Palin Claims The Vice President Is ‘In Charge Of The U.S. Senate’
Palin Claims The Vice President Is ‘In Charge Of The U.S. Senate’
Yesterday, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) sat for an interview with KUSA, an NBC affiliate in Colorado. In response to a question sent to the network by a third grader at a local elementary school about what the Vice President does, Palin erroneously argued that the Vice President is “in charge of the United States Senate“:
Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”
PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
Watch it:
Indeed, while Palin suggests that questions about what the Vice President does is something only her daughter Piper would ask, Palin herself asked this very question on national television in July. Apparently, she still hasn’t learned the correct answer.
Article I of the Constitution establishes an exceptionally limited role for the Vice President — giving the office holder a vote only when the Senate is “equally divided”:
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.
Moreover, the U.S. Senate website explains that the modern role of Vice Presidents has been to preside over the Senate “only on ceremonial occasions.” ThinkProgress contacted Senior Assistant Paliamentarian Peter Robinson, who also disputed Palin’s characterization of the Vice President’s role:
In modern practice the Vice President doesn’t really control the Senate. … If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it’s the responsibility of the two leaders.
This comment is all the more puzzling because this is at least the 2nd time she has said this. Gov Palin needs to re-read or perhaps read for the first time the Constitution. While the Vice President presides over the Senate, he or she is not in charge of it. Article 1 says The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.
The Senate is part of a co-equal branch of the federal government.
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I will have nightmares tonight.
And tomorrow I will contribute more and volunteer more and do whatever I can to help elect Obama and Biden.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pmPalin, for goodness sake, just f***ing stop. Just shut your mouth. Get off the campaign trail, go home, and never come back to the lower 48. Your persistence and stick to it-iveness are to be commended, but you are simply wrongheaded or just wrong at every turn. Just completely and unabashedly ignorant. Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and John McSame all make you look like an idiot. Which you are. And a provincial rube. Which you are. You should never have been forced onto the American public.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:09 pmI can't stand it. It is too painful to listen to her. We've had 8 years of stupid in Washington D.C. We don't need anymore.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pmit's like she's moved past race-baiting to a new technique that might be called "aneurysm-baiting"
October 21st, 2008 at 12:14 pmHow in the heck are there that many stupid people in Alaska to vote this idiot into the Governorship?
Then again, how were there that many stupid people in the US to elect George Bush... twice?
Must be something in the water.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:14 pmYou know, she really is an idiot. Not even the GOP senators want this bimbo hangin' around the senate, talkin' laws and stuff, also.
Go home, Sarah. Your 15 minutes were over a long time ago, and someone needs to save you from yourself. There will be plenty of investigations in Alaska you can insert yourself into.
PEACE
October 21st, 2008 at 12:15 pmWhy couldn't McCain pick someone more intelligent than this airhead, like Gomer Pyle?
October 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmReally Sarah! you don't come from an outsiders position, you come from an uninformed position. You are not a reformer, you're a hack, and an embarrassment to this country. Find a sled and GO HOME,
October 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pmShe hurts my brain.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pmSo Sarah would tell Piper, in grade 2, false information about her potential job! Since she is also a religious freak poor Piper is starting life in a huge hole.
TP, the video starts as soon as I go to the comments. I like to choose to play the videos instead of having it auto play.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pmWow. I rarely listen to the clips here, but I wanted to hear it for myself. She incorrectly described the "job of the vice-president" with the same glib enthusiasm I thought she only reserved for discussions of mooose-field-dressing and such.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmEvery time she opens her mouth, I feel smarter.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmQ: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”
Palin: That's easy, Brandon. The Vice President works behind the scenes with groups like PNAC, AIPAC and oil company executives to form self-serving energy policies, get no bid government contracts for your friends and start unjustified wars. The Vice President also gets a man-sized safe, a bank of paper shredders and get's their house blurred out on the Google Earth. One thing that the Vice President NEVR DOES Brandon, is leave a paper trail. Oh, and if a pesky Congress tries to ask any questions, just claim "Executive Privilege"! Works EVERY TIME! Thanks Brandon...NO MORE QUESTIONS, PLEASE!
October 21st, 2008 at 12:23 pmWow, I never thought I'd say this, but she makes W look smart. That takes talent...rather TONS of stupidity.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:23 pmI just hope the answer led to a discussion of what the VP actually does according to the Constitution. Third grade is not too early to learn that candidates for office can be wrong and that you should always look for other sources of information.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:23 pmAnyone with any self-awareness would break out in a rancid episode of flop-sweat if they heard themselves saying these things. You would either have to be completely devoid of original thought, or be completely willing to adopt other's ideas as your own. But I'm not completely negative, I would almost like her jacket if it had an "STP" logo on it or something...
October 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmHmmm...
Perhaps this is the ticket the GOOP should have run this electoral cycle...
Kimberly/Clark '08!!! Depends You Can Change Into!
October 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmJust keep talking and giving interviews...
Oh, and here's a shovel.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pmAmazing that the GOP thought insulting Americans with the selection of this bimbo would be a net positive for their campaign.
I mean, wow, just wow
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IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
Every time she opens her mouth, I feel smarter.
Every time Palin enters a room, the average IQ of the room loses 2 digits.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:28 pmI can’t stand it. It is too painful to listen to her. We’ve had 8 years of stupid in Washington D.C. We don’t need anymore.
Yes, but is the voting public stupid enough to elect Caribou Barbie and McGramps for four more years of republican stupid?
Are we? Are we idiotic enough, gomer enough, simple-minded enough, redneck enough?
God, I hope not!
October 21st, 2008 at 12:28 pmPALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me!
And Palin would feed her daughter the same erroneous, incorrect, ignorant, BS she just fed the interviewer.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pmLet's see: Biden says JOBS is a three letter word, FDR was president in 1929 and that FDR addressed the nation as president on television in 1929. He seems more like a dunce that Palin in my opinion.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pmOh man. I never thought anyone could embarrass me as an American any more than George W. Bush.
I was wrong. You betcha.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pmIs it any wonder that the McCain campaign has kept this woman away from non-scripted moments? Can you just imagine if she had, like, answered the actual debate questions?
Keep on talkin', Sarah, we need the laughs!
PEACE
October 21st, 2008 at 12:33 pmIt is absolutely mind-boggling that Tina Fey can still have a very effective routine just quoting Palin verbatim.
How in the world does one satirize this?
October 21st, 2008 at 12:33 pmShe is looped on something. I suspect she's been hitting the Jeebus juice a little hard for a long time. No clue.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pmPALIN: [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
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Even if this was true (as it apparently is in Palin's parallel universe), what kind of claptrap answer is this? I am realizing now how the LIV voter is born -- they come from childhoods where they are told that our elected officials "make life better" for them, without any specifics.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:39 pmCindy should hook her up. Maybe then she could just stand by smiling and keep quiet.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:39 pmOf course, Sarah Palin is already on record demanding that the powers of the Vice President be expanded to suit her needs.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:39 pmPlease Beethoven--there's no defending her rank stupidity. And Biden at least will admit his errors, which are quite minor in comparison, nor is he stirring the racial hatred pot like Palin does repeatedly. We know the scary black guy frightens you and you want to pull the covers over your head and stuff the pillow into your ears to defend yourself but you truly need to look at the issues and be better informed.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pmIt's hard for me to figure out if I should laugh or cry. I can't wait to see what Rich Lowry and his circle-jerk friends have to say about this one.
I'd also like to see Joe Biden bring this up - and every single reporter on her plane - to inform her that she is, in fact, incorrect.
Perhaps the GOP could start a 'Book of The Day' club for Ms. Palin - and provide her with a book each day from now until election day to teach her about government, the constitution, some basic history, and maybe even world affairs - you know, stuff like that which could come in handy were she to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pmSomeone still hasn't explained to her what the Vice-President does all day.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmSomeone should take her outside and show her...see this?..this is your ass..See this?..this is a hole in the ground...Learn the differance..
October 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmRe #10:
Well she doesn't seem to have a brain of her own (at least not one that's fully functional), so it's difficult for her to know how to treat other peoples' brains.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmBeethoven Rules Says:
Don't you have to go back to your job of hitting yourself in the head with a mallet?
October 21st, 2008 at 12:42 pmWatch the interview? UGH. NO THANKS. I'd much rather listen to this. /puts headphones back on and cranks up the volume.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:42 pmMs. Palin has set back women in politics by eons. I'd almost feel sorry for her if she weren't so arrogant, overreaching, and vicious. Her only saving grace is that she provides the only real chance to sink McCain.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:43 pmEvery time I watch this woman talk, all that comes to mind is an old Korean saying... the empty barrel makes the most noise...
October 21st, 2008 at 12:44 pmdo you think it’s fair if i asked whether sarah palin has a brain?
October 21st, 2008 at 12:44 pmMy daughter's home sick but when she gets up I'm going to show her the video. I'm sure she'll get a laugh out of it. I know I did.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:46 pmbecause i'm not bringing this up... i'm just asking.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pmHoly shit, Palin is such an ignorant moron!
You CANNOT make this stuff up.
What the hell is happening in America?
Obama-Biden '08 - because BRAINS MATTER.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:48 pmnot fit for dogcatcher.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pmPalin is one of those people that makes you throw up a little in your mouth.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:53 pm"Senior Assistant Paliamentarian Peter Robinson, who also disputed Palin’s characterization of the Vice President’s role: In modern practice the Vice President doesn’t really control the Senate."
Doesn't really control the Senate!!??? WTF!!! What kind of a wishy washy answer is that??
Trust me. If the sky really does fall and the "Blessed Sarah"" gets into office WE are all F*&%K*D and SHE WILL be in control of the Senate. Welcome to the Theocracy of the Sarah States.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:53 pmPalin decided to apply for a job without even knowing what the job's duties were.
Then, she decided that the job didn't have enough power so voila, she'd expand the role's power.
I was speaking to a friend of mine who now lives in Italy and she was talking about all the coverage in Europe of the U.S. election ("they're all over it!") but then she brought up Palin. "What is with that woman?!", were her words. She was truly amazed that Palin was in the position she was.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmWashington outsider--more like Washington's outhouse. She is full of sh*t, don'tcha know
October 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pmQ: What does a President do?
Shara: He gets out of the way for the Vice President to take over, which is what I will do, then I'll find the Red Button as fast as you can and bring about the end times so that we can all find god together.
Q: Won't that make everyone dead?
Shara: That is what makes jobs, and it will stop socialism, and only real Åmericans want jobs.
Q: Aren't this just a bunch of talking points strung together.
Shara: We're mavericks.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pmPlease make the crazy lady go away. Please.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pmBeethoven Rules Says
October 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Let’s see: Biden says JOBS is a three letter word, FDR was president in 1929 and that FDR addressed the nation as president on television in 1929. He seems more like a dunce that Palin in my opinion.
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And you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but your opinion isn't going to impress too many people around here.
Yes, Biden makes some misspeaks that are truly hilarious, but the truth is that Biden really does know that JOBS has four letters in it (he no doubt intended to make the point that "JOB" had three letters), he really does know that Roosevelt didn't take office until 1933 (he meant to say "AFTER the stock market crash, when the country was in the midst of a deep depression"), and he really does know that Roosevelt's primary broadcast medium was the radio (the "television" reference was just a brain fart).
I am not convinced that Palin really knows what the role of the Vice President is when it comes to the U.S. Senate. I am not convinced that she understands that being able to see one island of Russia from one island in Alaska doesn't make her a foreign policy expert. I am not convinced she understands what the Bush Doctrine is (and I AM convinced that Biden does). I am not convinced that Palin pays any attention to Supreme Court decisions. I am not convinced that "Energy Expert" Palin actually knows anything about energy except that pipelines can move oil and natural gas.
But by all means, you pretend that a few misspeaks from a seasoned senator and foreign policy expert trumps a first-term governor who clearly never paid attention in civics class. As you say, it's your opinion.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pmBeethoven Rules Says:
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Hmmm... proof of the "Empty barrel" theory...
October 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pmAs I posted on the KUSA web site this morning, it continues to AMAZE me how STUPID Palin shows us every day ! Once again, here's a LINK to the US Constitution:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
There are NO Cliff notes...
October 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pmStupid is, as stupid does.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmThis pretty much says it all for the kool-aid drinkers.
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/20/believers_in_obama
October 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmWait a minute here. You have to understand that is what the Vice President does in "Sarahland" A lot of other neat stuff happens in "Sarahland". Fortunately for us "Sarahland" is only in Sarah Palin's head, it doesn't really exist.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:12 pmI've got it! Finally figured out why in God's name this woman was chosen to run with McCain....He's not very intelligent,she is even LESS so. He feels superior, for once in his life...thus we have Palin.Blind leading the blind. Great.:( Any elementary school kid knows the answer to that question.Sarah, go back to Alaska. I feel for the people of Alaska, the same way I feel for the people here in AZ...got a funny feeling though, that the landscape won't be so favorable upon their return!Couldn't happen to more deserving people. Good riddance.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm#Beethoven Rules Says:
Let’s see: Biden says JOBS is a three letter word, FDR was president in 1929 and that FDR addressed the nation as president on television in 1929. He seems more like a dunce that Palin in my opinion.
Biden's occasional slip of the tongue pales in comparison to the idiotic things that have come out of Sarah Palin's mouth. Perhaps, genius, you can tell us why Sarah Palin doesn't talk to the press? Could it be that every time she does she shows how little she knows? I don't see Biden hiding from the press, do you?
October 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmI love how she's saying "good...good..." when the interviewer tells her her next question comes from a 3rd grader. She's thinking in her head: "OOOh, something on my level, this is a good thing, you betcha also!"
Unfortunately for Scarah, she just got pwned by a third grader.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmthe Lone Voice of Reason Says:
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Please Beethoven–there’s no defending her rank stupidity.
It seems that the mentally challenged have a difficult time recognizing those persons with similar defects.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmBeethoven Rules Says:
This pretty much says it all for the kool-aid drinkers.
http://townhall.com/ columnists/ ThomasSowell/ 2008/ 10/ 20/ believers_in_obama
Links to right wing sites are pretty much ignored here.
HERE is what pretty much says it all:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.pollster.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
Even your right wing Real Clear Politics can't avoid the inconvenient truth that the people in this country are soundly rejecting McCain/Palin
Have a nice day, trollbaby.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmLet's kick this moron to the national curb, so that she can face charges back in Alaska...
October 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pmBeethoven Rules Says:
This pretty much says it all for the kool-aid drinkers.
This is a time where Obama's safety is increasingly threatened as the GOP minions are getting wilder, yet out of frustration you label us "kool-aid drinkers"? We've been discussing the issues in depth and use that to support our nominee, why the sudden lapse into GOP territory? It's 13 days until the election, why now?
October 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmShe is vapid and dim. Classic female repuke.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmeric72 Says:
It’s hard for me to figure out if I should laugh or cry. I can’t wait to see what Rich Lowry and his circle-jerk friends have to say about this one.
Rich Lowry has a hard on for Sarah, pure and simple. I'm sure he'll find some way to defend his honey. I have to say the most hilarious thing I have seen in TV in a long time is when Keith Olberman reads what Lowry had to say about Sarah after the VP debate. Keith makes it sound like a porno movie, which is probably what is playing in Lowry's head when he looks at her.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmThat's cute. You really think we're going to care what someone on ClownHall says?
October 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmOur of all the GOP crud opinion articles, that one enlightens you to jump off the bandwagon and discredit Obama's efforts?
I respectfully ask you to explain your thoughts.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmSarah was given the answer to what a VP does when Biden explained in the Debate. Biden explained it so well a 6 year old could understand but not Sarah. Now as she used her daughter as an example that shows her daughter will not learn the correct answer from Sarah and let's hope her daughter learns it for a teacher at school. Sarah continues to show how little she knows about how the US Govenment works. It's no surprise she's charged with ethic violations but the good news is Todd is rnning Alaska Govenment and he's not an elected official so he's not expected to know anything.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmOK...that is IT! She's been stumped by a third grader.
GAME OVER, YOU ARE DONE! Go back to Alaska, you dolt, and stare out your front window at Russia all day. Only then I will feel safe.
Stick a fork in you and Johnny Mac - we can't have people THIS EFFING STUPID getting anywhere near the White House...
October 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmWith that attitude and her ambition it makes the bumper sticker I saw all the more real:
October 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmPalin: Cheney with Lipstick
Is this expansionist rhetoric or is she misinformed? She's a) dumb and b) a neocon. It's hard to tell!
October 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmShe is SO CLUELESS about what it takes to provide and financially support special needs children. She is out of touch with the people who really face that struggle. The $$ is not there to provide and meet long-term care and employment goals for special needs children who become adults. I am a parent of a biological disabled adult, and adoptive parent of 3 small s/n children. I live it every day.
Energy--she pushes for the extension of shipments to Japan? "Those dollars should be here". Yeah right. She is stealing from the lower 48 to support ALASKAN interests?
And what news! Who knew? The VP -- is in charge of the Senate and if they want to can get in there with the senators and make changes. WAKE UP SARAH!
October 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm"Palin Claims The Vice President Is ‘In Charge Of The U.S. Senate’"
lol And that was such an easy question for Betty Boop Palin. And she failed that. And she couldn't answer that question from the third grader? That's really sad. It's time for Alaska Barbie to go back to Alaska. Certainly not qualified for either Veep or Prez. You can't make this stuff up.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmI wonder if she knows what the governor of Alaska does?
October 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmp.s. Where is Tina Fey? I wouldn't be surprised of another SNL skit.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmOver and over Palin repeats that she's 'an outsider of Washington'...how about her telling us about being 'an insider of the AIP'.....a most dangerous group that's proud of helping her acheive her polital goals.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmAnd Powell was being charitable when he said she was not qualified. I am afraid a couple of adjectives like, Hooter-girl, bimbo, dim bulb, would have come flowing out of my mouth, if I were in the same situation as Powell.
Astonishing, this woman. Can you imagine her climbing down into the Senate, "Hi-ya guys. Doggone it, I am here to roll up my sleeves and get to work for Joe the Plumber." Pan to the WTF look on Senator Clinton's face. Unbelievable.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmDuring VP debate with Biden, Palin said she is going to see if the Constitution can be amended to expand her power as a vice president. Like Cheney, Palin apparently plans to ignore the Constitutionally sanctioned duties of a VP. When she said she does not know what a VP does she was truthful, but she hasn't bothered to find out what her duties will be. Besides, she is already in disagreement with her potential boss, John McCain, and she has stated her differences in public. If heis elected I foresee a dysfunctional McCain administration because he will not be able to control Palin. She likes being in control. She is not a team player, and she is playing McCain and their supporters like a dime store fiddle. Watching on the campaign trail, I've observed that she cannot hide her displeasure with Cindy or McCain when they take too much limelight from her. She considers herself the star in this presidential play. It's also interesting watching her body language.
October 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm"I'll go all mavericky in the Senate and shake things up, show 'em how things get done, you betcha." wink, nod...
October 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pmliberal traitor Says:
Unfortunately for Scarah, she just got pwned by a third grader.
I think the term you are looking for is "gotcha" journalism. Seems the little bastard is picking on her.
October 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmThis is SO wrong! The vice president is not in the Legislative Branch for a very good reason!!
October 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pmWhy would anyone expect these clowns to let a little matter like Constitutional law get in the way of their 'thinking outside the box?'
/snark
How pathetically ignorant can one person be? One public official? One Vice Presidential candidate? Is it possible to set the bar lower than W has? Apparently, it is…
And, speaking of Cliff's Notes, did Governor Palin not get the memo? When she claims that a Vice President should"…make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom," does she fail to understand that change is typically PROGRESSIVE by it's very nature, and not the sort of REGRESSIVE process she imagines?
In terms of policy matters, to change is typically to be a Democrat. To maintain the status quo, is typically to be a Republican. To walk backward, is almost exclusively the domain of Republicans. Oh, and of Independent Democrats™ like Senator Lieberman.
She is, by her actions and claims, hopelessly and pathetically stupid. She really is.
October 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmColin Powell gave a perfect description for what the Vice President does: "the job of the Vice President is to be ready to be President." If you can't do that, you can't do the job.
October 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pmThis is so sad! Why hasn't anyone, even herself, tried to educated Governor Palin. She's been on the job already now campaigning since the end of August! For Pete's sake, for the country's sake. Someone teach her what the Vice President does!!!
October 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pmgee, a holy roller that is delusional
this is news how?
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When will someone please put this poor woman out of her misery?
October 21st, 2008 at 2:34 pmNov 4th
October 21st, 2008 at 2:35 pmLungman424 Says:
Someone should take her outside and show her…see this?..this is your ass..See this?..this is a hole in the ground…Learn the differance..
Well, didkless Cheney sits in undisclosed places sometimes secret meetings planning the continuing robbing of our treasury.
October 21st, 2008 at 2:50 pm@prettybabe,
October 21st, 2008 at 2:54 pmCouldn't agree with you more. During the debate when the question was asked if a palin administration would be like a mccain administration if he should unfortunately die while in office, I swear she glowed and licked her lips.
God help us all if they win.
The only thing we'll be able to watch with glee will be those old congress people when palin tries to take over.
Well, according to the Constitution of the US, which I assume has some bearing the VP is “President of the Senate” which I would assume has a common meaning not unlike “in charge of”; certainly the President is the head honcho of the US. The fact is, of course, that its been relegated to a ceremonial role more than anything else, but read the constitution. There isn’t much there about anybody’s particular duties. So, technically speaking, the VP is the head of the Senate &, constitutionally speaking I don’t see anything there that wouldn’t allow said VP to interact with or lobby the various Senators (but not vote except in the case of a tie). The fact that the VP doesn’t traditionally do that is, apparently, a matter of custom, not the constitution.
Sorry about that.
October 21st, 2008 at 3:32 pmoh, hard to watch. I just know she will say something silly. Yes, there is was. She really needs help on that VP job question. Did she say "Piper can answer that for me!" She didn't even read anything like her last critique about that VP job question. If she had maybe she would have the correct answer. No intellectual curiosity at all about anything I guess. Possibility to run a country? I think not.
October 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
October 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pmSarah, Sarah, Sarah, dear Sarah!
How shall I describe thee, oh Sarah?
Idiotic, naive, adorably stupid - you betcha!
Please put your tiara and sash on, and go back to Alaska.
Kill moose and, from your house, watch Russia!
We've had more than enough of your silliness, Miss Wasilla!
It's easy to call her dumb, but I think there's more to it than that. Palin's comments echo previous statements about changing the role of the vice presidency. (Remember, Dick Cheney argues that the Vice Presidency is not part of the executive branch.) Something more afoot, methinks...
October 21st, 2008 at 3:49 pmYou guys are all idiots you sit here and make fun of her taking what she said out of context, when i bet only about 1 percent of you could answer questions about the constitution oh and im sure obama has never said anything stupid huh?
"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon
your own supporters when questioned why they support him 99 percent had no other reason then "change" then when McCaisns policies were attributed to Obama they said yea im for that, such as pro life, or palin being vice president, half your supporters dont even know who his vice president is. what s sad is that thats about the same amount that wont even show up to the polls to vote, they talk alot but when it comesdown to putting the game controller down for 30 min thats to much of a sacrifice.
October 21st, 2008 at 3:56 pmSarah Palin, Super Hockey Mom. She can cheer on the kids at the game, run the State of Alaska, dress a moose and rewrite the Constitution simultaneously. This incredible story is featured on RealityChex.com at http://www.realitychex.com
October 21st, 2008 at 3:59 pmAddington? Is that Yoo?
October 21st, 2008 at 3:59 pmBeethoven Rules Says
October 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pm
This pretty much says it all for the kool-aid drinkers.
http://townhall.com/ columnists/ ThomasSowell/ 2008/ 10/ 20/ believers_in_obama
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No, it really doesn't say all that much. Not much of substance, anyway. What it tries to do is perpetuate the myth that "we really don't know Obama" (despite his being on the campaign trail for the past 20 months and has been put under a microscope by practically everybody), and the myth that he favors "change" without giving specifics (Obama has given plenty of specifics about his proposals -- both in his speeches and on his website).
But this article goes even further. It actually suggests that Obama's use of the term "change" equates him with fascist dictators, Bolsheviks, and other similar revolutionaries -- and that he shouldn't be trusted. This is nothing but blatant smear without anything to back it up.
No, this article DOESN'T "pretty much say it all" for Obama supporters. But it DOES say a great deal about the desperation of the McCainiacs.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:04 pmalpuz:
October 21st, 2008 at 4:04 pmNo, I'm new. Just get offended by people who work themselves into a lather on a response to a 3rd grade question & who probably haven't read the constitution and lack the intellectual interest to do so.
Here is Palin's statement during the Biden debate:
Palin: No, no. Of course, we know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are.
Are these her thoughts or is she being coached?
October 21st, 2008 at 4:04 pmThere really needs to be a stupid test for Presidential candidates and the VP candidates. I suggest amending the Constitution
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States; and neither shall any person be eligible to the Office of President, if that person has not passed the United States Ignorance and Stupidity Safeguard Test proving that person is not any of the following:
ignoramus, airhead, blockhead, birdbrain, buffoon, clod, dimwit, dope, dumdum, dunce, dingbat, fool, goon, idiot, dummkopf, imbecile, halfwit, harebrain, lump, lummox, lamebrain, lunkhead, knucklehead, moosebrain, numskull, nincompoop, oaf, moron, ninny, nitwit, nut, sap, saphead, simpleton, stupid person, yoyo, dumbbell, neanderthal
October 21st, 2008 at 4:15 pmAt first I was going to be mad then I thought well they wont even vote anyway so let them have their fun, I would still like one of you to come up with 5 accomplishments of obamna besides "change" just 5 how hard is that? his voting record in almost non existent on any issue, you laugh at sara palin for seemly not knowing the constitution but yet obama doesne even know how many states we have and now, yes now they say ohhhh we are going to be tested the first 6 months by a major crisis I wonder why. And yea Bush may be an idiot but if your in an economical crisis its your own damn fault, try paying for something in cash instead of credit, try living in a home you can actually afford to pay for, stop whining to the goct about all your problems and take some responsibility for your lives.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:16 pmtensbar Says
October 21st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
You guys are all idiots you sit here and make fun of her taking what she said out of context, when i bet only about 1 percent of you could answer questions about the constitution oh and im sure obama has never said anything stupid huh?
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It's true that the average American wouldn't be able to demonstrate a great deal of expertise when it comes to the constitution. But we're not talking about an average American here -- we're talking about somebody who aspires to be the Vice President of the United States (and this should be somebody who is way above average). If she gets elected, she is going to be asked to take an oath to protect and defend a document she obviously has never read -- not even the parts that pertain to her job.
There is a BIG difference between not understanding the job you hope to be elected to and making an occasional misspeak about "57 states" when it was obvious that "47 states" was meant.
Americans can be remarkably forgiving with candidate flops and flubs (and they happen to everyone), as long as they believe the candidate really DOES know there are only 50 states, that the word "jobs" has more than three letters, and that Iraq really doesn't border Pakistan (nor is Afghanistan a "neighboring" country).
It's when a candidate clearly doesn't know what he or she is talking about that it truly counts as a gaffe. Falling into this category would be McCain's claim that Iran (Shia Muslims) has been supporting Al Qaeda (Sunni Muslims), a claim he made several times. And this isn't the first time Palin has gotten confused over the role of the veep, either.
Brain farts shouldn't be confused with genuine ignorance.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:16 pmAt least she didn't refuse to answer the question.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:16 pmwhens the last time Biden had a press conference, or was he to busy getting pinned down in Afghanistan? Maybe they dont want him answering questions about how he changed his mind about Obama in the last 3 months, yea thats change you can believe in alright. Hmmm why did biden fail in his last election bid for president, because he got caught lying? but hey thats acceptable I guess.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:23 pm@ autolegal
I've read the Constitution. I have a copy of the Constitution that I carry around with me. I know the Constitution. And what Sarah Palin said does not jive with the Constitution.
Only in Sarahland.
If you are playing devil's advocate, I sure hope you don't get caught up in it. We -- each of us -- will suffer even more than we are now should Sarah Palin achieve her transparent ambition of being President. We may as well move to Afghanistan and let the Taliban rule us.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:32 pmI hear ya, auto. I think possibly the reason why people "work themselves into a lather" may be that Sarah Palin herself lacks the "intellectual interest" to read the constitution. What do you think?
... and she is the republican candidate for the office of the VP.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:33 pmI think Palin is plenty smart,capable executive. She's "ignorant" in that she hasn't been exposed to a number of issues. I have no problem criticizing her politics as, personally, I believe it should be a woman's choice to kill their babies (see Paglia)but I find the descriptions of her as a bimbo or an idiot to be offensive. Democrats condemn the alleged Karl Rowe tactics of slander but cheerfully adopt them with regard to Palin
October 21st, 2008 at 4:45 pmEnnelogic:
October 21st, 2008 at 4:46 pmSo the constitutions says she's not the President of the Senate & forbids her lobbying the Senate?
Please point out the relevant section.
Autolegal says we shouldn't call Palin stupid, and I think she/he is right. Calling Palin stupid is an insult to stupid people.
(Thanks to JLC)
October 21st, 2008 at 5:05 pmNimbleswitch:
October 21st, 2008 at 5:08 pmYep, stupid people manage to get themselve elected governor, remain one of the most popular governors in the country, come out ahead in a faceoff with big oil and manage to get themselves nominated as VP of the United States.
So, in comparison, exactly how smart are you?
autolegal.
October 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmWhy do you feel they won't allow her to do anything but deliver the same stump speech over and over again. Shouldn't they want to take advantage of all her expertise? Just wondering
Hey ClusterTim have you ever had the shit totally beaten out of you? Just wondering...
October 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pmget this moronic woman out of the lower 48...if alaska citizens want this pro life, pro war woman in their government fine, but get her out of now.
she has got to be the stupidest person in the world.
October 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmautolegal,
One of the most popular governors - She's paid every man, woman, and child $3,200 this past year. Even 2 year old kids. Of course she's popular. BTW, that raises our gas prices!!!!
Came out ahead in a faceoff with big oil - Awarded a 40 BILLION contract to a Canadian company. They were the only one to bid on her terms. That's pretty close to a no-bid contract. AND work on it hasn't started yet.
October 21st, 2008 at 5:39 pmI'm not exactly a Palin fan. However, article 1 section 3 states that the Vice President is in fact the the "President of the Senate". Which Mr. Powers left out and instead stated that their only job is to cast tie breaking votes. While the President pro tempore does somewhat negate the VP's powers in the senate, it is still the Vice President who oversees.
October 21st, 2008 at 5:56 pmJim/1956
October 21st, 2008 at 6:13 pmExactly how does that raise our gas prices? Those opposed to any domestic production claim that prices are set by world demand.
dbadass - Do you think that Biden, McCain & Obama make up new stump speeches at each stop. Wow, like wow, they must be prolific writers.
However, to those whom I'm offended with the facts, please know that I don't think Palin is the most qualified person to be VP. Did you think Dan Qayle, Geraldine Ferraro (sp?), Spiro Agnew, etc. were the guys most qualified to be VP? Or how about Truman, certainly a guy no one would have picked for the top position? Or are you more upset because Palin has some pretty strong views with which you disagree and because she's from a State you don't feel quite measures up to your cosmopolitan sophistication?
Someone please put a piece of tape over this womans mouth. She is an insult to intelligent women everywhere. If I was Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison in Texas I'd be so infuriaited by this poser.
October 21st, 2008 at 6:15 pmApparently for Palin, VP-candidates have two major duties: First, beat up Michael Jackson up for his red leather jacket circa Thriller album '82...and then proceed to categorically reinterpret the constitutional limitations of the vice-presidency. Even then, Cheney has already done that. So what's left?
Oh yes...go hunting and accidentally shoot an old man in the face. I think with her experience she can handle that.
October 21st, 2008 at 6:30 pmautolegal,
You don't think the Alaskan state tax on oil produced within that state raises the gas prices for the rest of us????
Take a look at the Alaska state budget at ak.gov.
Alaska has a graduated tax based on an assumed oil price of $25 per barrel. In other words the higher the price per barrel, the higher the tax percentage.
Do some research.
October 21st, 2008 at 6:34 pm@tensbar
"You guys are all idiots you sit here and make fun of her taking what she said out of context, when i bet only about 1 percent of you could answer questions about the constitution oh and im sure obama has never said anything stupid huh?"
Wow... and we are the idiots. Punctuate much? Pot, meet kettle.
October 21st, 2008 at 6:39 pmadanot,
According to senate.gov, the VP has cast 242 votes since 1789.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Tie_Breaking_Votes.htm
I'd love to see a reliable link to how often the VP even appears at the Senate. I found numbers on DailyKos, but know those won't be deemed reliable.
October 21st, 2008 at 6:42 pmPalin is correct. The Constitution on this point is very straightforward: “The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.” Article II controls the branch, not 1 - where the definition comes from. And it's a very minimal description as well.
More importantly, the notion that the vice president can preside over the Senate only when there is a tie vote is simply wrong. Nor is it true that the only legislative involvement the vice president has is to break tie votes. The vice president is the president of the Senate, where he interprets the rules and can only be overridden by a vote of 60 senators.
So the guy that said it's strictly a 'ceremonial' role is very incorrect.
I'm more embarrassed that Biden didn't know WHAT the job entailed and said it during the debate. That's all over YT for all to see.
So while we may not like the woman, what she said is still correct. And I'd rather spread the truth vs appear ignorant of the facts and have some repub come and throw it down my throat.
October 21st, 2008 at 7:12 pmTC,
Don't disagree with you too much constitutionally, but have you ever watched CSPAN? Or any of the Senate committee hearings?
Have you ever seen the VP there?
October 21st, 2008 at 7:16 pmAt least she wasn't teaching the kids how to spell potatoe.
October 21st, 2008 at 7:24 pmSILLY Sarah (Palin) is a JOKE! OsiSpeaks.com
October 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pmI believe that the intellectually disadvantaged deserve representation, but perhaps not quite that much.
An IQ of 83 might have you in that category, but membership in a group does not qualify you to lead it.
You betcha.
October 21st, 2008 at 7:53 pmI think that I would not like to see any such Mavericks in the White House*.
*Apologies to the genuine Maverick family in Texas -- I don't really mean you. And one of you should consider running next term -- the irony would be delicious.
October 21st, 2008 at 8:03 pmObviously she would not know. Her and John McBush never went to law school, neither have any idea of Constitutional Law. Palin graduated from Idaho with a Journalism degree..wow, impressive!!
October 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pmI was beginning to think the Body Snatchers came down and converted everyone to Stupid... I searched for some logic. Then...while searching intently on google I found your beloved website! You have given me hope, a new spring in my step a bigger smile on my face. I now have hope, THSNK YOU!!!
October 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pmIn here are many like minded folks, who realize the mess we are in. I agree with ClusterTim, "God help us all if Twidle Dee and Twiddle Dum get elected."
sorry to burst any bubbles but ClusterTim has no real convictions. ClusterTim sees this place as nothing more than a free place to try to market his crap
October 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pmIn reading this post and the replies I can see the facts don't matter but here it goes.
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/President
the presiding officer of a governmental body
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/presiding
to exercise guidance, direction, or control
So you post right there from the Constitution what the job of the Vice President is then when she correctly answers a kids question about the job you rag her? Facts and logic don't mean much here.
October 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pmJoe Biden also drew some fire for not grasping the Constitutional scheme, which finds the Vice President's role defined as both Executive and Legislative, because aspects of that role are found in both Article I and Article II. Unlike Palin, he did attend law school. Up through the first half of the 20th Century, it was not uncommon to find Vice Presidents attentively engaged in their duties to the Senate, as that body's President, more than they do today. In fact, until the mid-20th Century, their office on Capitol Hill in the Senate was their only office, and they did not yet have an additional office in the Executive Office Building near the White House.
Indeed, the very title of the senior Senator who presides over the Senate when the V.P. is not there -- "President Pro Tem" -- comes from the Latin pro tempore meaning "for the time being." I.e., a stand-in for the official who can rightfully be there all the time, if he/she so chooses.
Here's the link to a blog which characterized what Biden said as a gaffe, reprinted his remarks, and provided some of the relevant Constitutional language.
October 21st, 2008 at 9:06 pmhttp://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/03/biden-gaffe-vp-is-always-president-of-the-senate/
who are you to tell me of facts and logic? Get a smaller brush before you consider painting again...
October 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pmReminds of Dan Quayle with his "potato(e)" [or is it the tomato(e)?] moment.
October 21st, 2008 at 9:39 pmSo I'm gonna give her the benefit of doubt that when a 7 year old ask you what do you do, it's not always easy to come up with a simple and yet incisive answer. I don't think she is as misinformed or "stupid" as we think. Instead I think she has had a charmed career in Alaska where there isn't much scrutiny in what you say and she's had it pretty easy. Now in the big game, she has to be more careful in how she projects herself and obviously she has failed. What she has to remember is that this is national. The folksy small town image only works if you can also demonstrate the ability to use your intellect. So it's a balance. The American people don't want Gomer Pyle; they want Ronald Reagen Part II. So Mrs Palin, if you really do have an intellect higher than a 3rd grader, then please use it quickly.
October 21st, 2008 at 9:42 pmYou know, this is why McCain will lose! Showing poor judgement in his choice of VP candidate. Caribou-Barbie needs to go back to the sticks.
October 21st, 2008 at 9:44 pmHow did she become governer anyway,my gosh, I know teens that are more articulate in public speaking than she is.
Palin, Tine Fay does you a favor and makes you look intelligent!!
Sad sad day for republicans with this one.
Substitute "Ms. Palin" for "Mr. Madison" in this quote from "Billy Madison":
ROFL. Only Sarah Palin could make us think George Bush isn't the Village Idiot.
October 21st, 2008 at 10:03 pmIs Sarah Palin in The Romantics?
October 21st, 2008 at 10:04 pmThis is truly insane, because it means Caribou Barbie still has no idea what the VP does.
Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
October 21st, 2008 at 10:20 pmReminds me of a saying I heard (can anyone remember the source of this??)
"Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing possible.... you keep talking!"
October 21st, 2008 at 10:41 pmcalling Joe the plumber, our national septic tank has runneth over,please come in a hurry. Our neighbors suspect that there is a rather odious smell emitting from our basement.
There seems to be a rather large toid with a string attached to it floating around and its calling itself Sarah, can you help us with your expertize in its removal?
Is there a disinfectant that you can use to help to make a change in atmosphere
Foot note: this woman is so dense, she'd make a lead ball look like a opaque Crystal Ball
October 21st, 2008 at 10:54 pmWhat dismays and baffles me most about all of this is not so much Palin's ignorance, but the ignorance of so many Americans. That fact that Obama/Biden have been leading in the polls by only a scant (well, scant to me, anyway) 5% on average, is something I find ludicrous. As far as I'm concerned, the numbers should be more like 80/20 or 90/10. Of course there's ignorance. But an ignorance level of nearly 50% is inexcusable.
October 21st, 2008 at 11:03 pmThat does seem to be the memo of the day, Unimportant. It's amazing to me how it seems to be seeping out of so many pores. It's almost as though it has been coordinated.
What do you think, Unimportant? Is it important? This whole Palin, you know.... thing?
October 21st, 2008 at 11:14 pmWhile I think those people posting have to be respectful, isn't it embarrassing to the McCain campaign that the person they selected for the number 2 spot doesn't even know the duties of the job she aspires to? Didn't anyone talk to this person before she was selected? I just saw another article (headlines) that said Ms. Palin didn't blink a minute before accepting the second spot on the ticket. Maybe she should have--that is thought twice. I believe, though, that she doesn't see how she comes across to the public and since she probably is fed only news that is kind and supportive, she doesn't know how "uneducated" she sounds. As some GOP folks claim she is the future, the GOP women with real qualifications should bolt the party. Why work hard at the grassroots, move into ledership positions to be usurped by someone like her? If the GOP aren't careful, they won't appeal to anyone but their narrow group and that's not enough to win elections. Ms. Palin needs to remember that being gov.doesn't always make you a leader. Because Ms. Palin has supported reditribution of wealth to ordinary Alaskans (read Anchorage Daily News, Sept. 19, 2008 adn.com. She should be asked about that and how come doing that isn't socialism.
October 21st, 2008 at 11:24 pmFor those out there that support McCain/Palin please buy Sarah the tape SCHOOL HOUSE ROCK so she will learn what a VP's job is. Look it's a cartoon so Sarah doens't read expect Starbuck cups this this tape is be within her understanding. It's will help Piper get the right answer too.
October 21st, 2008 at 11:48 pmIf you ever wonder what educators are up against in this country, you have only to peruse the postings of tensbar!!!
The written word can be a powerful tool to communicate a particular point of view, but it is often more compelling if the message is a cogent argument that shows "intellectual vigor" (thanks for your eloquent words, Mr. Powell) and is presented with accurate spelling using standard capitalization and punctuation. Feel free to disagree with me, but please show respect for our shared language (English, not American) by spending the time to present your message coherently in written form and not as though you are speaking. The two forms of English are related, but not identical.
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:04 amAmazing the people still posting that she got it wrong when she nails it. People keep saying they don't understand how John McCain picked her but the more bizarre pick in this election is Obama. Palin has worked and owned a business, been a Mayor, and a Governor. She has a track record of leadership positions in politics and business. Obama has none of this. He also has a history of association with questionable individuals and organizations that he has never really answered about. Regardless of which side you support, I think as Americans we should demand answers so that we can make an informed decision. Of course facts and logic don’t mean much.
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:07 amYou keep saying that.
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:19 amSarah Palin is the gift that keeps on giving!
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:19 amPalin has demonstrated so far in her political life a disregard for appropriate professional boundaries on such a scale that it wouldn't surprise me at all if, were she to actually become VP, she would feel free to disregard any currently established protocol and would "get in there with the senators" to push the McCain/Palin agenda. Given that there is actually some historical precedent for such activity (as JD in NJ and alpuz3 have noted) and that it wouldn't be illegal, it would be consistent with her "maverick" approach to Washington to do exactly that.
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 amI will certainly do my part to see that she doesn't get the chance.
She can't push an agenda that doesn't have a majority in support of it. You huffers are ALL a bunch of ;"ignoramus, airhead, blockhead, birdbrain, buffoon, clod, dimwit, dope, dumdum, dunce, dingbat, fool, goon, idiot, dummkopf, imbecile, halfwit, harebrain, lump, lummox, lamebrain, lunkhead, knucklehead, moosebrain, numskull, nincompoop, oaf, moron, ninny, nitwit, nut, sap, saphead, simpleton, stupid person, yoyo, dumbbell, neanderthal"...feel free to pluralize all these 'nicknames'...this is why all us SMALL TOWN REAL AMERICANS PAINT YOUR KITCHEN WINDOWS SHUT YOU NUMBNUT RETARDS.
October 22nd, 2008 at 12:55 amThere's a reason why of all the places this story has been carried you are THE ONLY one with this dangerous interpretation. Its because you are are wrong. You're actually suggesting the Vice President can craft legislation with the senate and essentially carry out the duties of the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER. Well, that would pretty much end the separate-but-equal 3 branches of government, wouldn't it. People don't be fooled by the troll simply because he acts like he believes what he says. Does any sane person think that Cheney wouldn't have gobbled up these powers if he thought he could get away with it or knew of some off-the-cuff angle they could interpret the constitution like TC did to give himself these powers?
Palin is dangerous. Both because she is entirely unqualified for the position and because she would seek to expand the powers of the Vice President (as she said during the VP debate). The public now fully sees in her a risk big enough that they are avoiding the McCain ticket like the plague. When Nov. 5th hits, trolls like these will all but disappear (unless they do it on their own time).
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:28 amLets see..you are comparing a Havard Law review graduate, community organizer, lawyer, and Senator with Palin...a journalism grad who was mayor of a town with the population of two large highschools before becoming a Governor found to have abused her powers in office. Not only that, she doesn't even know the role of Vice President. And her disgusting attacks on Obama (at what can accurately be described as "hate rallies") shows the depth, or rather, the "shallowness" of her character. And you STILL don't get it. Palin is now the #1 reason people are voting against McCain, EVEN MORE THAN BUSH! Get with the program.
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 amThe Constitution defines the rule of the Executive Branch not Merriam Webster dictionary. It is obvious the role of the Vice President is not to exercise "guidance, direction, or control" over the Senate, except if there were a tie vote. Some airhead with a $150,000 wardrobe strolls in and you republicans are ready to completely redefine the 3 branches of government.......THIS is why people are falling themselves to vote you guys out.
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:42 amautolegal Says:
Yes you ought to be sorry. The Senate is a deliberative body NO ONE IS IN CHARGE OF IT. Every Senator has a vote it is their JOB to vote and the VP can ONLY vote in case of a tie and is IN NO WAY in charge of the Senate. I suggest you READ the constitution AGAIN and you will see that NO ONE IS PUT IN CHARGE OF THE SENATE. This is actually pretty simple.
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:10 amtensbar Says:
YOU are a moron without the brains God gave a common garden slug. You come in here and repeat the stupid talking points you were TOLD to believe by your hivemind masters and its just sad. Yeah Obama made a slip of the tongue when tired and so what. Even a moron as obviously stupid as you must know that Obama doesnt think there are more than 50 states I could tell you exactly why I support Obama but why throw pearls before ignorant swine. It is also too tiresome to pick out words of one and two syllables you would have some hope of understanding as stupid as you are. Go play with the other special children and let the adults talk
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:14 amWhat can one possibly expect from a person who believes people walked the earth with dinosaurs 6000 years ago when God created the universe? Or someone who responds to a question about what are her sources of information as "all of 'em."? Or someone who voted for legislation in her podunk town to require rape victims to purchase their own rape kits so police can investigate? Or someone whose husband was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party for 7 years, with her support? Or someone who has to read from a script at a debate? Or someone who "hunts" moose from an airplane? Or someone who thinks they have foreign policy experience because they can see a small piece of Russia from somewhere she's probably never been? Or someone who thinks Vladmir Putin "rears his head" with sites set on Alaska? Or someone who doesn't know any other Supreme Court landmark decisions besides Roe v Wade (what about Bush v Gore, or Brown v Board of Education?)? Or someone who refers to Afghanistan as a "neighboring country"? The list goes on and on.
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 amIDEA: Anyone out there who actually want McCain to win (not me, although he'd definitely still be an improvement on Bush) needs to kidnap Palin and convince Tiny Fey to step in. She can look like Palin and talk like Palin, probably has more foreign policy experience (don't we all) and even if she were to carry on in a completely idiotic Palin-like manner, would at least realise that everyone was laughing at her.
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Ten other things Sarah Palin may mistakenly think the Vice President does
Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 09:57:41 AM
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Sarah Palin in an interview for 9News' Your Show.
Sarah Palin's interview this week for 9News' Your Show, which can be sampled below, includes a bit where she's answering questions from grade-schoolers. One of them asks what the Vice President does, and Palin answers that (among other things) the Veep is "in charge of the Senate, so if they want to, they can really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes..." Great, except that's totally wrong. Asking Sarah Palin what the Vice President does seems dangerously close to asking Dan Quayle how to spell "potato."
Here, are ten other things for which Palin might incorrectly assume that the Vice President of the United States is responsible.
10. Captain of the White House Hockey Team
Palin should be excused in making the assumption that the Vice President has something to do with hockey, seeing how her "Hockey Mom" qualifications were apparently key to her selection for the McCain ticket.
9. Reading Every Newspaper and Magazine
Seriously, Governor Palin; this is what interns and bloggers are for.
8. Approving Supreme Court Decisions
I know, I know -- the Vice President can see the Justice Department from her front porch. Once again, the view from a person’s front door affects nothing but home resale value.
7. Head Librarian, Library of Congress
The mandate of this venerable agency is to fill the shelves, Governor, not cull them. On the other hand, spending some time perusing the vast stores of information there might be a really, really good idea for you, as they do have information about things like the duties of the Vice President of the United States, the balance of powers and, you know, science.
6. Wardrobe Procurement
Spending $150,000 on clothing and makeup, since her Vice President nomination isn’t just approaching ridiculous; it’s running smack into ridiculous, tackling it, putting lipstick all over it, and then naming it Joe Six-Pack.
October 22nd, 2008 at 1:21 pmGood God, can't you provide a summary?
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pmIf anyone has fallen for TC's disinfo, here is Chris Matthews doing a good job explaining the role of the VP, and an equally good job schooling Palin's handlers who are probably the ones whispering this nonsense in her ears.
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
brewman Says:
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With that attitude and her ambition it makes the bumper sticker I saw all the more real:
Palin: Cheney with Lipstick
----LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pmWhat I find ironic is that the VP is (traditionally) in charge of NASA and the space program. Palin being the boss for rocket scientists.
Of course, spacey fits.
Anyway, space exploration would have made a more interesting answer.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 pmgood !!
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The job of the vice President is to do what the President instructs him to do he is doing good i think and you palin you need to learn more about senate and then return after 48, i would like to write more on it after my N10-003 CompTIA certification exam about which I'm fully prepared by getting good guideline from
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