Heritage Foundation’s presidential election year ritual.
By on Oct 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Heritage Foundation’s presidential election year ritual.
On October 18, 2004, the Wall Street Journal’s John Fund appeared with Rebecca Hagelin at a Heritage Foundation event entitled “Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens our Democracy.”
Today – four years later – Fund and Hagelin appeared at Heritage event entitled… “Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.”
Commenting on right-claims of voter fraud, former U.S. Attorney David Iglesias said, “Based on what I saw in 2004 and 2006, it’s a scare tactic.”
Update Yglesias on “voter fraud” allegations: “Just as when the Bush Justice Department brought inappropriate and illegal political pressure to bear on US Attorneys across the country to investigate voter fraud, they could barely come up with anything to investigate. It just doesn’t happen.”
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It just looks like it’s the same event, but now Fund is a columnist at the WSJ. That makes it completely different.
October 20th, 2008 at 7:57 pmLooks like Bush is trying to steal his third presidential election…
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October 20th, 2008 at 8:01 pmBeing a GOP stooge must be so booooring… How do they get up for this crap?
October 20th, 2008 at 8:02 pmOn October 20, 2004, the ABC/Washington Post tracking poll among likely voters was: Bush 47 % Kerry 45 %. Today, Obama has a nine point lead (53-44).
I’m Fired Up.
OB08
October 20th, 2008 at 8:03 pmIt’s like déjà vu all over again….
Cheers,
October 20th, 2008 at 8:04 pmThis has been another edition of “More of the Same”.
One-note Johnnies, the whole lot of ‘em.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:06 pmIt’s easy to do the same thing. That whole thinking thing
October 20th, 2008 at 8:08 pmhas gotten pretty tough for the republicans.
Speaking of voter fraud, It appears that voting machines are already “failing”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/florida-voting-machines-b_n_136342.html
October 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pmRepublican smoke screen of attacking ACORN while hiring their own company to make sure the voters are tricked into voting for McCain/Palin. This time with out Karl the brain Rove the Republican’s got busted. Yes the word is out the and the company is exposed it’s been doing this in many States now. This is one of the many Republican scam’s done to the American people.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pmbush/cheney ‘08
October 20th, 2008 at 8:27 pm…From RFK Jr. and Greg Palast’s great article in Rolling Stone:
“… studies have repeatedly shown that voter fraud is extremely rare. According to a recent an@lysis by Lorraine Minnite, an expert on voting crime at Barnard College, federal courts found only 24 voters guilty of fraud from 2002 to 2005, out of hundreds of millions of votes cast. “The claim of widespread voter fraud,” Minnite says, “is itself a fraud.”
http://www.rollingstone.com/ politics/ story/ 23638322/ block_the_vote/ print
TP, I remembered the “@’ this time.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:28 pmJohn Fund…I get him mixed up with Joe Scarboro. One had a dead intern and the other was a stalker. Which is which?
October 20th, 2008 at 8:29 pmDr. Hussein Matt, Kerry led in the exit polls by 3 million.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pmDr. Hussein Matt , I know. I was trying to say while Heritage tries to scare people with Dems stealing the election, the reality was Kerry had it stolen from him.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:48 pmHeritage’s biggest backers are Exxon and the other big oil corporations.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:49 pmSort of like the Klan, they were very punctual when it came to cross burnings and lynchings.
October 20th, 2008 at 8:56 pmUH OH,
October 20th, 2008 at 9:02 pmOT
Barack Obama has cancelled campaign events for later this week; his grandmother is gravely ill in Hawaii. It would be sad if she did not live to see her grandson win the White House.
Consider the source. The Heritage Foundation is one of the select few of the staged Bush/Cheney venues. The safe haven for the politics of hate, division and yes, ELITISM.
Phuck them!
October 20th, 2008 at 9:16 pmIt’s not voter fraud we have to worry about. It’s ELECTION FRAUD.
http://wvgazette.com/News/200810180251
October 20th, 2008 at 9:17 pmHow Voter Fraud Threatens our Democracy
Date: October 20th 2008
12 noon: Explanation of How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.
October 20th, 2008 at 9:23 pm12.04 P.M. : Concluding Remarks
12.05 P.M. : Lunch
2 P.M. : Cocktails, Karaoke and Door Prizes!
Keith Says:
Dr. Hussein Matt , I know. I was trying to say while Heritage tries to scare people with Dems stealing the election, the reality was Kerry had it stolen from him.
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I was under the impression that exit polls are considered so accurate that they are used in banana republics to detect possible ELECTION fraud. This process is respected and trusted all over the planet, EXCEPT in the good, ole US of A…
http://www.electionintegrity.org/EVEP/EVEP.aspx
“Under these conditions, exit polls represent one of the few ways to identify that vote manipulation has occurred. Indeed, exit polls have been used around the world to ensure that elections represent the intent of the voter. Where voting is conducted and counted transparently, exit polls inevitably match up accurately with official results. Where they do not, we usually attribute to the discrepancy to fraud. In fact, exit polls have been used to overturn fraudulent elections in Ukraine, Serbia, the Republic of Georgia and Peru.”
October 20th, 2008 at 9:29 pmHow many copies of John Fund’s book were sold in bulk sales (to conservative groups that gave them away with a donation), and how many were sold “one-at-a-time” at bookstores or online?
October 20th, 2008 at 9:30 pmObama is taking 2 days off to see his grandmother in Hawaii.
Any Effect??????
October 20th, 2008 at 9:37 pmObama is taking 2 days off to see his grandmother in Hawaii.
Any Effect??????
Empathy, I hope. All our best wishes to Senator Obama and his family.
October 20th, 2008 at 9:39 pm“Voter fraud?” Let’s check out the real problem, Republican electronic election hacking, rigging and stealing. They have been doing this since 1996, with Sen. Chuck Hagel, starting by “winning” a primary and general election in Nebraska with his own corporate electronic voting machines “counting the votes.”
Here are my comments published just after the 2004 Presidential election theft by Republicans:
Another stolen election: Bush stole the election again in 2004, by the rigging of right-wing corporate electronic vote-counting machines.
To the Editor:
The exit polls that showed a sweeping Senator Kerry Democratic election victory on November 2nd were right. Unfortunately, the 2004 Presidential election was cleanly stolen by Bush & Co. How, you say? With the help of Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia and SAIC, four interlocked secretive right-wing electronic voting machine manufacturers. We have entrusted the most important election task, that of actually counting and tabulating the vote totals to extremist organizations with secret proprietary vote-counting computer software with no auditable paper trail for hand recounts. How very convenient, how very clean, how very slick and with all the evidence of election rigging is buried deep on their computer hard drives.
Senator John F. Kerry won a landslide Democratic victory in the November 2, 2004 Presidential election by between two million and five million votes. The pre-election public opinion polls pointed to a large and growing Kerry election day majority and the election day exit polls also indicated a Kerry victory. Unfortunately, theocratic extremely right-wing computer election machine manufacturing corporations were in charge of “counting” the votes of millions and millions of Americans. Some how, a few million Kerry votes didn’t get counted and a few million bogus Bush votes showed up in the final election tallies and voile, a Bush “victory.”
Democracy in 21st century America has been kidnapped and destroyed by extreme right-wing control of the new secret computerized electronic vote counting systems. Verifiable hand-counted paper ballots are the only way to restore legitimate elections in America.
Just search the Internet for any terms such as “black box voting,” “Max Cleland,” “Diebold,” “Sequoia,” “SE&S,” “Greg Palest,” “election fraud” or “election theft” and you will find a wealth of information to help arm you in the coming fight to restore legitimate free elections and democracy in our country.
In 2002, the Republican Party staged their test run of controlling the new Diebold computerized paper-trail-free electronic voting systems that were installed in every precinct in the State of Georgia. It worked like a charm. Two popular Democratic incumbents, the Governor Roy Barnes and Senator Max Cleland, were both “defeated” by Republican challengers. The Democrats were both ahead by several points in both the pre-election voter opinion polls and in the election day exit polls, yet the Diebold voting machines declared the two Republican challengers as winners. The local media claimed to be “amazed” by this election “upset.” They should have been horrified and outraged. These elections were stolen electronically. There was no paper trail, no recount was possible and for good measure, Diebold Corporation “accidentally erased” the disputed 2002 election returns data from their computer hard disk drives a few days after the election. How convenient, how clean, how slick and how crooked is Republican election theft in the 21st century.
The 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections were both stolen by Bush & Company. The 2008 and 2012 Presidential elections will suffer the same fate unless we institute a complete and total return to traditional, verifiable hand-counted paper election ballots.
The Republican Party will never lose another Presidential election as long as we allow their corporate buddies to “count” our votes in secret.
Yours truly,
James K. Sayre
11 November 2004
End.
October 20th, 2008 at 9:50 pmThe Heritage Foundation–where the results are known before the research is done, and where peer review is never an obstacle.
October 20th, 2008 at 9:52 pmEmpathy I hope. I am just on pins and needles, I so wish the election was last week.
I did win most pessimistic in high school, so I’m just nervous…..
October 20th, 2008 at 10:00 pmblue state bob Says: I did win most pessimistic in high school, so I’m just nervous…..
And I bet you thought you didn’t stand a chance :)
October 20th, 2008 at 10:04 pmWhen you have nothing to offer…make crap up. That is the GOP and McSame mantra. What a pitiful bunch of moron losers. The GOP is truly the party of dishonest troglodytes.
October 20th, 2008 at 10:17 pmOT
At least we don’t have to decide between these clowns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjYniYChX3k&feature=related
October 20th, 2008 at 10:25 pmI did win most pessimistic in high school, so I’m just nervous…..
I tried to win most pessimistic in high school, but I figured it was rigged against me, so I didn’t bother to try.
October 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pmI’m not a pessimist. I’m optimistic in my belief that everything is FUBAR.
October 20th, 2008 at 10:32 pmThis time Fund is hawking a book on how liberals use vote fraud to steal elections. Oh, that Wacky Fox News!
October 20th, 2008 at 10:39 pmcould say much being 59 yo but will say only. Stop the baiting by denigrating our intelligence! If you wish to account for real issues of ‘Election Stealing” check out the gatekeepers contracted by the powerful but under recognized Secretaries’ of State to present the vote tallies to them.
October 20th, 2008 at 11:05 pmI hope they spend the entire time explaining the tactics of YPM.
October 20th, 2008 at 11:33 pmAccording to the link in the Huff post story, there are some problems where electronic votes for Democrats are registering as for Replicans. The head of elections whines that there are not enough “good news” stories going out and too many bad. Then he noted that the machines take a second or two to register the vote once the choice is pressed. He said two presses can cancel out the vote.
Whomever designed that P.O.S. software should be fired. For something this important, the interface should have only two ways to cancel a vote: with a “CANCEL ALL” button or a vote for one of the other options in that race. No way should checkbox for a candidate be a toggle switch, allowing selection and deselection. How poor a design is that?
October 21st, 2008 at 1:16 amslacker_george Says:
According to the link in the Huff post story, there are some problems where electronic votes for Democrats are registering as for Replicans. The head of elections whines that there are not enough “good news” stories going out and too many bad. Then he noted that the machines take a second or two to register the vote once the choice is pressed. He said two presses can cancel out the vote.
Oh yeah, our lying eyes are SO tainted by liberal bias that we refuse to see the good stories of the voting machines. Boo hoo!
October 21st, 2008 at 3:56 amMayber we should all take turns slicing up ClusterTim with a butter knife
October 21st, 2008 at 8:49 amA seminar on how to steal elections would be more appropriate for these fascists.
October 21st, 2008 at 8:54 amIt’s remarkable that there is absolutely no word mentioned about Nathan Sproul, formerly of Sproul & Associates, and Lincoln Strategy (the newer name of his voter disenfranchisement franchise).
It’s a felony to throw away a voter registration. So what did ACORN do? ACORN verified the registrations that it could, segregated the rest into two categories. One that had incomplete registrations, and another that had suspected fraudulent registrations. Then turned them all in, because to discard the fraudulent reg’s would be a crime. However, when they turned them in, they flagged to suspect reg’s to the voting officials. Like any ethical operation should.
But, now let’s take a look at Sproul’s operation.
If voters registered as Democrats, their registrations went into the trash. And that’s a felony! And how much money did the RNC and the McCain Campaign give to Sproul?
Well, nobody in the liberal media has done much, if anything to find out, have they?
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