Hatch: The World Is Just ‘Jealous’ ‘Because We’re So Powerful And Strong’
Hatch: The World Is Just ‘Jealous’ ‘Because We’re So Powerful And Strong’
Today on Fox News, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) denied that the America’s standing in the world has fallen under President Bush. He insisted that world opinion of the United States is as strong as ever, though he admitted that other countries “naturally” experience “jealousy” of America:
HATCH: There’s a lot of jealousy of the United States, especially in Europe, and France in particular and some of the other nations as well. So naturally they’re constantly poking holes at the United States. … Yeah there’s some irritation with the United States but mainly it’s because we’re so powerful and strong militarily and economically and otherwise.
Watch it:
Other countries aren’t jealous; they’re fed up with the cowboy presidency of George Bush. A 2007 Pew study found that “[d]istrust of the United States has intensified across the world,” with anti-Americanism deepening since 2002, especially “among America’s European allies.” In a 2008 Readers Digest poll of residents of 16 countries, only five reported higher percentages of those calling themselves “pro-American government” than those “anti-American government.”
Just five days ago, European newspapers and researchers published a study clearly documenting how damaging the Bush presidency has been to the world’s opinion of the United States:
Hatch seems oblivious to how Bush’s policies have dramatically weakened the U.S. military and helped cause the financial collapse of America’s economy.
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Sure, that must be it.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:36 pmGOD I LOVE YOU CANADA!
THAT’S IT HATCHEY…..AS BUSH DESPERATELY TRIES TO RALLY THE EUROPEAN ECONOMIC TROOPS…..MAKE SURE YOU ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET……YOU’RE DOIN’ A HECKUVA JOB……..HAHAHAHAHA
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pmWhat a creepy, egotistic attitude toward the rest of the world! No wonder they’re going nuts at the prospect of an Obama Presidency.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pmNot so powerful and envied now, are we?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 pmHatch: The World Is Just ‘Jealous’ ‘Because We’re So Powerful And Strong’»
– - In other news, Orrin Hatch is still living.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pmWould it be so wrong to suggest that all the nutjobs, fundies, skinheads, etc. move to Alaska, Utah or South Carolina, and then just cut them loose to become their own country?
PEACE
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pmWhat is this guy smoking? I though it was AQ that was
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pmjealous?
… denied that the America’s standing …
mis-type? or is she getting to you? ;-)
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 pmNahhh, they’re just jealous of Orrin’s magical undies.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 pmOh, yea, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Canada, France, England, Europe in general, etc.. they’re too socialist so they must be jealous of us or else they’d be doing what we’re doing and everything would be tanking for them, too. The snobs!
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pmIs he talking about surreal America, real America or the reality based one….
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pmInteresting… it would appear, from the numbers in that study, that some countries, such as Mexico and the UK, have almost EXACTLY the same percentage of die-hard, bed-rock loonies in their general population – the fabled 23%ers – as we have in this country.
Some, such as Poland and Belgium, have even bigger percentages (make way for a whole new generation of Polish jokes here…) at home, and some, like France and Switzerland, have substantially smaller percentages.
Jes’ pointin’ it out… thas all…
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pmIs Hatch a mormon?
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:52 pmThe only real strong thing in the US is the stench of the economy and the dying Repug campaign.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 pmQuestioner: Studies show that America’s reputation abroad has deteriorated. Foreign governments find the arrogance of the administration distasteful and sophomoric.
United States Senator: Oh yeah, well there just jealous!
Says it all.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 pmJust add this to the long list of evidence right wingers live in a fantasy world.
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pmctalk Says:
Just add this to the long list of evidence right wingers live in a fantasy world.
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The righties HAVE TO live in a fantasy world, ctalk.
They’ve screwed up so badly in the real world, they’ll be living it down for 25 or 30 years. Fantasyland is all they have left.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:02 pmOnce they end the GOP they should replace the R) with (DI)for delusional idiot.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:05 pmSo didn’t we buy Poland off with the missle defense make jobs program that pissed off the Russians? Maybe we should send that sales rep to Belgium.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:09 pmYeah, they are all jealous of our failing economy, our bellicose “shoot first and ask questions later” mentality and most of all they are jealous of our 45 million people without health care. It’s like every Republican out there has gone totally crazy.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:09 pmSo what Hatch is saying:
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm“We are fine,and our problem is only a matter of Jealousy feelings of other countries toward us, so why worry…why do anything differently”.
A politician like Hatch is the problem for this country and not the solution because he is refusing to face realities which are surrounding us daily..economical,crime,wars energy,environement,world affairs and mnay others.
By simply grading ourselves with A+ does not solve anything.
If other countries were in debt like us,then who is going to lend us money?
“You’re just jealous!” sounds like something a 13 year old might say…
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 pmIn France the people are not afraid of the government. The people’s voice is heard loud and clear over there. Employees get great benefits. The working class is still human over there. Here the working class has been abused to such an extent workers are demoralized. The french are better off in so many areas.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:25 pmOnly a self-centered self-absorbed idiot can believe the french are jealous of americans.
Is it really so outrageous to suggest that France might be jealous of the U.S.? They were the cultural and military leader of all the West for centuries, and now they watch us lead in both neither.
Germany rose, changed the balance of power in Europe, France lost her preeminent role and could only secure it with the Anglo-American alliance, which America dominated. Culturally, the inventions of Edison, Jazz Music, Radio, Cinema, Television – France is left longing for the 1700’s.
I am not sure how many of you are familiar with the raging jelously evident in the theatre of Athens directed against the Roman Republic after a similar switch had occurred. It is human nature to envy the younger force that replaced you.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 pmHatch is 74 years old and can’t change with the new Administration. Yes the Bush Administration has wiped out all the respect the US has built for years. Hatch is careful but will always side with the criminal White House in the end.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 pmHatch must have a great bank account. Besides, the family Bin Laden and Saudi Arabians love the family Bush, so we’ve got that going for us…
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 pmIn politics, stupidity is not a handicap.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:41 pm- Napoleon Bonaparte
DaTruth Says:
In France the people are not afraid of the government.
Umm…I am not afraid of my government. Sorry.
The people’s voice is heard loud and clear over there.
What would you call TP? Or Obama’s rallies?
The working class is still human over there.
Holy Inhuman Working Class, DaTruth!
Are you suggesting the American working class is inhuman? Murtha says they are racist rednecks…do you live in Western Pennsylvania?
Here the working class has been abused to such an extent workers are demoralized. The french are better off in so many areas.
Nothing subjective in these statements….
Only a self-centered self-absorbed idiot can believe the french are jealous of americans.
Or a Troll; at your service, sir.
All jesting aside, I will cede the point that Bush’s policies have made us less envied, but only if you can admit that there is some historic jealously of the US vis France in the 20th century. Charles DeGaulle’s major foreign policy thrust was to counter-balance the US, and this is a guy who would have died in a Nazi prison were it not for the US.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:42 pmOne of the things that seems pretty outrageous to me is that they act like they believe there are people who are actually buying this line of crap. It’s just . . really weird. Almost as if they think they are controlling some of the members of their audience’s minds.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Is it really so outrageous to suggest that France might be jealous of the U.S.? They were the cultural and military leader of all the West for centuries, and now they watch us lead in both neither.
Does “Keltoi at Night” = “Keltoi With Too Much To Drink”?
What part of: “Yeah there’s some irritation with the United States but mainly it’s because we’re so powerful and strong militarily and economically and otherwise” makes any sense?
Our economy is in the toilet, our military has been crippled by the Bush administration . . . the phrase “paper tiger” was written just for us. The whole “France used to be . . . ” is so lame, Keltoi. Shouldn’t the Brits be jealous of us because the Empire collapsed? And the Romans? Hell, their empire crashed even earlier. No wonder the Greeks hate us!
Just have another drink and get back on the couch.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:47 pmOne small problem there Keltoi. France has the wisdom and perspective gained by getting decimated in two world wars. They’ve also learned that, once their Empire was taken by force, they don’t miss it. Not to mention the fact that England outstripped her naval power early in the 19th century which reduced her stature tremendously.
Make fun of their, admittedly, unusual politics all you wish; France has largely abandoned the hubris of Imperialism and the yoke of superstition. As a nuclear power their borders are secure and the rest of the world is more valuable as a trading partner than a possession. They are older, and wiser, than we are. Alas,we residents of the United States are all to eager to discount the lessons others have learned.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:52 pmCharles DeGaulle had good reason to “counter” us. Much like Iraq, we refused to leave until we were good and ready and tried to dictate to them. Jealous? Why?
They’ve got the bomb so we can’t blackmail them. In fact, we have had almost no success in forcing France to adopt our more radical foreign policy or influence their foreign policy.
October 22nd, 2008 at 11:57 pmKeltoi – you’ve obviously never been to France, have you? When last over there, those I spoke to were primarily concerned with American citizens’s access to information and saw us as endangered by an impending dictatorship. That was back in May of 2004, before the second term of Bush. Your argument seems to be they are jealous of the U.S. because they are an old has-been empire, while we are the NEW empire. These are a people who saw what the drive for empire can result in, and they saw it not only for their own country, but in Europe when Germany decided to become the NEW empire. They also know that empire destroys itself in the end.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 amStudy: McCain gets more negative coverage than Obama
By Peter St. Onge | Charlotte Observer
John McCain is getting more negative media coverage than Barack Obama, according to a study conducted by the Pew Research Center.
The study, released Wednesday, examined 2,412 campaign stories from 48 news outlets during the six weeks from the end of the conventions through the final presidential debate.
The results: While the candidates are receiving equal amounts of coverage, 59% of stories about McCain were “decidedly negative in nature,” while only 14% were positive.
Obama hasn’t exactly been fawned over by media, but the coverage statistically has been more evenhanded, with 36% of stories clearly positive, 35% neutral or mixed, and 29% negative.
The authors note that the most positive stories on Obama were about politics, rather than policy — stories like polling, the electoral map, and tactics. [...]
Thanks, you MSM morons. Watch Mccain get a bump in the polls from this study.
Just great.
Now, we’re back to the liberal media meme, and it’s stronger than ever!
These corporate-based hacks have found a way to ream us, again!
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 amBy the way, when was that world survey done that indicated that those surveyed considered GW Bush more dangerous to world peace than OBL? Is that “jealousy” too, Keltoi? Hatch?
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 amKeith H. Says:
One of the things that seems pretty outrageous to me is that they act like they believe there are people who are actually buying this line of crap. It’s just . . really weird. Almost as if they think they are controlling some of the members of their audience’s minds.
If you’ll notice which cable news station he was appearing on, it might make sense.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:10 amI thought he was dead!
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 amEver since Orrin Hatch said, “Capital punishment is society’s way of demonstrating the sanctity of human life,” I have not bothered to give anything he says credibility.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 amYeah, Orrin, but we’re even more jealous of the fact that you’re going to heaven and we’re not.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:24 amHey dumbass, we wouldn’t even be a country if it weren’t for the French. They helped us get independence, remember.
Christ, How far back does this troll have to go to make a point?
keltoi, try to stay in the relevant world with us for a minute please.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 am“Hatch: The World Is Just ‘Jealous’ ‘Because We’re So Powerful And Strong’”
And not two nickels to rub with. Father Time Hatch is delusional. If we, the U.S., were so powerful and strong as Hatch claims, then why in the hell are we are in so much debt, borred money from international crisis, massive job losses, and have to bailout Wall Street amd Main Street from this economic crisis?
Memo to Hatch: Step away from the koolaid. A reality check, Orrin. For the past 8 years, this country, United Snakes of Moronica: Land of the thieves and home of the slaves have held hostile for 8 years under the Sith Administration. Powerful and strong under this clown President? Please…
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:43 amWoof! A salvo from the lurking A-Team!
Here goes:
gummitch Says:
Does “Keltoi at Night” = “Keltoi With Too Much To Drink”?
Oh, Hell yeah.
The whole “France used to be . . . ” is so lame, Keltoi. Shouldn’t the Brits be jealous of us because the Empire collapsed? And the Romans? Hell, their empire crashed even earlier. No wonder the Greeks hate us!
I think the Brits ARE jealous of us, but the psychology is different. They are Mom, France is Big Brother who let us sleep on the couch when Mom was pissed. Then Mom forgave us, we got super-rich, Big Brother got his ass whipped in a couple bar fights and we had to save him. And BTW, Mussolini proclaimed his reign a return to the Empire. Simple, basic human psychology is at the root of what moves nations, and it transcends decades, even centuries. It is kinda neat when you think about it.
Just have another drink and get back on the couch.
Never left the couch, Bro, laptop don’t you know, but I will bow to your first order.
pete Says:
One small problem there Keltoi. France has the wisdom and perspective gained by getting decimated in two world wars.
You place a very high price on wisdom, Pete!
They’ve also learned that, once their Empire was taken by force, they don’t miss it. Not to mention the fact that England outstripped her naval power early in the 19th century which reduced her stature tremendously.
Waterloo and the Congress of Vienna were more instrumental than the RN, but the former made the latter possible, along with an obscure genius by the name of Arthur Wellesly.
Make fun of their, admittedly, unusual politics all you wish; France has largely abandoned the hubris of Imperialism and the yoke of superstition. As a nuclear power their borders are secure and the rest of the world is more valuable as a trading partner than a possession. They are older, and wiser, than we are. Alas,we residents of the United States are all to eager to discount the lessons others have learned.
I agree with much of what you say; pain is the price of wisdom, both for men and for nations. I am 41. I feel much wiser than when I was 31. But do I envy the strength and vitality of my 31 year old self? Yes. Would I trade it? Doesn’t matter, I can’t. So obviously, the wise answer of the aged is that wisdom trumps strength. The young and strong make little effort to understand the old and wise.
pete Says:
Charles DeGaulle had good reason to “counter” us. Much like Iraq, we refused to leave until we were good and ready and tried to dictate to them. Jealous? Why?
Ummmm…him not dead in an umarked grave? France allowed to forget the Horst-Wessel song they had just mastered?
impeachcheneythenbush Says:
Keltoi – you’ve obviously never been to France, have you?
Yes, but only for a week in Paris.
When last over there, those I spoke to were primarily concerned with American citizens’s access to information and saw us as endangered by an impending dictatorship.
Well, they should take a deep Le Breath and calm themselves. How can you come to a site like THIS, which has flourished in the last 8 years, and feel like the G. is denying us information, hmmm?
They also know that empire destroys itself in the end.
Indeed it does. Our time will come. Have you ever been to the Forum Romanum? That will be the Mall in Washington one day. It is inevitable.
By the way, when was that world survey done that indicated that those surveyed considered GW Bush more dangerous to world peace than OBL? Is that “jealousy” too, Keltoi? Hatch?
No, I would call that stupidity, actually.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 amOT
Heard on Mike Malloy:
2/3 of US population lives within the “Constitutional Free Zone”…. see map and explanation here.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 amLet them whine about “negative coverage” and “attacks”. It should eventually dawn on all but the bottom 20% that the coverage is truthful. It’s only “negative” because the GOP candidates, and shills, keep saying ridiculous bullcrap. It’s not “negative” to question the validity of claims, assertions, contradictions and facts that don’t add up. And it’s not an “attack” to point to lies and abuses.
The point that, if justice is served, will get across is that there isn’t any good news about the GOP candidates and there isn’t much bad about the Dems. Ultimately, I think our “collective individualism(LOL)” will allow rational people to realize that capability is more important than ideology.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it often: I have some concerns about giving the Dems a super-duper majority and I have minor concerns about the practicality of some of Sen. Obama’s ideas.
I am gravely concerned that Sen McCain would accelerate the demise of this country by following his stated ideas and those of the people he’s beholden to. And I wouldn’t trust his running mate to find her way out of a wet paper sack with a chainsaw. I don’t think that either, in their own way, is remotely capable of fulfilling the obligations of the Offices for which they run. They both have taken the path of being reckless radicals, lacking in judgment and patience.
Senators Obama and Biden have both displayed superior fitness for the jobs. I may disagree with a few details, and a very few ideals, regarding the plans of Senators Obama and Biden but, I am 100% certain that they are both fit to serve; intellectually, temperamentally, and ethically. They are so superior to their adversaries that I find it ridiculous that these facts are being disputed at all.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:45 am“Salvo from the A-team”
Touche! But not lurking. I had plans and then had to catch up on the saga of Psycho Shelly the McCarthyite. But trolls have been largely absent of late so apologists tend to attract a crowd.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 ampete Says:
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it often: I have some concerns about giving the Dems a super-duper majority and I have minor concerns about the practicality of some of Sen. Obama’s ideas.
Sole power corrupts; 00-06 is exhibit A.
If the Dems knew what was good for themselves, they would hope they didn’t get a supermajority in the Sentate.
Senators Obama and Biden but, I am 100% certain that they are both fit to serve; intellectually, temperamentally, and ethically. They are so superior to their adversaries that I find it ridiculous that these facts are being disputed at all.
Sounds like Hubris, Pete, which I think you would agree the Wise avoid.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:56 amand then you say this about someone elses post:
Maybe you should limit your conversation to topics you are familiar with and have some degree of knowledge about.
Something like “would you like fries with that” is my guess.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 ampete Says:
“Salvo from the A-team”
Touche! But not lurking. I had plans and then had to catch up on the saga of Psycho Shelly the McCarthyite. But trolls have been largely absent of late so apologists tend to attract a crowd.
So I have noticed, but I can’t say I miss them either. But now that they are virtually extinct, you guys can see they had their point, at least the good ones. Even the crazy ones were fun if Ralph, Toasterhead and Gummitch were around, but it does reflect badly on them that they have fled the field. Oh well, True Trolls will soldier on in the army of Contraria.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 am“Hubris”? Not at all. Humility and certainty are not mutually exclusive. I didn’t say I couldn’t be proven wrong but, my mind is made up until provided proof to the contrary.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:02 amI’ve always been under the impression that the French regard us as a bunch of uncultured hicks. Now you can probably add arrogant to that impression too.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 ampete Says:
“Hubris”? Not at all. Humility and certainty are not mutually exclusive.
Oh, Damn! I like that! Race you to the bumber-sticker factory?
I didn’t say I couldn’t be proven wrong but, my mind is made up until provided proof to the contrary.
I am not saying I disagree with your assessment, but adverbs like intellectually, temperamentally, and ethically applied as absolutes trouble me. I mean, don’t you think Christian Right wingers would make a similiar judgement in polar opposition to you? And then how do you talk to each other? Compromise with each other?
Sh*t, I have been drinking too much to think such things.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 amThe dems had a super majority for 40 years. Great things happened in our country advanced by progressive ideas.
social security
technological advances unmatched in history
prosperity
civil rights addressed as a matter of consience
etc.
All that time the gop was the minority opposition party. The only purpose that conservatives serve in our democracy in my opinion.
You’re the one that better hope the dems don’t get a super majority, you may see something you haven’t seen for a long, long time……sucessful governace of a country.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:09 amMr. Evil Says:
I’ve always been under the impression that the French regard us as a bunch of uncultured hicks. Now you can probably add arrogant to that impression too.
You forgot “gun-toting”.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:10 amWayne A. Schneider Says: #39
Ever notice when one of these arrogant, self-serving buffoons talks about the sanctity of life, they are usually for the death penalty, pro war for most any reason and never actually show any redeeming human qualities of any social value.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 amBill Clinton said it best,
“People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power. “
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 amKeltoi at Night Says: #54
That is the cowboy way.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 amtymebeta Says:
Bill Clinton said it best,
“People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power. “
Somehow, I think both the Tutsis and the Hutus in Rwanda would disagree about the Wisdom of Bubba on that one. And those are not two groups who agree on much.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:16 amNice chatting with you, pete. Nite.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:16 amYou are a twit devoid of any intellectual thought beyond what you have decided is truth….just like bush.
dictatorships don’t happen all at once you fool…..that’s what the French understand that Americans don’t get.
I’m not going to detail it out for you because you are just not worth it and I don’t respect you enough after reading your ignorant rantings again here this evening.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 amDude, you just don’t like us ‘cuz we’re so freakin’ awesome.
USA! USA! USA!
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 amThank gawd one of the four tenors never made it to the Supremes or we would all be wearing magic underoos.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:13 amthis is the blind pride that has been proven to be so self-destructive in the history. I pity these fools.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:48 amThe problem is not the tiny degree of envy – it’s that the U.S. is praising itself all the time as problem-solver while creating problems all the time.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 amPolls about which country is most dangerous for world peace usually have the same result in Europe; the U.S. LEADS ahead of Russia and the ‘axis of evil’ remains.
This is why the whole world is waiting for Barack Obama to become the next President of the United States while the likes of al-Qaida & the KKK are hoping for a McCain/Palin win!
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:07 amOkay, I’ll bite. what’s the deal with Belgium? Did Bush sign some sort of strategic waffle agreement or what?
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:45 amPeorgieTirebiter Says:
Okay, I’ll bite. what’s the deal with Belgium? Did Bush sign some sort of strategic waffle agreement or what?
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:45 am
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I was wondering about that. Either they’re all totally knackered on Oer Bier, or they just didn’t like us to begin with.
I’m going with Oer Bier.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 amWe are so strong and powerful huh!?! The worlds most technologically advanced military in history is bogged down in two failed wars against a bunch of “ragtag” insurgents
Hatch must be blind and naive? Thanks to the Bushites we are in a position of weakness in dealing with world affairs. Our military is stretched dangerously thin, we are in debt with Communist China and our economy is on the verge of collapsing.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 amHatch should have added that the world hates us because of our freedom too. Idiot!
They may have been jealous. But if they were jealous they’d have been jealous since 1950.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 amIn 1999 hostility to America was a minority opinion, lightly held. Now, towards the government, it’s universal.
We first became a world power, not because we fought in World War I,but because were stayed out of it so long. While the then Great Powers killed off an entire generation of their young men, we went in in 1918 and out in 1919. And when World War II was over, our factories were all still standing. We helped win the war by tremendous historic effort: but our postwar prosperity was due to the measure by which we stayed out of it.
Frankly, since WWII, our military track record has been pretty poor. Korea? dragged yo an ugly stalemate. Vietnam? Miserable failure. Lebanon? Miserable failure. First Gulf War? Success. Somalia? Miserable failure. Kosovo? success. Afghanistan? ugly stalemate. Iraq? Miserable failure.
Where do we get the idea we’re military titans?
Our successes–WWi and II, the Gulf, Kosovo–were done in partnership in strong alliances. When we arrogantly go it alone, we fail. And we won the Cold War by not fighting.
France, Germany and Britain know that they ceded powere to the US because they destroyed each other–not because of any mystic virtue of the US. Russia’s postwar competition was hamstrung by tyranny, yes–but also by losing men and women on a level we cannot even dream of, and the destruction of much of their country.
And now these countries, having learned their bitter lesson and fallen because of it, are looking at America as it ignores that lesson and gets redy to empire itself into second-class status.
We’re already much of the way there.
Plain and simple, this fuddie duddie is out of touch.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 amThe irony is that all this “elite” bashing here at home is the product of jealousy and sour grapes.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 am“Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid”
Kin Hubbard
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pmAs a Belgian, I was shocked by those poll numbers … so I did a bit of digging. Cause those can simply not be true.
1. The poll was done by Le Soir. Which is a Walloon newspaper in the French speaking part of Belgium. Newscoverage on the American Elections and the American politics in general is far more present in the Dutch speaking part… and I can tell you, America ain’t doing that good from our perspective.
2. There is an amendment at the end of the poll!!!!! “This article was amended on Tuesday October 21 2008. A graphic showing the results of a poll on how the US is viewed around the world reversed the findings for Belgium. We stated that 39% of Belgians polled said their opinion of the US had changed for the worse since the start of the Bush presidency, and 52% said it had changed for the better. Those figures should have been the other way round.”
So please, we’re not as bad as Poland :D
Otranto
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pmSomeone tell Orin Hatch those rose colored sunglasses don’t go with that suit.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 pmHe must post a lot on message boards and in blog comments. Jus’ jellus, really?
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Yeah its ridiculous and NO France was NOT a military leader of the west for centuries that is ludicrous. England kicked their butts regularly. Are you giving us a lesson in condescension by telling us about Greece and Rome or a lesson in idiocy by making ludicrous statements that we would have to be morons to take seriously?
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm#74, thanks. I was thinking “what the hell is wrong with Belgium?!?”
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 pm