000 dollars to acorn, that is just another of your lies.

You are just a pathetic imitation of a human being.  

The fact that we interact with you shows how compassionate we are, you obviously have no life at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I would revisit this thread knowing full well that t5 would come back after everyone was gone and refute everthing and somehow claim a win.</p>
<p>t5 you have proven only that you are a total fool.</p>
<p>You have lied and lied.  even your last point is a lie.  Obama never gave 800,000 dollars to acorn, that is just another of your lies.</p>
<p>You are just a pathetic imitation of a human being.  </p>
<p>The fact that we interact with you shows how compassionate we are, you obviously have no life at all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5296974', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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